Are Trademark Violations being condoned by Casino Affiliate Programs?

[Webzcas]

What are the odds that the same individual/s or company was and is also behind this https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/iatld-site-hacked-to-promote-casinos.56276/

 

[maphesto]

What are the odds that the same individual/s or company was and is also behind this https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/iatld-site-hacked-to-promote-casinos.56276/

The sites mentioned in this post is recognized in this "aussiecasinomeister" thing.

Checking links from "xxaussiecasinomeister.com" /"xxhttp://exquisitecasinos.com" gives us the same wagershares landingpage as in the thread last year:

xxhttp://www.rubyfortune.com/lp/online-pokies

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

 

[Webzcas]

Not the same Wagershare that owe me over £3,000 and featured an incredible amount of locked players each and every month I promoted them? Also not the same Wagershare that told Bryan to contact WIPO?

Say it's not so

 

[chayton]

Now maybe you should contact Andy @ Mr. Green to find out who's behind handy-casinomeister dot com - different casinos but the same person/people as behind handycasinomeister dot etc. If you look at the source code it's identical on both sites, they even have the same favicon.

 

[Casinomeister]

Now maybe you should contact Andy @ Mr. Green to find out who's behind handy-casinomeister dot com - different casinos but the same person/people as behind handycasinomeister dot etc. If you look at the source code it's identical on both sites, they even have the same favicon.

Thanks - I think he's on it already.

As for aussiecasinomeister.com - the affiliate has told me (via a hotmail account and what I'm assuming is a fake name) that he's not giving it up because he has put a lot of work into the website and feels it doesn't infringe my rights, and that he's he's done enough already by redirecting it, and that I'm going at him out of spite. I'm not going after him out of spite - I'm am only protecting my name.

The reason I've been so adamant about this is how this damages the Casinomeister name and brand. Check out the Google results for the term "casinomeister"


Aussiecasinomeister is the third result. Visitors seeing this would easily assume that this is connected to me. So I'm dealing with this properly, via the legal route. Lastly, the affiliate has threatened me to do whatever harm he can do to Casinomeister (legally). So that email was forwarded to my lawyer as well.

 

[pokeraddict]

IMO that site showing up in your SERPs makes it very easy to prove damages. If you have affiliate programs that have rejected these content and trademark thieves I would love to hear about them. They deserve recognition. The two biggest problem sites I have called out in the past year did not see any of their sponsors drop them. This makes me reach the conclusion that most do not care as long as they are being referred players.

 

[greedygirl]

The sites mentioned in this post is recognized in this "aussiecasinomeister" thing.

Checking links from "xxaussiecasinomeister.com" /"xxhttp://exquisitecasinos.com" gives us the same wagershares landingpage as in the thread last year:

xxhttp://www.rubyfortune.com/lp/online-pokies

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

The key line in this:

Wagershare obviously are earning a lot of money from this affiliate(s).

Is it that Wagershare is earning a lot of money from this 'affiliate' or is it that Wagershare (or whichever program or programs are behind this) are actually employing black-hatters to create hundreds of these sites, which in turn, they are making a $hitload of money off of? I mentioned this on Facebook, and I'll say it here: While I have no proof, my instincts are telling me that it is either one of these programs or an alliance of programs, together, who have moved to create these sites. Further, I have a hunch FocalClick has nothing to do with this--they were only lumped in to 'throw off the scent' so to speak.

I could be wrong, but the more we're learning, the more I'm trusting my instincts.

 

[P.V.]

Anyone with an International Trademark can put a stop to this type activity. If not, although it's unethical , it's going to be a hard nut to crack since the Internet is global.

From what I've seen this person targets Australia, so I assume they live there. Too much Aussie, pokies etc. on the net.

 

[Webzcas]

The key line in this:



Is it that Wagershare is earning a lot of money from this 'affiliate' or is it that Wagershare (or whichever program or programs are behind this) are actually employing black-hatters to create hundreds of these sites, which in turn, they are making a $hitload of money off of? I mentioned this on Facebook, and I'll say it here: While I have no proof, my instincts are telling me that it is either one of these programs or an alliance of programs, together, who have moved to create these sites. Further, I have a hunch FocalClick has nothing to do with this--they were only lumped in to 'throw off the scent' so to speak.

I could be wrong, but the more we're learning, the more I'm trusting my instincts.

Your instincts mirror mine on this Deb.

 

[chayton]

As for aussiecasinomeister.com - the affiliate has told me (via a hotmail account and what I'm assuming is a fake name) that he's not giving it up because he has put a lot of work into the website....

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Anyhow you're not asking him to give up the website, just the name. There's no logo or even any text (except a link at the bottom) that mentions the domain name on the site at all, so how is changing the domain going to affect any of the work he put into it?

 

[Webzcas]

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Obviously means a lot of work ranking for the term ' Casinomeister ' - which where I am that site ranks #2 on google.co.uk. I expect they/he/she gets a good amount of traffic for that term.

 

[incrediblestuff]

About what GreedyGirl said, i too have suspected such things going on, but it was just a feeling indeed, and i also think that this "organisation", or maybe there are several groups, are behind all those huge bulks of spammail with generic addresses, and i am also pretty sure they have found conspicuous ways, besides their phony unsubscribe links and aff links, to insert their tags to 100's if not 1000's of unsuspecting gamblers, who might sign up from a trustworthy affiliate, only to end up donating to these scumbags, i can't prove anything of it, but from what i have read on several forums and articles over the years, including the darker boards, i just feel, it must be so.

They are pissing all over us, i guess with many oblivious to the facts.
I'd love to do something, but i am clueless as to what really...

 

[zebedy]

A LOT of work? 5 pages. How many pages do you have on YOUR site Bryan? Lol I bet you don't even know, do you?

Anyhow you're not asking him to give up the website, just the name. There's no logo or even any text (except a link at the bottom) that mentions the domain name on the site at all, so how is changing the domain going to affect any of the work he put into it?

A 5 page website , wasnt the google update panda or penguin or something supposed to stop websites like this gaining top positions in the search results ?.

Would contacting them do any good, explaining that they are piggybacking on your name to con the search results.

 

[Casinomeister]

And we have another scumbag to add to the scumbag affiliate collection:

xhttp://www.onlinecasinomeister.com

As per the usual chickenshit tactic, no contact information. And this website uses content, and no banners, but refers to a bunch of other sites. So it's another crap linking scheme.

As for the webmaster of aussiecasinomeister.com - he says he's transferring it to me, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Nate]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

 

[maphesto]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

https://www.casinomeister.com/casino-awards/year-2004/

Most Innovative Webmaster Concept of 2004 Pokerrooms
"PokerAddict" the much respected online poker expert, launched a new idea in December of 2004 that will undoubtedly prove popular for both players and affiliates, dealing as it does with profitable rake information.

From InfoPowa news service: "Rake Rebate Review.com is dedicated to getting the online poker player the best rake back deal possible. By allowing affiliates to post their paybacks all in one place allows the online player to see all available offers without having to hunt all over the net.

There's a forum, a PM system, but most important unbiased information and feedback that can save players money.

This is how it works. Marketing affiliates get a certain percentage of a player's rake back every month from the poker room. Many affiliates keep 100% of this. This percent is usually in the 20-30 percent range of the money each poker room took out of pots players were dealt in.

On the new site, affiliates give the player a cut of this money they make in return for going through them. Players who go to URL Not Found / Outdated will see comprehensive tables that they can turn to their advantage at a number of poker rooms."

John Mehaffey aka Pokeraddict, is a regular contributor to Casinomeister-poker.com

EDIT: I didn't know either, I followed backlinks.

 

[Casinomeister]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

Yes, but it was a huge effort to keep updated. I guess I should have a redirect in place to our nearly non-existent poker section.

 

[Casinomeister]

Is this yours?

xxx.casinomeister-poker.com - The page is blank...

Nate

Blank no more
www.casinomeister-poker.com/

 

[ThePOGG]

Hey CM,

Did you get the support from Focal Click that you needed in shutting this down? I really like Adam over there, but I want to be sure they'll follow up on stuff like this before I shift them up.

Thanks

ThePOGG

 

[zebedy]

Another one comes up in yahoo,

xxxxxhttp://www.online-casinomeister.com

 

[Casinomeister]

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[spintee]

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Well done, lets hope they get slaped with a fine, Did you manage to find out who they was?

 

[vinylweatherman]

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Maybe you should also have a link there so that people who end up at these sites have a simple means of navigating to the genuine trademarked site.

In order for you to protect this domain from being misused again, don't you have to keep it registered and pay an annual hosting fee?

This could make protecting a trademark pretty expensive given that there must be an infinite number of possible permutations that could be registered.

A better approach might be to see if there is any way to get Google to block all results from domains containing "casinomeister" anywhere in the URL that don't belong to you. I expect other trademark holders would also be interested in a similar solution.

 

[spintee]

Maybe you should also have a link there so that people who end up at these sites have a simple means of navigating to the genuine trademarked site.

In order for you to protect this domain from being misused again, don't you have to keep it registered and pay an annual hosting fee?

This could make protecting a trademark pretty expensive given that there must be an infinite number of possible permutations that could be registered.

A better approach might be to see if there is any way to get Google to block all results from domains containing "casinomeister" anywhere in the URL that don't belong to you. I expect other trademark holders would also be interested in a similar solution.

I do not think he can have nothing to do with site( put link ect), I see that the meister face is there but is that what was already on the site hiden b4 it got took down?

Unless the provider done this out of curtsey, But My main mission is to find out who regerstard the site

 

[K2C]

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Cool! I see the domain updated date has changed to June 02, 2014.
Did you actually make them transfer it your name, not just post that note on the home page?