3Dice and CC withdrawal

Laurie, I have been following this thread and I don't understand something. You have charges coming on your Netspend card that you didn't make? If that's the case, then somebody besides Netspend is making those charges. So, I would be cornering Enzo about it. Also, I have my weekly check deposited to my Netspend card and it is always there 24 hours ahead of when it is suppose to be because Netspend posts deposits immediately as well as charges. Some charges will show up as pending and some go thru immediately. And I'm not talking about just casino charges. Gas will show up as pending, Walmart comes out immediately.

I think that something is out of whack on 3Dice's end. Or maybe I don't understand the problem.

I can only hope that all works out OK. But trust me, I feel your pain. You are a better person than me 'cause by now, I would be Enzo's/Netspend's worst nightmare. LOL!!
 
ok think its worked out now

called netspend for the last time i hope and this is what i was told and imo to be the truth(holding my breath), i guess if you want something done you just have to do it and keep after it yourself....3- dice did not double charge as stated by the last sup. i talked too, they knew that 3- dice was a gaming site, so hence the 7 day waiting period and not being able to cancel it, had it been a charge from joe blows gas station it would have been taken off right then, they did say they do this for the protection of the card holder so that they(any online casino) will not come back and double dip as some have done in the past. they also have rejected the 1k payment 3- dice did indeed send, so now it is up to 3- dice to collect that, i have asked that enzo mail me the money by check or even tie it to a pidgeons(sp) butt, dont really care how it gets here as long as i have it in a timely manner, worst case, he could say "well laurie we will have to wait till they send it back to us and that could take some time"(worst case). i need to express to everyone my sorrys for comming on here and whinning like a baby but at the time i didnt know what was going on and if i was being screwed over or not.i have asked that enzo come on here to put in his 2 cents about netspend and the c.c withdrawal issue, i as many i think would like to hear his thoughts on this matter!! again it was not a 3- dice problem just the usuall its getting harder for the american player to have decent options,depositing and withdrawing........... laurie:)a.k.a perry mason p.i:D
 
Well, Laurie, I apologize because, guess what, I looked at my Netspend account just now and you know what I found, I double dip from Club World. One is sitting in pending and one is already charged. It's that dzag stuff that shows up when you deposit there. If this doesn't clear up by tomorrow, I'm on fire too. The deposits I make to Rivals go thru just fine, or I am saying that now but who knows. Looks like I might be re-evaluating my depositing method. Or just not at all. What a mess!!!
 
Well, Laurie, I apologize because, guess what, I looked at my Netspend account just now and you know what I found, I double dip from Club World. One is sitting in pending and one is already charged. It's that dzag stuff that shows up when you deposit there. If this doesn't clear up by tomorrow, I'm on fire too. The deposits I make to Rivals go thru just fine, or I am saying that now but who knows. Looks like I might be re-evaluating my depositing method. Or just not at all. What a mess!!!
......im so sorry as i know what your going thru, i just hope that when you call them , they know it not to be a gaming site or it will take 7 days for the pendings to come off and if i remember right if its over 100.00 its longer maybe 30 days, my last pends come off at midnight tomorrow but most at midnight tonight.net spend always worked so well for me in the past, ill give it another chance but if it does this again, im like you may have to look for a better route or either start playing in fun mode or one of those 10.00 n/d tournys at 3- dice...................laurie
 
Sorry AnnieMac, i cant believe they didnt make any changes since my big todo the last time CW double dipped me. I still have my account uninstalled since that day.


Laurie: Im glad you finally found out what happened, I guess my instincts were right. It is really getting rough and its not fair. If netspend will let you make a deposit it should take one too?

Wanna know whats really ironic about this whole US banned thing. Remember when I put up that G.A. quiz in the attic from the Today Show last week? The funny thing is how the Today show talked about the rise of online gambling and how it effects addicts and made NO MENTION or said "BTW" online gambling is illegal in the USA now in most states AND They even went as far to say "its so easy these days to just use your credit card and make a deposit" Not one person on the Today Show said that it was illegal, they just sat there and nodded their heads then we have this crap going on behind closed doors? They know damn welll ppl are depositing with CC's and openly too.
 
Sorry AnnieMac, i cant believe they didnt make any changes since my big todo the last time CW double dipped me. I still have my account uninstalled since that day.


Laurie: Im glad you finally found out what happened, I guess my instincts were right. It is really getting rough and its not fair. If netspend will let you make a deposit it should take one too?

Wanna know whats really ironic about this whole US banned thing. Remember when I put up that G.A. quiz in the attic from the Today Show last week? The funny thing is how the Today show talked about the rise of online gambling and how it effects addicts and made NO MENTION or said "BTW" online gambling is illegal in the USA now in most states AND They even went as far to say "its so easy these days to just use your credit card and make a deposit" Not one person on the Today Show said that it was illegal, they just sat there and nodded their heads then we have this crap going on behind closed doors? They know damn welll ppl are depositing with CC's and openly too.
i think the club world thing with annie is related to the netspend card as they (netspend) tried to tell me they(clubworld) had also did it and then came back and said no that pend came off, its just the 3- dices that are pending...........its my gut feeling that its all to do with netspend and as the lady said if its a online casino, they" may" have a 7 day pend put on it if under 100.00 and i love what she said" its to protect the card holder". as far as it being legal or illegal , netspend did tell me that its fine to use the card at online casinos ,so to me they are saying use the card but be prepard for a poss. pend to your acct if its deemed to be a gambling site, i have had a different answer each time i have talked to someone but the last one tonight made the most sense ...........laurie:)
 
i think the club world thing with annie is related to the netspend card as they (netspend) tried to tell me they(clubworld) had also did it and then came back and said no that pend came off, its just the 3- dices that are pending...........its my gut feeling that its all to do with netspend and as the lady said if its a online casino, they" may" have a 7 day pend put on it if under 100.00 and i love what she said" its to protect the card holder". as far as it being legal or illegal , netspend did tell me that its fine to use the card at online casinos ,so to me they are saying use the card but be prepard for a poss. pend to your acct if its deemed to be a gambling site, i have had a different answer each time i have talked to someone but the last one tonight made the most sense ...........laurie:)

Now I am confused, I thought they rejected the 1K because it was gambling related and now they are telling you in the bolded text above that it is now Ok ???? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
 
Now I am confused, I thought they rejected the 1K because it was gambling related and now they are telling you in the bolded text above that it is now Ok ???? :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
to deposit with yes but not to recieve withdrawals, i know i dont know what to think also:eek: from now on i will deposit with netspend, withdraw with my q.t or check until i find something better....
 
to deposit with yes but not to recieve withdrawals, i know i dont know what to think also:eek: from now on i will deposit with netspend, withdraw with my q.t or check until i find something better....

Good gawd,, that doesn't even make any good sense...but I guess that's Netspend for you !!!
 
Good gawd,, that doesn't even make any good sense...but I guess that's Netspend for you !!!
im tired of all the calls to them, maybe annie will call them a few times and we can see what they tell her, like i said each time a different story told to me and it just doesnt add up, all of a sudden peeps accts are in the neg, now we think we know why or do we really know all the facts yet, who knows, but i can say that they did say 3- dice did not double charge, those were pends and pends only.................laurie
 
Trust me Laurie, I will be calling Netspend. The funny thing is that I have another deposit to Club World that was made after the one that they have doubled and it is fine. Does this make any sense at all? I swear that this is the first time anything like this has come up. Glad I hadn't played much this week or I would be in a bind.
 
i went through the same thing with netspend at 3dice for a while too. it looks like a double charge, but one will always drop off in 30 days. i can assure you it had nothing to do with 3dice as bob worked his butt off trying to resolve the issue. contacting netspend did little good as they stated the 30 day "hold" cannot be reversed and it was like pulling teeth to get any kind of rational answer. how a prepaid card ends up with a negative balance defeats the purpose of a prepaid card and the netspend reps had a heck of a time trying to explain to me how they extended unrequested credit to me on a prepaid card. i have not experienced this problem for a while now so i thought it was a resolved matter.

in summary, i think it's definitely at netspend's end and not 3dice, but don't worry about the charges as they will drop off and 3dice will try to make up for the inconvenience (in my experience.) however, i don't know how clubworld will deal with this situation but i hope they handle it efficiently on par with their good reputation this time.
 
my ? is how does all these
-51 -71 752 ((example)
do to say a credit report
does it reflect back on them

I know that like in Babs case
using her debit card had to hurt her
in some way with her bank an
with future creditors

and for ya'll's sake i hope not

tempers can flare when money
is lost or misplaced we all need to
count to 10 an then think before
we post I really hope all goes well

Cindy
 
Hi Guys,

First off, just to make this clear, I chose not to respond in this thread until the issue was resolved. We spoke daily with Laurie on chat, I called her over the issue, and we've had numerous lengthy calls with incapable netspend staff in an effort to get this straightened out. All I could've added to this thread was that yes indeed we sent out the withdrawal the day Laurie requested it and no we never doubled any charges.

There's two separate issues in this case. The issue of the double-charge is the oldest netspend issue. It has happened several times before, and with several processors on our end (we switched processors in an effort to avoid it to happen again!). We have gone through a lot of effort and hours of futile communication trying to help netspend resolve this issue. At one point in time we actually allocated engineers to it just to be able to give netspend a technical pointer on where to look. (It's not really a double charge, its a pending hold on top of an accepted capture. Netspend is either accepting a capture without clearing the matching hold - or accepting a hold without funds on the card.). To make matters worse, they are charging the customers for this (a debit card that goes negative ?? funds taken off on recharge ??), AND they've clearly instructed their helpdesk to put the blame at the vendor.

Their behavior is not just unprofessional, it seems impossible to get anyone on support that can even see what's going on. ("its a double charge" - insist it is not - "oh yes its a hold, the vendor's fault" - insist it is not - "indeed, our bad it will drop off in 7 days" - insist you wont accept that, and they'll connect you to someone else for the exact same scenario to repeat..). There is basically nothing the vendor can do to resolve this issue, we've sent emails, faxes, made calls and all to no avail. Customers that do manage to get the holds removed tell us it is because of their persistence and in some cases aggression towards the Netspend helpdesk.

The withdrawal issue is a new one for us. Laurie's withdrawal left the 3Dice offices the day she requested it, and our processors office the day after. (the request was made around midnight - else it would've been the same day.) That is the point in time where the (electronical) funds leave our accounts and arrive at netspend. The three-to-five (now seven-to-10) is the number that was given us by netspend themselves as on how long it would take them to process the CFT transaction. (Withdrawals at 3Dice don't take any time. Checks take time at the postal services and VISA withdraws take time at the issuing bank.). From that point on, netspend has not just held the funds for an exuberant 11 days, they topped it of by denying the existence of the transaction, once again blaming the vendor for a mistake they made. Obviously we will accommodate Laurie's withdrawal ASAP.

Having said all that, many hundreds of netspend transactions, both deposit and withdrawal are processed daily at 3Dice, and we see relatively few problems. But when things do go haywire, expect netspend to charge you, deliver substandard support and blame the vendor. I strongly feel that a company like netspend can only exist because of the current US legislative situation, and I'm starting to see similarities with the prohibition. (Netspend - the moonshine cc). Lets hope another issuer sees a business opportunity here to take over netspend's share of the market.

Kindest regards,

Enzo
 
Hi Guys,
It has happened several times before, and with several processors on our end (we switched processors in an effort to avoid it to happen again!).
Kindest regards,

Enzo

:eek::eek::eek: Enzo, you didn't switch my Bank "Wire Transfer" Processor that gets my cashout Wire Transferred to me in three days did you ??? Say it ain't so...:eek2:
 
:eek::eek::eek: Enzo, you didn't switch my Bank "Wire Transfer" Processor that gets my cashout Wire Transferred to me in three days did you ??? Say it ain't so...:eek2:

Hi RobWin,

Absolutely not ! (remember when the seperate 'netspend' deposit option was introduced ? VISA option is old processor - NETSPEND option is new one). Never fix something that isn't broken ! ;)

Enzo
 
Hi Guys,

First off, just to make this clear, I chose not to respond in this thread until the issue was resolved. We spoke daily with Laurie on chat, I called her over the issue, and we've had numerous lengthy calls with incapable netspend staff in an effort to get this straightened out. All I could've added to this thread was that yes indeed we sent out the withdrawal the day Laurie requested it and no we never doubled any charges.

There's two separate issues in this case. The issue of the double-charge is the oldest netspend issue. It has happened several times before, and with several processors on our end (we switched processors in an effort to avoid it to happen again!). We have gone through a lot of effort and hours of futile communication trying to help netspend resolve this issue. At one point in time we actually allocated engineers to it just to be able to give netspend a technical pointer on where to look. (It's not really a double charge, its a pending hold on top of an accepted capture. Netspend is either accepting a capture without clearing the matching hold - or accepting a hold without funds on the card.). To make matters worse, they are charging the customers for this (a debit card that goes negative ?? funds taken off on recharge ??), AND they've clearly instructed their helpdesk to put the blame at the vendor.

Their behavior is not just unprofessional, it seems impossible to get anyone on support that can even see what's going on. ("its a double charge" - insist it is not - "oh yes its a hold, the vendor's fault" - insist it is not - "indeed, our bad it will drop off in 7 days" - insist you wont accept that, and they'll connect you to someone else for the exact same scenario to repeat..). There is basically nothing the vendor can do to resolve this issue, we've sent emails, faxes, made calls and all to no avail. Customers that do manage to get the holds removed tell us it is because of their persistence and in some cases aggression towards the Netspend helpdesk.

The withdrawal issue is a new one for us. Laurie's withdrawal left the 3Dice offices the day she requested it, and our processors office the day after. (the request was made around midnight - else it would've been the same day.) That is the point in time where the (electronical) funds leave our accounts and arrive at netspend. The three-to-five (now seven-to-10) is the number that was given us by netspend themselves as on how long it would take them to process the CFT transaction. (Withdrawals at 3Dice don't take any time. Checks take time at the postal services and VISA withdraws take time at the issuing bank.). From that point on, netspend has not just held the funds for an exuberant 11 days, they topped it of by denying the existence of the transaction, once again blaming the vendor for a mistake they made. Obviously we will accommodate Laurie's withdrawal ASAP.

Having said all that, many hundreds of netspend transactions, both deposit and withdrawal are processed daily at 3Dice, and we see relatively few problems. But when things do go haywire, expect netspend to charge you, deliver substandard support and blame the vendor. I strongly feel that a company like netspend can only exist because of the current US legislative situation, and I'm starting to see similarities with the prohibition. (Netspend - the moonshine cc). Lets hope another issuer sees a business opportunity here to take over netspend's share of the market.

Kindest regards,

Enzo
...............thank you enzo, im glad you came on and said what ive been trying too explain all along.:) ....................laurie
 
Thank you 3 Dice for your post - I have personally had no problems with Netspend. I will continue to use my card for deposits ( as it is my only option) but if any problem ever arises I now know where the problem stems and will be very vocal they be the one who fix the issue. Thanks again for the informative post.:notworthy
 
Just wanted to give a heads up on my double dip from Club World. All cleared up this morning. The actual deposit was made on the 20th and the two hits were on the 26th. I made a small deposit on the 24th and it came thru fine. How utterly strange? Went back thru all deposits just to make sure and all seem fine. Very very strange.
 
Just wanted to give a heads up on my double dip from Club World. All cleared up this morning. The actual deposit was made on the 20th and the two hits were on the 26th. I made a small deposit on the 24th and it came thru fine. How utterly strange? Went back thru all deposits just to make sure and all seem fine. Very very strange.
..........this is just a thought and a thought only, but if netspend did this to x amount of people and held the funds for 7-30 days or not held (who knows), wouldnt they be getting interest from x bank that they are using or making money somehow on this, at the same time blaming the vendor and trying to throw everyone off with different stories, just a thought, im watching way to much court t.v:D..........wheres nash or rob the bank experts when you need them?:D..
 
I guess that is a thought. First they are making us really feel like criminals when we have to sneak around to find ways to deposit and then we are at the mercy of any and all who want to screw us over because they can.

Laurie, are any of your charges going away? Keep us posted.
 
its comming down

laurie

Account No.:

Thursday, March 27, 2008
Available Balance* : ($136.54)



3DICE.COM
With Card
$45.00



3DICE.COM
With Card
$49.00



3DICE.COM
With Card
$71.00....................................the last drop off tonight at midnight and ill be at a pos. bal. again:)
 
..........this is just a thought and a thought only, but if netspend did this to x amount of people and held the funds for 7-30 days or not held (who knows), wouldnt they be getting interest from x bank that they are using or making money somehow on this, at the same time blaming the vendor and trying to throw everyone off with different stories, just a thought, im watching way to much court t.v:D..........wheres nash or rob the bank experts when you need them?:D..
SLEEP TYPING:D:D.....Personally, I am not sure what to make of the whole entire situation. I try to stay out of most 3 DICE threads based on my past experiences and in fairness to all parties. That said there is one sentence in Enzo's post that disturbs me and is sorta deja vu in a different way but as per a prior agreement with Enzo I will not enter a debate. I guess the real issue Laurie is you getting paid and other than what I mentioned above, I will leave it at that!:)
 

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