32 red £20k 'freeroll'

[nutnut]

gave up on these freerolls after they changed some of lower cash prizes to bonus,absolute joke not sure if it was ones i played or is standard now but just another reason to avoid 32red. literally gives the casual player no chance of winning real cash on these without spending hundreds like a addict

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

I see there is no new fortnightly freeroll scheduled - just wondering if this is because there will be festive season themed freerolls - and then a return to the fortnightlies -- or have we lost them ? :-(

Mark ??

There will be festive themed tournaments in December - although I wasn't aware we had cancelled the existing ones yet, someone is obviously more organised than I thought.

Mark

 

[vinylweatherman]

There will be festive themed tournaments in December - although I wasn't aware we had cancelled the existing ones yet, someone is obviously more organised than I thought.

Mark

I look forward to winning them (Just hope sscrabble gets distracted down the pub).

The next one was showing when I last looked, so there was no sign of there being a pause, not even for the festivities.

 

[kavaman]

Ive mostly stopped playing these. Too much time consuming, and its been extremely hard for me to win one recently. Maybe cos vinyl and scrabble are almost always winning them . Maybe ill make a comeback for some christmas festivities.

 

[sscrabble]

The next one was showing when I last looked, so there was no sign of there being a pause, not even for the festivities.

You are seeing something I am not - been checking for the last week and there was not, and is not, any sign of one !

 

[Brockie]

You are seeing something I am not - been checking for the last week and there was not, and is not, any sign of one !

There was an Immortal Romance 20k freeroll as the next tournament, but the last time I looked, it had been deleted from the schedule.

 

[vinylweatherman]

There was an Immortal Romance 20k freeroll as the next tournament, but the last time I looked, it had been deleted from the schedule.

That is what I have been seeing, but I checked yesterday after reading this thread and it has now vanished, leaving the current one the last one showing. So far, none of the festive ones are showing other than the network 100K pool one that has loads of rebuys, rather than loads of continues, so there is a chance for the occasional player to place high with little outlay if they get lucky.

 

[dunover]

That is what I have been seeing, but I checked yesterday after reading this thread and it has now vanished, leaving the current one the last one showing. So far, none of the festive ones are showing other than the network 100K pool one that has loads of rebuys, rather than loads of continues, so there is a chance for the occasional player to place high with little outlay if they get lucky.

Since the demise of the AWPs do actually play slots still, or restrict yourself to tourneys with the calculated profit/loss strategy?
'bout time you furnished us with some screenies again....

 

[vinylweatherman]

Since the demise of the AWPs do actually play slots still, or restrict yourself to tourneys with the calculated profit/loss strategy?
'bout time you furnished us with some screenies again....

OK

 

[dunover]

OK

And you had the audacity to nick 4th. place too......

 

[brianmon]

so there is a chance for the occasional player to place high with little outlay if they get lucky.

Perish the thought... A casual player actually winning a tourney, rather than buying first place

 

[hedgehok]

OK

What you did with "vinylredman" wasn't that smart

 

[vinylweatherman]

What you did with "vinylredman" wasn't that smart

Should have been 2nd place, but the RTP was terrible

Still, I have spent so much time in the Boiler room this weekend that the light hurts my eyes

 

[hedgehok]

Should have been 2nd place, but the RTP was terrible

Still, I have spent so much time in the Boiler room this weekend that the light hurts my eyes

I have played the tournaments a couple of times in 2014 when you could win them without going the full distance. It requires too much attention and is not really fun to play. Especially Gold Factory where you have click a lot around in the bonus-game. Building up a second handle in a tournament where only the first 2 finish in profit (and under certain circumstances 5.-10. place) was really bold. Good luck for the upcoming tournaments.

 

[vinylweatherman]

I have played the tournaments a couple of times in 2014 when you could win them without going the full distance. It requires too much attention and is not really fun to play. Especially Gold Factory where you have click a lot around in the bonus-game. Building up a second handle in a tournament where only the first 2 finish in profit (and under certain circumstances 5.-10. place) was really bold. Good luck for the upcoming tournaments.

I occasionally take the risk. What spurred me on this time was the previous tournament, won by a mere 9 million points out of 12 million. Pity I was rather busy over that fortnight otherwise I could easily have taken 1st and 2nd without going all the way. It was back to normal last time though. It is almost as though MY participation spurs others to make damn sure I don't get an easy ride

 

[sscrabble]

I occasionally take the risk. What spurred me on this time was the previous tournament, won by a mere 9 million points out of 12 million. Pity I was rather busy over that fortnight otherwise I could easily have taken 1st and 2nd without going all the way. It was back to normal last time though. It is almost as though MY participation spurs others to make damn sure I don't get an easy ride

You were actually lucky having the ride you did - I was on over 95% rtp but backed off when it looked like 6 or 7 players were going all the way , reckoning 95% would maybe be fourth for a £1000 loss - not worth the risk -- as it turned out Lion and Zippy backed off - which is unusual.

I am scoring well in this one - but Vinyl and Mrs B and Foxy have been getting a ridiculous amount of scores between 80,000 and 200,000 a game - so I may look to win a few quid for runners-up money in this one.

Still no tournaments scheduled - will not know what to do with myself without a game to play !

 

[vinylweatherman]

You were actually lucky having the ride you did - I was on over 95% rtp but backed off when it looked like 6 or 7 players were going all the way , reckoning 95% would maybe be fourth for a £1000 loss - not worth the risk -- as it turned out Lion and Zippy backed off - which is unusual.

I am scoring well in this one - but Vinyl and Mrs B and Foxy have been getting a ridiculous amount of scores between 80,000 and 200,000 a game - so I may look to win a few quid for runners-up money in this one.

Still no tournaments scheduled - will not know what to do with myself without a game to play !

I didn't realise I was under such detailed surveillance

However, the boiler room has been VERY good to me so far, and this looks like being a good run. However I have had a magnificent run before, well over 100% RTP, yet STILL came in second

This is the last one of these before Christmas, so I'll try to make it a good one

 

[sscrabble]

That is what I have been seeing, but I checked yesterday after reading this thread and it has now vanished, leaving the current one the last one showing. So far, none of the festive ones are showing other than the network 100K pool one that has loads of rebuys, rather than loads of continues, so there is a chance for the occasional player to place high with little outlay if they get lucky.

I see the fortnightly game due to start on the 20th December was in the open list - but has now also disappeared - and no other festive tournaments has been scheduled to replace them- are any coming I wonder ( Mark? ) - also wondering if the regular tournaments will reappear in the new year ?

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

I see the fortnightly game due to start on the 20th December was in the open list - but has now also disappeared - and no other festive tournaments has been scheduled to replace them- are any coming I wonder ( Mark? ) - also wondering if the regular tournaments will reappear in the new year ?

We set up the new ones today just waiting for MG approval. 3 x shorter £10k tournaments planned along with a ton of other Xmas stuff.

Previous schedule resumed in January.

Mark

 

[sscrabble]

This is the last one of these before Christmas, so I'll try to make it a good one

Leaving your final onslaught a bit late Vinyl - MrsB will be thinking they have got away with it !

 

[vinylweatherman]

Leaving your final onslaught a bit late Vinyl - MrsB will be thinking they have got away with it !

Not really, remember the story of the tortoise and the hare. MrB is the hare

 

[kavaman]

And im propably also playing all continues on this one aswell.. Hey is anyone having this kind of problems with MG games. Happens on tournaments and other games too. If they have bene running for some time, they slow down. The longer the game has been open, the more it slows down. Then usually after a few hours i have to close the game and reopen it , and then it works fast again. Meaning if there is a long tournament like these i have to close and open the game after 1-2 hours .

I have a very fast desktop computer so its definately not that. Maybe it has something to do with the flash in the games, might be my graphics card ofcourse, that it has some problems with flash, but i dont know. These games do run in flash even on the download version? Gtx 970 , so ..... shouldn't be that.

 

[sscrabble]

And im propably also playing all continues on this one aswell.. Hey is anyone having this kind of problems with MG games. Happens on tournaments and other games too. If they have bene running for some time, they slow down. The longer the game has been open, the more it slows down. Then usually after a few hours i have to close the game and reopen it , and then it works fast again. Meaning if there is a long tournament like these i have to close and open the game after 1-2 hours .

I have a very fast desktop computer so its definately not that. Maybe it has something to do with the flash in the games, might be my graphics card ofcourse, that it has some problems with flash, but i dont know. These games do run in flash even on the download version? Gtx 970 , so ..... shouldn't be that.

I find it is just this Santas Christmas game - I seem to remember it actually had the same problem last year - each game just gets slower and slower as you play it - I reload it every game which is a pain !!

I am resigned to giving this one up and just going for prize money, although as everyone seems to have gone mad on this one I will certainly lose a hundred or two doing it - my rtp is not good enough to go for top prizes

 

[09237653]

Santas wild ride is a cpu monster one of the most demanding games in tournaments, along with leagues of fortune it runs like crap when used in a tournament.

luckily 32red give a decent amount of time to play with, unlike the 3h network freeroll which barely gives enough time to complete one free spins round, isnt it about time they removed the timers from these tournments just give as much time is needed to spend all the available coins would be much fairer overall.

The bigger issue with SWR is the game sucks for wins never hit anything on this game in tournments, give me avalon or thunderstruck any day. In fact if there is a casinomeister special this year please let it not be on SWR, use something old school like spring break, tomb raider or even mad hatters, anything is better than SWR.

 

[kavaman]

Cpu hog or not, but i have a 1 month old desktop for video editing and one of the faster graphics gards on the market. So i think this has nothing to do with cpu and memory. Now for example my cpu goes at 17% and memory at 12% when playing. 32gb of ram also... I can run all of the latest pc games on this same computer, so i think there is something else going on there.

And like i said it goes slower and slower every continue. And when i reload the game it works like a charm again.

 

[vinylweatherman]

It looks like a memory leak to me. The longer it's in play, the more memory it hogs and the slower it runs. It also starts to get jerky. My CPU is also running at 30% just for one instance of this game. I have 16 Gig of RAM, so it doesn't manage to eat too much memory, but the amount it does hog causes it to slow down. It had the same problem last year, and I tried it on 3 machines, so I can rule out a specific OS or configuration problem. I don't believe Microgaming doesn't use the GPU for graphics, only the processor, so it's a decent overclocked processor that's needed, not the latest GPU.

It's not necessary to relaunch the casino, just the tournament every 10 games or so in order to restore smooth running.

The 10K tournaments are better value than the 20K ones as they cost only £500 for all 500 continues, instead of £2500 for all continues on the 20K ones. The prizes are only halved though, so there are more top positions that lead to a profit when using all 500 continues. Two of them will be mine, but the others are up for grabs

 

[09237653]

See, if I had £500 to spend on addons, I would just keep the £500 and consider that a win.

 

[kavaman]

I believe they use gpu vinyl. Check some latest games like jurassic park, it even says how much ram from the gpu is needed... Not sure on some of the older games though.
Yes i was also thinking it could be a memory leak, since it works fine in the beginning. I think microgaming should definately focus on keeping the current games and tournaments in good working order. I think there are many games that have gone somewhat broken for tournaments like Thunderstruck 2. These christmas tournaments are still playable even with the issue, but something is going on.

 

[vinylweatherman]

See, if I had £500 to spend on addons, I would just keep the £500 and consider that a win.

This is not the attitude of a gambler!!!! The purpose of having £500 in one's gambling budget is to use it, and hope that you end up with more than £500 at the end, but with the risk that you could also end up with £0.

If I have had £2500 to spend on add-ons last month, you can be sure I have £500 to spend on add-ons THIS month

 

[fun4all]

The purpose of having £500 in one's gambling budget is to use it, and hope that you end up with more than £500 at the end, but with the risk that you could also end up with £0.

If I have had £2500 to spend on add-ons last month, you can be sure I have £500 to spend on add-ons THIS month

Amazing, welcome to fun4alls world.

 

[kavaman]

Do you play with 3 accounts on this one vinyl? I atleast see 2 accounts, was wondering if the dashdoubleb is also you? Quite possible atleast 10 people are aiming for the top and playing all continues. Maybe even more.

 

[vinylweatherman]

Do you play with 3 accounts on this one vinyl? I atleast see 2 accounts, was wondering if the dashdoubleb is also you? Quite possible atleast 10 people are aiming for the top and playing all continues. Maybe even more.

It's not me, but I suspect it's MrDoubleB's other tournament account. MY Dash account is easy to spot, it sits on the very first row of the table of scores

 

[09237653]

A nice fair tournment as usual with all the profitable prizes going to the same few people (yet again) but I suppose you guys are paying for it so cant really complain too much, the addons arent restricted to the top players either, I had 7 addons and have dropped 30 places since then, makes me wonder how much these tournaments make at the end of the day, quite a few people must make a loss. some of these freerolls might even turn a profit for the casino.

I find when I "go for it" on any tournament, at least 10 other people have the same idea, and will usually struggle to break even, due to bad rtp or ending up in a race and falling short cos the other player will hit a monster win.

best to stick to the accumulators and one shot tournaments.

 

[kavaman]

Ok vinyl . I hope i don't drop too many places, im running second at the moment. Have not played these in a while.

 

[sscrabble]

Was amazed Zippy only came sixth in the tournament - we were both playing at the same time and he was scoring slightly more than me - when he suddenly jumped by 400,000 ! - that was the equivalent of 66 games - I thought he would win by a street - but the rest of his games must have been horrendous !

 

[vinylweatherman]

Was amazed Zippy only came sixth in the tournament - we were both playing at the same time and he was scoring slightly more than me - when he suddenly jumped by 400,000 ! - that was the equivalent of 66 games - I thought he would win by a street - but the rest of his games must have been horrendous !

What a waste!, should have had that run in the 100K Festive Frenzy, not a minor 10K 500 continue event.

My best was 128,000 from three reels wild and Santa on the other two for loads of 5OK Santas.

 

[Brockie]

I have to agree!!

I am Zippy on these tournaments, I got that monster hit and thought it would guarantee me at least a top 2 placing, then as you say my last 100 games or so were awful, maybe I should have lowered my bet a bit, but I just can't bring myself to do that, anyhow, you win some you lose some!!

I guess they pitched this tournament just right with 12 people going the whole 500 continues, myself personally I prefer the longer 1000 continues.

Was amazed Zippy only came sixth in the tournament - we were both playing at the same time and he was scoring slightly more than me - when he suddenly jumped by 400,000 ! - that was the equivalent of 66 games - I thought he would win by a street - but the rest of his games must have been horrendous !

 

[sscrabble]

I did well to score what I did - highest bonus round was about 40000 - I even had one 25 spin bonus with 25 losers ! Gave up on my second entry which was on about 80% !

 

[vinylweatherman]

I have to agree!!

I am Zippy on these tournaments, I got that monster hit and thought it would guarantee me at least a top 2 placing, then as you say my last 100 games or so were awful, maybe I should have lowered my bet a bit, but I just can't bring myself to do that, anyhow, you win some you lose some!!

I guess they pitched this tournament just right with 12 people going the whole 500 continues, myself personally I prefer the longer 1000 continues.

So do I, much easier to beat you and make a profit because fewer people go all the way, certainly not TEN as in this one.

 

[09237653]

so the top 10 (maybe 12) people all used 500 addons and its the RTP that decides it? with most of them making a loss..

 

[vinylweatherman]

so the top 10 (maybe 12) people all used 500 addons and its the RTP that decides it? with most of them making a loss..

Possibly, but maybe fewer people will go all the way in the next one.

In fact, as the cost is only £500, the first 4 positions represent a profit, 5th is break even, and 6th and below mean a loss. In the 20K one, only 1st and 2nd place mean a profit with all 999 continues used.

 

[MightyDuck]

With a non-agression pact everybody would be better off and it would be possible to save time. It's an oligopoly of players so it's doable i guess.

 

[kavaman]

I actually prefer these, 1000 continues is too much, and i am going to try to give you guys a run for your money on next one ..

 

[sscrabble]

I prefer 1000 games - although it is mainly down to luck , you can sometimes still make a profit even with an horrendous rtp - I have had profit with below 90% in the past - with these 500 game ones with £1 rebuys you need at least 98% to make a profit --- and I am sure you have worked out that Mark has put these in as a bit of a Christmas bonus - with the prize money a straight half of the 1000 game tournaments -- rebuys should be £2.50 - you can work out the casino will lose thousands on them.

Hope he is setting up a tournament for New Year week - I for one get withdrawals when there is no game on !

 

[kavaman]

Actually the longer ones have not so much to do with luck, since only a few people play all the continues. Its basicly a lot of work, and i think it takes some of the thrill out of these, but thats just me.

Maybe the casino will lose a few thousand, but its christmas. I don't understand why you have to be so gloomy, when the casino is giving everyone a chance to win these. To be honest everyone would have an even better chance if these had even less continues instead of 500, but i think 500 is a step into the right direction, and now you and vinyl should not be the only ones to win!

12 people went all the way with 1£*12*500=6000£ , and there were loads of people who played atleast 100 continues, and this was only the first tournament, maybe even more people will play all the continues.

Its natural that you and vinyl hope for the 1000 continue tournaments, since you guys won those almost everytime for quite a long while.

Something to consider for 32red in the future, would be sometimes to run tournaments with 20e rebuys, and maybe only 5 10e continues. Similar structure then the 100k tournament running now.

 

[vinylweatherman]

With a non-agression pact everybody would be better off and it would be possible to save time. It's an oligopoly of players so it's doable i guess.

Agreed, let me come first with 10 continues, and I will spend the money wisely

 

[nikantw]

Possibly, but maybe fewer people will go all the way in the next one.

In fact, as the cost is only £500, the first 4 positions represent a profit, 5th is break even, and 6th and below mean a loss. In the 20K one, only 1st and 2nd place mean a profit with all 999 continues used.

Yes, there is a learning curve. People get excited with anything new. I am a fast learner I think.

Found out something new, talking to chat today. New for me anyway. Looks like the bonus winnings from tournaments count in your bonus / deposit score! You can pay 1000 in continues, win 400 bonus, bust out, and then be told from chat “no bday bonus for you, you have already taken 400 bonus this month!”

 

[Tirilej]

“no bday bonus for you, you have already taken 400 bonus this month!”

Are you serious? Did they deny you your birthday bonus?
That stinks and I really hope they change their minds

 

[nikantw]

Are you serious? Did they deny you your birthday bonus?
That stinks and I really hope they change their minds

It was a hypothetical example, and I have no way of knowing exactly how they calculate this. But yes, no bday bonus for me this year from 32red casino group because I am base tier and got a bonus win of 30 from the freeroll and bonus from deposits. I don’t like it but It’s their decision. I just don’t think it is fair to give bonus money at a freeroll with continues. When you use your cash, your winnings can’t be considered a “casino free gift” with wagering requirements.

 

[Mark_32Red (retired acct)]

It was a hypothetical example, and I have no way of knowing exactly how they calculate this. But yes, no bday bonus for me this year from 32red casino group because I am base tier and got a bonus win of 30 from the freeroll and bonus from deposits. I don’t like it but It’s their decision. I just don’t think it is fair to give bonus money at a freeroll with continues. When you use your cash, your winnings can’t be considered a “casino free gift” with wagering requirements.

Hi Nikantw,

I was concerned to hear you were denied a birthday bonus until you mentioned 'base tier'. Birthday bonuses are awarded depending on your loyalty level. To be in base tier you must not have played in the last month or so?

We had to introduce this 'base tier' as people were registering account and simply claiming birthday bonuses without playing. A very small amount of wagering will see you hit bronze and be eligible.

If you want me to check your tier, please PM when I am back in the office on Monday.

Regards
Mark