Are Slots Streamers a Threat to the UK iGaming Industry?

Dan whom was our videoslots rep here is now pragmatic, or was unless I’m mega wrong.

also the bandit met him a few times...

just saying
Last time I seen Dan he was simping on a twitch streamer who got completely free money with like 5 x wagering linneafly I think her is. And at least she admitted it from the off.
 
@Playford7

Have you seen some of the American streamers on bitcoin casinos ? Doing 25000usd bonus buys , but have 300% streamer bonuses .. it is much worse than the UK , but their content is available on YouTube.

Unfortunately the internet is run on affiliates, including this website. Nobody works for free , and generally not as a public service.

So having reps that claim the earth is flat when it is obviously not , but are still accredited ........ make your own decisions
 
Can pragmatic play verify if this is a proper winning spin on there game?

It was a proper win indeed as he replayed it through the replay facility I believe. He was also then opening bonuses that he saved, something you usually can't do when playing in demo mode.

But as long as I have a hole in my arse, this clown will not have 1 million in his bank account. There will be capped withdrawal restrictions in place if he is allowed to withdraw money at all. It basically is playing with the casinos money, aka play money.
 
It was a proper win indeed as he replayed it through the replay facility I believe. He was also then opening bonuses that he saved, something you usually can't do when playing in demo mode.

But as long as I have a hole in my arse, this clown will not have 1 million in his bank account. There will be capped withdrawal restrictions in place if he is allowed to withdraw money at all. It basically is playing with the casinos money, aka play money.
I won 623 million though! :lolup::lolup:
 
It was a proper win indeed as he replayed it through the replay facility I believe. He was also then opening bonuses that he saved, something you usually can't do when playing in demo mode.

But as long as I have a hole in my arse, this clown will not have 1 million in his bank account. There will be capped withdrawal restrictions in place if he is allowed to withdraw money at all. It basically is playing with the casinos money, aka play money.
didnt you see the rosh video of him opening a game in demo mode and he still has his "real balance"
 
Yep seen that... was talking about this particular stream though where he got to 1 million
well if i won 1 million I dont think i would bother with the rest of the stream and go take a few days off to get my head around it, wonder if he will stil be staying in his mums house?
 
It was a proper win indeed as he replayed it through the replay facility I believe. He was also then opening bonuses that he saved, something you usually can't do when playing in demo mode.

But as long as I have a hole in my arse, this clown will not have 1 million in his bank account. There will be capped withdrawal restrictions in place if he is allowed to withdraw money at all. It basically is playing with the casinos money, aka play money.
Yeah exactly.
If I were a casino I am sure I could credit someones account with a cash balance, then disallow any withdrawal.
Lets not forget this was a Pragmatic game, who aren't exactly top of the trustworthy stakes. Have a read up on Top Game if anyone doesn't know the history

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The TopGame legacy is one of the most complicated stories in the history of online gaming. One with indelible dark marks left on it by malfeasance, by all outside observations, and incompetence by the stories that came out of the inside to explain away incomprehensible "mistakes" like neglecting to put the Jackpot symbols needed to win a game on two of the slot's reels.
 
Sorry but a one million euro balance not cashed out? Curacao casino! Taking him a while to doctor the cashout screen shots and fake bank statements to prove that all was(wasn’t) cashed out and a curacao casino pays(notpays) on time and it’s a really good(notgood) casino
 
Yeah exactly.
If I were a casino I am sure I could credit someones account with a cash balance, then disallow any withdrawal.
Lets not forget this was a Pragmatic game, who aren't exactly top of the trustworthy stakes. Have a read up on Top Game if anyone doesn't know the history

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The TopGame legacy is one of the most complicated stories in the history of online gaming. One with indelible dark marks left on it by malfeasance, by all outside observations, and incompetence by the stories that came out of the inside to explain away incomprehensible "mistakes" like neglecting to put the Jackpot symbols needed to win a game on two of the slot's reels.

I watched a bit of the stream shortly after that win and I am sure I heard this clown say that a Pragmatic rep was on his stream some 20 minutes before that 500k win.

Now, if Dunover can force a billion pound spin (and I've seen such facilities on demo play before) what is to say that big wins can't be forced during real play.

Proper tin foil hat territory I know, but......
 
Sorry but a one million euro balance not cashed out? Curacao casino! Taking him a while to doctor the cashout screen shots and fake bank statements to prove that all was(wasn’t) cashed out and a curacao casino pays(notpays) on time and it’s a really good(notgood) casino
Folk struggle on here to cash out 500 quid from Curacao sometimes so he must be lucky that they pay him a million in Sky Vegas speed.

Had a look on the twitter feed as well: those folk congratulating etc must be bots surely? Either way, f'ing weird read down the comments. Looks like Scientology without the fun.
 
Folk struggle on here to cash out 500 quid from Curacao sometimes so he must be lucky that they pay him a million in Sky Vegas speed.

Had a look on the twitter feed as well: those folk congratulating etc must be bots surely? Either way, f'ing weird read down the comments. Looks like Scientology without the fun.
Average about 30.000 twitch viewers on a daily basis so 29.000 are bots surely the mans a legend in the artificial intelligence community
 
Let’s say said streamer was playing with a real account, funded by the casino. Making bets of €100 per spin, all day, every day.

Would the casino be paying a monstrous amount to the providers? I thought the likes of Blueprint, SG etc take a % per spin.


Let’s assume the said streamer is streaming
€100 per spin for 12 hours.

20 spins per minute.
1200 spins per hour.
14,400 spins for a 12 streaming day.

14,400 spins at €100 =
€1,440,000 wagered in 1 day.

Let’s assume the providers are taking 1% per spin, that means the casino is having to payout €14,400 to the providers. Surely this isn’t sustainable to the casino?

I’m only assuming that it works likes this at an online casino, anyone care to correct me if I’m wrong? Or is the % the provider receives lower?

@L&L-Jan @trancemonkey
 
My views on streamers are well known. Some, not all, are a cancer on the face of gaming. Not naming any Roshsteins of course...
 
Let’s say said streamer was playing with a real account, funded by the casino. Making bets of €100 per spin, all day, every day.

Would the casino be paying a monstrous amount to the providers? I thought the likes of Blueprint, SG etc take a % per spin.


Let’s assume the said streamer is streaming
€100 per spin for 12 hours.

20 spins per minute.
1200 spins per hour.
14,400 spins for a 12 streaming day.

14,400 spins at €100 =
€1,440,000 wagered in 1 day.

Let’s assume the providers are taking 1% per spin, that means the casino is having to payout €14,400 to the providers. Surely this isn’t sustainable to the casino?

I’m only assuming that it works likes this at an online casino, anyone care to correct me if I’m wrong? Or is the % the provider receives lower?

@L&L-Jan @trancemonkey

Hey Rob!

Game providers don’t work on a % turnover usually, it’s based on a % of losses. You’re right in thinking that the casino will have to pay a % of any money they fund the account with though, no doubt that works for them commercially.

Mark
 
Hey Rob!

Game providers don’t work on a % turnover usually, it’s based on a % of losses. You’re right in thinking that the casino will have to pay a % of any money they fund the account with though, no doubt that works for them commercially.

Mark
Do you see many player accounts with a million pound balance obviously confidentiality and all I understand but any insight would be appreciated
 
Do you see many player accounts with a million pound balance obviously confidentiality and all I understand but any insight would be appreciated

I’ve seen this twice in my career. Well, more than twice actually but only two different players.
 
I’ve seen this twice in my career. Well, more than twice actually but only two different players.
Would a casino consider suspending an account as the balance rises about 100k a day from half a million? Thanks for reply the sums are just mind boggling, don’t think I’ve ever deposited more than £500 a month and that’s just 5 spins on fruit party for our favourite ‘legit’ streamer
 
Even if that is a real balance, it would take quite awhile to cash that out - from the terms on the casino he's playing at:

"In case of big winnings or Jackpot win in any of the Jackpot video slots the maximum withdrawal of such winning may not be greater than 5.000 EUR, or the equivalent amount in your chosen currency, per week. You agree that we shall only be obliged to pay to you the maximum amount specified above."
 
He did say in an earlier vid their was withdrawal limits and it would be like an income, I highly doubt the casino is going to pay out 5 grand a week for 200 hundred weeks
Should be ok receiving this in a lump sum

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Chip, hideous, fruity are just the same..

well infact all of the rotten bunch with the exception of mark and daz as they don’t steam for a income.

said this for years, was shouted down and banned..

glad people are finally waking up to this abhorrent practice.
 
Seriously, Just caught up on this thread and have one brief thing to add.

I cannot believe that hat wearing knob jockey is still streaming AFTER he made a complete cock of himself LIVE on stream and tried to pass off his playing with mickey mouse ££££ as a casino error.

Some have no shame and obviously no intelligence.

What a "who's in front"
 
Seriously, Just caught up on this thread and have one brief thing to add.

I cannot believe that hat wearing knob jockey is still streaming AFTER he made a complete cock of himself LIVE on stream and tried to pass off his playing with mickey mouse ££££ as a casino error.

Some have no shame and obviously no intelligence.

What a "who's in front"
What’s worse is a rep at a accredited casino told us all it’s real...
 
What’s worse is a rep at a accredited casino told us all it’s real...

REAL, Seriously!

I'd be more inclined to believe in the tooth fairy and the Easter bunny FFS!

Another thing mate, If I had a million cash the LAST thing I'd be sat doing is playing online slots, they'd be a dim and distant memory for sure!
 
Let’s say said streamer was playing with a real account, funded by the casino. Making bets of €100 per spin, all day, every day.

Would the casino be paying a monstrous amount to the providers? I thought the likes of Blueprint, SG etc take a % per spin.


Let’s assume the said streamer is streaming
€100 per spin for 12 hours.

20 spins per minute.
1200 spins per hour.
14,400 spins for a 12 streaming day.

14,400 spins at €100 =
€1,440,000 wagered in 1 day.

Let’s assume the providers are taking 1% per spin, that means the casino is having to payout €14,400 to the providers. Surely this isn’t sustainable to the casino?

I’m only assuming that it works likes this at an online casino, anyone care to correct me if I’m wrong? Or is the % the provider receives lower?

@L&L-Jan @trancemonkey
On your figures, he'd be losing 57,600 a day assuming a level 96% RTP. If it was real money. Which of course it......
 
Yes @homerbert mate sadly.
Just for reference

Roshstein outed himself as fake?

Because it's fu**ing normal account.

Remember, I can see backend, I can see stats, I can see transactions. And what other people here can see?

Roshstein outed himself as fake?

Once again to everyone - he do not have any special account, and playing games any other customer playing in our casino.

Roshstein outed himself as fake?

1) Roshtein account is real play account. As any our other customer account. He do not play in practice mode, he do not use any fun chips. It's just regular account, with regular transactions (okay, huge, but still - like any other transactions). Please, continue with your 'body language' statements. Seriously, sitting here and knowing that he indeed playing with real funds - it's SO MUCH fun reading statements about body language))))

Roshstein outed himself as fake?

What exactly? That no casino can survive with such streamer? :) I think we are living example then.

That Roshtein have CAP on withdrawals and get paid % of each cashout? No, I can't confirm it, sorry. I have different records and different statistic in our backend. Yep, I see the numbers in the backend. Yep, when he requests withdrawals we are indeed paying it. Is this something unusual or something in what is really hard to believe?
Seriously, guys, what's the problem? Yep, he playing pretty much HUGE bets. Yes, he withdraws a lot. But once again, until it's profitable for us - I'm okay. If it will become not profitable - it will be the time to do something. As of now - all good (I hope so and our affiliates team are not math dumbs :D :D :D).
 
He's clearly not using funds or having full withdrawals.
Who the fuck would play 100 euro stakes at a casino that only allows 5k a week in withdrawals? So you do a first spin, get 50x stake. Thats it, you've reached your withdrawal limit. What a load of shite.
It’s the fact a accredited or so called and rep call this as real and normal mate I’ve a issue with.

clearly anyone with half a brain cell realised it’s BS years ago..

i thinking it’s a disgrace it’s been allowed, it’s not just rosh btw.. it’s the majority of the whole rotten lot.

my mate at work also is still ill, even if he was recovered he would have to self isolate again as his mother in law he lives with now has tested positive, did mean to update this on another thread but forgot, work have and are trying to sack the poor kid.

obviously I’ve had his corner, made him send all the track and trace evidence to HR etc, it’s not his fault.
 
Not causing an argument but daz does have his website on all his videos.
He’s not a low life whom lies and cheats.

Also doesn’t push his site 24/7 nor begs for likes and views like some past it hooker.

he’s not compatible nor comparable to the parasites mentioned above.

as said I’m not against all affiliation, just the low life scum is all, daz isn’t this by a massive stretch.
 
He’s not a low life whom lies and cheats.

Also doesn’t push his site 24/7 nor begs for likes and views like some past it hooker.

he’s not compatible nor comparable to the parasites mentioned above.

as said I’m not against all affiliation, just the low life scum is all, daz isn’t this by a massive stretch.
I do understand what you're against don't get me wrong, I also feel that the so-called responsible streamers out there are taking the mickey, but it can be a hard line to know whose crossing it or not. I for one don't know how Daz gets his affiliate earning either by sign-ups only or a percentage of signups losses, I'm assuming we don't really know how everyone else earns theres either.
 
I do understand what you're against don't get me wrong, I also feel that the so-called responsible streamers out there are taking the mickey, but it can be a hard line to know whose crossing it or not. I for one don't know how Daz gets his affiliate earning either by sign-ups only or a percentage of signups losses, I'm assuming we don't really know how everyone else earns theres either.
What I know is he isn’t a fraud and liar like chip, fruity, David, hideous.. to name a few

he’s also not a streamer pumping out BS daily.

so a v different beast that can’t be compared to the above cancers.
 
Supposedly our famous ‘real’ streamer has successfully cashed out 1 million euros!!!from the casino with withdrawal limits and from the banana republic,
Such a shame we are not privy to real details
There's a book that explains it all

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