Adam1976 vs Bet-at.eu
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mr igor can u please start with my conversation with mr michael??? you know very well i have right
stop posting and send your side of the case.
where i need to sent and what i have to do anyone can explain to me first time happen to me casino refuse to paid me so i dont know how to do that in this casino court
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Just on both sides of it. Innocent until proven guilty. The player clearly has problems with his English.
PAB OP. I know bet-at are my favourite online casino I currently play at and havent ever had the slightest problem with them so I highly doubt the problem will be with them, but let's see.
Threat's are never the way to go about things, but I suppose if people are angry, upset or believe they have been hard done by, they may say all sort's of things.
I personally cant see bet-at simply saying "Hey I know, let's mess about with a players balance, take cash off him just for the fun of it and see how annoyed he get's".
However, as someone put in another thread "Everything comes out in the wash when a PAB is made". So OP, make that PAB, DO NOT comment any more on the matter and the outcome will be investigated and a fair result given. If the casino are in the wrong, the truth will come out, but if you are in the wrong and the threats were as bad as people are suggesting, I would expect a permanent ban from here
PAB OP. I know bet-at are my favourite online casino I currently play at and havent ever had the slightest problem with them so I highly doubt the problem will be with them, but let's see.
Threat's are never the way to go about things, but I suppose if people are angry, upset or believe they have been hard done by, they may say all sort's of things.
I personally cant see bet-at simply saying "Hey I know, let's mess about with a players balance, take cash off him just for the fun of it and see how annoyed he get's".
However, as someone put in another thread "Everything comes out in the wash when a PAB is made". So OP, make that PAB, DO NOT comment any more on the matter and the outcome will be investigated and a fair result given. If the casino are in the wrong, the truth will come out, but if you are in the wrong and the threats were as bad as people are suggesting, I would expect a permanent ban from here
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There, thats the PAB page, READ the PAB rules and enter your side of the story in the boxes provided.
1 of the rules is to not speak about the case whilst the PAB is in process.... so shhhh and don't say anymore
I see you are listening to the people here as much as you listened to me ecogra or microgaming - not at all.
Step 1: READ THIS - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/
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If you want I'll send the chats too, but i doubt that will help your case when Bryan and Max see your language to my staff. Up to you really...
Step 1: READ THIS - https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/help/pab-rules/
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If you want I'll send the chats too, but i doubt that will help your case when Bryan and Max see your language to my staff. Up to you really...
of course i want to sent the chat with me and mr michael and all the chats of cousre i never talk bad to no one and to try to make that your the perfect person
ok mr igor i said what happen there in pab and i sent it i hope u said also the truth.
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Didn't read the FAQ did you? Your PAB has errors that need correcting -- check your Private Messages because the email address you are using rejects emails from us to you -- but I'll get started anyway.
Read. The. FAQ. What part of that do you not understand?
Does anyone here speak Greek that an help the OP? There is an apparent language barrier here mixed up with his approach.
what kind of errors i recieved emails to my email from casinomeister many times but not today
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Hi Igor, i can help to pm the OP in Greek language to translate what maxd requested and explain him the situation about PAB.
*update: OP pm'ed
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Dude, read the FAQ. The questions you are asking are answered there, section 3.1.
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After a discussion i had through pm with the OP, the problem is that he submitted an e-mail address that for some reason doesn't work, and probably some mistakes on the form, as he have problems with English. I translated the whole PAB form to him and advised what he must complete.
Adam1976: Please, DO NOT post again on the topic, you're are about to submit a PAB and this not allowed. This is how things work. Complete the form correctly.
(I'll also sent this to the op translated.)
*He was using hotmail which is not acceptable for PAB.
Adam1976: Please, DO NOT post again on the topic, you're are about to submit a PAB and this not allowed. This is how things work. Complete the form correctly.
(I'll also sent this to the op translated.)
*He was using hotmail which is not acceptable for PAB.
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In case you're wondering what happened to this guy. His PAB was tossed mainly for the following:
Unfortunately, he was violating rule 1.18 numerous times - being a PITA, and so his membership of this forum has been terminated.
- the OP took a bonus, played contrary to the Terms and the original WD was stopped.
- Igor gave the OP some options, the OP took one and played it out.
- the OP then turned around and starting raising hell about the original Terms violation.
Unfortunately, he was violating rule 1.18 numerous times - being a PITA, and so his membership of this forum has been terminated.
I agree. He was a total pain the ass.
Still, this is Microgaming. How are people still able to break terms on a bonus with this software?
Microgaming developed the first true online Casino software over 15 years ago, and today its innovative and reliable software is licensed to over 400 online gaming brands worldwide.
Microgaming provides the software for the world's largest Progressive Jackpot Network, which has paid out over €375 million in total. Its software also created the world's first online slot tournament millionaire and one of the largest online jackpot wins in history, at a staggering €6.37m. As a founding member of eCOGRA and IGC, Microgaming is at the forefront of initiatives that set the highest standards in the gaming industry, notably in the areas of fair gaming, responsible operator conduct and player protection.
Yet they still can't build safety nets into this software to keep people from breaking bonus terms and create bonuses that are built around these safety nets?
In my opinion after 15 years in business this software should not allow people to break terms and conditions and if they can the term shouldn't exist. Fraudulent activity or Identity verification should be the only problems that could ever exist between a casino and a player. This software has been around more than long enough for bonus issues to be a thing of the past.
Still, this is Microgaming. How are people still able to break terms on a bonus with this software?
Microgaming developed the first true online Casino software over 15 years ago, and today its innovative and reliable software is licensed to over 400 online gaming brands worldwide.
Microgaming provides the software for the world's largest Progressive Jackpot Network, which has paid out over €375 million in total. Its software also created the world's first online slot tournament millionaire and one of the largest online jackpot wins in history, at a staggering €6.37m. As a founding member of eCOGRA and IGC, Microgaming is at the forefront of initiatives that set the highest standards in the gaming industry, notably in the areas of fair gaming, responsible operator conduct and player protection.
Yet they still can't build safety nets into this software to keep people from breaking bonus terms and create bonuses that are built around these safety nets?
In my opinion after 15 years in business this software should not allow people to break terms and conditions and if they can the term shouldn't exist. Fraudulent activity or Identity verification should be the only problems that could ever exist between a casino and a player. This software has been around more than long enough for bonus issues to be a thing of the past.
Out at the moment. Ill clarify in the morning - there IS a safety net. I built it myself and am very proud of it. There was an influence of human error in play on our side which is why the player was given options instead of dismissal of funds. player AGREED with the resolution but then after losing felt he could have his cake and eat it too. Now that the case is closed ill give out full take on the matter by tomorrow. I agree that the t&c's should not be the holy grail but the system itself and we worked damn hard to achieve that in spite of provider short-comings.
I'm not singling out any casino in particular. I've been saying this for a long time. Every time there's another issue of a player breaking the terms of a bonus. In fact I think all softwares should be moving toward unbreachable bonus terms. It just happens to be a Microgaming casino this time.
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banned user is case closed.
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I'm sure Katie91 that started the whole rigged Finsoft/Spielo G2 software scandal would disagree. But I'll give you benefit of doubt since you just registered here.
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Right on the money Skiny. None of these issues would exist, wasting everyone's time. Software development has had far greater challenges than capping/blocking infringing bets. Pure lazyness.
The casinos can only work with what they are given granted. The software providers need to pull their thumbs out of their arses.
