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Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is
 
Cashed out 400 last night but best thing is I'm over being hooked. Week off was best thing ever.

Now if i play I chuck 10 or 20 and if busy turn off and if I do win like last night it makes me stop even quicker as I know chance of repeating wins is zero. Since I drop in and out every few days it feels more random. Rather than playing it daily for hours realising what a filthy slot it is

I was going to say this the other day, having played it less for the last month, I was able to tell more easily if it was playing badly and I had better results. I found if you play it everyday you lose your bearings, it is a very 'intensely addictive' slot so I think the safest and most enjoyable way of playing it is in short doses and maybe only once or twice a week.

Plus if your ahead with a good win, it is easier to have a little go now and then and leave, but when I was thousands down I had the urge to chase my losses on it [playing on after getting a reasonable bonus only for bonanza to take it straight back]. And with a game that has a bonus frequency of 1 in 450, that's not a wise idea.
 
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Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:
 
Makes me wince how much I've lost on the likes of Bonanza recently, having taken a step back and looking at it objectively (coupled with a two-month slot banishment) I'd much rather focus on my first love, namely video games/ computing than spend £100 chasing some mythical D, only to be rogered with a substandard bonus round :cool:

I love the game of course, but it sucks you in where losing on it becomes normalized. That is BTG's biggest strength I feel, although playing it long enough will inevitably end with the player either out of pocket or fed up with it!

I daren't calculate how much I'm quids- in by not playing it for what seems an eternity :laugh:

me too, I'm battening down the hatches with my slot play, going to restrict myself for about 5 months. I could have had a new top of the range pc rather than the 4gig ram, dual core intel I'm still using.

In the future when I come back to slots I might up the stake level but reduce the number or length of sessions, low rolling for hours you can lose a substantial amount of money while at the same time never really having much of a chance of increasing your balance.

I might go back to an idea of doing say 50 spins at minimum and then increasing the stake, did this on book of ra once and I got a 500x win not long after raising my stake to 80p [an unheard of level of risk for me normally]
 
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I do believe the BTG rep just said that free spins could go on indefinitely :laugh::what::laugh:

Probably just a fail safe incase it rolls in a win over 20,000x, then waiting on whatever comes first - continuously retriggering the fs until either the casino itself closes to the public or the lucky player dies naturally.
 
lost 40 tonight but m happy as i walked away. had zillions GOL with massive cascade drops and not one bonus. in past id lose 200/300 chasing the bonus that wont come but walked away.
 
It is time for the final verdict on the question: What is the potential of Bonanza?

Some if not most think it has jackpot-like potential, but that is not true.
Officially best and only answer was "your chance of a huge win is the same as Donald Trump becoming the next Pope".

Mathematically it is proven that any wins over 14000x are so rare that they have no real impact on the RTP.
All casinos have been reassured by BTG that a monster win will never happen (I wonder how they can make sure of that).

Blueprint uses the same math on its Megaways and is more honest about it with a cap on 5000x win. This means that in Bonanza also any wins over 5000x are extremely rare.
Latest BTG interview: "Donuts has bigger potential than Bonanza".

After all that it is safe to say that the true potential of Bonanza is only 5000x.

If you are looking for something bigger you should play another slot.
Enough is enough with the half-truths and the vague misleading statements. UKGC and MGA should force them to tell the truth about the odds for a specific win.
At least we should provide that info here at CM. If BTG wants they can say what the odds are for a specific win over 5000x. No more vague misleading statements or jokes.

Or I could be wrong by 100%.
VS has the cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal.
Now it is probably safe to assume Diamond Mine has the same math with Bonanza. That would mean that the true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.

Unless VS is accidentally doing something illegal.
 
Or I could be wrong by 100%.
VS has the cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x bet win! That means, the chance for any win over 2,500x is so small that it doesn't affect the RTP, otherwise what VS does would be illegal.
Now it is probably safe to assume Diamond Mine has the same math with Bonanza. That would mean that the true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.

Unless VS is accidentally doing something illegal.

Hmmm...

2500x - Whats the point in creating the slot then? Has the Rep from VS explained why this has been capped?

I'm rather interested in this. Why can you lose 2500x but not win more than that?

Nate
 
Hmmm...

2500x - Whats the point in creating the slot then? Has the Rep from VS explained why this has been capped?

I'm rather interested in this. Why can you lose 2500x but not win more than that?

Nate

I asked. He said the numbers were given by the provider.
The cap is obviously a way to have bigger bet size than Bonanza (and manage their risk at the same time).
This is the best and only way for us to get an idea of the odds for a 2500x win.

Why make it? Bacause they can hide the odds and get everybody playing it. ;)
 
hit a £200 withdrawal on 40p spin with 22 spins this morning. given had x14 multi with 10 spins left it did its usual of 9 dead spins so little disappointed. but clear over 1k last 3 days between bonanza and mostly sports betting so my luck has defo been used for next few months.
 
hit a £200 withdrawal on 40p spin with 22 spins this morning. given had x14 multi with 10 spins left it did its usual of 9 dead spins so little disappointed. but clear over 1k last 3 days between bonanza and mostly sports betting so my luck has defo been used for next few months.
This time tomorrow?
 
I have some news. Turns out the assumption "UKGC cares about the RTP stated being the correct one" is false. They don't.

According to trance (you can read about it in the VS thread) casinos can cap the payouts without any limitations, as long as they say that they do. UKGC doesn't think players need to know how much this affects the RTP.

When a casino deals with UKGC apparently it goes like this:
Casino - I found a way for the games to pay lower RTP than the one the lab said. Is it ok?
UKGC - Totaly fine dude. Just find a way to say it without actually saying it.
Casino - I also let them think they can win over 500,000 when they can't win more than 30k.
UKGC - I don't care. Make sure you ask them all for SOW though.

What this has to do with Bonanza.
Turns out the cap on Diamond Mine payouts may or may not have an affect on the RTP.
But although UKGC lets them do whatever they want, I don't think they would go too far. Besides, I am tired of this "hide the truth" game about the Megaways slots.

So this is what I believe we should do:
1) Consider it a fact that true potential of Bonanza is only 2,500x.
2) Boycott any slot that has a cap on its payouts.
 
Bonanza isn't capped though unless the casino has a cap on all their games having a maximum payout, not sure if any do? There is the soft cap where the reels change at a multiplier over 50x that was mentioned a couple hundred pages back in this thread, but not sure if anyone has ever actually seen that happen?

Diamond Mine is capped at 10,000x or £250,000 whichever happens first, I think it's safe to assume the 10,000x cap is accounted for in the 96.39% RTP shown, the effect on RTP of the other cap is very likely small enough to disappear in rounding since RTP is only given with 2 decimals. I do agree though they should have left it at the 10,000x cap, if they don't like someone winning £1M they can just lower the max bet.

Don't really have a problem with games having a cap on payouts as long as it's in the rules, it gives more options for game developers to add high potential features. Much better than not having a cap and then designing a game with a max win of 400x.
 
Didn't someone post a screenshot of a £972.00 win on a 0.20p bet in the past 3-4 weeks?

Well over 2,500x if I didn't dream it :p

Maybe. I don't care. :p
I am so tired of this "hide and seek" game with BTG and casino reps about slot potential and odds.
I must have asked over 100 times for Bonanza's potential.
After all this time, I only care about what is really possible, hard to get but doable.
What am I supposed to think when I see a cap on Diamond Mine at 2,500x?

Edit...
Dan just confirmed that the chance for a win over 2,500 in Diamond Mine is almost impossible.
I choose to believe him, so......
 
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I have some news. Turns out the assumption "UKGC cares about the RTP stated being the correct one" is false. They don't.

I always seeing you ragging on the UKGC. Are you actually gambling in UKGC jurisdictions? Why is win capping and the effects on RTP a UKGC problem only? What do Curacao do? What about Malta?
 
I always seeing you ragging on the UKGC. Are you actually gambling in UKGC jurisdictions? Why is win capping and the effects on RTP a UKGC problem only? What do Curacao do? What about Malta?

I actually consider them one of the best. I do believe their heart is in the right place.
It is not raging. I don't hate them or anything. I point out things that need improvement, things I find important, things people don't know...

My goal is better regulations. If we raise a voice here they may listen and because I consider them highly influential others will follow.
And the hole industry will get much better. :)

....I do get too sarcastic at times :oops:.... I was a bit shocked today after what trance said.
But I really believe they will listen our valid concerns and make better regulations.
 
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