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A plea to WMS and Microgaming

Discussion in 'Online Casinos' started by fun4all, May 5, 2016.

    May 5, 2016
  1. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    I realise new UK regulations regarding autoplay suck for everybody but can you please put autoplay back on your slots?

    All my fave WMS games like Ruby Slippers and the Rhino have had autoplay removed :mad:. I realise you have to be compliant with the new regs but cmon, its awful having to click every spin.

    Also a lot of MG games might have been made compliant but some have simply had autoplay removed. Eagles Wings? Agent Jane Blonde? Elementals? I like these games and wish you could put the autoplay functionality on them :mad:

    PLEASE BRING THE AUTOPLAY BACK

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. May 5, 2016
  3. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    WMS Had only basic autoplay which couldn't be adapted to UKGC specifics without a massive rejig of all their software, unlike Netent and MG and the newer software like Thunderkick, Nextgen, PnG. So it was simpler to remove it altogether to be compliant. I have asked them but it won 't be for a while, if they do decide to rework their game settings.:(
     
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  5. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

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    There must be lot of autoclickers out on the net that will do the same thing? If not, I can't see that it would be very hard to code one :)
     
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  7. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    I would not recommend anyone to do that. Betfred on here once voided somebody winning a jaguar on a pontoon game - because they had used an autoclicker on a slot game months before. It is in the archives.
     
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  9. spoton

    spoton Senior Member webmeister

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    I guess you may be right. I guess the generic autoclickers may throw off some warnings if they have a common process name, or clicks the button at the same time interval everytime.

    The guy who got the boot from Betfred used a program to win as many pontoon hands as he could in a certain time to win a Jaguar car though. Not because he was to lazy to click the mouse. But I see what you mean.
     
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  11. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    He did not, if you take the time to read the thread (which is long I know) you will see the auto clicker logs and "proof" were from a slot session months before. There was no proof of auto clicker on pontoon

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52180
     
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  12. May 5, 2016
  13. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    They didn't expect to award the jag, and it was a case of they knew he used a bot on the Pontoon, but couldn't prove it, but they COULD prove the slots incident months before. If it was REALLY about the slots issue months before, they would have taken action then. They must have needed a trawler for that fishing expedition to find a reason to void the Jag win.

    However, this is an unintended consequence of the UKGC making such a stipulation without thinking of how the players would react when game developers decided they couldn't be arsed to change their systems, so simply left players with nothing at all. An autoclicker is WORSE than even the non compliant basic autoplay that has been banned, as it cannot work with any of the game variables, and if anything is even less helpful for players in terms of responsible gambling.

    The UKGC should have required games like slots to offer autoplay as specified, rather than leaving sore fingered players having to scour the internet for an alternative solution.

    What seems rather odd is that the oldest MG games had compliant autoplay by design, MG dug themselves into this hole by removing many of the old options and leaving players with a very basic autoplay that needs far more work in order to make it compliant. Agent Jane Blonde was one of these old games, and had all the bells and whistles, even the "stop on bonus" one that meant the player could come back and find the game had stopped BEFORE the free spins had been played out, rather than afterwards as in newer games. For players, this is the main point of autoplay, getting them to a bonus round that they want to play out in person, and enjoy.
     
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  14. May 5, 2016
  15. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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    I agree when you read the thread it does feel like the player used an auto clicker on the pontoon game but clearly there is no proof. It also feels like Betfred just did not want to pay out the Jaguar (notice all the attempts and excuses to use other reasons not to pay at first)

    However it is extremely telling that they did not provide the logs of the pontoon play to the independent expert (Jacobsen) for analysis, but instead gave logs of a slot session from months before. That shows there was no proof at all in the pontoon logs and they were wrong to void the win.

    If you read the thread again Jacobsen is furious he was used like a dope by Betfred and rightly so. Using slot game auto clicker play from months ago is not proof of anything to do with the Jaguar.

    Conclusion
    The only thing I take from that is never EVER EVER use an auto clicker or recommend that someone does. It is asking for trouble
     
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  16. May 5, 2016
  17. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    It's so tedious manually clicking on WMS I wholeheartedly agree! Please bring back autoplay ASAP! Also this 100 max spins on NETent is brutal too the UKGC are going a little Ott with this whole thing I see where they are coming from but why spoil it for everyone else because of a minority who can't control their spinning? These people will lose their money inevitably whether it be from football bets,betting on another casino, betting on table games etc etc...
     
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  18. May 5, 2016
  19. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    It would seem that the WMS auto play removal is actually making people spin quicker.

    Watching live streamers and youtube videos today, players are constantly stop/starting - something they would not have done before, therefore wagering more!
     
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  20. May 5, 2016
  21. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    SUSSED IT!!!

    The WMS lack of autoplay has been driving me nuts.

    Necessity is the mother of invention, and sure enough I rummaged through the missus's wardrobe and found this, combined it with my touchscreen laptop job done!!!


    A plea to WMS and Microgaming: zzztouch.jpg,May 5, 2016

    I can adjust it to play 10-20 spins per minute too!
     
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  22. May 5, 2016
  23. pinkfloyd

    pinkfloyd Experienced Member

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    A plea to WMS and Microgaming: maxb.jpg,May 5, 2016

    home made auto clicker fail

    why you stupid bird !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  24. May 6, 2016
  25. wobble33

    wobble33 Senior Member

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    V and J now no microgaming for us british players! What the hell is going on here!
     
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  27. vinylweatherman

    vinylweatherman You type well loads CAG MM

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    Redbet have now confirmed no MG for UK players, and it's nothing to do with technical issues nor this Autoplay issue. They also have no timescale for MG coming back. With other casinos also doing this, it's suggestive of a staged withdrawal of browser based MG from the UK market at least, but no assurances that this isn't also going to result in a very short notice closure of download MG for the UK player, and as we know, such things often happen with zero notice, we find one day that we can't log in, and a while later we are told that we are no longer a supported market.

    Something has prompted this, because by now MG would be properly licensed to offer it's games to the UK market because the transition arrangements are over. The only thing that might cause such an action is the changes that came into force last week, which do include the autoplay changes, but this alone does not explain the TOTAL removal of ALL MG games, nor why this is taking place AFTER the deadline rather than on or before.
     
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  29. dave1888

    dave1888 Meister Member PABnononaccred2 mm1

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    Checked Rizk and they still have the MG ones up. :thumbsup: Hopefully it's only maintenance in regards to VnJ!
     
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  31. fun4all

    fun4all Senior Member

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  33. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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    Forgive me for this and hate to put any pressure on but maybe a rep who run MGS on their casino platform in the UK could help reassure us please...

    If we lose MG slots and I have no IR, TS II and JP etc, I simply will reduce my play massively, not being the only one who will possibly take this stance, this would have a HUGE impact on the UK casino market.

    32 Red alone see a good 50% of my total monthly budget, this would be not deposited elsewhere to play Netent, WMS etc.
     
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  34. May 6, 2016
  35. Nicola

    Nicola Casino Affiliate MM mm1 webmeister

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    From my understanding speaking with the affiliate manager today, MicroGaming games have been pulled at a small number of casinos as they "fail to meet responsible gaming criteria set under UKGC guidelines"

    If correct, this is a short-time issue rather than anything permanent :thumbsup:
     
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  36. May 6, 2016
  37. dunover

    dunover Unofficial T&C's Editor Staff Member CAG PABnononaccred PABnonaccred PABinit mm3 webmeister

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    This is what I have been trying to tell ya all!!!!
    The autoplay and autoplay loss-limit settings etc. fall short. This appears to only affect the Quickfire versions.
     
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  39. Jono777

    Jono777 Meister Member CAG mm4 mm1

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