Are Slots Streamers a Threat to the UK iGaming Industry?

[News Hound]

Over on our sister site Casino Gazette - Are Slot Streamers a Threat to the Online Casino Industry in the UK?

 

[Davey86]

It’s obvious unfortunately, all one has to to do is search YouTube and they have many vids of irresponsible behaviour which is just playing into the hands of the ukgc
The private player loses out in the long term as usual

 

[Playford7]

Of course they are, said this for years and a lot of the draconian measures are direct affect due to those parasites.

ive actually spoke to a few of the more ‘reputable’ streamers over the years and they agreed that the likes of chipmonkz and his odious and openly breaching of cap codes, advertising rules etc is having a negative affect on everyone.

it’s not just him don’t get me wrong, but for the U.K. he’s like our version of roshtein now with his rogue behaviour and frankly shit acting and lies upon lies upon deceit upon lies.

i also had dialogue directly with the ukgc until about June this year, they told me streaming is something they are looking at for a fact, something that will have consequences.

sadly it’s the real slot player whom will suffer due to measures imposed.

its also a shame for the decent guys like @interlog @dunover as they are far different to the likes of the low life mentioned above.

it’s only going to get worse too, Mark my words.

ben wick, kills streamers with pencils...
Fucking pencils.

 

[interlog]

In a nutshell, yes they are.

Rewind the clock back some years ago. The slot section on Twitch was, well just normal I would say. A few streamers that played slots at no more than £2 a spin, posting their affiliate links and earning a little money to fund this rather expensive hobby. I recall those days that when I streamed in the morning, I was the only one streaming in that section.

And then the greed started to kick in. It started off with CasinoRobot (long gone now) playing with casino money.

Then the Bandit came on the scene giving away money in order to attract sign ups. Others had to follow suit. That was the beginning of the end in my opinion.

Casinos then cottoned on and got in on the act. Rosthein appeared on the scene doing stupid bet size spins sponsored by unrealistic deposit match bonuses that without a shadow of a doubt have withdrawal restrictions attached to it. I know the casino rep here denied it. I am sorry, but no casino is able to financially sustain unlimited withdrawals with a ev+ deposit match system, simple as.

And so it carried on. If you didn't do bets with a minimum of £5 stake you were not going to attract viewers, so it became the norm. £5,000 session deposits are now the norm.... unsustainable for your ordinary punter.

But now the tide is slowly turning. Streaming platforms are becoming stricter and casinos are become wiser to it too. Only the other day when I was watching a German streamer, he told his audience that he no longer streams for a certain casino because they demanded 30,000 euro of deposit match money back because he was making too much money and these deposit match bonuses were only meant to be to extend stream time. He refused, so they closed his affiliate account. Not a dodgy casino either, it was a Maltese licensed casino.

There are still a handful of genuine slot streamers out there, but unfortunately the majority of them are now those that joined or are joining the bandwagon thinking it is a road to quick money. They are not gamblers, they are sales men, some of them piss poor sales men.

 

[interlog]

Really? Bet size and look at that balance...... how is that responsible gambling? Fake tw@t

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[News Hound]

Really? Bet size and look at that balance...... how is that responsible gambling? Fake tw@t

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Alas, the actions of these irresponsible streamers are going to ruin it for everyone in the UK. Just wait and watch.......

 

[shadow123]

Wonderful ammo for the anti gambling mob who might actually think what they are watching is real
and presume ordinary folks are gambling at that level.
If it were possible all streaming should be banned, a bit hard on those who try to do it responsibly but
it would be nearly impossible to produce a code of conduct that all streamers would abide by

 

[09237653]

Alas, the actions of these irresponsible streamers are going to ruin it for everyone in the UK. Just wait and watch.......

No need to wait its already happening.

 

[Playford7]

What casino is this clown playing at? Wants it @homerbert whom said it was real money?

hope it’s not at one of his casinos

 

[interlog]

What casino is this clown playing at? Wants it @homerbert whom said it was real money?

hope it’s not at one of his casinos

Think it is VegazSlots or something like that.... not accessible from the UK

 

[Scott1baird]

What casino is this clown playing at? Wants it @homerbert whom said it was real money?

hope it’s not at one of his casinos

I think it was hombert who replied to me a while ago, as long as its bringing in customers.

 

[Davey86]

He’s had more than half a million balance for over a week at a curacao casino, think someone has a withdrawal limit or they would of took half a million out by now? If they pay at all

 

[Playford7]

I think it was hombert who replied to me a while ago, as long as its bringing in customers.

Says it’s all really, oh and my granny is currently for sale too

 

[Gaz237]

Theres already a lot of talk about UK streamers moving abroad, because they cant buy features.

If the UKGC limit bet sizes, it will be a mass exodus.

 

[Playford7]

Theres already a lot of talk about UK streamers moving abroad, because they cant buy features.

If the UKGC limit bet sizes, it will be a mass exodus.

It would be majestic...

Imagine being so shit at life without gambling you can’t get a well paid job..

hope it all ends, it’s behind immoral.

 

[Gaz237]

It would be majestic...

Imagine being so shit at life without gambling you can’t get a well paid job..

hope it all ends, it’s behind immoral.

I think you missed my point.

The streamers can afford to live where ever they want to continue the flow of affiliate income.

As for not being able to get a well paid job LOL.

They already have one which would pay more than most CEO,s would take home.

All funded by just making a couple of videos per day.

 

[Playford7]

I think you missed my point.

The streamers can afford to live where ever they want to continue the flow of affiliate income.

As for not being able to get a well paid job LOL.

They already have one which would pay more than most CEO,s would take home.

All funded by just making a couple of videos per day.

Without affiliation they couldn’t...
Utter pondlife, another who’s never had a real job nor paid tax..

all funded by the loses of others

 

[Slottery]

Wonderful ammo for the anti gambling mob who might actually think what they are watching is real
and presume ordinary folks are gambling at that level.
If it were possible all streaming should be banned, a bit hard on those who try to do it responsibly but
it would be nearly impossible to produce a code of conduct that all streamers would abide by

But these same people then have to think that Batman and Superman are real and really do all these things like shown in movies. I just think that it's also quite underestimating people ability to use own brains, at least i would like to hope that most of people on this planet are not blind monkey see, monkey do type and always just do without any questions things they see in internet, majority of people are not idiots.

Of course there is huge correlation in gambling addiction and stream followers (and streamers), but which came first, how many who are not at all passioned about slots or gambling in general actually end up to watch slot streamers when you have an endless selection of different things to watch on the internet? What's the trigger that you got through everything else you see there but once you see somebody playing slots with huge bets, you think you can do it and start to make £100 spins right away? Not watching streamers at all as can't really find point what's interesting in watching slot playing, if wanna chat and be part of community, there would be many other topics than gambling, or if that gambling really is somethng you already are stuck, then it it's probably natural. Just mean that i don't have to spend many minutes in internet to find much much more sick things than some clown playing slots with unreal betsize, we would be happy place if these lovely people are worse thing in internet causing problems.

 

[Roedgaard72]

In a nutshell, yes they are.

Rewind the clock back some years ago. The slot section on Twitch was, well just normal I would say. A few streamers that played slots at no more than £2 a spin, posting their affiliate links and earning a little money to fund this rather expensive hobby. I recall those days that when I streamed in the morning, I was the only one streaming in that section.

And then the greed started to kick in. It started off with CasinoRobot (long gone now) playing with casino money.

Then the Bandit came on the scene giving away money in order to attract sign ups. Others had to follow suit. That was the beginning of the end in my opinion.

Casinos then cottoned on and got in on the act. Rosthein appeared on the scene doing stupid bet size spins sponsored by unrealistic deposit match bonuses that without a shadow of a doubt have withdrawal restrictions attached to it. I know the casino rep here denied it. I am sorry, but no casino is able to financially sustain unlimited withdrawals with a ev+ deposit match system, simple as.

And so it carried on. If you didn't do bets with a minimum of £5 stake you were not going to attract viewers, so it became the norm. £5,000 session deposits are now the norm.... unsustainable for your ordinary punter.

But now the tide is slowly turning. Streaming platforms are becoming stricter and casinos are become wiser to it too. Only the other day when I was watching a German streamer, he told his audience that he no longer streams for a certain casino because they demanded 30,000 euro of deposit match money back because he was making too much money and these deposit match bonuses were only meant to be to extend stream time. He refused, so they closed his affiliate account. Not a dodgy casino either, it was a Maltese licensed casino.

There are still a handful of genuine slot streamers out there, but unfortunately the majority of them are now those that joined or are joining the bandwagon thinking it is a road to quick money. They are not gamblers, they are sales men, some of them piss poor sales men.

I remember CasinoTwitcher back in 2015. Very experienced player and knowledgeable. Basically never played over 1€. Kim started shortly after. That was the good times.

Then came David Retardsky saying he was "one of you guys" like so many said since! Starts playing 0,6 bets ending up with 5-50€ spins! Lots of young men living in their 1 room appartment certainly able to play -EV high stakes slots all the time! Not sometimes, all the time!!

It`s magic

 

[The Viking]

He’s had more than half a million balance for over a week at a curacao casino, think someone has a withdrawal limit or they would of took half a million out by now? If they pay at all

half a million ? i just had a look at that man never could or can stand his streams this is his balance now hmmmmm

 

[Roedgaard72]

Really? Bet size and look at that balance...... how is that responsible gambling? Fake tw@t

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No need for withdrawal since you are under a mill

 

[Playford7]

@homerbert can you clarify this clown is real?

Not that it’s really relevant as the way gambling is promoted is a disgrace...from you and this divvy...

 

[Mr_Slot5]

I think you missed my point.

The streamers can afford to live where ever they want to continue the flow of affiliate income.

As for not being able to get a well paid job LOL.

They already have one which would pay more than most CEO,s would take home.

All funded by just making a couple of videos per day.

But the money will soon enough dry up and what then? Left with habitual gambling issue and need to bet astronomical?

Even 1 mil at those bet levels won't last long.

 

[Playford7]

But the money will soon enough dry up and what then? Left with habitual gambling habit and need to bet astronomical.

Even 1 mil at those bet levels won't last long.

He’s a fan boy to a particular dude.

without other people’s losses this lot of bums wouldn’t have a pot to piss in...

not to mention the harm they do to problem or potential problem gamblers.

utter scum

 

[k6kaysix]

Several months on from the UKGC updated code of conduct I note CasinoGrounds are STILL not age gating videos on YouTube, an example from this week :-

Clips of UK based streamer NickSlots, with full affiliation links in plain view along with the OMG GUYS!!! THIS IS IT! £10 stake mega wins...

Considering LeoVegas own a 51% share not a great idea for their brand to be trying to act as if the new rules don't apply to them!