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You are getting something extremely wrong.Not a single feature.
Played Rick and Morty, The Goonies, Immoral Romance, Thunderstruck 2, Raging Rex 1,2 and 3, raging rhino. primal megaways and several other slots all on MrQ all with a 96% or higher RTP.
It sucks, and I struggle to believe the RTPs are legit TBH
ive been playing bonanza for about 5 years quite frequently,yes i have notiched more change in the last 6 months,one really bizzare thing is in all the bonuses ive had which must be 700-800 not once never a 4 cart trigger 3 cart of course that itself well makes me question everything,its never random,its a machine so its fixedWhen you’ve played Bonanza as much as we have, you notice the smallest tweak or change. It’s been changed at all sites, that’s for sure. Whether the correct rtp is being displayed is another question.
BTG were already an underhanded bunch of crooks so getting Evolution onboard will have put them up there with politicians, when it comes to lies and screwing the public.
Absolutely NOT low variance games. Higher tier RTP YES (except for Rhino, which is still decent enough at...what is it 95.91% or something close to that?)Not a single feature.
Played Rick and Morty, The Goonies, Immoral Romance, Thunderstruck 2, Raging Rex 1,2 and 3, raging rhino. primal megaways and several other slots all on MrQ all with a 96% or higher RTP.
It sucks, and I struggle to believe the RTPs are legit TBH
so what is the issue here is it the RTP or something else ?Well guess who played Rhino for the first time in over a year today?
Yep...this f*&% numpty called yours truly did....that's who.
And in news that will shock ABSOLUTELY BLOODY NOBODY, here is what happened.
100 quid in, 40p bets. I actually managed to make this deposit last an hour and a half.
Because I got TWELVE features. Which is rather good actually.
But it was anything but "rather good".
Because unfortunately, the "best" one of those twelve paid 30x. And it was 39 spins long. *
* Actually, after checking back, the 39 spin feature wasn't quite the best one.
And the best win was slightly more than 30x (31.5x - if you include the 2x triggering win)
Details below at the bottom of the post.
As for the others, here were the erm....."lowlights". Mainly because there weren't any highlights to report!
I had EIGHT features end with a BOG. Of which....
SIX CONSECUTIVE features paid less than 7x
FIVE CONSECUTIVE features paid less than 3.5x.
FOUR CONSECUTIVE features paid less than 1.5x and last but not least...
TWO CONSECUTIVE features that paid ZERO.
Across three features, I at one point had TWENTY-FOUR CONSECUTIVE FREE SPINS, ALL OF WHICH WERE DEAD SPINS. TWENTY FUCKING FOUR.
Are you fucking kidding me, Shite And Blunder?
In all seriousness, how the actual fuck can a slot "randomly" pull out the worst possible set of spins the very moment a feature is triggered. I mean, do they actually WANT you to think that a slot is RIGGED beyond belief?
Of course, that is only part of the story.
Biggest base game win....25x. Surprised I even got one that big tbh.
But of course, there was a bloody craptonne of "what might have beens" in the base game.
Four times I was one reel out from 8 ways of six cheetahs.
One reel short of six ways of crocodiles.
One reel short of 4 ways of 5 Rhinos SEVEN times.
One reel short of 12 ways, 8 ways and 6 ways of Rhinos once each.
In EVERY SINGLE ONE of those spins mentioned above, the one reel that let me down was on the left.
So I ended up with either a 2OAK or a dead spin.
In terms of buyers remorse, that session EASILY ranks among my top 5 of all time in nearly THIRTEEN YEARS of online slotting.
I cannot for the life of me remember a session as frustrating as that.
Where literally nothing goes right, but your agony and frustration is prolonged by the sheer volume of wasted opportunities, that only serve to add insult to injury.
I honestly wish I had busted out having seen only one or two shit features.
Because at least that would have been in line with my less than positive expectations, as well as being less frustrating and painful.
If you play a slot for an hour and a half, get twelve features (which is averaging one every seven or eight minutes) and you STILL can't manage even ONE win of a mere 35x stake during the ENTIRE session, then I think you are more than entitled to believe that a slot has been completely nerfed into the ground and is damn near unplayable. It ain't right.
It was that frustrating that I have now closed my account for three months at the casino where this took place (Gala).
I am absolutely fucking done with casinos that think it is OK to treat me like crap with "entertainment" like THAT. Oh...and to hell with the "the casino doesn't control the games" line. It happened at their site, and I can't complain to the provider. They were my hosts and I had a thoroughly miserable time. So fuck them
and their pathetic rewards wheels where the biggest thing you can win is 50 fucking pence.
EDIT: Oh I just realised, I recorded the features on that Microsoft game bar thingymebob, so I can actually give more accurate details. NB. The 2x triggering wins are not included.
Feature 1 - 13 spins, paid 65p (1.625x)
Feature 2 - 18 spins,, paid £11 (27.5x)
Feature 3 - 8 spins, paid £5.50 (13.75x)
Feature 4 - 13 spins, paid £1.30 (3.25x)
Feature 5 - 8 spins, paid £11.80 (29.5x)
Feature 6 - 39 spins, paid £10.80 (27x)
Feature 7 - 8 spins, paid £1.30 (3.25x)
Feature 8 - 8 spins, paid 40p (1x)
Feature 9 - 13 spins, paid 50p (1.25x) NB. 10p win on last spin
Feature 10 - 8 spins, paid ZERO
Feature 11 - 8 spins, paid ZERO
Feature 12 - 13 spins, paid £2.70 (6.75x). NB. First spin retrigger, but didn't get first win until spin 9, which ended the 24 dead free spins streak.
All the bonuses are pre determined on rhino aren’t they???Tbh lasting 1.5 hours @40p on Rhino with that deposit sounds like victory. I would be busting out in 45 minutes if I still played it.
It's always been a tough beast, even on Flash. I ploughed hundreds of thousands through it on Flash, was pretty much obsessed with it for 4 years. Only saw 18 rhinos in the bonus ONCE. But it used to give you a decent run for your money most of the time. Plenty of base game hits and decent retriggering features.
Contrast with the shuddering mess of the HTML version which loves a Bonus Guarantee, crashes if you try to skip the count up when you get a win with Rhinos, constantly shows near misses and for some reason has 9's showing a lot more than the original.
The RTP hasn't changed, so where have the payouts gone? Unless there is a scripted bonus or two in there which pays multiple lots of 16-18 rhinos (unlikely), I can't explain it. Nefarious to say the least.
As already mentioned - most of these are not "low" variance slots though by the old standard or the new.... most of them would be somewhere between high (old scale) and medium-high (new scale).Not a single feature.
Played Rick and Morty, The Goonies, Immoral Romance, Thunderstruck 2, Raging Rex 1,2 and 3, raging rhino. primal megaways and several other slots all on MrQ all with a 96% or higher RTP.
It sucks, and I struggle to believe the RTPs are legit TBH
I wouldn't say the variance has changed, it's just that you get three rhinos and the game crashes out because of a botched HTML5 conversion... it amazes me that SG/LnW still haven't fixed this last I checked because it makes the game unplayable.Don't even get me started on Rhino. That game was nerfed to the gills years ago the moment they killed off the Flash version and gave it a HTML5 "makeover".
What was an already high variance game is now a very high variance game with a severely diminished base game.
Without that potential safety net, players are now fully dependant on the features delivering.
Which they do not.
Like IR, a once all-time great slot reduced to a shell of its former greatness, nerfed to the point of being virtually unplayable.
Rhino was always about the one big hit... the bonus guarantee paid frequently because it was such a lumpy slot in the bonus. Cue flashbacks to @dunover screaming "Jack Queen pissing King" into the microphone...100 quid in, 40p bets. I actually managed to make this deposit last an hour and a half.
Because I got TWELVE features. Which is rather good actually.
But it was anything but "rather good".
Because unfortunately, the "best" one of those twelve paid 30x. And it was 39 spins long. *
Absolutely not, WMS used genuine reels - much like with the Life of Luxury discussion a few months back, the PAR sheets may still be out there with the full reel strips and everything. The only thing that would be undisclosed is the distribution of 2x and 3x multipliers but you can probably work that out from gameplay (or RTP modelling) if you really wanted to.All the bonuses are pre determined on rhino aren’t they???
Those results have already been determined by previous RNG calls, it would be a pretty serious violation of game principles (and pretty easy to exploit) if you could reset the bonus in such a way.Certainly on the old flash version, if the bonus crashed it would restart it back at the very beginning and produce the exact same results?? That’s what made me think it was all predetermined?? Surely a random call for each spin wouldn’t do that???