3dice lol

[awesomexd]

ok i was temporarily banned from playing tournaments until sent me an email saying i have a software which speeds up things. and i have no clue what program speeds up things. I am not a computer Nerd!
I have never used 1 on any casino. when i started playing on 3dice its been always like that


this what what they send me today on my email


Our tech department has determined with accuracy that you are using software
to speed things up.

While in real money mode this is OK and entirely your choice, in tournament
mode is unfair to the other players.

I am afraid that your tournament mode is permanently disabled.

Kind regards,
Anna



I Want My Money Back!!! Lol
theres no fun in there without playing tournaments in 3dice
No Fun No Deposits i guess

 

[bsilva028]

ok i was temporarily banned from playing tournaments until sent me an email saying i have a software which speeds up things. and i have no clue what program speeds up things. I am not a computer Nerd!
I have never used 1 on any casino. when i started playing on 3dice its been always like that


this what what they send me today on my email


Our tech department has determined with accuracy that you are using software
to speed things up.

While in real money mode this is OK and entirely your choice, in tournament
mode is unfair to the other players.

I am afraid that your tournament mode is permanently disabled.

Kind regards,
Anna



I Want My Money Back!!! Lol
theres no fun in there without playing tournaments in 3dice
No Fun No Deposits i guess

example:
their tournaments, more than 90% you begin with a big balance, to see who have the highest peak balance.
with the speeds up you have time to make 4000 spins, while other players, without that only can made 2000 spins.
givving you more chances of lose faster or hit biggest wins too

 

[awesomexd]

ive tried telling them whats making my computer and their software make it go fast
what .EXE file is making it go fast i mean "NO Answer"


I even sent them HiJackthis Logs

Tech Supports are bad over there

Well anyways i have no problem now since i emailed them to close my account

 

[Nifty29]

I'm sorry to say that I am prepared to take 3Dice's word over yours any day.

I cannot see them insisting that you are using third party software and banning you without a VERY good reason.

IMO what you were doing is CHEATING and totally disrespecting other players, some of which are respected members here at CM.

I'm sure they are very sorry to see you go, given that you were obviously there just to CHEAT in their tournaments.

EDIT: I am sure you DID send them the hijack this logs.....after you temporarily removed the offending software

 

[BMWSTACK]

I am not going to takes sides at this time, I find it hard to believe that awesomexd would actually make a post saying he doesnt know what its about. I would assume that if he is really using something he would not have posted this complaint and would just let the issue go away. But at the same time I also believe that 3dice may have picked something up about his computer.

So not knowing about this type of stuff heres a question, would this be a program that specifically speeds up the casino itself or the computer in general? Could there be something on the computer that is causing this to happen?

On a side note, its seems that 3dice has experience having this happen before, but how lame is it for someone to use this type of program to win a $10 tournament!

 

[just play]

I am not going to takes sides at this time, I find it hard to believe that awesomexd would actually make a post saying he doesnt know what its about. I would assume that if he is really using something he would not have posted this complaint and would just let the issue go away. But at the same time I also believe that 3dice may have picked something up about his computer.

So not knowing about this type of stuff heres a question, would this be a program that specifically speeds up the casino itself or the computer in general? Could there be something on the computer that is causing this to happen?

On a side note, its seems that 3dice has experience having this happen before, but how lame is it for someone to use this type of program to win a $10 tournament!

You beat me to it BMW, lol...I was getting ready to bombard my questions.

To add onto your questions, how would a casino know what's installed in my computer? This makes me feel a bit icky. But of course I know literally nothing about computers.

Unless of course they can see how many spins I do per minute? Which would be my first thought.

I'm not taking sides either way...but what if the OP has a kick ass computer? (again I know nothing about computers)

 

[cpdnd31]

OK I can see both sides of the coin as well. However there are not just 10.00 tournaments. There have been some big ones in the last 2 months. So here is a way to see whats going on from our end. What was your 3 dice chat name. We can look at the previous tournaments and see if their was some sort of advantage. I mean I'm game if you are.

I also know it takes alot to get banned from 3D. So maybe there is confusion but I trust 3D judgement. Maybe Enzo can look into it and make his point.

 

[chayton]

huh....sorry this has nothing to do with the OP or 3Dice, but I was just thinking wouldn't it be nice if MG barred people who were cheating on their tourneys?
sorry for the off-topic...
[/derail]

 

[Nifty29]

I find it hard to believe that awesomexd would actually make a post saying he doesnt know what its about. I would assume that if he is really using something he would not have posted this complaint and would just let the issue go away

Actually, quite often the opposite is true. The cheater/fraudster makes such a fuss and noise and protests their innocence before the casino can get a word in on the forums, which sways opinions in their favour from the beginning and makes the casino look like they are in the wrong. Remember that markus dude who was using his own "casino lobby" which allowed him to place bets that were not allowed in the proper software? He swore black and white that he was doing nothing wrong.....until he was banned when Bryan saw the evidence from the casino which was 100% conclusive. I think, in fact, he admitted using "a program" in the end.

So, just because someone claims they are innocent, doesn't mean that they are. Some might think I am making a judgement, but so is everyone else. Even those sitting on the fence are....merely by posting an opinion that you don't know which one is telling the truth involves judging both parties as being not completely reliable.

As I said, I will take 3Dice's word over a newb any time. As always, I'm happy to be proven wrong, but in these types of cases it is very seldom indeed. I have never known 3Dice to just ban people for no reason at all. In fact, they have a proven track record of tolerance.

 

[mrmark21]

I agree with Nifty. I'm also sure 3Dice wouldn't ban a player from tournaments unless they had pretty strong evidence.

 

[awesomexd]

all i wanted to do is to remove the program thats making 3dice go fast
but they dont want to help me remove it. so they just ban me from playing tournaments
I even went to chat to ask the chat support to help me how to slow down my 3dice software
they just keep telling me go to the menu you can change it from there like normal/fast/turbo
kept telling them i tried that

even after i reboot start up 3dice 1st and logged its still the same

so thats where they stopped me from playing tournaments after i told them how to slow down my 3dice alot of times

LOL

 

[awesomexd]

huh....sorry this has nothing to do with the OP or 3Dice, but I was just thinking wouldn't it be nice if MG barred people who were cheating on their tourneys?
sorry for the off-topic...
[/derail]

I dont have any problems playing MGs,RTG and NetEnt casinos
all those casinos work fine when i play on them its not fast

 

[just play]

all i wanted to do is to remove the program thats making 3dice go fast
but they dont want to help me remove it. so they just ban me from playing tournaments
I even went to chat to ask the chat support to help me how to slow down my 3dice software
they just keep telling me go to the menu you can change it from there like normal/fast/turbo
kept telling them i tried that


even after i reboot start up 3dice 1st and logged its still the same

so thats where they stopped me from playing tournaments after i told them how to slow down my 3dice alot of times

LOL

Now I'm confused.

The bolded part...the chat person you talked to must have not known about the program they say you have, because what they said is available to every player. Anyone can play normal/fast/turbo.

Your posts are sometimes hard to understand. The last line in particular.

I saw 3Dice looked at this thread, I am curious to what they say, and hope they answer the few questions myself and BMW had.


Another thought...why wouldn't 3Dice tell you what program they say you have or help you remove this program?

 

[awesomexd]

yeah the chat support i mean anna,jared,lance and i forgot the other ones
you can click on the top left casino window and then go to setting you can set it normal/fast/turbo
i tried those and it dont work for me
mine is like Super Turbo Mode Lol


Sorry i dont usually speak English I Speak OjiCree

 

[awesomexd]

Another thought...why wouldn't 3Dice tell you what program they say you have or help you remove this program?

thats what i keep trying to tell 3dice help me remove the so called software i have in my computer

 

[dreamguardian1]

How the hell do you have a program that speeds up online gambling is my question. The casino's have propriety software run off of their engines and servers so how the hell can you do faster spins on your computer when its controlled from the point on their end, granted I know about the turbo button. I have never understood how people are able to cheat at online gambling, either intentionally or unintentionally. Granted, there are smart computer people out there but for me it would defeat the purpose of online gambling which is the fun and thrill of actually winning.

 

[dreamguardian1]

Actually, quite often the opposite is true. The cheater/fraudster makes such a fuss and noise and protests their innocence before the casino can get a word in on the forums, which sways opinions in their favour from the beginning and makes the casino look like they are in the wrong. Remember that markus dude who was using his own "casino lobby" which allowed him to place bets that were not allowed in the proper software? He swore black and white that he was doing nothing wrong.....until he was banned when Bryan saw the evidence from the casino which was 100% conclusive. I think, in fact, he admitted using "a program" in the end.

So, just because someone claims they are innocent, doesn't mean that they are. Some might think I am making a judgement, but so is everyone else. Even those sitting on the fence are....merely by posting an opinion that you don't know which one is telling the truth involves judging both parties as being not completely reliable.

As I said, I will take 3Dice's word over a newb any time. As always, I'm happy to be proven wrong, but in these types of cases it is very seldom indeed. I have never known 3Dice to just ban people for no reason at all. In fact, they have a proven track record of tolerance.

Hence is imo the problem, one black sheep cannot be protrayed as everyone. Granted there are people who abuse the system, how i have no clue as its confusing as well. Those who "ride the fence: are not passing any judgement or opinions, just waiting to see the proof in the pudding so to speak. Depends on how you look at it. I have had good experiences with 3dice although have not been able to post deposits there recently due to pasteandpay issues with everyone in the US. But i do agree on the part with Nifty that more proof is needed to support or discount it. Granted everyone makes mistakes including 3-dice. I do also agree on the no judgement of 3-dice until its determined what is actually going on by the Mods. Players do make honest mistakes and sometimes do not know they are making them, correcting them IMO is the only way to fix that.

 

[blonde]

I have seen some other players get banned from the same issue. It is sad but true that there are programs out there like this and it is totally unfair to other players imo. If you are sincere with what you stated, then I would keep contacting support about the issue.

 

[3Dice]

Hi Guys,

First off, I will have to check the details on this case, but there are a few things that are true independent of the outcome of that investigation. Typically these investigations consist out of two parts. The first part is always easy to demonstrate - people are playing games faster than is possible with just the software. Our setup has several ways to detect that (I wont go into details - the wrong people might read it) - but at the end of that part we have undeniable evidence - games have been played faster than intended - this is all that is needed to at least temporary suspend tournament rights for the player in question.

To be clear - I'm fine with people using speedup tricks or bots for fun or real play - but for obvious reasons not so for tournaments. So as soon as that is detected - we need to step in simply for the fairness of the system towards all our players.

The second part of the investigation is targeted at finding out exactly which tools or techniques are being used to generate the speedup. This is a lot more difficult, and in many cases if you're dealing with someone with a lot of computer knowledge - it may even be impossible. I'll have to look into the details of this particular case - but either way - the results of this second part are not significant in the decision to disallow tournament play.

Is it possible for someone to do this unintentionally ? Well never say never I suppose - ultimately it is impossible for us to exclude the option that for example a virus, malware, or even a buggy video or timer driver is causing similar effects. Alas, since we don't have the authority to confiscate the computer for an extensive investigation - it is the players responsibility to figure out what is causing the speedup. And intentional or not - unless the problem is resolved - tournament participation is not an option.

And of course, if I had gotten a penny for each player that claimed to know nothing even if we knew exactly what tool was being used ...

Awesomexd, if you let me know your 3Dice username, I will be happy to take a closer look at this and double-check things. I'm sure you understand that until this can be cleared out we simply can't allow tournament play - and I'm sure you wouldn't want to - knowing that you do have an unfair advantage compared to other players.


Cheers,

Enzo.

 

[KasinoKing]

I have to LOL too at 3Dice talking about fairness in tournaments.
The last one I played (and last I will ever play there) was a freebie on Tutankhamon; I was doing well in the tourney and in about 3rd place with about a minute to go to the end when I got free-spins. On top of that they re-triggered and it looked a dead cert that I would win enough to come 1st in the tourney. But the time ran out and my free-spins stopped with quite a lot still un-played. This meant my placing didn't improve.

To my way of thinking, that was totally unfair. Any bonus round (including any number of free-spins) should form part of a paid spin.
I "paid" for that last spin (which triggered the free-spins) while playing within the time limit, but I didn't get the full pay-out for it. That is not fair.

Just to make it clear, in every other way 3Dice have been totally brilliant to me; loads of free-chips, generous bonuses, very fast cash-outs, etc. and I do rate them as a first-class operation.
Just this one issue I had in a tournament is my only bitch about them.

KK

 

[skiny]

When I opened my 3Dice account I had an old nVidia video card. The longer I played these slot games the more buggy the software acted. The issue was that the slots would spin instantly. I didn't even get to see the reels move. I could "spin" those slots as fast as I could click the mouse. Each spin was literally instant. I contacted support about it and even started a thread here. The issue was video drivers and I was never able to resolve it. In the end I changed to an ATI video card and the problem went away.

When I played at 3Dice I was rebooting my computer about every 15 minutes to get another 10 minutes of normal slot speed. I often wonder if people have similar problems but keep quiet about it so they can wager much more than other people in tournament mode. I've started tournaments before the very second the tournament starts and within 5 minutes noticed that people have wagered 4 or 5 times as much as I have while I was playing turbo. I have the fastest computer of anyone I know and the fastest internet connection. It's more than possible that people have faster computers than I do but unlikely they're 5 times faster.

I suppose I could have been accused of spinning way faster than should be possible too if I hadn't been bitching about not being able to solve the problem for months before finally just buying a new video card.

 

[naththo]

I have to agreed with 3Dice conclusion.

I have to agree with 3Dice evidence unfortunately sorry to spoil your luck. You have gone way too fast in spinning in tournament and it is not allowed. If it is faster than the usual turbo speed (Turbo speed in 3Dice is you can still see the spin not instant spin in a split second) If yours is much more instant in tournament thats cheating unfortunately. It is all about the fairness in game. So you have to understand that give someone else chance to win is good thing to. If you are greedy or cheat then it is not very nice and not very polite way to do that. So please have a think about what you have done, please don't deny what you did the wrong thing. Just accept the consequence and move on. There are rules everywhere you must abide with. If you break the rules your fault, they can ban you and you cop it. Bad luck! Your lesson to learn please do not cheat ever again. Even smallest cheat is not allowed.

 

[bigjohn]

As computers and connections get faster and faster 3Dice is probably going to see more of this and could very well be disqualifying players unjustly. Simply overclocking the processor can make a huge difference.

Ultimately they may have to modify their software to make sure that all spins are rendered fully including the animation or modify the tournament parameters if they wish to continue keeping these types of tournaments fair from both the player's and their own perspective.

I know in B&M casinos when there is a slot tournament they use banks of machines set up specifically for that purpose, perhaps something along those lines may be implemented.

 

[just play]

Awesomexd, if you let me know your 3Dice username, I will be happy to take a closer look at this and double-check things. I'm sure you understand that until this can be cleared out we simply can't allow tournament play - and I'm sure you wouldn't want to - knowing that you do have an unfair advantage compared to other players.

Sorry this still doesn't make sense to me.

He said Anna sent him an email yesterday. (and posted it in his opening post) How many emails like this did she send out yesterday? I can't believe there would be more than one. It seems odd you don't know his username. Unless of course it didn't happen yesterday. Or maybe it didn't happen at all. I'm just trying to cover all possibilities. lol.

 

[naththo]

But I am totally against any overclocking because it can add more wear and tear to the system. If you leave it as normal speed default and take care of your system it'll last much longer. When I built this new machine this year it set overclock on by default so I had to force it to turn off in the bios cos I detected I could smell hot from cpu and worried me a fair bit. So you gotta be careful what you are doing with your computer. If you want faster speed, don't overclock it, just get a better one. Simple solution to you. Its a lot safer than sorry.

 

[bigjohn]

I have to agree with 3Dice evidence unfortunately sorry to spoil your luck. You have gone way too fast in spinning in tournament and it is not allowed. If it is faster than the usual turbo speed (Turbo speed in 3Dice is you can still see the spin not instant spin in a split second) If yours is much more instant in tournament thats cheating unfortunately. It is all about the fairness in game. So you have to understand that give someone else chance to win is good thing to. If you are greedy or cheat then it is not very nice and not very polite way to do that. So please have a think about what you have done, please don't deny what you did the wrong thing. Just accept the consequence and move on. There are rules everywhere you must abide with. If you break the rules your fault, they can ban you and you cop it. Bad luck! Your lesson to learn please do not cheat ever again. Even smallest cheat is not allowed.

While there is plenty of deliberate cheating going on I think calling 'Awesomexd' a cheat at this point is a little unfair. I believe it is very possible to have an advantage of this type without realizing it and I don't think I ever read in the 3Dice T&C's that more than a certain number of spins in any given time frame automatically constituted cheating or fraud. So far malice on either side has not been shown.

Overclocking can be done before you buy your computer and damage can be offset with a cooling system. If you are not a computer expert you can see an advertisement for a super fast computer and not understand fully why it is so.

 

[cpdnd31]

Last year when I bought my son his Alien-ware Computer. This thing could power a small city and has cooling system. I tried 3dice just for kicks on it. Man it was fast. That was the last time I played 3 dice on it. I didn't feel comfortable playing on it knowing other people were at a disadvantage. But hey that's just me.

 

[De Beuker]

I dont play at 3D, but the problem seems to be the same as with the MG tournaments, people with high tech machines have a huge advantage over others.

Thats because of once, in a long forgotten past, hidden in the shadows of time, someone, somewhere, invented the unwritten rule that every tournament MUST, yes, MUST have a timer counting.
A tourney cannot possibly be a tourney without a timer counting.
No matter what software, they all have it.

I've said it so many times already, especially regarding MG tourneys, but maybe Enzo gets my point:

Disable the timer.
Problems solved.
Just a set number of coins, same for everyone, and who makes the most of that wins.
Same chances for everyone, no matter how fast you play.

This also solves the problem KK had, when your timer times out with an XX amount of free spins left, which is extremely frustrating.

 

[rockycatt]

why not have a set number of spins in any given turny to be used in a set time frame ?

 

[awesomexd]

When I opened my 3Dice account I had an old nVidia video card. The longer I played these slot games the more buggy the software acted. The issue was that the slots would spin instantly. I didn't even get to see the reels move. I could "spin" those slots as fast as I could click the mouse. Each spin was literally instant. I contacted support about it and even started a thread here. The issue was video drivers and I was never able to resolve it. In the end I changed to an ATI video card and the problem went away.

When I played at 3Dice I was rebooting my computer about every 15 minutes to get another 10 minutes of normal slot speed. I often wonder if people have similar problems but keep quiet about it so they can wager much more than other people in tournament mode. I've started tournaments before the very second the tournament starts and within 5 minutes noticed that people have wagered 4 or 5 times as much as I have while I was playing turbo. I have the fastest computer of anyone I know and the fastest internet connection. It's more than possible that people have faster computers than I do but unlikely they're 5 times faster.

I suppose I could have been accused of spinning way faster than should be possible too if I hadn't been bitching about not being able to solve the problem for months before finally just buying a new video card.

thats what i keep thinking it might be my video card messing up 3dice but i dont know how to update my video card
im not a computer Genius Lol

every slots i play its really fast except on skunksville its really slow like 15-30 secs per spin

 

[Nifty29]

Sorry this still doesn't make sense to me.

He said Anna sent him an email yesterday. (and posted it in his opening post) How many emails like this did she send out yesterday? I can't believe there would be more than one. It seems odd you don't know his username. Unless of course it didn't happen yesterday. Or maybe it didn't happen at all. I'm just trying to cover all possibilities. lol.

Do you think Enzo reads every single email that is sent and received each day? Its why he has a manager......Anna. I'm sure he doesn't have the time to go on an email treasure hunt.....which is why he's asking for the details presumably.

I think you're being unreasonable here.

 

[just play]

Do you think Enzo reads every single email that is sent and received each day? Its why he has a manager......Anna. I'm sure he doesn't have the time to go on an email treasure hunt.....which is why he's asking for the details presumably.

I think you're being unreasonable here.

I think you misunderstood my post....Enzo had time to make a big post about this program, and how they detect it, but it wasn't directed at the OP. It was in general.

That's why I thought it was weird, when he could have easily looked into the email Anna sent and saw who it was before he posted. Then he could have directed it at the OP instead of in general. How many people could they possibly have banned in the last week or so for this program? Unless like I said maybe he didn't receive this email yesterday, or maybe not at all. Like I said again, I was just trying to cover all possibilities.

That's the only reason I thought it was odd. I have nothing against 3Dice mind you, when I can play there again, I will.


I was just tossing out questions and thoughts.

The OP may have this program, he may not. I have no idea, the only people who know for sure are the OP and 3Dice.

 

[awesomexd]

ive pm'ed Enzo with my user name/email i used to sign up at 3dice

 

[cpdnd31]

Good point he has been asked his 3dice name many times and still has not given info up.

 

[rockycatt]

ive pm'ed Enzo with my user name/email i used to sign up at 3dice

who are you like the song lyrics who are you who who

mabe you are lucky to go faster in real without enzo caring if you do think of the edge in blackjack

 

[skiny]

Do you think Enzo reads every single email that is sent and received each day? Its why he has a manager......Anna. I'm sure he doesn't have the time to go on an email treasure hunt.....which is why he's asking for the details presumably.

I think you're being unreasonable here.

He could have said "Hey, Anna. Who did you ban yesterday for running a software accelerator?"

 

[3Dice]

I've said it so many times already, especially regarding MG tourneys, but maybe Enzo gets my point:
Disable the timer.
Problems solved.
Just a set number of coins, same for everyone, and who makes the most of that wins.
Same chances for everyone, no matter how fast you play.

This also solves the problem KK had, when your timer times out with an XX amount of free spins left, which is extremely frustrating.

Hi De Beuker,

I'm probably just missing the point - but when does the tourney end ? When everyone's balance is 0 ?

To my way of thinking, that was totally unfair. Any bonus round (including any number of free-spins) should form part of a paid spin.
I "paid" for that last spin (which triggered the free-spins) while playing within the time limit, but I didn't get the full pay-out for it. That is not fair.

Hi KK,

There are basically three options to handle this :

1. Allow players to continue after tourney end. (we've got records of 30 minute freespin sessions on payola - so that means that 30 minutes after the tourney ended you could be told you didn't win after all.)
2. Dont count the spin that wasn't finished. (so say you're half way - don't count those wins or the original bet - which means you could drop from first place if you allready won a lot in the freespins that were in the time window).
3. Count everything up to the tourney end time, and nothing after.

All three options have drawbacks - so its a bit of a choose your pain scenario - imho, nr 3 is by far the best option - I'm open to discuss it tho - maybe I'm missing something.

awesomexd,

I'll contact you via pm - I hope we can determine what is causing this.

Cheers,

Enzo

 

[Borgie]

Hi De Beuker,

I'm probably just missing the point - but when does the tourney end ? When everyone's balance is 0 ?



If everyone has a set number of coins it ends when the coins have all been used up. With an end time of course . Can't let everyone have weeks to use up their coins !!

 

[De Beuker]

Hi De Beuker,

I'm probably just missing the point - but when does the tourney end ? When everyone's balance is 0 ?



If everyone has a set number of coins it ends when the coins have all been used up. With an end time of course . Can't let everyone have weeks to use up their coins !!

Exactly.
Ofcourse a tourney should have an endtime, sometimes people just forget they signed in and then it would never end, right?
But in case of MG, if a tourney runs for, lets say, 24 hours, there's still a timer running which gives barely enough time to work through all your coins at max. bet, and thats what makes it unfair.

Just give people more time, this also gives you the opportunity to try a different strategy, i.e. playing less lines, instead of just hammer that spinbutton at max. bet.

 

[dionysus]

Maybe just me, but I'm fine the way they are. You spin, you hope and if you lose, there's another in an hour. Everyone has the same opportunity to win, lose, or have their FS cut short.

 

[just play]

Maybe just me, but I'm fine the way they are. You spin, you hope and if you lose, there's another in an hour. Everyone has the same opportunity to win, lose, or have their FS cut short.

Nope it's not just you. Even tho I don't play there at present time, I didn't mind how the tournys were. Everyone has the same rules, I have gotten cut off while hitting free spins and the last moment, but so has everyone else. I have lost MANY times in the last minutes of the tourny (man I used to get so mad, lol) but again so has everyone else.

Like you said, there's another one in an hour. What I liked best was if there was a roulette tourny or some game I had no idea how to play, they would sometimes add in a slot tourny for people like me.

Keep the tournys the same.

 

[Jasminebed]

I agree. The tourney runs an hours (or whatever) and when it's over, it's over, and winner(s) are determined then, not after someone finishes their free spins.

FWIW, the freespins you've already played do count up until the end point.

If you play a lot of tourneys, you will run into hitting the freespins without time to finish them. I think this is preferrable to having to wait ages for final results to be determined.

 

[jackieb7]

I agree. The tourney runs an hours (or whatever) and when it's over, it's over, and winner(s) are determined then, not after someone finishes their free spins.

FWIW, the freespins you've already played do count up until the end point.

If you play a lot of tourneys, you will run into hitting the freespins without time to finish them. I think this is preferrable to having to wait ages for final results to be determined.

I also agree.. It is what makes it fun. If I lose in the last 30 seconds I say "This always happens to me" , If I win in the last 30 seconds I say "I love this when it happens to me" ! Either way it is just more exciting when that hour is finally up. ! :yahoo:

 

[KasinoKing]

Hi KK,

There are basically three options to handle this :

1. Allow players to continue after tourney end. (we've got records of 30 minute freespin sessions on payola - so that means that 30 minutes after the tourney ended you could be told you didn't win after all.)
2. Dont count the spin that wasn't finished. (so say you're half way - don't count those wins or the original bet - which means you could drop from first place if you allready won a lot in the freespins that were in the time window).
3. Count everything up to the tourney end time, and nothing after.

All three options have drawbacks - so its a bit of a choose your pain scenario - imho, nr 3 is by far the best option - I'm open to discuss it tho - maybe I'm missing something.

Well to my way of thinking option 1 is the only truly fair one.

What you could do, is have a little pop-up that all entrants see when the time is up saying "Waiting for player(s) to finish bonus rounds..."
(If you wanted to be really cleaver you could say how many players!)
Then another pop-up when everyone has finished with the final result. (Or just remove the first pop-up to reveal the final leader-board).

KK

 

[awesomexd]

why not start a balance of 1500? and end time 30 mins-1 hour time idk really. Balance doesn't increase if you win
but goes to your side win pot?

 

[just play]

Well to my way of thinking option 1 is the only truly fair one.

What you could do, is have a little pop-up that all entrants see when the time is up saying "Waiting for player(s) to finish bonus rounds..."
(If you wanted to be really cleaver you could say how many players!)
Then another pop-up when everyone has finished with the final result. (Or just remove the first pop-up to reveal the final leader-board).

KK

I don't understand your logic KK.

Everyone is playing by the same rules, there is not only truly one fair way.

The way they have it now is fair...you know why? Because everyone has the SAME rules.


P.S. Enzo any update on awesomexd program problem?

 

[skiny]

Because everyone has the SAME rules.

In the tournaments, yes.

 

[KasinoKing]

I don't understand your logic KK.
Everyone is playing by the same rules, there is not only truly one fair way.
The way they have it now is fair...you know why? Because everyone has the SAME rules.

Where did I say there should be different rules for different players?

It must be absolutely the same rules for everyone - ANY player who hits a bonus round during the tourney should be allowed to finish it.

KK

 

[just play]

ANY player who hits a bonus round during the tourney should be allowed to finish it.

KK

But why? The rules are the same for everyone, no one gets to finish their bonus round if time runs out.

I am one of the people who have had a payola bonus round last about 30 minutes ( it was real play) my husband actually went up town and did errands and came back and I still wasn't done.

So you want all the tournys to have a hold up because one or two people hit a bonus round, when they can just stop their tournys at a certain time and be done with it?

Where did I say there should be different rules for different players?

I didn't say you said that...I said everyone is playing by the same rules.


I don't really care as I said I don't play there at the moment. (hopefully again someday) Others can chime in about if they like the tournys or not, and maybe if there are enough people 3Dice will change it? I don't know.

***Maybe someone can do an anonymous poll here about it? That would be cool, then Enzo and team could see if everyone really likes how the tournys are.***

skiny.....In the tournaments, yes.

I actually laughed out loud.

 

[Tirilej]

I have just played a couple of tournaments, but are they not always at least an hour?
I believe if they were 10 minuts I could understand complaining about the time but not otherwise.

So how long are they?