Beware!! Credit Card Thieves

[MaryJean]

Contacted Casino

I contacted Slotastic last night (where I 'think' my problem originated) and they blocked both of my cards. They were very gracious and apologized for my problems.

I don't believe that 'they' had anything to do with it, but I think that one of their processors did, because it was there that I first was denied a deposit 'because my card had been overused'.(standard error excuse)

I supposed at the time that I had played there more than I thought, but then when I found that one of my cards had been hacked----it was the OTHER card than the one I attempted to use at Slotastic.

To check things out I went to Jackpot Capital and deposited---using the card that had been denied at Slotastic. It was at that time good. The next day I received the call from that cards fraud dept. and it too had been hacked.

Now the question is---how did the processor at Slotastic recognize that there was a problem with the second card when it was still active---and Jackpot Capital had accepted it???hmmmm?

MaryJean

 

[BMWSTACK]

Sometimes cards get denied for one reason or another , but will then go through a second time. Also they probably have more than one processor so it could have been a different processor when depositing at Jackpot.

Are you saying you have now had a second card that had fraud?

 

[MaryJean]

Sometimes cards get denied for one reason or another , but will then go through a second time. Also they probably have more than one processor so it could have been a different processor when depositing at Jackpot.

Are you saying you have now had a second card that had fraud?

Yes---two of them---One a MC debit card and the other a Visa credit card.

Within a day of each other. Both were ONLY used at online casinos.

Both had charges for Airlines. One in Africa and one in Dublin, Ireland. (plus other 'stuff').

Neither my card nor I ever left home.

MaryJean

 

[paul7388]

Just a thought but are you all sure its employees of casinos that are getting your card details. Are you sure there is no virus on your pc or possibility that your pc has been hacked as then it would be easy for them to get your details. Especially if its a card that only gets used online and also someone had 2 cards hacked within a couple of days.

 

[MaryJean]

Just a thought but are you all sure its employees of casinos that are getting your card details. Are you sure there is no virus on your pc or possibility that your pc has been hacked as then it would be easy for them to get your details. Especially if its a card that only gets used online and also someone had 2 cards hacked within a couple of days.

I doubt that it is my computer. Three reasons at least---one: I ran all of my security checks since this happened and the computer is clean.

Second:---the ONLY two cards that are in question are the ONLY two that I use for online casinos----

Third:---online casinos are the ONLY place I use either one of them.

I doubt that it is an employee of the casino---it is probably the processor----look at how many of us have had this happen in the last few days, playing on different platforms.

The processors are a 'business' and as such surely 'work' for various clients.

MaryJean

 

[paul7388]

That is why I asked maryjean as like you said you only use the 2 cards online at online casinos. So if anyone managed to hack your pc that is the 2 they would get. Many security checks and virus scans do not pick up every infection on a pc.

 

[spintee]

That is why I asked maryjean as like you said you only use the 2 cards online at online casinos. So if anyone managed to hack your pc that is the 2 they would get. Many security checks and virus scans do not pick up every infection on a pc.

Why would it be the only 2? She siad she only used 2 cards for gamble and most probs use other cards for bills and shoping ect, If a virus than surley would of picked them up to? Hense pretty sure it was the casino side of things,
Also its pretty clear its a casino side of things as you do not see tesco or argos asking for scans of your I.D

 

[paul7388]

Why would it be the only 2? She siad she only used 2 cards for gamble and most probs use other cards for bills and shoping ect, If a virus than surley would of picked them up to? Hense pretty sure it was the casino side of things,
Also its pretty clear its a casino side of things as you do not see tesco or argos asking for scans of your I.D

Was not saying it was a virus and I had not posted it just for maryjean. Had made the point that peoples credit card details can be obtained via there pc so its a possibility even tho the casino processor is probably the right call. And if you have id scanned on your pc that can be obtained the same way as your credit card details tho no one would need them to use your card. Anyway why is it these days everyone jumps on the offensive when someone makes a simple suggestion. Most credit cards and bank details are actually obtained from a persons pc which is why I suggested it. Don't know why I bother.

 

[spintee]

Was not saying it was a virus and I had not posted it just for maryjean. Had made the point that peoples credit card details can be obtained via there pc so its a possibility even tho the casino processor is probably the right call. And if you have id scanned on your pc that can be obtained the same way as your credit card details tho no one would need them to use your card. Anyway why is it these days everyone jumps on the offensive when someone makes a simple suggestion. Most credit cards and bank details are actually obtained from a persons pc which is why I suggested it. Don't know why I bother.

Didnt mean no offensive there, My wording my of sounded abit wrong, Please do not take this in any bad way, I was just saying that you are right and pc do get attacked, Its only happen to be the cards she uses on casinos, What was stoping them from taking details from other cards?

Happy Spinning

 

[MaryJean]

Didnt mean no offensive there, My wording my of sounded abit wrong, Please do not take this in any bad way, I was just saying that you are right and pc do get attacked, Its only happen to be the cards she uses on casinos, What was stoping them from taking details from other cards?

Happy Spinning

We are all certainly vulnerable to computer hacking, but from the experience I have had with this deposit problem and the fact that other people are experiencing the same type fraudulent charges at the same time and seemingly from the same sources, leads me to believe that it is probably the processors.

It would be a great coincidence if it were a computer hacker for my personal computer on my desk at home and another computer hacker for one of the others at the same time.

The evidence just seems to lean towards the processors. But ALL of our ideas put together will tend to keep us ALL on our toes!

AND perhaps the casinos will check up on the agencies that they use, if that is possible.

The last resort would be that we ALL quit playing online casino games. NOW there is a thought!

OR how about this one?----We ALL throw our computers in the trash and go back to paper and pencil????

MaryJean

 

[spintee]

We are all certainly vulnerable to computer hacking, but from the experience I have had with this deposit problem and the fact that other people are experiencing the same type fraudulent charges at the same time and seemingly from the same sources, leads me to believe that it is probably the processors.

It would be a great coincidence if it were a computer hacker for my personal computer on my desk at home and another computer hacker for one of the others at the same time.

The evidence just seems to lean towards the processors. But ALL of our ideas put together will tend to keep us ALL on our toes!

AND perhaps the casinos will check up on the agencies that they use, if that is possible.

The last resort would be that we ALL quit playing online casino games. NOW there is a thought!

OR how about this one?----We ALL throw our computers in the trash and go back to paper and pencil????

MaryJean

pen and pencil sounds good, would save me alot of cash and alot less headaches,
No mater what security there is now days unfortunately theres always going to be fraud in this technology world, Only other week in other threads reps was saying that all is secure and goes straight to head of payments? But VWM insistead that sending emails is nether safe and when even if got threw syber safe than who is really at the other end of the email, Only takes 1 crook to snap a shot or foward emails,
We all to trusting really and 99% of the time there really is not need to send threw all documents ect

 

[Nicola]

I remember clicking on a banner last month on CM to a RTG site and I entered my Mastercard (Capital One) number in the casino software but the payment rejected. When speaking with their support staff they told me they do not accept players from the UK using a Mastercard.

Would highly doubt it was any of the NetEnt sites I used as they have third party verification on all transactions.

Can't remember the RTG site I joined, sorry

 

[dunover]

The misappropriation of credit card details by bent staff in many businesses, especially in the third world is a bigger problem than they will admit. The problem is brushed under the carpet due to the businesses love of low-cost foreign outsourcing. Thieves are paid several dollars for each of the valid card details they supply, and then the fraudsters take over. No amount of online security will stop some low-paid employees doing this. But hey! they're cheap and it happens...

 

[MaryJean]

The misappropriation of credit card details by bent staff in many businesses, especially in the third world is a bigger problem than they will admit. The problem is brushed under the carpet due to the businesses love of low-cost foreign outsourcing. Thieves are paid several dollars for each of the valid card details they supply, and then the fraudsters take over. No amount of online security will stop some low-paid employees doing this. But hey! they're cheap and it happens...

Yes--everything looks REAL Secure!!! Just look at the spam on this forum today!!!

BUY CHEAP---REAL OR FAKE!

And they actually ADVERTISE it!!!!

"Where are the Cops when you need them?"

MaryJean

 

[all4greed]

Fraud

Well add me to the list. Five charges ranging from 4-285 yesterday on my debit card. Only one that went through was for match.com. It's most likely from Club World, perhaps Slots.lv. Last time I went through this with INB 2 years ago, 3 cards used, all 3 stolen within a 3 month period.

Just started playing at Club World again on June 13 after years of not playing so I'm pretty sure it's their processor. So damn irritating...

 

[lotusch]

With all these cases I am getting very reluctant to use my cards online now...
Mostly I use Skrill for deposits anyway which go through my prepaid MC,hopefully I won't be targeted by these vile scumbags...

 

[all4greed]

We are all certainly vulnerable to computer hacking, but from the experience I have had with this deposit problem and the fact that other people are experiencing the same type fraudulent charges at the same time and seemingly from the same sources, leads me to believe that it is probably the processors.
MaryJean

It's either the processors or the casinos directly. My experience of using a replacement card ONLY at INB and having the card stolen within 10 days proved it for me. There are some serious problems with these casinos with security/processors/whatever the hell they are doing or rather are not doing.

 

[MaryJean]

It's either the processors or the casinos directly. My experience of using a replacement card ONLY at INB and having the card stolen within 10 days proved it for me. There are some serious problems with these casinos with security/processors/whatever the hell they are doing or rather are not doing.

I have been wondering what will happen when I get a replacement card.

I think I shall experiment one place at a time and s-l-o-wly.

Or maybe not at all---I am with you---I am getting leery. I have been playing for years with no trouble and now all of a sudden---two of them---both at places I thought were trustworthy.

I notice that none of the reps have chimed in to this thread at all! Even when we have named names.

MaryJean

 

[all4greed]

I notice that none of the reps have chimed in to this thread at all! Even when we have named names.
MaryJean

I don't expect reps to really address the problem because it is obviously a huge issue. Remember, the people that are posting about this here are a very small fraction of players. So this type of fraud could affect hundreds or even thousands of players. What casino rep is going to state that kind of info and expect players to trust their security from now on? What guarantee and assurance can they give?

I've been dealing with fraud back to the days of using Paypal to deposit at casinos. Even had my name, address, phone number, credit card used, etc. along with hundreds of other players info posted on the web by some disgruntled employee (don't recall the casino) years ago. Was a bit freaky to see that info even though I canceled the card before it was posted.

 

[BMWSTACK]

I don't expect reps to really address the problem because it is obviously a huge issue. Remember, the people that are posting about this here are a very small fraction of players. So this type of fraud could affect hundreds or even thousands of players. What casino rep is going to state that kind of info and expect players to trust their security from now on? What guarantee and assurance can they give?

I've been dealing with fraud back to the days of using Paypal to deposit at casinos. Even had my name, address, phone number, credit card used, etc. along with hundreds of other players info posted on the web by some disgruntled employee (don't recall the casino) years ago. Was a bit freaky to see that info even though I canceled the card before it was posted.

At the same time it will most likely come down to processor, and lots of casinos use multiple processors. Im sure even if the casino were to ask the processor Iam sure the response would be "no problems here."

It is a shame that this is happening and will probably continue for a while until whatever or whoever is caught.

 

[syntynyt]

Thieves are paid several dollars for each of the valid card details they supply, and then the fraudsters take over. No amount of online security will stop some low-paid employees doing this. But hey! they're cheap and it happens...

this is indeed the case of the fellow americans. card details are sell packed for bitcoins but not really for several dollars, much more is involved because they are the main target because the chance to found an empty card is slim.

for americans read this thread and my post and walk with money like gangsters with blocks of cash than keeping 'safely' on card
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/62232/

 

[brandtstifter]

I dont even use credit Cards in online Casinos anymore. I just use Skrill and Neteller. Thank God so far i havent had any money stolen online.

 

[spintee]

Got me worried for a while
Check bank and something not right, Money has gone in, Wait for it .49p I said no some ones trying to test my bank and dry me out, Straight on tele banking with barclys, Great stuff 30 seconds and was chating with some1, Im checking out the transaction details my self with a google search and 1st thing comes up (poker, and alot of nettler talk in there, Women I spoke to said let me check & said after she searched she seen poker come up, Thats all I need as I not play poker,
She passed me threw to fraud and they knew exacltly where it come from, Nettler, BUT it said nettler poker, I clicked on that the other day I uploaded my new details to nettler so I told bank its all good, Got to live chat to nets and said we send only amounts to 24p, So again I thought whats going on, Anyway I went to my account put in the vere box amount box the amount and whack all sorted,

It was actually nettler that added the deposit to make sure banks ok, But forget the google serch I done how vomes the 1st banker didnt no where it was from and done a serch the same as my self, & 2nd the fraud peole if thats who they was knew exact where the money come from, But why poker nettler

(bank transaction) BAR MER WIR GBP1 591952 BGC £0.49

All ready stressed out, non stop last 2 weeks, Just open an early beer again 1st in 2 weeks and seen that, so glad that it was not scam,
Im going to stick to using nettler ect now for any new sites I sign up to, Ive had the net+ cards for ages now so alow it charge me if wanted withdraw from atm its safer and quicker

Sorry about spells

Happy Spinning

 

[milemaster]

Interesting

This thread is pretty timely. This Monday I had to cancel my card due to several attempted charges to Vueling Airlines in Spain. My bank declined the charges as the fraud detection caught it. Over 750 usd combined in the two charges.

My gaming deposits have been limited to iNetBet, Slotocash, and Desert Nights for this year.

 

[tat00]

Gawd am i pissed -

i went to Vegas for my birthday and so during the stay i got a call from chase bank asking if i tried to purchase something from a sporting good store in Sacramento for 492 dollars i said hell no so they blocked my card, i was worried for a moment and then i realized we still have my wife's card for the trip but same bank - low and behold next day same thing and it was worst they tried about 10 different charges , so now while we are on vacation we have no cards both blocked and it was a Saturday with only 200 in my pocket and still need to pay for my room at end of trip (Wynn hotel aint cheap) so i pleaded with chase rep to help me i cant be stranded in Vegas, so they pointed me to nearest chase bank still open in Vegas - i rushed over there and they gave me new card and i took cash out in case-

now i only play at these casinos-
jackpot capital
grande
sloto
inetbet
lucky club

looking at this thread i too believe one of the casinos and their processors have been targeted and their customers, which one i don't know. and im not pointing fingers
to the casino themselves, too many perhaps to think of.

im concerned now playing at all or just getting a card for only online casinos. i dont use third party online banks cause its a headache i been fine with using card to deposit and western union when cashing out (fastest way for USA i believe)