AllYouBet Casino - Misleading Mailer - Related To Accredited AllSlots?

[X-Raided]

I just received yet another snail mailer from yet another unknown online casino
trying to earn my money. It was headed into the trash bin until I looked a little
deeper into the letter...

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So your telling me, that with the FREE $50 your giving me for signing up, that I
could quite possibly walk away with a jackpot without depositing a dime? No hassles
whatsoever? Oooooh yeah, SUUUUURE . This is using RTG software mind you.
They also takes sports bets.


Now, that's not the end of it. I Googled ALLYOUBET, (makes me think of a buffet) and
what I came up with was numerous stories stating that All Slot Casino (accredited in CM)
was launching it as a sister site... Hmmmm

So, does anyone have the real inside scoop about ALLYOUBET Casino?

 

[dionysus]

Well, I'm sure it isn't hassle free...and somewhere at the bottom it likely says terms and conditions apply. Even if not, the site will certainly have them.

 

[X-Raided]

Well, I'm sure it isn't hassle free...and somewhere at the bottom it likely says terms and conditions apply. Even if not, the site will certainly have them.

actually it does not state anything on the mailer, except it's 60x rollover.

On the site it states the following:
"Non-deposit bonuses: Wagering requirements for our no-deposit coupons are 60 times the bonus, unless otherwise stated. Any free money given without requiring a deposit, e.g. a No-Deposit Coupon, loyalty bonus, VIP bonus, vanity card, manager deposit, competition/tournament prizes, compensation bonus, inconvenience bonus, birthday bonus etc. (unless otherwise stated) will have a maximum cash out of 5x the bonus given e.g. $50 given; max cash out = $250 (Random Jackpots are also included). This rule is also valid when a customer's balance is positive at the time of redeeming the non-deposit bonus. After redeeming the bonus, the rule will only be annulled after the customer's balance has reached $0 again."

 

[dionysus]

so you seem to have the answers You can win the jackpot on their $50, after you roll it over, WD X5 max the amount, submit docs, then feel free to re-deposit. Or win the JP, but only to the max of $250

 

[bsilva028]

I just received yet another snail mailer from yet another unknown online casino
trying to earn my money. It was headed into the trash bin until I looked a little
deeper into the letter...

Old Attachment (Invalid)

So your telling me, that with the FREE $50 your giving me for signing up, that I
could quite possibly walk away with a jackpot without depositing a dime? No hassles
whatsoever? Oooooh yeah, SUUUUURE . This is using RTG software mind you.
They also takes sports bets.


Now, that's not the end of it. I Googled ALLYOUBET, (makes me think of a buffet) and
what I came up with was numerous stories stating that All Slot Casino (accredited in CM)
was launching it as a sister site... Hmmmm

So, does anyone have the real inside scoop about ALLYOUBET Casino?

well i found some bad news about them
check it

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[bsilva028]

but yes
i found that they are all slots related too

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I just received yet another snail mailer from yet another unknown online casino
trying to earn my money. It was headed into the trash bin until I looked a little
deeper into the letter...

Old Attachment (Invalid)

So your telling me, that with the FREE $50 your giving me for signing up, that I
could quite possibly walk away with a jackpot without depositing a dime? No hassles
whatsoever? Oooooh yeah, SUUUUURE . This is using RTG software mind you.
They also takes sports bets.


Now, that's not the end of it. I Googled ALLYOUBET, (makes me think of a buffet) and
what I came up with was numerous stories stating that All Slot Casino (accredited in CM)
was launching it as a sister site... Hmmmm

So, does anyone have the real inside scoop about ALLYOUBET Casino?

 

[bsilva028]

and there´s also a thread here at CM

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/allyoubet-is-back-same-owners.52971/

well, i dont understand

 

[X-Raided]

so you seem to have the answers You can win the jackpot on their $50, after you roll it over, WD X5 max the amount, submit docs, then feel free to re-deposit. Or win the JP, but only to the max of $250

Okay smarty pants. So you see no problem with the wording of the header?

What about ALLYOUBET's correlation with All Slots like I read on Google.
Who are they and where do they come from?

 

[dionysus]

Well, you aren't new..you know as well as anyone if you get a freeb to check the Ts and Cs first. And you CAN win the JP, you just can't cashout more than $250 of it. Anyone who's been around the gambling block more than once knows most freebs have max cashouts/jp stipulations etc. So the mailer says you can win the JP on their $50. Technically you can.

 

[Mouche12]

Well, you aren't new..you know as well as anyone if you get a freeb to check the Ts and Cs first. And you CAN win the JP, you just can't cashout more than $250 of it. Anyone who's been around the gambling block more than once knows most freebs have max cashouts/jp stipulations etc. So the mailer says you can win the JP on their $50. Technically you can.

Still misleading IMO, of course winning the JP should entail that the money is yours to keep, winning it without being able to cashout the full amount is awful, so in that sense it's definitely misleading.

 

[X-Raided]

Still misleading IMO, of course winning the JP should entail that the money is yours to keep, winning it without being able to cashout the full amount is awful, so in that sense it's definitely misleading.

Thank you for using your common sense and understanding that it's misleading.

Some people try to act "god" like and provide vague explanations attempting to belittle others. "god" like.

 

[Mouche12]

Thank you for using your common sense and understanding that it's misleading.

Some people try to act "god" like and provide vague explanations attempting to belittle others. "god" like.

That's because I am a woman, common sense is our middle name

 

[LaHutti]

Yes, it is VERY much misleading.
One of 2 things should happen:

1. You hit the jackpot, and ofcourse the full amount belongs to you, with no bullshit attached, since it's allowed to play the game.
2. It shouldn't be allowed to play the game.

Anything else is bullshit, and rogue behavior imo.

 

[chuchu59]

Is this JP game is a progressive then they are actually doing an 'Irish Luck' hoping you win the JP with the free $50 , pay you $250 and keep the remainder for themselves. These guys are real cheeky rogues. They tell you theywouldnt have paid even if you had won because you are from a rstricted country and refuse to return the deposit because you were stupid enough to not have noticed you are from a restricted country. Stay far away from them.:axeman2:

 

[rena35]

im in agreement this mail is spam so burn it

 

[KasinoKing]

On the site it states the following:
"Non-deposit bonuses: Wagering requirements for our no-deposit coupons are 60 times the bonus, unless otherwise stated. Any free money given without requiring a deposit, e.g. a No-Deposit Coupon, loyalty bonus, VIP bonus, vanity card, manager deposit, competition/tournament prizes, compensation bonus, inconvenience bonus, birthday bonus etc. (unless otherwise stated) will have a maximum cash out of 5x the bonus given e.g. $50 given; max cash out = $250 (Random Jackpots are also included). This rule is also valid when a customer's balance is positive at the time of redeeming the non-deposit bonus. After redeeming the bonus, the rule will only be annulled after the customer's balance has reached $0 again."

The slot mentioned at the top of the mailer is Jackpot Pinata's - that is NOT a Random Jackpot slot - it is a Progressive Jackpot slot.
What do the casino's rules say about winning a Progressive Jackpot on a free-chip?

KK

 

[maphesto]

This is very interesting. Allyoubet.ag does not have an affiliate program. They have gotten your address in another way. How is my question?

Allyoubet.ag have exactly the same sportsbook odds as Intertops (coincidence???) and live support is the same as Grande Vegas (swiftassistance).

I wrote this a while back:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/allyoubet-is-back-same-owners.52971/

To op:

Are you a customer at Grande Vegas? Intertops? Liberty Slots? Jackpot Capital?

 

[KasinoKing]

This is very interesting. Allyoubet.ag does not have an affiliate program. They have gotten your address in another way. How is my question?

AllYouBet was affiliated with the Brightshare program - the people behind All Slots, All Jackpots, etc...

I had a feeling it had been split out from that group sometime this year, but can't find any reference to that news now
AllYouBet was still being referred to in Brightshare newsletters in March 2012 - but it not listed as an active program on their affy site now - so I am 99% sure they have sold it on to someone else...

KK

 

[dionysus]

Thank you for using your common sense and understanding that it's misleading.

Some people try to act "god" like and provide vague explanations attempting to belittle others. "god" like.

because I don't agree with you doesn't mean you have to resort to petty personal attacks. If you don't want feedback that doesn't agree with your opinion you might as well label the thread 'please side with me'

 

[maphesto]

AllYouBet was affiliated with the Brightshare program - the people behind All Slots, All Jackpots, etc...

Yes! Allyoubet.com was closed earlier this year, they did not have the same odds as Intertops. Allyoubet.ag really have exactly the same odds as Intertops sportsbook and exactly the same live chat support as Grande Vegas.

I also think that the licence they have is at same place as Grande Vegas.

All You Bet is registered by the government of the British Virgin Islands.

Grande Vegas Casino (further referred to as 'the Casino') is operated and owned by Tigress Management Ltd., registered by the government of the British Virgin Islands.

Isn't gambling illegal there btw? Or was it? I haven't recently checked this up but they probably have their gambling license at one place and registered at another place.

 

[Tirilej]

Is it a coincidence that the wagering and cashout terms are the same for Jackpot Capital group?
60x and max cashout is 5x the bonus

 

[X-Raided]

This is very interesting. Allyoubet.ag does not have an affiliate program. They have gotten your address in another way. How is my question?

Allyoubet.ag have exactly the same sportsbook odds as Intertops (coincidence???) and live support is the same as Grande Vegas (swiftassistance).

I wrote this a while back:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/allyoubet-is-back-same-owners.52971/

To op:

Are you a customer at Grande Vegas? Intertops? Liberty Slots? Jackpot Capital?

I believe we're getting somewhere. YES! I belong to all four, based on the fact that 3 of the
mentioned are accredited. I was itching for a Vegas Tech based casino so out of desperation
after English Harbour left, I joined Liberty Slots.

 

[amatrine]

I just got this mailer too. First thought, it was Jackpot Capital related, but it does not show your coupon details like their site does. They also sent to my physical address, and I have a po box where I play.
Mail is not delivered here, but the mailman took it to the po box and I still got it, (small town) .... I have not used my physical address at any casino I have played at since I have no mail delivery here, so really really wonder how they got that address. I have only used it for fed ex checks to be delivered. ... so maybe one of the payment processors?

 

[anniemac]

Amatrine,

What address is on your driver's license? Just thought.

 

[amatrine]

PO box. Its the address I use at all casinos. Only use Physical for fed x to eb delivered or UPS. so strange.

 

[anniemac]

Amatrine,

In Texas, our address on DL has to be out 911 address, which is suppose to be our mailing address. But in my case, it's not exactly correct. If it comes addressed like my DL, I know they have had access to it. That's the reason I asked.

 

[amatrine]

Oh, no my drivers license here has my po box, as that is the only mailing address here. Makes it a Pain ITB , when trying to apply for a credit card etc, because they want the physical address with homeland security guide lines, but the post office here, that is private run, keeps us from getting regular mail delivery. We have voted 3 times in favor of it, then they start a new ballet and change it to group boxes, so people would vote against it.
Gotta love small town politics.

So no, they did not get this address from my DL anywhere. The only places that have my physical are ones that have had to send out a check to my physical address and they are accredited, but it could be the processors giving out the addresses , since many use the same ones.

 

[chuchu59]

This is very interesting. Allyoubet.ag does not have an affiliate program. They have gotten your address in another way. How is my question?

Allyoubet.ag have exactly the same sportsbook odds as Intertops (coincidence???) and live support is the same as Grande Vegas (swiftassistance).

I wrote this a while back:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/allyoubet-is-back-same-owners.52971/

To op:

Are you a customer at Grande Vegas? Intertops? Liberty Slots? Jackpot Capital?

It does seem they are linked to the JC group but if they were they should openly admit it as JC has a good reputation that can be built upon.

 

[X-Raided]

It does seem they are linked to the JC group but if they were they should openly admit it as JC has a good reputation that can be built upon.

I'm having flashbacks of when I brought out in the open that thread about Liberty Slots a couple of
months back. I really would like to know who ALLYOUBET is backed up by.

 

[amatrine]

Your rite, the same min deposit, I think it is the JPC group then. I agree, why hide it, They are a good group.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Oh, no my drivers license here has my po box, as that is the only mailing address here. Makes it a Pain ITB , when trying to apply for a credit card etc, because they want the physical address with homeland security guide lines, but the post office here, that is private run, keeps us from getting regular mail delivery. We have voted 3 times in favor of it, then they start a new ballet and change it to group boxes, so people would vote against it.
Gotta love small town politics.

So no, they did not get this address from my DL anywhere. The only places that have my physical are ones that have had to send out a check to my physical address and they are accredited, but it could be the processors giving out the addresses , since many use the same ones.

When I was young, too young to drink, smoke, vote, and bet on horses, I knew someone who was rather "nerdy". He used to get things via mail order (he was also only a kid in legal terms). He had a trick whereby he gave his name and address in a slightly different form to each company, such as changing his middle initial, or how the address was constructed (adding or dropping local estate names). He did this as a means of detecting which mail order companies sold his details to other companies. I believe he then stopped using companies that he found had sold his details on. I have heard that he now runs his own business (smart ass).

Here in the UK, the post office has a charter that requires it to deliver mail to all residential addresses, no matter how remote. There have been suggestions that this burden be removed so that the post office can compete with other companies. This could leave rural or remote locations here without a regular mail delivery, which is why such ideas have been kicked to the curb.

It seems to be a problem when giving out your address to companies for "security purposes". Companies (and casinos) use addresses to verify the customers' ID, not necessarily to deliver mail. I have seen the term "PO Box not accepted" in casinos when it comes to registering an address, even if the PO Box is where mail is delivered.

One last thought, how did the spam mail addressed to the physical address even make it given that the whole reason for using a PO Box is the fact that there is no mail delivery to the address?, did they deliver a spam mailer via courier

 

[amatrine]

Once in a while, when Jan is working in the post office , she knows my name so will put it in my box, but anyone else that is working there will send it back.

 

[anniemac]

VWM,

In the rural parts of Texas, mail delivered by mail carrier, they learn your name and will deliver your mail to you, even if the address is wrong. They know who you are by your name.

Texas makes you put your 911 address as your mailing address so that adds to more confusion. It is also the address on your driver's license.

To make matters more confusing, my 911 address is not my actual physical address. I live on a lake with lot numbers so if I tell someone my physical address, they can't find me. LOL!

 

[amatrine]

Well, I wont be depositing here, unless I know who owns them. I only trust who I trust.

 

[vinylweatherman]

VWM,

In the rural parts of Texas, mail delivered by mail carrier, they learn your name and will deliver your mail to you, even if the address is wrong. They know who you are by your name.

Texas makes you put your 911 address as your mailing address so that adds to more confusion. It is also the address on your driver's license.

To make matters more confusing, my 911 address is not my actual physical address. I live on a lake with lot numbers so if I tell someone my physical address, they can't find me. LOL!

This suggests that your address isn't of much use in terms of ID verification, or indeed getting mail to you. In the UK, the post workers have to deliver to the address stated, even if they know the name is wrong from personal experience.

Casinos seem to want your address for two things, 1) using other data to verify your ID and 2) sending you something by post. The problem is that you have an "official" address that goes on your drivers license, and would be in any databases used to verify your identity, but it isn't much good when it comes to identifying where you actually live, nor getting things posted to you.

The casinos want to know your physical address, because they belive this is the best way to verify your ID. In your case though, it is not, as it contradicts the official address used on your government issued documents. It also means that any mail does not identify which PO Box is yours, and unless the right worker sees it, will never be delivered nor find it's way into your PO Box.

There must be many places in the US that use this system, and indeed many other countries that operate shared postal hubs with PO Boxes rather than run deliveries to every property. We don't have this problem in the UK as the Royal Mail operates under a charter that requires it to provide a mail delivery to every property, even occupied lighthouses (although they don't have to deliver to these every day). The only situation where the UK runs a PO Box system is for the forces, where mail is delivered to a central location, and then taken to the relevant regiment no matter where they are stationed at the time. It also means that the location of a regiment can still receive post when on active duty in a war zone without their physical location being compromised by the need to specify it on postal items.

 

[amatrine]

Lot of small towns inm the USA have this. The post office does not want to spend money on mail delivery. Had I know this town had this issue, I would never have bought a house out here. Have not been able to get a credit card since having this address issue, it sucks. With the housing market down we are stuck here, ... getting off topic, sorry...

 

[vinylweatherman]

Lot of small towns inm the USA have this. The post office does not want to spend money on mail delivery. Had I know this town had this issue, I would never have bought a house out here. Have not been able to get a credit card since having this address issue, it sucks. With the housing market down we are stuck here, ... getting off topic, sorry...

This is just ridiculous, like the government has no idea how it's own damn country works when it comes to setting up the legislation, yet sees fit to dictate to other nations how they should be running their affairs. Do they really want rural communities isolated from taking part in the privileges of being a US citizen just because one company (the post office) considers that a regular mail delivery is not cost effective, and introduces a cheaper system.

Coud you sue the post office for depriving you of your constitutional rights to full and equal citizenship as enjoyed by those that live in the big cities and towns.

 

[amatrine]

There was a class action law suit from this town. It made the news, but nothing ever happened. We we trying to get our money back spent from driving to and and from the post office every day to pick up our mail.
Went nowhere.

 

[Tirilej]

I'm having flashbacks of when I brought out in the open that thread about Liberty Slots a couple of
months back. I really would like to know who ALLYOUBET is backed up by.

A moderator in another forum wrote that they were bought up by Intertops.
Noone questioned it so I have no idea if it's true or not, but thought I should tell anyway.
I might could ask where she got that information....

 

[amatrine]

I have never played at intertops, so no idea how they would get my address.

 

[vinylweatherman]

There was a class action law suit from this town. It made the news, but nothing ever happened. We we trying to get our money back spent from driving to and and from the post office every day to pick up our mail.
Went nowhere.

You sued for the wrong reason. The post office could simply say it is a purely business decision, and that it only has an obligation in law to make the mail available to you in the town.

You may have had better luck if you sued on the grounds of being deprived en masse of access to things such as credit, something that could be classed as part of being a citizen, and thus guaranteed by constitution.

At least it made the news, hopefully a bit of negative PR for the post office, and it could have been worse for the post office had the townsfolk employed their own PR firm to "spin" their side of the story beyond the inconvenience of having to collect mail from the post office.

 

[Tirilej]

A moderator in another forum wrote that they were bought up by Intertops.
Noone questioned it so I have no idea if it's true or not, but thought I should tell anyway.
I might could ask where she got that information....

I did ask. Wherever she got that information from they are denying it, but had admitted that they share some resources with them.
That sharing of resources seems to involve a lot of casinos.
Intertops
JackpotCapital Group
Liberty Slots
AllYouBet

Maybe we one day will find out what kind of connection they have