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New Slot Announcement Big Time Gaming - Who Wants To Be A Millionaire
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Well, it will be wrong 1 in 9 times...
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Had a pretty good win on it today. 25 Euro Deposit and managed to hit a 750x Bonus on 80p. Cashed out 500 after no slot wanted to give me anything more. I pretty much like the game. It's easier to predict if it's dead or you have a chance of winning something. Even the 8 Spin bonuses are paying very well and giving you a retrigger more often than chili or bonanza. The gamble feature is okay but had 2 or 3 lost gambles from 8 to 10 with high stakes. 50:50 joker never hits. All in all it's a real good entertaining slot.
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I just saw this coming by on the "latest winners" page on a casino... 8800x! That must be the record? (Note to make it completely clear: not my win 
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You sure about that? What did I say about the max 117649 ways being more common in the bonus?
Not mine, I wish the bugger was...
lockinlove
Editing my post so I dont get in trouble
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Oh shocking!! Its a leovegas affiliate once again hitting the motherload on a new BTG slot. I do find it fascinating how this keeps happening when people who BTG are partnered with happen to always get these hits. And early when the slot is released just like the big bonanza hit happened. Same time frame, same situation and in a channel with the biggest leovegas affiliate and BTG partner channel.
Sure is amazing how this keeps happening!
But aside from that. Hits like this are obviously going to happen when they get what 10 million spins on it a day or more? I see just as big hits on doa on forums on a daily basis. Which is most likely a much less played slot by quite alot
Meh
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Not to be argumentative in any way, I just want to be pedantic and point out a slight contradiction. In one post you say:
And then the next:
Which is it?
I mean it's out what 2 months now? I think that's a short time in my opinion. I get hating the slot & the provider, I aslo don't think I'd touch this slot with a barge pole as it has the type of Algorithmic Math I hate. High Variance, Highly Volatile, low freespins trigger frequency and poor 30x bonuses in the majority. I made the same point about that utter shit Vikings.
WWTBAM is superior though as it has a far greater win potential.
On to the Leovegas affiliate. I don't see what you are paranoid or concerned about, isn't it obvious that one man who promotes a casino is more likely than the whole casinomeister forum combined to hit such a win? Non issue!
And then the next:
Which is it?
I mean it's out what 2 months now? I think that's a short time in my opinion. I get hating the slot & the provider, I aslo don't think I'd touch this slot with a barge pole as it has the type of Algorithmic Math I hate. High Variance, Highly Volatile, low freespins trigger frequency and poor 30x bonuses in the majority. I made the same point about that utter shit Vikings.
WWTBAM is superior though as it has a far greater win potential.
On to the Leovegas affiliate. I don't see what you are paranoid or concerned about, isn't it obvious that one man who promotes a casino is more likely than the whole casinomeister forum combined to hit such a win? Non issue!
lockinlove
Editing my post so I dont get in trouble
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Not to be argumentative in any way, I just want to be pedantic and point out a slight contradiction. In one post you say:
And then the next:
Which is it?
I mean it's out what 2 months now? I think that's a short time in my opinion. I get hating the slot & the provider, I aslo don't think I'd touch this slot with a barge pole as it has the type of Algorithmic Math I hate. High Variance, Highly Volatile, low freespins trigger frequency and poor 30x bonuses in the majority. I made the same point about that utter shit Vikings.
WWTBAM is superior though as it has a far greater win potential.
On to the Leovegas affiliate. I don't see what you are paranoid or concerned about, isn't it obvious that one man who promotes a casino is more likely than the whole casinomeister forum combined to hit such a win? Non issue!
Well the difference in meaning is regular players like us who arent partnered with BTG.
When a BTG game is released the entire forum and all the people who like to post wins, including lurkers etc are banging away on it. Just like we see with vikings, jammin jars, napolean screenies. Everyone plays them, When you see dozens of jammin jars hits and vikings etc hits in their thread and winner screenshots and like 3 here I find that very telling about the slot.
Its the same with dragon born thread. When that slot was released the entire forum was playing it nonstop and barely any wins posted. They are just too top heavy slots. More so than any other slot so again we will see 1 winner and 9 billion losers
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TheresNoDInBonanza
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I tried @dunover 's suggestion of simulating 50 free spins awhile ago and didn't get around to tabulating and posting my results until now:
This is the first 50 spins I emulated, $1 spins:
First column is result for that spin, second is cumulative multiplier, third is final winnings of that spin. Cascading wins are separated on the same line with a /
3.6 x1 $3.6
0
0.6 x2 $1.2
1.8 x3 $3.6
0.4 x4 $0.8
0.8 x5 $4
0.6 x7 $4.2
0
0
0
1/0.25 x8/x9 $8/$2.25
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0.55 x10 $5.5
0
0
0
1.25 x11 $13.75
0
0
0
2 x12 $24
0.2 x13 $2.6
1.2 x14 $16.8
0
0
0
0.2 x15 $3
0
0
0
0
0
0.1 x16 $1.6
0.3 x17 $5.1
0
0.5 x18 $9
1 x19 $19
0
0
0
1.25/3/3.35 x20/x21/x22 $25/$63/$73.7
0
0
0
0
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Total winnings: 281.7x
As you can see there were only two instances where cascading wins occurred. Other than that it was 1 or less wins per spin.
This is the first 50 spins I emulated, $1 spins:
First column is result for that spin, second is cumulative multiplier, third is final winnings of that spin. Cascading wins are separated on the same line with a /
3.6 x1 $3.6
0
0.6 x2 $1.2
1.8 x3 $3.6
0.4 x4 $0.8
0.8 x5 $4
0.6 x7 $4.2
0
0
0
1/0.25 x8/x9 $8/$2.25
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0.55 x10 $5.5
0
0
0
1.25 x11 $13.75
0
0
0
2 x12 $24
0.2 x13 $2.6
1.2 x14 $16.8
0
0
0
0.2 x15 $3
0
0
0
0
0
0.1 x16 $1.6
0.3 x17 $5.1
0
0.5 x18 $9
1 x19 $19
0
0
0
1.25/3/3.35 x20/x21/x22 $25/$63/$73.7
0
0
0
0
---
Total winnings: 281.7x
As you can see there were only two instances where cascading wins occurred. Other than that it was 1 or less wins per spin.
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5 bonuses triggered, 1 actual bonus played with 10 spins. Just closed the game when my 89% ask the audience (?) choice failed to get me to the 10 spins in the last one. Extra Chili is enough for me I think.
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This is it. 87% A lost from 8 spins to 10 for me on fun mode. The game is impossible at times, the gamble is the same scam gamble as chilli and guarantees nothing.
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Those stats are diabolical,i saw the light after a couple of sessions and will never play it again
Knew it was bad on the feature but never realized how bad
Knew it was bad on the feature but never realized how bad
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Its horrific with features.
Played it a few times and in some sessions you LOSE 3 out of 4 Free Spin gambles just to try and get to 10 - Then boom, it sucks another 50 - 100x and no sign of the scatters. Getting to 14 / 16 / 18 is extremely hard.
The best part is BTG makes the 91% / 80% / 89% a sure loss on most of them so you don't even see the feature if you gamble. IF you manage to gamble and get a few extra spins, the most common payout in in the region of 10 - 20x bet.
Who wants to be shafted....
Nate
Played it a few times and in some sessions you LOSE 3 out of 4 Free Spin gambles just to try and get to 10 - Then boom, it sucks another 50 - 100x and no sign of the scatters. Getting to 14 / 16 / 18 is extremely hard.
The best part is BTG makes the 91% / 80% / 89% a sure loss on most of them so you don't even see the feature if you gamble. IF you manage to gamble and get a few extra spins, the most common payout in in the region of 10 - 20x bet.
Who wants to be shafted....
Nate
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You were unlucky on the 50 spins, I never got a result that low!
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It's not a good game, that's for sure. You can't have a feature hit rate as low as that and then be able to lose all of your free spins when you eventually get there. I'm a firm believer that on slots the only gambling that should occur is when you press 'SPIN' and your stake gets taken off you, and then the game plays out unmolested until the final result occurs. I hate the way you feel forced to gamble everything in order to have the chance of a reasonable free spins feature, and even more the fact that if you do manage to get a few extra spins all you end up with is a feature bloated with extra losing spins as any vestige of hope slowly evaporates. Those WWTBAM symbols along the bottom just block wins off, and the amount of times wild symbols appear in losing spins (something I've been seeing a lot in other games) just doesn't feel as natural as it should. There doesn't appear to be enough of a correlation between the increasing win multiplier and the number of free games. One is exponential and the other is linear, so they appear to be fighting each other, hence the increased ratio of losing spins the higher up the ladder you get. The whole game is downright fucking annoying to play and becomes one-dimensional quite quickly. When those 81% initial gambles go down you just feel ripped off. I won't be playing it again. They should have called it Who Wants to Live in an Underpass?
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For those who play it.... Note how many times, the King is impossible to get on Reel 2 during a cascade. Lots of symbols and it cascades a king 1 out of 20 times. I don't think I've seen so many misses with other symbols.
Nate
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Spot on about the Kings. Noticed that after a few hundred spins and it wound me up no end. U get it as often as a bonanza 6 of a kind diamond win and yet it pays pittance.
I just can’t play the game tbh. Very hard to get a feature, fair chance of an instant loss and then another hour sometimes to get another one. If that loses which it most certainly can ur thinking why the fuck am I playing this game?
Normally decent base turnover but I
Find there are more deadspins in the feature hence why it’s bery hard to get anything decent given it’s difficult enough just to get to 16 spins let alone 20.
And the ask the audience ‘lifeline’ may as well be a loss. Seems this one loves to bitch you no matter what the odds.
I just can’t play the game tbh. Very hard to get a feature, fair chance of an instant loss and then another hour sometimes to get another one. If that loses which it most certainly can ur thinking why the fuck am I playing this game?
Normally decent base turnover but I
Find there are more deadspins in the feature hence why it’s bery hard to get anything decent given it’s difficult enough just to get to 16 spins let alone 20.
And the ask the audience ‘lifeline’ may as well be a loss. Seems this one loves to bitch you no matter what the odds.
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Just to prove 8 spin triggers can pay (12 spins as I got a retrigger but got the £100 before the retriggers)
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^^ To be honest, that is nothing special, sadly.
Now if your bet had been 0.20 credits then I would have changed my opinion of this game!
Now if your bet had been 0.20 credits then I would have changed my opinion of this game!
lockinlove
Editing my post so I dont get in trouble
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Yeah its pretty bad when members are now being persuaded 100x on 12 spins is good. I mean its ok I guess...but you have to go through two gambles to get there, the base game ruins you trying to get a bonus and usually take awhile to get one...But its because most bonuses pay 5-12x on this so when you get 100x you feel you conquered it lol
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Anything over £100 is good to me I do have an issue with this game I got the phone a friend option on next trigger and the answer was wrong but how can you choose when unlike the other options you don't get a percentage, I think this is very dodgy in my opinion.
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Yes, BTG are not just clever with their game design and math's models, they're also excellent psychologists.
Release Bonanza which was hard to trigger a bonus but 9/10 paid pretty decent, then slowly as players become "hooked" due to the apparent fairness of their slots, release update after update and clones which look and feel the same but behind the scenes are anything but!
Crafty or clever is of course up to the individual but although I play them from time to time, my mind was made up a long time ago
Release Bonanza which was hard to trigger a bonus but 9/10 paid pretty decent, then slowly as players become "hooked" due to the apparent fairness of their slots, release update after update and clones which look and feel the same but behind the scenes are anything but!
Crafty or clever is of course up to the individual but although I play them from time to time, my mind was made up a long time ago
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not bad bonus for 10 spins
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My big question is are the gamble odds true, cant remember if BTG ever gave an absolute clarification
on this.The only player interaction is the decision whether to gamble based on the displayed odds and
most people would not hesitate to gamble if it a true 89%.As anyone who played this slot for a while
knows, it is very easy to lose this gamble so something is wrong.If the odds are not true this game
should not be allowed bearing in mind that we are talking real money when the hard earned feature can
lost on the first gamble.
on this.The only player interaction is the decision whether to gamble based on the displayed odds and
most people would not hesitate to gamble if it a true 89%.As anyone who played this slot for a while
knows, it is very easy to lose this gamble so something is wrong.If the odds are not true this game
should not be allowed bearing in mind that we are talking real money when the hard earned feature can
lost on the first gamble.
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cant be arsed to quote, but yes, theyve said its true odds...youre more likely to be correct on say, an 85%, but have to recognize it could still be wrong 15% of the time (though if i recall correctly their maths were wonky in their own example lol)
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People dont seem to be grasping that even tho 84% seems to be good odds but its going to be wrong 16% of the time eg 1 in 6 ish
Combine that with 2, 3, 4 gambles etc it gets harder mathematically.
Combine that with 2, 3, 4 gambles etc it gets harder mathematically.
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I know they say that you should go with the most popular answer but thats not the same as true oďds,
would love to see the stats on 100 gambles.I accept that a 16% chance of losing does not make the gamble
a dead cert but it happens far too many times for me ( well it did but i dont touch the game now)
would love to see the stats on 100 gambles.I accept that a 16% chance of losing does not make the gamble
a dead cert but it happens far too many times for me ( well it did but i dont touch the game now)
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you can tell im drinking before the bday bash - spelled mega wronghahah
you can tell im drinking before the bday bash - spelled mega wrong
I m drinking too did not even see the spell mistake
TheresNoDInBonanza
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I think the "84%" chance is accurate, but I think it must then just pick a random answer from the remaining options when you're wrong. I've gambled maybe twenty times and seen 1% and 2% be correct at least 4 times.
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Whilst I suspect you may be right that is pretty poor if true. Surely it cannot be much of a challenge to correctly pick a random number from a choice of 100 and accurately assign it to an answer. I can accept that even an 80% chance will be wrong 1 in every 5 but would psychologically struggle when it assigns the wrong pick continuously to the 1-2% option. If anything it would be a bad idea as people will make the conclusion that the gamble element is fixed, ooops, too late.
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Sank £200 into this last night on 60p a play 3 features First lost on first gamble despite an 83% PAF Then lost again on a 89% ATA, and in the last one obviously lost on a 50-50 Frustrating!
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Well this can fuck right off, won't get another penny from me, last night went for B which was 84%, D was the correct answer at 1% - like ok, then just got this whopper from 14 spins, bear in mind 60p was from the base game
I'd overheard on a radio ad whilst slacking at the gym that players can win or get to a 'million'
Is that what the 50 spin top prize is supposed to represent or just hyping up a popular theme among newbies? Because if you can win a million off this I'm all over it!
Is that what the 50 spin top prize is supposed to represent or just hyping up a popular theme among newbies? Because if you can win a million off this I'm all over it!
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I got to the magical 50 spins and it paid 1300+X.
Quite a way off a million, about £999,735 off to be more precise.
Quite a way off a million, about £999,735 off to be more precise.
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Yeah, just heard that ad in the car myself. It's million-casino or something, not the game itself which will make the 1m prize.
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Its very common. You will see a pattern emerging.
When the slot is on a slump, you are guaranteed to lose the first 2-3 gambles. I've had it on at least 4 sessions. The 80 - 90% gambles are sure losses most times. Then it will also throw you are high 80%+ ATA and watch that go too.
Then you think OK - Can't be losing them all the time.... and your next 2-3 features come in at 50-50 on the first question. Gamble it and you are almost guaranteed to lose it. Take the 8 spins and get 10 - 15x bet .... Its a lose / lose situation and almost impossible to get ahead.
Ran a few sessions and each time the same pattern emerges - 200x to 600 x in losses. Gimped Gambles IMHO... BTG can try to con someone else, I ain't buying their crap.
Nate
I Simply love this game. It's really kind nowadays and even the Bonusses Pay. Two days in a row it paid me nearly 1000x. If you have a long dry run for bonusses even the Base game can keep you going for a long time. Managed two withdrawals of about 1000 Euro. Couldn't believe it myself as I played again today and got very good wins.
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Never seen such RIGGED gambles.
90% of the time the gambles on 2-3 features are wrong and the 2- 5 % is the correct answer. The more I test the slot the more I can see patterns which make no sense whatsoever.
How can you have an 80% chance that the answer is correct on at least 7 out of 10 gambles and you lose all 7 of them? If you opt NOT to take the feature, then naturally your bonus pays 10x bet.
Beginning to lose count on how many times the feature actually bombs out in a session and you lose another 50 - 100x stake only to have it pull the same shit again when it falls...
There are going to be hits just like all other BTG slots. Overall, its the same as all their other slots... money grabbing compenriggsated shit.
Big Time Bullshitters
90% of the time the gambles on 2-3 features are wrong and the 2- 5 % is the correct answer. The more I test the slot the more I can see patterns which make no sense whatsoever.
How can you have an 80% chance that the answer is correct on at least 7 out of 10 gambles and you lose all 7 of them? If you opt NOT to take the feature, then naturally your bonus pays 10x bet.
Beginning to lose count on how many times the feature actually bombs out in a session and you lose another 50 - 100x stake only to have it pull the same shit again when it falls...
There are going to be hits just like all other BTG slots. Overall, its the same as all their other slots... money grabbing compenriggsated shit.
Big Time Bullshitters
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After my moan the other day I have had a couple more sessions with both ending up in break even. The features have been allowing me past 10 spins about 60% of the time. However they have been paying crap, managed to get to 20 spins which resulted in a modest £97 at 60p. Did get a 200 x win on a max megaway spin which is very rare as normally reel 3 has a blocker but it saved me busting
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Gotta say its been crap for ages, first 2weekd tons of playtime and wins now it just eats and features seems 50% loose on 8spin gamble.
Worst u notice is how rare K hits on 2nd reel its 99% deadspin if u dont got already it just never drops down.
Worst u notice is how rare K hits on 2nd reel its 99% deadspin if u dont got already it just never drops down.
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