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Are Trademark Violations being condoned by Casino Affiliate Programs?

Discussion in 'Content Thieves and other Evil Doers' started by Casinomeister, May 10, 2014.

    May 10, 2014
  1. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Reward - for the person who correctly identifies who the webmaster is of this domain: aussiecasinomeister.com

    Normally, if someone violates my intellectual property (Casinomeister), I send an email to the affiliate programs who are being promoted there - and these affiliate programs have taken swift action against rogue affiliates - usually by closing their accounts (as per their posted affiliate terms and conditions). This cuts down on lawyers' fees, and is actually quite effective.

    Yet this time, things seem to be a bit different. I have notified the following affiliate programs - those of which that are being promoted on the offending site:
    Referback
    Fortune Affiliates
    Wagershare
    FocalClick

    The manager of each one of these programs has told me either that they would not get themselves involved - Wagershare even referred me to WIPO (!). Focalclick told me they were looking into this. So much for having a 13-15 year business relationship with each one of these programs. :rolleyes:

    But what makes me livid as hell is that each one of these affiliate programs has a term that was mutually agreed upon between the affiliate and the program:

    Where was the due diligence? Any webmaster signing up at one of these programs is required to submit his or her domains, right? Why did these slip by?

    And why isn't this term being enforced?

    You would think that an affiliate program with a 15 year business relationship with someone would enforce this term against an intellectual property thief.

    So anyway, I'm hoping that someone here will come forward and identify the person or person(s) behind aussiecasinomeister.com. Thanks!

    This should be interesting.

    Actually I posted this at Facebook - and have some pretty interesting leads. But I'm posting this here as well since we have a different audience. :D
     
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  2. May 10, 2014
  3. PaaskeDenmark

    PaaskeDenmark Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Clerk with shipping discounts worldwide
    Location:
    UnKnown
    I don't know why but have bad feeling that it will be someone who is an active member here at Casinomeister. I have found a bit but only that seems it would be England - Kent area. I have couple contacts as we;; who might be able to find more info. But I am sure Mesiter Bryan will have much more than me in no time :D :p
     
  4. May 10, 2014
  5. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Master
    Location:
    Clown Town
    Since Casinomeister is trademarked then yes these programs should be doing something. If it was not and just another generic portal I do not think you would have to much leg way.

    I only work with 2 of the 4 programs you mentioned and even the 2 I am currently working with I am watching carefully, since Elliott left Focal click they seem to be very slow at responding to issues. If Elliott was still there I have no doubt he would have sorted this for you. As for the 2 I do not work with, this does not surprise me at all.

    The link profile of that site above is well spammy as hell.

    The same person also has a few other domains:

    1. xhttp://freeaustralianslots.com/x
    2. xhttp://pokiesfinder.com/x - this one makes me laugh Registered Trademark of GamingMedia (yet they don't respect others)
    3. xhttp://australianonlineblackjack.com/x


    Have not found who owns it as yet but will keep digging :thumbsup:

    Edit: I forgot to add and I cannot remember how I linked it now but this site xhttps://freebnc.co.uk/x came up in my travels.
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2014
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  6. May 10, 2014
  7. PaaskeDenmark

    PaaskeDenmark Always think positive CAG PABnoaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Clerk with shipping discounts worldwide
    Location:
    UnKnown
    I found some as well MAttsgame.

    I found connection as well to this website which might bring us even closer :) You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
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  8. May 10, 2014
  9. pokeraddict

    pokeraddict Webmaster

    Occupation:
    Pro Poker Player
    Location:
    Las Vegas
    There is no doubt in my mind that most affiliate programs and the industry as a whole do not care about this problem. I covered two incidents last year where online gaming affiliates copied my work and that of others word for word on their news sites and presented it as their own. One went so far as to publish an article of mine in their magazine without permission or attribution. When approached privately about the situation, neither responded, so I wrote a column about them.

    One cared so little about the content theft that he sent a lawyer after me, not even bothering to remove the obviously copied content first. To the best of my knowledge, most or all of the advertisers of each site in question remained.

    I am happy to support any cause that draws attention to the problem. I feel that affiliate programs should not be supporting these sites that try to profit off the hard work of others.

    Edit: These are just two extreme examples of content thieves. I sent emails/DMCAs to a dozen or so others in the past year that quickly removed the offending content.
     
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  10. May 10, 2014
  11. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    You can order domain tools llc history report for 49$.

    That will give you registrar info history before domin privacy was bought.

    I think I have pokiesfinder in the system but I'll have to check from the office tomorrow

    Igor
     
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  12. May 10, 2014
  13. spintee

    spintee Meister Member webby mm2

    Occupation:
    gambler :)
    Location:
    Northants
    maybe this might lead you somewhere? You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  14. May 10, 2014
  15. mattsgame

    mattsgame Ueber Meister CAG webmeister

    Occupation:
    Web Master
    Location:
    Clown Town
    This is why I referred to it having spammy links. They have 100's of blog links and what appears to be a few links hacked into sites.
     
  16. May 10, 2014
  17. ThePOGG

    ThePOGG Meister Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Casino Affiliate
    Location:
    UK
    CM please keep me updated with regard to this one - I'll pull links to any program that does not take action against this site. Not acceptable behaviour at all. I'm due to have a over due conversation with focal click (they're waiting on a response from me) about taking on my Deposit Guarantee seal so I really hope that they are taking this seriously.

    Thanks

    ThePOGG
     
  18. May 10, 2014
  19. P.V.

    P.V. Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Make money!
    Location:
    Turn around...
    Looks like hacked links to me too. Here's this sites info: You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I'd be looking at the AU site's using CasinoMeister within their descriptions for their sites, I've seen a few. :thumbsup:

    Oh BTW - The about Sturan page has another domain that goes to the same page. XXhttp://XXwww.australianonlineslots.com/

    Same layout as the link CM provided.
     
  20. May 10, 2014
  21. MillyOfLeValley

    MillyOfLeValley Experienced Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Run a cafe
    Location:
    Left of the valley via the scenic route

    Thing with affiliate programs, more often than not, as long as they're making money they won't budge and will merely turn a blind eye to transgressions like this.

    On the trademark issue, there was a recent article that came out in South Africa about how Polo which has high-end stores all over the country is not associated with the US Ralph Lauren brand AT ALL.
    This company has a very similar logo and runs with the word Polo in exactly the same font as the Ralph Lauren brand.
    What transpired is that this Polo company has the LOCAL trademark in South Africa so they can use it in the country and Ralph Lauren is actually not allowed to sell any of its products in the country.
    Theres a similar story in South Africa with the American brand JCrew.
    Theres a company that owns the JCrew Local trademark and many consumers have purchased from there on the premise that it is the US Brand.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.

    I'm not sure how things work everywhere else so not sure if a local trademark can come into play in this issue.

    Its situations like these that make things sticky and down right unfair that someone is piggybacking on the strength of your trademark that you built up to what it is.
    Hope you get it resolved.
     
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  22. May 10, 2014
  23. P.V.

    P.V. Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    Make money!
    Location:
    Turn around...
    It's a thin line for sure, here's a good read on Trademarks: You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  24. May 10, 2014
  25. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Kent used to be lovely - known as the Garden Of England - but you may be right: we now have a shanty town called Tonbridge which is full of people who might do this sort of thing.
     
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  26. May 10, 2014
  27. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    WhoIS Report

    What i could dig up for you so far:

    View attachment AussieCasinoMeister-com-2014-05-10.pdf

    It's not much-but it's a start.The site isnt on our affiliate database unfortunately.

    I would suggest you start by reaching out to namesilo.com to shut the site down and to limenex for the same reason. perhaps they can (or cannot) disclose purchaser but they can definitely do something about copyright infringement.

    Igor
     
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  28. May 10, 2014
  29. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    Kent is the location of his server company: You must register/login in order to see the link. - might have nothing to do with the culprit.
     
  30. May 10, 2014
  31. premiergaming

    premiergaming Banned User - bogus PAB PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    Website design
    Location:
    england
    It seems that the Aussie Casinomeister is one of the new sites from this Affiliate. So maybe the affiliate programs do not even know about this as he or she may have just added the same trackers as on there other sites which means there affiliate managers wont know.
     
  32. May 10, 2014
  33. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    Message from homerbert:

    hello
    i can't post in this thread: http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...tml#post621773 , post it from me pls, thanks.

    i do some job, and here is easiest way to catch him :p
    1. You must register/login in order to see the link.

    owner can not be identified by no any ways.

    But i decide to analyze sites, which linked on this site, and after few checks and clicking on links, i found that he has even network of such sites, few examples:

    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    and more, more, more, almost all for same casinost, BUT:
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
    here is your chance, there is 32red / mr.green.

    Hope it helps

    Igor
     
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  34. May 10, 2014
  35. Igor82

    Igor82 Senior Member

    Location:
    Malta
    and a message from osulle :)

    Hi Igor, I have been following this thread intently as I find this whole situation quit alarming. Anyway this morning I looked up the info on whois for the aussiecasinomeister and found the same info as you. The Phoenix, AZ address listed is a UPS store so I am sure it's just a mailbox there and the phone number is a VOIP from New York. I can't post in the thread but if you could post this for me I would appreciate it. So the servers are in Kent and address is in AZ and phone number is NY. This guy is very good at covering his tracks. I hope he gets found the miserable SOB that he is.


    Thanks Igor
     
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  36. May 10, 2014
  37. Simmo!

    Simmo! Moderator Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Web Dev.
    Location:
    England
    Another brand rip-off.

    I wonder if this is linked to that thing recently where some d!ck was hacking Wordpresss sites - he copied the design of Casino Choice and this site above looks similar in style.
     
  38. May 10, 2014
  39. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    Some of those wordpress sites had hacked themes they put up to free sites or on torrent sites so anyone who downloaded and used them were prehacked.

    That casinoman site sidebar...:rolleyes:

    Are Trademark Violations being condoned by Casino Affiliate Programs?: asseen.jpg,May 10, 2014

    but there's also an email address at the bottom, so in that way it doesn't look the same as the others.
     
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