More New Gambling Reforms for Aussies:
Australia Plans To Allow Family Members To Ban Loved Ones From Casinos
Australia Plans To Allow Family Members To Ban Loved Ones From Casinos
1. Loved one reports spouse
2. Club investigates and deems there to be no issue, either to keep the revenue stream or because the player gambles at many different locations, or because the player doesn't actually have a gambling problem.
3. Player loses life savings, or a lot of money, although not necessarily life savings (money the player may/may not be able to afford).
4a. Spouse sues club - as life savings were joint savings.
4b. Spouse sues club - even though life savings were not his/hers, therefore the spouse has no right to sue the club to begin with.
4c. Fraudster sues club - new legislation is regarded as a way to try to get back any losing deposits, by posing as problem gambler and spouse
5a. Spouse wins lawsuit and every club thereafter automatically rules all future investigations against all players to limit liability
5b. Spouse losses lawsuit which confirms that this is another pointless piece of garbage legislation to prevent an actual solution to the issue, which would be a countrywide players card you can set limits and exclusions on.
5c. In both cases, relationship breaks down due to anger, resentment and loss of trust on both sides.
Made a few amendments to ponder over:
- The cost to the industry - changing machines to accept cards, production and administration of cards - would be horrendous.
No it wouldn't. That's a pretty obvious excuse from the industry. There's already countless databases run locally and in a linked manner for various "Loyalty" programs via ID'd cards at many different clubs. And there's no logistical reason it would be especially expensive.
And this is where one of the main costs would be - changing machines to accept a card, and also removing the possibility of stand-alone cash deposits.
Judging by the cronyism present and subsequent monopolies the B&M casinos have in Australia, im guessing this cost wouldn’t even touch the sides.On the contrary. It is a major consideration - and headache - for those who would design, implement and monitor this scheme.
As it would need to be implemented nationwide, the local databases you mention just wouldn't cut it. Possibly in regional areas where options are more limited, but in cities, people could - and would - travel to areas totally outside the reach of those local databases.
Additionally, all player cards would have to follow the same standards, so they are tracked by any machine, no matter where the player is.
And this is where one of the main costs would be - changing machines to accept a card, and also removing the possibility of stand-alone cash deposits.
Also, who would issue the cards, set and monitor the deposit limits, etc. And would there not need to be some sort of regulatory authority to ensure the system is working correctly, as well as ensuring the law is being followed?
I still think set-up and follow-on costs would be expensive.
Having said that, I think it has the fundamentals to be a really good idea, and just could work.
Except it could end up going down the SOW route - prove that you have the funds to gamble, and have very low limits available regardless.
Perhaps we need to be careful what we wish for.
Is the current government likely to be re-elected next year, if not would any likely replacement change any of these reforms?
Spread over the whole of Australia, the costs increase exponentially, as the adaptation of the current machines is not just getting them to accept player cards, but also to remove the use of cash without a card. And don't forget that those existing player cards would probably have to be scrapped, as a common format would be required. And then we have the whole monitoring/admin side to be ironed out. IMHO implementing this scheme is not going to be as cheap or as easy as you think.If my local golf club in the middle of nowhere can implement player reward cards, then it can't be too expensive.
Card readers are dirt cheap and already interfaced with the machines, which are all already networked, it would probably cost a couple weeks profit to implement.
Obviously old age is getting to me. Not sure what you mean? However, if you are saying that the casinos, clubs, etc can afford it, then yes, I am sure they can. But would they want to? That is the question to which 42 is probably not the answer.Judging by the cronyism present and subsequent monopolies the B&M casinos have in Australia, im guessing this cost wouldn’t even touch the sides.
as the adaptation of the current machines is not just getting them to accept player cards, but also to remove the use of cash without a card.
Again, the local pub out here in the middle of nowhere was able to implement a cashless deposit/withdrawal system based on tickets, it is not that difficult or expensive.
I can see why the clubs, pubs and casinos would be making these excuses but I'm a little lost as to why you are? Do you think it would be only a matter of time until the system was "expanded" to restrict players beyond the initial scope? Because that's the only negative I could see potentially arising.
Fair enough, I may have been a bit overly defensive there.