3Dice's Super Suits+ VS Super Suits Regular

[X-Raided]

I believe that there has been more than enough time for players to be able to
distinguish the differences between 3Dice's Super Suits+ versus their regular Super Suits.

I remember Enzo coming on here and stating that the "New & Improved" Super Suits+
will have more chances for the bonus rounds and more re-triggers within the bonus round.

Quiet frankly I find this the opposite. The older version of Super Suits had more potential
for re-triggers during a bonus round IMHO.

On the new Super Suits+ it's tough enough to get a bonus round, but even more
tougher for re-triggers during the bonus round. I'm still sticking to my original theory
that Super Suits+ was redesigned to be a much higher variance slot that it's predecessor.

What do you guys think?

 

[nisosbar]

One of my favorite games - very tough to hit the bonus round, but I find when I do, it does retrigger frequently, I've even gotten to the 12x multiplier games once. I didn't play that game much prior to the tweak, so I can't compare with prior experience but that must still be one of the highest variance games on 3Dice, but I can't get enough, lol.

 

[Balky]

Agreed, I preferred the old version. But I think that the FS appear more often in Super Suits +.

Cheers

B.

 

[X-Raided]

Agreed, I preferred the old version. But I think that the FS appear more often in Super Suits +.

Cheers

B.

You know what Balky? Maybe your right, the feature does come up (slightly) more often than
the previous Super Suits, but I just played in the tourney SS+ and had 7 bonus rounds with NO
re-triggers.

If memory serves me correct, most of the bonus rounds in Super Suits regular during
real play, I would receive re-triggers in bonus.

Also agreed that I highly prefer the previous untouched version of Super Suits. Thanks for your input.

 

[slotobob]

the new version does indeed trigger and retrigger more often
but all those scatters in spins block the wins so i prefer the old reasont too

 

[incrediblestuff]

I remember after a month of trying SS+, i asked enzo if he could switch me back to the old
Reason being, that in my perception, even though the feature came up more often, i got less retriggs.
This is my personal experience, but now it has been like what, a year? and i am already "over" the old one.
However, if given the choice, i'd go back to old school supersuits.
Definetely my all time favourite slot anyhow!:notworthy

 

[maxwall]

lol i never played the normal version ! so i cannot say anything about it but the supersuits + version gives me often the feature and i was 3 times at the x12 stages but never get an important win at x12 stage ! 1 time get 4 or 5 retrigger at x12 stage as I said no good winnings

my opinion is if you get initial 4 or 5 scatters is the chance to get many retriggers often ! imo get feature with 3scatters not many retriggers but 4 or 5 scatters get retrigger many many times !




excuse me my english language..................................:Read:

 

[same_old]

Haven't played Supersuits that much to make a judgment but I can say that Squirrel Pike's new version is A LOT better for the player.

You seem to get better bonus rounds and hitting 5 of a kind of something happens more often. The OLD version was terrible, I have done THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS spins and have gotten 4 squirrels about 4-5 times NEVER 5 and have only gotten the 5 of a kind about the same.

 

[Lucky Loser]

I much preferred the old version.

 

[funeral979]

I asked for my RTP to be pulled for past 30/90 days on super suits plus.

Last 90 days: 69% (aprrox. 1800 spins)
Last 30 days: 33% (approx. 700 spins)

Not a large sample, but brutal none the less.
A year or so ago (maybe more) my RTP for supersuits over the lifetime of my account was at 119% (cannot recall how many spins it was)

So its pretty safe to say that I like the older version alot better.

When the plus version came out, we were told that the free spins come more often, and with more retriggers. I find the opposite true unfortunately.

 

[Pocketdiggers77]

Super suits is like watching paint dry until you hit the bonus round. then is could be the best slot ever in my opinion. The bonus round is truly the Greatest Show on Earth. I think the Super Slots+ does give more bonus rounds and has better payouts. I remember back in 07 when I started at 3D, super suits cleaned me completly out from a $1400 balance because I didnt know how drastic the variance is. That was back when you could play $9.00 a spin though.

 

[Nifty29]

I asked for my RTP to be pulled for past 30/90 days on super suits plus.

Last 90 days: 69% (aprrox. 1800 spins)
Last 30 days: 33% (approx. 700 spins)

Not a large sample, but brutal none the less.
A year or so ago (maybe more) my RTP for supersuits over the lifetime of my account was at 119% (cannot recall how many spins it was)

So its pretty safe to say that I like the older version alot better.

When the plus version came out, we were told that the free spins come more often, and with more retriggers. I find the opposite true unfortunately.

Would you be able to post your data showing how often you get free spins and retriggers, compared to pre-supersuits+? I would be interested to see the degree of difference you are talking about here.

Enzo explained that more scatter symbols were added to the reels, and the retrigger multipliers were reduced to compensate. So, it is a fact that the scatters come up more often in the new version, which is why I'm interested in seeing your data.

Did you ask what your lifetime RTP is now for the game?

 

[funeral979]

I asked Ellen to give me my lifetime RTP of both games. She didn't know the exact date of when the game changed over, so I was looking over some old threads, and am guessing at 10/15/2010. So here you have it:

SUPER SUITS 4/30/2009 - 10/15/2010 2577 spins 120.13% RTP

SUPER SUITS PLUS 10/16/2010 - 10/20/2011 5868 spins 76.17% RTP

In order to get free spin and retrigger data, they said they would have to have the techs pull game logs. I might bug them for it later, but I am pretty confident that the discrepancy is just as large as the RTP you see above. Again, its not a big sample really...just my shitty luck with the newer version. It sure SEEMS like there are less scatter symbols though.

 

[all4greed]

Hit 12x twice this week without ever hitting it before. Think on the old version I hit 6x only once.

Still hard to get the bonus round going though...

 

[Nate]

I played the old version a while back...

Approximately $4400 start balance... (Max Bet $4.50) End Balance $0 ... Spins +- 700....

Seeing that you rarely see HUGE wins on this slot, does it really make sense to chase it. The amount of blank spins were nauseating. I can name 10 other high variance slots with better returns.

Nate

 

[Nate]

I played the old version a while back...

Approximately $4400 start balance... (Max Bet $4.50) End Balance $0 ... Spins +- 700....

Seeing that you rarely see HUGE wins on this slot, does it really make sense to chase it. The amount of blank spins were nauseating. I can name 10 other high variance slots with better returns.

Nate

Just checked... My bad... my end balance was around 1k... not 0... Over 3k lost in 700 spins playing $4.50.

Nate