3Dice - I am beyond frustration

Lets make it clear that I did not DEMAND anything. I don't believe I said that anywhere.

The focus of this thread was meant to be what I perceived as mounting mediocrity in the service given to US facing accredited casinos.

Unfortunately the 3Dice issue was the straw that broke the camels back for me, and I suppose became the focus of my post. As you can see it was not the only casino mentioned. Again, I apologize if perhaps I posted a little hastily. However I did not post any untruths.

As I suspect that some of the more overzealous members here will take their shots at me, I will refrain from posting anymore in this thread.

Babe --- PLEASE allow me to call BS where I see it:

BS

I'm sorry - what part of mentioning you had an issue at 3dice are you forgetting that is so blatantly obvious in your original post?

What part of your OWN posting are you not understanding? Is it the ENGLISH words of sarcasm, putting someone down, suggesting incompetence and blatantly saying the customer service is rotten?


Or that because they are a CasinoMeister accredited casino - that OBVIOUSLY because YOUR service wasn't met and you weren't kowtowed to as fast as you liked - that the underlying message was that they should be discredited????

You mean - you didn't mean all that you wrote???

Hmmmm....

Was it This snarky little statement?

For a casino that has won a Best Service award I find my situation a little hard to believe.

Ok now - let's BE HONEST HERE... What are you saying with just that statement for everyone to read?

You're BLATANTLY saying: "these guys are on a best service award list - and I think they suck - I disagree with it..." Oh ok - you didnt say that... But WHAT You DID say is right up there... Hmmmmmmm Am I far off the mark yet?



Then you blah blahed it - telling us OBVIOUSLY you had an issue with them before - YOU are setting up the story - so that you are sharing that _____ OBVIOUSLY______ they have "issues"......

A few months ago, I was having an issue getting my account set up and claiming the welcome bonus. Well, I was taken aback by the swiftness with which Enzo was able to help me. I got a reply from my PM in literally about 15 minutes. WOW, I said!


Oh wow ---- ok - so now we know they have "issssssuuuuuueeees" - But WAIT... Oh my.... now let's dig into the MEAT of your new PROBLEM... ahem - I mean - THEIR Problem...


Well I am having a different sort of issue now, and as it doesn't involve me making a deposit, guess what? NO SUPPORT!

Hmmmmm - seems like you really want to rub it in that WOW - unless you deposit at 3dice - you won't get customer service... Strange - considering they have an incredible community of NON-DEPOSITING Players..... Strange - but hey --- You know - IT MUST BE Because YOU weren't depositing - oh so freaking obviously.

So now....

We go to HOW LONG you've been waiting...

For almost 4 days now I have tried to reach Enzo via PM, via live chat from website, via live chat from casino interface, via email, via his personal email.....NO RESPONSE!

Oh my... 4 days... Hmmmm - well - you got no response - which, if anyone looks at Enzo's reply - it sure seems like you were in TOTAL CONTACT - you just weren't getting the RESPONSE YOU WANTED....



And wait --- NOW --- let's get really SNIPPITY - and pull the plug --- because YOU didn't get the fast and speedy resolution to YOUR problem (ahem - keep in mind folks this is NOT 3dice's fault - as you can all read in Enzo's reply and the OP's brief --- "ooopsie - didn't expect to be spotlighted and possibly have this situation ACTUALLY be brought out in the open".... now did you...

So - here you IMPLY that being accredited - that must mean they do certain things --- AND OBVIOUSLY - 3dice doesn't qualify - so based on your situation - you want everyone ELSE to think 3dice doesn't qualify.

Here --- In your own words:

I see under the accredited tab it says casino must take care of any player issue swiftly and proffesionally.


Oh - wait - you bring up not depositing again...


Well I feel I am being ignored simply because I am not trying to make a deposit.


Now - here you ascertain that YOUR situation is MORE important than ANY OTHER situation that may be going on with 3dice. Yes darling, it IS more important --- to YOU... But you must realize by now - there ARE other people - and other problems in this world - RIGHT?

I mean - we ALREADY KNOW --- that YOU think it is MOST important - so you're stalking Enzo - and counting up the times he is dealing with OTHER issues ---- ALTHOUGH ---- WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ---- that you were in contact multiple times - YOU were NOT being ignored - in fact - you were just merely waiting on documentation and other things.... Sigh...

And I know Enzo has been around as he has logged in here at least 15 times since I have tried to contact him. Unless someone else is logging in under his 3Dice name.


Yeah OK - we know your situation is unique - but is it life and death? You absolutely LIED about not having contact in 4 days... You lied about the customer service --- wait - I'm sorry - LYING is too big a word.. uhm... Let's just say you greatly stretched the truth...


Now I can appreciate the fact that my situation may be unique and it requires the managers attention, but I think that 4 days is enough time to acknowledge me?


OH wait - here you go again ---- Depositing players are ONLY given backrubs, limos, personal shoulders to cry on... and so on...

Shouldn't any player issue be handled in a timely fashion? Not just ones that involve the player sending money to the casino?

Here you are again - mentioning accredited status.... Let's just KEEP that in the back of your minds dear readers... Now the IMPLICATION that 3dice is NOT keeping up to standards.


It just seems to me that when a casino reaches accredited status that it doesn't matter anymore.


OOoh and now you're saying 3dice is SIMPLY doing the minimum required.... to keep the coveted GOD status... and can't be bothered --- cause WHY??? Cause YOU say so --- and yes dear - YOU SAID SO:

They can simply do the minimum required to keep that coveted Accredited title. They have achieved God status....why bother anymore??


And here you say that 3dice is NOT cream of the crop... Hmmmm --- AM I putting words in YOUR mouth?

Now this doesn't hold true for all of them, but maybe me being in the US my options of the CREAM OF THE CROP accredited casinos is very limited.



Now lets repeat what you just said to me:

The focus of this thread was meant to be what I perceived as mounting mediocrity in the service given to US facing accredited casinos.

BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS BS

Unless you're an absolute idiot - the whole entire parts I pointed out were specifically ABOUT 3dice Casino.

And YOU not getting your way...

And you kicking and screaming and throwing a very naughty temper tantrum - name calling - BULLYING... Manipulating....

Just so you could get 3 dice to LOOK at your situation FASTER...

Because you had contact - because YOU put all the IMPLICATIONS in there - and sorry.. I'm calling YOU on your BS.



If you don't know what the impact of your words can do - then perhaps you SHOULD NOT USE THEM...

If you don't mean them.

Perhaps you should MONITOR what you say.

Because without me pointing it out --- everyone else got the same interpretation from your original post...

Sorry - you don't have to like me - But I'm not going to let you BS me.
 
Hmmm, that's awfully convenient: 'I can kick the hornet nest but please, no hornets for me.' WTF?!? Sounds to me like you're saying "I can post any old thing I like but please don't hold it against me ... and I'll skip if I don't like the heat." In circumstances like that why should anyone listen to a thing you say? Or, am I being "overzealous"? :p



First of all, let's agree to call them something else, I don't do "PAB coverups". :D

Second, not such a great idea if you're the chump who has to implement and edit those into place. That would be me and I'm none too keen on heaping more of that kind of fiddly housekeeping stuff on my plate.

That said I agree that something needs to be done in this case. If the OP won't compose an appropriate "disclaimer" to be added to the original post I'll do it for them. As it stands it's deceptive, unnecessarily provocative and inappropriate to the actual situation at hand.

Later: on second thought, forget it. I've got better things to do than wait around for a person to post when they've said they won't be reading the thread anymore. I'll amend the original post as I see fit and I'll do so now.

ROFLMAO --- on the PAB COverup --- I didn't know what else to call that doohickey thingie majigger that you click on...

But see my post below - you might wanna yell at me for it -- consider that I've already weighed the consequences and benefits of it.

It was a last ditch effort to get the OP to actually OPEN their eyes and possibly see their actions through someone else's eyes.
 
ROFLMAO --- on the PAB COverup --- I didn't know what else to call that doohickey thingie majigger that you click on...

Yeah, me neither. vBull calls them "Custom BB Codes" which has a lovely ring to it, don't you think. I say we call it the "PAB Click-And-See". :thumbsup:

But see my post below - you might wanna yell at me for it -- ....

Who me? Not a chance. Need a stick to help make your point? Where's Buford Pusser when you need him?
 
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Yeah, me neither. vBull calls the "Custom BB Codes" which has a lovely ring to it, don't you think. I say we call it the "PAB Click-And-See". :thumbsup:



Who me? Not a chance. Need a stick to help make your point? Where's Buford Pusser when you need him?

Worketh for me...

:notworthy
 
Wow WW...that was quite the rant against the OP. While I don't agree with his original post re: 3Dice in particular (just based on personal experience)....he did mention other casinos as well. And beyond his perceived problem with 3Dice, part of his original post touched on the fact that CS "in general" is sorely lacking these days...at many places. And he's right, if some of the stuff I read on here is to be believed.

You yourself started a thread re: piss poor CS in the industry:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...s-casinos-need-better-customer-service.35840/

So while I do think that maybe his frustration was directed at the wrong target...I'm not sure you got everything out of his post he was trying to say. JMO.
 
Babe --- PLEASE allow me to call BS where I see it: ....

I think this is what the OP might have meant when he mentioned "overzealous" replies. Just guessing. :p
 
Wow WW...that was quite the rant against the OP. While I don't agree with his original post re: 3Dice in particular (just based on personal experience)....he did mention other casinos as well. And beyond his perceived problem with 3Dice, part of his original post touched on the fact that CS "in general" is sorely lacking these days...at many places. And he's right, if some of the stuff I read on here is to be believed.

You yourself started a thread re: piss poor CS in the industry:

https://www.casinomeister.com/forum...s-casinos-need-better-customer-service.35840/

So while I do think that maybe his frustration was directed at the wrong target...I'm not sure you got everything out of his post he was trying to say. JMO.

Yo Pina - no doubt - I'm with you - I saw what the poster wrote - word for word... and you KNOW I love you... But this particular situation got under my skin.

I did see the OTHER casinos mentioned - but it was as an almost "afterthought.."

But this whole post was about making 3dice look bad because 3dice made the original poster wait.

The words were VERY clearly directed at 3dice...

And you betcha - I'm right there on customer service... I believe customer service should be NUMBER ONE in any business - and I'll be the first to say - hey - not stepping up to par.. But this wasn't what the OP was doing.......

The OP was using a SMEAR campaign...

If you know ANYTHING about manipulation - these words are a classic example of someone throwing a temper tantrum saying things about a casino in the hopes that the casino will BOW DOWN to them... Sorry - but that is exactly what I am seeing.

I'm cool if it was about customer service - but really - it wasnt...

Because as Enzo states - and as the OP apologizes - THIS WAS NOT ABOUT CUSTOMER SERVICE...

And if it EVER was about customer service the OP should have stated - I'm having problems with customer service.. NOT all these implications that 3 dice is not deserving of accredited status - etc. that the OP implied.

Yeah - I wasn't trying to be nice...

I was saying: HEY --- LOOK AT WHAT YOU SAID... If that isn't what you meant - then you should change what you said - OR FIX IT...

If that isn't what the OP meant - the OP spoke when OP meant it - and now the OP wants to say they didn't mean it? - because - it might get brought out into the public...

But the OP didn't have fear of putting 3dice down.

It is ALL right there in plain view...

The OPs words...

I don't think I put ANY extra words in there - I just showed how those words looked to me.

AFTERTHOUGHT EDIT:

Also - I wasn't trying to be downright rude either - I was trying to point out ---- HOW the IMPLIED words looked to me - and how the post came across - and how --- it could possibly hurt 3dice in the future --- When a NEW GAMBLER --- comes to the forum and does a search for 3dice --- to see if it is worth playing at --- and only bothers to read that first post... You know - I know - and we ALL know - that most folks only read the first page of a discussion.. unless they're here to stay... and like reading and/or discussing things... Without the knowledge of how it turned out - that section about 3dice looks like utter reprehensible smack talk.

And someone who doesn't know the drama - the gossip - the evil ways of people who aren't getting their snotty way - are going to take that post at face value - and when google picks it up as an AUTHORITY for 3 dice - its going to look bad... So seriously - the poster needs to realize the IMPLICATIONS of their words. And if they didn't mean how it looks - then they need to change it...

Because I'm not the ONLY person who read it that way.
 
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WW i am having trouble understanding your strong reaction to funeral979's post. We don't know what his original issue was, but he apologized; maybe he was having a difficult day when he typed his comment. As someone else said, these type of comments don't really influence my decision about whether i think this casino is a good one or not. It was clear that it was a one-off situation, specific to only this poster.

Also, i think Enzo is very capable and adept at defending 3dice when issues come up regarding his casino.

For the most part, i don't believe affliates/players need to defend casinos so staunchly on these posts, where it is clear that the issue the posters are writing about is an emotional one for that player. Readers can usually see this clearly, and it is usually resolved in the end.

Pam
 
WW i am having trouble understanding your strong reaction to funeral979's post. We don't know what his original issue was, but he apologized; maybe he was having a difficult day when he typed his comment. As someone else said, these type of comments don't really influence my decision about whether i think this casino is a good one or not. It was clear that it was a one-off situation, specific to only this poster.

Also, i think Enzo is very capable and adept at defending 3dice when issues come up regarding his casino.

For the most part, i don't believe affliates/players need to defend casinos so staunchly on these posts, where it is clear that the issue the posters are writing about is an emotional one for that player. Readers can usually see this clearly, and it is usually resolved in the end.

Pam

OK - I'm an affiliate - but if you look at my site - I'm not promoting 3dice.

(not yet, anyhow)

It wasn't 3dice I was actually defending - I hope you guys realize this.

It was the SMACK TALK DOWN of ANY CASINO - because a player wasn't getting their way.

It is the IMPLIED Cutdowns - of the casino - because the customer wasn't getting what they wanted.

It was the UNDERLYING Message in the words... That a casino isn't up to perfection...

All those things would be fine and dandy --- IF --- the casino in question was GUILTY of those things.

But you know - I know --- and 90% of CasinoMeister regulars know that 3dice is generally one of the tops at customer service.

I'm not going to defend myself --- cause I believe STRONGLY in what I am saying.

THIS PARTICULAR OP was being an obnoxious brat throwing a temper tantrum because they weren't getting their way fast enough.

They were IMPLYING 3dice does not deserve their accredited status because they weren't getting perfect immediate service...

If you will notice - there is NO mention of OTHER casinos until way past the 3 dice stuff.

Sorry guys - YOU ALL KNOW how I am... I'm generally the nicest person...

Until someone really pulls my buttons out.

And this was a load of crap.

TOTAL crap.

Does this mean Funeral SUCKS As a person?

No - I did NOT say that.

I said FUNERAL used this forum to cut down 3 dice because things weren't happening to their satisfaction...

Now - keep in mind - Funeral also said they weren't depositing - it was a unique situation - and both Enzo and Funeral don't want to publicly disclose the issue...

Now --- Funeral apologizes - admits Enzo is a standup guy - NO MATTER hat they said about Enzo in the recent past oh what..... 20 minutes or so... (ok - a few posts ago...)

It got my goat...

Why?

Because look people - we - as a forum here on CM have power...

But when someone wields that power unecessarily - and cuts down some place that has been held in high regards by very many people... with EXCELLENT customer service - time and time again.... Even if people don't like the games - almost EVERYONE has said what excellent customer service they have... --- well - when someone uses that power to MANIPULATE... SCREAM and throw a temper tantrum...

Well - I kinda feel obligated to point it out to them - because in truth - when they do something stupid like that - it lowers the power this place actually has.

Funeral isn't stupid.

I'm not saying anything like that...

I'm sternly saying - TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOUR WORDS ARE IMPLYING...

It's like me talking behind your back in school... and passing on a rumor - because I'm jealous of you.. and I want everyone else to hate you....

It's petty...

And hey - I'm open to people making mistakes... I make TONS of mistakes in my life.

I'm usually also the first to apologize for my mistakes - and I try not to make them again.


I ALSO try to fix my mistakes - and I also try really HARD to make it up to whomever I have hurt or damaged by my mistakes.

I see NO remorse - I see NO OOOPS -- let me fix this...

I see a very BRIEF apology - AFTER the damage has been done.

We aren't the mass majority of people --- us forum regulars... We live here... LMAO

But there are a steady stream of people - who come in from Google - or other links...

And they are looking for info on WHERE to play.

IF they come across that post - well - lets be honest --- What do YOU think they are going to think?

Hmmm?

Seriously - what is some newbie - trying to find info on 3dice - not knowing the gambling community - not knowing all of us --- what do YOU think --- they will think of 3 dice -- after reading ONLY that post?

Its damaging - its evil and its wrong.

Sorry if I offend by my honesty - but I can't just let someone hurt US - ALL of us -- by not thinking... I don't want to lose my effectiveness when it comes to dealing with 3dice.

Do ANY of you feel like 3dice deserved that rant?

Not even the OP did after Enzo put them in their place.
 
I think it only fair to point out that I am only permitted to read 9000 words from a single poster in a given day. After that my eyes glaze over, I curl up into a ball and form a thick shell which prohibits the influx of further words. I'm sorry to say that you reached your quota somewhere around "If you will notice - ...". :)

Seriously though, your points are not amiss but the nails you are driving into my skull in order to make them are rather uncomfortable. Please use fewer words, and nails, for the rest of the day.

Thank you, he said in a melodic voice quite out of keeping with his usual character.
 
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I think it only fair to point out that I am only permitted to read 9000 words from a single poster in a given day. After that my eyes gaze over, I curl up into a ball and form a thick shell which prohibits the influx of further words. I'm sorry to say that you reached your quota somewhere around "If you will notice - ...". :)

Seriously though, your points are not amiss but the nails you are driving into my skull in order to make them are rather uncomfortable. Please use fewer words, and nails, for the rest of the day.

Thank you, he said in a melodic voice quite out of keeping with his usual character.

Dangit --- I like my nails. But I do like your skull. I hope I have driven my point home...

So I'll try and shut up now... LMAO.
 
I hope I have driven my point home...

pinhead4.jpg


Yes, I believe you have.
 
OK.

Keeping this short.

I will apologize for being so hardheaded.

I am NOT cutting down Funeral - I'm upset with the way the words were placed and the implications behind them.

I don't think Funeral is evil, bad, horrible or whatnot - I think the wording was bad.

SO Funeral - please accept my apologies for the fervor with which I write - and my heartfelt feelings on subjects.

I hope you change the wordings if anything I said made sense.

I hear you on customer service issues across the board.

WW
 
Why don't you worry about your own complaint with 3Dice, instead of popping up in my thread with your sarcasm.

The threads belong to everyone. I will take ownership of the sarcasm.


My original thoughts were that nobody knew what the problem was in the first place. Apparently its a private matter. That's fine but how can you publicly rant about a private matter?

If you're pissed off at a casino for some reason then by all means vent your frustration but you can't stand in a crowd and say this guy is an ass. I'm not telling you why. You just have to believe me.

Well, you can but until I know why I'm not going to believe you.
 
Wager Witch,

Have you ever wondered why more folks do not thank your posts? They are full of too darn many words, and too many of them are out of line or do not make sense. In more than one way, in some of them.

"If you know ANYTHING about manipulation - these words are a classic example of someone throwing a temper tantrum."

For example, this quote of yours above is pretty much what you do in far too many of your long winded posts, yet you feel it is your duty to do the same thing? Just because you are saccharine sweet and use tons of LOL's, and you change size and color in your posts, you are still doing the same thing. You are shaking your finger at people like they are five years old, IMO.

I know I am going to be told I am doing the same thing! ;)

I am not part of a "clique" here or any clubs here, shoot, I barely have any friends here. :eek: But I beg you, get help with your posting style, either from all your friends here or at GG. I do know I can NOT be the only one that feels like this, although I am speaking only for myself? I am sure I will find out! :p )
 
Easy solution - do what I have done....

and stop playing online altogether!

I have not deposited into an online casino for over a year and I haven't missed it.

I do play free chips and poker freerolls, but when it comes to giving these money-grubbing b*stards my hard-earned coin.....

FORGET IT!

I know I deserve better than what they are giving.

:p

couldnt agree more mate, I have my own fruit machine that has my money when i want to gamble now and the odd ffee chip online is no problem.

Even went to the extent of ordering a new bank card and getting someone to scratch off the CV2 for me so even if i wanted to gamble online I cant.

3dice was the final straw of online gambling. Due to their server problems previously I couldnt deposit so I deposited my gambling budget elsewhere... next thing I know my user level has gone from Bronze** to Player. Which means I cant enter any VIP tourneys.

The chat became very poor. Ignorant and very boring people.

Tourneys became very difficult to win. Nearly impossible infact. Other casinos may not offer as many tourneys but they are more generous with free chips which gives more fun than playing with "fun tourney money" to try and hit top spot to win $10 with 10x WR.

Also the slots tightened up... many people had mentioned it and I soon found that out. 1 person mentioned $200 lost n 15 mins, I played my final $10 and it was gone in 5 mins at lowest spin value.

Account is now closed there now and i did specifically say to the support staff to make sure it can never be re-opened :D
 
couldnt agree more mate, I have my own fruit machine that has my money when i want to gamble now and the odd ffee chip online is no problem.

Even went to the extent of ordering a new bank card and getting someone to scratch off the CV2 for me so even if i wanted to gamble online I cant.

3dice was the final straw of online gambling. Due to their server problems previously I couldnt deposit so I deposited my gambling budget elsewhere... next thing I know my user level has gone from Bronze** to Player. Which means I cant enter any VIP tourneys.

The chat became very poor. Ignorant and very boring people.

Tourneys became very difficult to win. Nearly impossible infact. Other casinos may not offer as many tourneys but they are more generous with free chips which gives more fun than playing with "fun tourney money" to try and hit top spot to win $10 with 10x WR.

Also the slots tightened up... many people had mentioned it and I soon found that out. 1 person mentioned $200 lost n 15 mins, I played my final $10 and it was gone in 5 mins at lowest spin value.

Account is now closed there now and i did specifically say to the support staff to make sure it can never be re-opened :D

:lolup:

LOL...whose gonna answer all my horror movie trivia videos?:p
 
Wager Witch,

Have you ever wondered why more folks do not thank your posts? They are full of too darn many words, and too many of them are out of line or do not make sense. In more than one way, in some of them.

"If you know ANYTHING about manipulation - these words are a classic example of someone throwing a temper tantrum."

For example, this quote of yours above is pretty much what you do in far too many of your long winded posts, yet you feel it is your duty to do the same thing? Just because you are saccharine sweet and use tons of LOL's, and you change size and color in your posts, you are still doing the same thing. You are shaking your finger at people like they are five years old, IMO.

I know I am going to be told I am doing the same thing! ;)

I am not part of a "clique" here or any clubs here, shoot, I barely have any friends here. :eek: But I beg you, get help with your posting style, either from all your friends here or at GG. I do know I can NOT be the only one that feels like this, although I am speaking only for myself? I am sure I will find out! :p )

OK - I just woke up - and came here to see this?

I don't care if you don't like me OR my posting style - and the rest of your post is just plain nasty - so I'm not going to care about that either.

Bottom lines - the words directed at the casino in the OP were manipulative.

My words were pointing that out.

If you don't like me - or what I have to say - what skin is that off my back?

Am I manipulative? No.

Am I wordy and opinionated??? HELL- YES!!!!

Oh well - that's me.. and if you don't like it - don't read it. I'm not out to hurt Casinomeister or any of the casinos and I support the player's rights. If you don't think that the "ORIGINAL POST" damaged ANY of those things.... Well... maybe you aren't reading the content - and instead just took this fine moment to attack me personally because somewhere along the lines I pissed you off.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion - but I apologize when I'm rude, and laugh when I'm having fun - other than that - I'm me - and if ya don't like me - What's a gal supposed to do?

Are you pissed because I said Funeral chose the wrong words - and wielded them inappropriately - and is NORMALLY a stand up guy?

Let's get a repeat at social convention - we are all here - and we are all ADULTS.

If I say or do something wrong - I stand up - step back and APOLOGIZE the crap out of it - and try to fix it.

I am - and probably ALWAYS will be wordy - you're not going to change that - so skip reading my posts.

Funeral and I've already worked it out... So your issues are NOT my problem.
 
Absolutely Clueless!!! :lolup:

No. YOU are absolutely being rude.

You're playing a snotty game.

You want to take it off the board - between us? Where no one will see the little high five posts you're making?

You don't like me... don't read my posts.
THAT is THAT simple.
 
Also - I am headed to work - so I won't be able to respond - but will check my PMs if you have one for me when I get back.

Or --- whatever..... :eyeroll:
 
Funeral...

Babe --- PLEASE allow me to call BS where I see it: ...

OK. Keeping this short. ...

OK - I just woke up - and came here to see this?...

No. YOU are absolutely being rude....

Also - I am headed to work ...

Blah, Blah, Blah.....

15 posts in this thread so far, really?

Is your opinion really that important?
 
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