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largeeyes said:
Spear, nothing person, but attacking the boy with cancer probably isn't a hot idea....... :eek2:

I think Spear was attacking eBay for not allowing the auction that boy started, not attacking the boy himself.
 
spearmaster said:
I think this should have made it pretty clear who I was attacking :) The boy absolutely deserves help for his tumor.

Talk about a load of SHIT... boy tries to raise money for medical expenses...


That's what I was talking about. I know what you meant....just know that people can construe your words in ways you never meant when allt hey have to work with is type.
 
spearmaster said:
Talk about a load of SHIT... boy tries to raise money for medical expenses...


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EBay didn't say anything about our attempt - they simply suspended Casinomeister's account. AND kept the fees to boot.

Since when is giving something for a good cause BAD? And what the hell is their Missionfish charitable setup all about?

What a bunch of jokers. I never really used eBay anyhow, but I am really starting to wish they would rot in hell.

Ebay bought paypal? They frown on gambling because of political pressure. part of the story lies there. I would write about it extensively, I don't feel qualified to do the story justice..

The burgeoning online gambling taboo..

The ban gambling crew in the US to the idiots in the industry with their popup hell, spam everything that moves mentality, plunge the online gambling taboo to even further depths than it deserves seeing that admittedly it is a vice. The licensing authorities just profiteering over the years has a cost in the short term. Long term they will be forgotten.

We know who these people are.

Now it matters. Now it hurts. I can tell.
 
Astonishing how fast a thread/topic like this can spin off at a tangent.

Respectfully, back on topic, folks - email your casinos and tell them to come to the party before this auction ends.
 
I just emailed the Jackpot Factory Group with a link here. I know them all pretty well there and they need to step up to the plate along with the other microgamings!!! I know they ( the MG's ) have the funds and can't believe all that are bidding are RTG's and others...

come on MG's!!! HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT!!!
 
slotchik said:
I just emailed the Jackpot Factory Group with a link here. I know them all pretty well there and they need to step up to the plate along with the other microgamings!!! I know they ( the MG's ) have the funds and can't believe all that are bidding are RTG's and others...

come on MG's!!! HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT!!!
32red was in there, and methinks a number of these casinos are waiting for the eleventh hour so to speak

Thursday evening (my time) should be pretty interesting. :D
 
Yahooo!

Ebay reads their emails :D

Hello Bryan,

Thank you for contacting us about this matter.

I reviewed your account and determined that you should be reinstated.
Watch for a separate email with more information.

Regards,

Ely
eBay SafeHarbor
Investigations Team


Oops! Day late and a dollar short. We're doing it without them :D
 
Look all the bid history, feel sad about some casino owners.

Two sites got a total of 13,000 hits per day, that's lot prime traffic.

Conclution, they are cheap, short sighted, greedy chicken shit. :lolup:
 
arbster said:
I gave up a lucrative sideline buying/selling on ebay after their Customer Service let me down several times too often - it was just too much hassle working with them and too galling to be lining their pockets at the same time. They've not got a clue.

Ebay is huge, not an excause, but they can't personally respond to every little $1 transaction gone wrong. I sell a lot so I get 24/7 telephone support, never a long hold. Also, they return fees if they cancel and item. Not to get off post. Great idea to donate this way, everyone agrees. But there are there are ways one can donate with out at the same time helping criminals. That would be the case if Crystal Palace won. If two wrongs don't make a right, does one wrong and a bigger right make a right in the end? And it is a joke to say "if you don't want them to win, just be the high bidder". Not everyone runs a casino or has 35K + to donate. So lets all find a way to donate and not support criminals, it is really not that hard to do.
 
Second to that!

There's a way to donate also stop crime, bid the space for hahacasino.com, seriously. :)
 
Golden Palace will already know about this, you can be sure of that. They're certainly the lesser of two evils. I'd take their huge player rip of late 2000 against Cloud's crimes any day of the week. Maybe they'll bid, but Playtech and Bryan don't exactly enjoy a relationship made in heaven, and since we don't know when this thing ends one has to figure that the interested parties have by now all showed their hands. Maybe there are some decent trump cards yet to be played, however.

And yes, bereft of a casino and 40K gathering dust somewhere it's rather hard to put up opposing bids.

EDIT: My mistake, it ends Thursday.
 
chucho said:
Great idea to donate this way, everyone agrees. But there are there are ways one can donate with out at the same time helping criminals. That would be the case if Crystal Palace won. If two wrongs don't make a right, does one wrong and a bigger right make a right in the end? And it is a joke to say "if you don't want them to win, just be the high bidder". Not everyone runs a casino or has 35K + to donate. So lets all find a way to donate and not support criminals, it is really not that hard to do.
I think some of these comments are coming out of a perspective that has been hanging around the messages boards a bit too much.

For one thing, Spearmaster stated that if you don't like who's bidding, then contact your favorite casino and have them bid - bear in mind there are a number that are waiting until the last day. Spear and I are making this available to casino operators, if you have another plan to drive a large amount of money from players or portal owners, then knock yourself out. But in this situation, to complain that you don't like who is standing up to the plate, go find a different batter. I'm concerned about knocking the ball out of the ball park - not so much on who's hitting the ball.

What are you talking about "If two wrongs don't make a right, does one wrong and a bigger right make a right in the end?" I don't follow your logic, sorry. Supporting criminals? Who is more of a criminal, players who defraud a casino and post fraudulant complaints in forums, or casino operators who shut these players down? That's a rhetorical question not to be persued or answered in this thread, but I will be glad to answer this in another.

Further, this auction is not about ebay and publicity, and I'm happy as hell it's not onebay since I am able to waive any seller or bidder costs. I am also able to weed out any fraudulant bids (there have been two already). This is not about publicity. Everyone who needs to know about this auction, knows about it - and they know where to find it. And anyone who wants to act as a spectator and cheer their favorite team on knows what to do as well.

Some of you players can get busy too. Stop your whining and make yourself useful.

caruso said:
Maybe there are some decent trump cards yet to be played, however.
I agree.
 
I should also mention that some casinos have already shown quite a bit of generosity. Winward casino donated $100,000 last week. The VPL group has a plan as well (as stated earlier in this thread).
 
Do the two of you have selective dyslexia or what?

I said:

I repeat yet again - if you don't happen to favor the current high bidder, either bid higher yourself or convince your favorite casino to place a higher bid.

And I also meant what I said about cynics - if you have nothing constructive to do, STAY out of the thread - or go look at some of the devastation that was caused and reprogram your brain.
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spearmaster said:
...go look at some of the devastation that was caused and reprogram your brain.
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Forget it Spear, me thinks their Crystal Palace issues are more important or relevant than this.
 
Bryan, this is a very good and imaginatively thought-out initiative, creating an effectively endlessly spiralling sum by squaring off an infinite number of operators against each other. It would be IDEAL if a good group wins the bidding, but that's just a nit-pick, brought to the fore by the general atmosphere of dislike of rogue operators but still a nit-pick in the context of the thing. I hope you end up making a mint for the cause, and you deserve a lot of credit for thinking this up.
 
I just don't care, who is winner. Good, bad or ugly casino/company.

But i know, that this horrific Tsunami tragedy is/was one of the biggest tragedy in human history.

Millions homeless, at least 150,000 people lost their lives, etc

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ezc3m said:
forgive my ignorance, but which casinos belong to the "online gambling" group?
That's for us (Ted and I) to know and you to find out on Thursday, maybe :D

They pushed the bid up by 10k so you know they aren't small time.

caruso said:
I hope you end up making a mint for the cause, and you deserve a lot of credit for thinking this up.
Thanks Caruso! And for the record, this was Ted's initial idea - we just put our heads and resources together to make this work :D
 
ps we can get hold too over 100 computers, alot of people dont like your fake ass

If you want to know the truth about casinomeister, visit casinomeistersucks.com

The truth about a fake casino watch dog site.

Twice he failed with a players union. He is more for the glory and less for the player and his fav saying, there alot of things go on behind close doors, yes you like to pad your pocket and get paid. You will never admit some software compaines are fixed cause you are fukning greedy.


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Please excuse the misbehavior of Damian Dunlap who obviously thinks this is funny.

I was not going to mention anything to save the man some embarrassment, but after Bethug's banning last week, he tried to sabotage the auction at least once this weekend with fake bidding. When I confronted him about this, his reply was:

Fuck you, casinomeistersucks.com
and

You love to keep insulting me, you a fucking clown

You trying to say i am broke

There are several others who are privy to this as well.

It's hard to believe that this is coming from an adult who sells real estate in Southern California.

There was another attempt to screw up the auction by malicious bids, but I'm not sure if it was Damian or not. I couldn't really care less.
 
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Sheesh Damian... you're throwing away everything you claim to have accomplished over the past few years...

We will see about onlinegambling if he wins the bid - but both Casinomeister and I have met him and know he is 100% serious. And big kudos for the bid! :D
 
I think some of these comments are coming out of a perspective that has been hanging around the messages boards a bit too much.

For one thing, Spearmaster stated that if you don't like who's bidding, then contact your favorite casino and have them bid - bear in mind there are a number that are waiting until the last day. Spear and I are making this available to casino operators, if you have another plan to drive a large amount of money from players or portal owners, then knock yourself out. But in this situation, to complain that you don't like who is standing up to the plate, go find a different batter. I'm concerned about knocking the ball out of the ball park - not so much on who's hitting the ball.

What are you talking about "If two wrongs don't make a right, does one wrong and a bigger right make a right in the end?" I don't follow your logic, sorry. Supporting criminals? Who is more of a criminal, players who defraud a casino and post fraudulant complaints in forums, or casino operators who shut these players down? That's a rhetorical question not to be persued or answered in this thread, but I will be glad to answer this in another.

Further, this auction is not about ebay and publicity, and I'm happy as hell it's not onebay since I am able to waive any seller or bidder costs. I am also able to weed out any fraudulant bids (there have been two already). This is not about publicity. Everyone who needs to know about this auction, knows about it - and they know where to find it. And anyone who wants to act as a spectator and cheer their favorite team on knows what to do as well.

Some of you players can get busy too. Stop your whining and make yourself useful.
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For Oliver Curran, this is a no brainier. I imagine that any smart casino operator will have a very good idea on what their investment will bring them. I have no idea, but lets say for example that Crystal Palace has a max bid of 75K because they figure that this exposure will bring them at least enough new players that they can recoup/steal back the 75K. Not to mention that this exposure on one of the most trusted sites will bring them much undeserved legitimacy. So as long as Crystal Palace is on with the math, there is no reason not to bid up to X amount of dollars, they cant lose. And 75K or whatever to South Asian relief efforts is great. But what about the thousands of dollars that are stolen from players who go to Crystal Palace through Casino Meister? It is frequently said, go to Casino Meister, WOL or other reputable sites before you play. So the new player goes to Casino Meister and the first thing he sees is a banner for Crystal Palace, deposits, wins.well you know the rest of the story. I have said my point, and I know that I can email my favorite casinos and tell them to bid, but that might hurt as I have been banned from them all as I am a scumbag bonus pimp.

Hopefully this is a mute issue and a reputable casino will step in at the end. That is what a smart bidder would do, bid with 5 seconds left rather than to jack up the price early like criminal Curran has done. But if Crystal Palace wins, then I pray for all the people that go there and hope to god that none of them come from the stricken regions. How ironic, someone from Indonesia signs up at Crystal Palace through Casino Meister in the hopes of making some much needed cash, wins only to find out that he will never be paid. How ironic, Crystal Palace has prime banner space on Casino Meister and at the same time is listed in the evil casino section as under investigation for business ethics. How ironic that someone with such obvious intelligence as bthug would flip out like that..wait, that one is not so ironic ;)
 
Has it occurred to you that money can help thousands of lives?

Has it occurred to you that money bid by a casino you don't like is no longer in their hands, but is going towards saving lives?

Has it occurred to you that perhaps you could be doing something to help?

Or have none of these things occurred, and you just need something to snipe at?

At this very moment I am working with someone who has identified a body as likely to be that of her co-worker, and afraid to show to the person's mother - this was made possible only because OneThailand is the only remaining site who has any pictures whatsoever of bodies that were collected from the main area of destruction, Khao Lak.

This is despite the fact that the hospital is no longer making the pictures available - despite the fact that they have no idea what a travesty of justice they are committing - and only possible because I grabbed the images from their server because their server was bogged down to complete uselessness.

The reason I didn't sell advertising on OneThailand is because there IS no advertising, no credits, no selling, no nothing but information and links to information. However, advertising on Got2Bet has a value (though Casinomeister space is the real prize here) and so that is what I put up for bids.

Do you think I really care who wins the bid? All I care about is getting people the help they need.

If you cannot see beyond that, then please just leave us alone. I have better things to do than try to justify my reasons for getting involved in an auction of ad space.

At least grant us that little favor.
 
casinomeister said:
Please excuse the misbehavior of Damian Dunlap who obviously thinks this is funny.

I was not going to mention anything to save the man some embarrassment, but after Bethug's banning last week, he tried to sabotage the auction at least once this weekend with fake bidding. When I confronted him about this, his reply was:

Fuck you, casinomeistersucks.com
and

You love to keep insulting me, you a fucking clown

You trying to say i am broke

There are several others who are privy to this as well.

It's hard to believe that this is coming from an adult who sells real estate in Southern California.

There was another attempt to screw up the auction by malicious bids, but I'm not sure if it was Damian or not. I couldn't really care less.

The fake bids were particularly irresponsible and nasty, and clearly the most potentially damaging of these actions.

The site is rather like a naughty little boy spraying insults on a school wall, and about as effective. Damian, you need to remember that you are representing people in your capacity as the President of the OPU - you're not just an eccentric individual any more.

This is not creating the right impression of a balanced and reasonable adult, and you need to put a stop to this ridiculous behaviour before you harm your reputation any further.
 
spearmaster said:
Has it occurred to you that money can help thousands of lives?

Has it occurred to you that money bid by a casino you don't like is no longer in their hands, but is going towards saving lives?

Has it occurred to you that perhaps you could be doing something to help?

Or have none of these things occurred, and you just need something to snipe at?

At this very moment I am working with someone who has identified a body as likely to be that of her co-worker, and afraid to show to the person's mother - this was made possible only because OneThailand is the only remaining site who has any pictures whatsoever of bodies that were collected from the main area of destruction, Khao Lak.

This is despite the fact that the hospital is no longer making the pictures available - despite the fact that they have no idea what a travesty of justice they are committing - and only possible because I grabbed the images from their server because their server was bogged down to complete uselessness.

The reason I didn't sell advertising on OneThailand is because there IS no advertising, no credits, no selling, no nothing but information and links to information. However, advertising on Got2Bet has a value (though Casinomeister space is the real prize here) and so that is what I put up for bids.

Do you think I really care who wins the bid? All I care about is getting people the help they need.

If you cannot see beyond that, then please just leave us alone. I have better things to do than try to justify my reasons for getting involved in an auction of ad space.

At least grant us that little favor.

I have donated what I could to UNICEF and I hope that it in no way helped a criminal organization. I did my research on UNICEF and it appears that most of the money does not got to the CEO or other expenses, but to the people we want to help. I did my research on Crystal Palace and it appears that they are dishonest. So with all due respect, I will donate it a way where my giving does not have the reciprocal effect of hurting others, even if the others are not in as great a need. I will leave it at that other than to say that when you run an auction on ebay, you can cancel bids. Cancel rouge bids, it is simple as that. Then the charity wins and innocent players don't get burned.
 
chucho said:
...I have been banned from them all as I am a scumbag bonus pimp...
You said it, I didn't.

You're coming up with a lot of "what ifs" which are basically meaningless. I suggest dropping the matter and wait until the bidding is over. Then feel free to bitch and moan all you like.
 
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cream is on top, best show is at last.

i believe 100k is not the winner.

who wants to bet me? :lolup:
 
Top idea! Looks like there's going to be some serious money raised too, fantastic stuff!!! The whole thing is just a bit incomprehensible... The more I see on the 24hour news channels, the more I struggle to understand how something so destructive can happen so quickly. It's weird how we all worry about terrorist attacks and crime and all that nonsense, then a natural disaster like that can instantly have such devastating impact. Like I say, incomprehensible. :(

And speaking of things not making any sense... I just clicked that casinomeistersucks.com link up there. What the HELL is that all about!?! Is it a joke, or some manic schizophrenic loony thing??? What's the world coming to with such a half hearted attempt? Jeez, people don't even put any effort into having a go these days.

Keep up the good work, and good luck to all involved with the auction! :thumbsup:
 
largeeyes said:
Man, what a pissing match this has turned into. When was bethug banned anyways?

Bethug is history couple of days now.

I just clicked that casinomeistersucks.com and I can say the following:When we judge people we do not define them but rather we define ourselves are someones who need to judge,label people.If you dont like casinomeister you have the option to not visit.Also in this occasion i can see a lot of hatred coming out from some individuals.That tells me that if hatred comes out from then that's whats inside them.It's the same like when you squeeze an orange.What comes out is always juice because that's what inside.
As a conclusion it is my opinion that damian is way out of line.I once beleived that he's more balanced than that.
 
Damian & Bryan got into a bit of a pissing contest over Crystal Palace, Damian shot his mouth off a little too much, got barred and stuck up the "sucks" site in a red mist. All the fun and games to be found in the "wild card" forum.

Online Gambling currently at just over 50K, ousting Mr. Cloud by...one dollar. :)
 
Holy cow,

I got snowed in and lost electricity for a while and look what all goes on.

A beautiful thread about helping disaster victims and some nuts turn it into a pixxing match.

Perhaps we can get back on an even keel here.

I watched TV last night after I got the juice back and saw a report on the disaster areas - absolutely unbelievabkle, the devestation and misery.

We all need to kick in here - I chose to do it through Neteller because it is most convenient for me.

As far as I am concerened, everyone's money is good here. The more the merrier - this is about helping devestated people and not about shaping up the casino industry. We can spend the rest of the year doing that. Now it's time to act and help, not to be a hindrance to the cause.
 
dominique said:
Holy cow,

I got snowed in and lost electricity for a while and look what all goes on.

A beautiful thread about helping disaster victims and some nuts turn it into a pixxing match.

Perhaps we can get back on an even keel here.

I watched TV last night after I got the juice back and saw a report on the disaster areas - absolutely unbelievabkle, the devestation and misery.
...

Like i said. Like i mean. But it seems here is some kind of ego-competition.
So i suggest, that you meanwhile donate some (more) money to Red Cross, Unicef, where ever... They still need help, and long time!
 

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