Wrong to give Virtual Casino a chance

TravisL

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<div class="bbWrapper">I&#039;ve been following the <i>Old URL</i> probation story for several months now, so I knew what I was getting into. Last July, it took 15 days for a $1000 withdrawal from their Vegas Strip casino, but it did eventually come through. Not wanting to chance it again, I stayed away from the rest of their affiliates until I got an e-mail from &quot;Roger&quot; last Thursday, sent to the e-mail address I set up exclusively for Vegas Strip:<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Dear {my name},<br /> <br /> This is Roger, Manager of The Virtual Casino and I&#039;ve noticed you haven&#039;t been back for a while. Well, now&#039;s the time to come visit and check out the new casino. You&#039;re going to like what you see.<br /> <br /> I want to see you in the casino again and I&#039;m going to personally welcome back with &quot;Today&#039;s Manager Bonus&quot;. That&#039;s right, I&#039;m going to personally give you a $20 Free Chip so you can try out all the new games and improve your chances of winning. Just go to the cashier and redeem the coupon {coupon code} You can&#039;t say no to free cash. So come on back now. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m an attorney, so I&#039;m pretty comfortable reading through the terms and conditions buried on gambling sites. It was clear that I&#039;d be limited to withdraw $20, no matter how much I won, and that there would be a 30x playthrough requirement when I played blackjack with it.<br /> <br /> I got lucky, and ended up with $97.50 after $600 worth of play. I then hopped into chat with Danielle, confirmed the $20 limit, and asked about withdrawal methods. She referred me to e-mail Danny in accounting, which I did.<br /> <br /> The next day, I checked my Virtual Casino account, and the $97.50 was gone: &quot;Manager Withdrawal Requested&quot;. I hopped onto chat and asked about the withdrawal, and was told to contact Roger in accounting. I e-mailed the address in the original e-mail from Roger, and it bounced back. I then used their <a href="http://www.thevirtualcasino.com/support.php" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">online form</a> to ask about the missing funds. I&#039;ve yet to receive a response.<br /> <br /> I&#039;ll be the first to concede that it&#039;s only $20 and it&#039;s only been five days -- hardly worth making a fuss about -- but if it&#039;s so difficult to get a mere $20 back or even get a response, I&#039;d hate to imagine what would happen if I make a deposit and win.<br /> <br /> I&#039;d PAB if I thought it&#039;d do any good, but I don&#039;t.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Dont you hate it when that happens? Seriously, you did pretty well on $20.00, its such a shame that they would risk losing you as a customer for that amount! It&#039;s hard to understand. Thanks for the info, it will help others.( id keep after them just for the heck of it!)<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TravisL" data-source="post: 147108" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=147108" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-147108">TravisL said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> ...I&#039;d PAB if I thought it&#039;d do any good, but I don&#039;t. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Well you should since this is the only way I can track this.<br /> <br /> The &quot;probation&quot; is teetering at the moment - every good point and bad point count right now.<br /> <br /> I&#039;m not too concerned about past issues (but they are always in the back of my head); I&#039;m concerned with how they are operating right now. This is important for me to be able to gauge any improvements on their part.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> TravisL:<br /> I got lucky, and ended up with $97.50 after $600 worth of play. I then hopped into chat with Danielle, confirmed the $20 limit, and asked about withdrawal methods. She referred me to e-mail Danny in accounting, which I did.<br /> <br /> The next day, I checked my Virtual Casino account, and the $97.50 was gone: &quot;Manager Withdrawal Requested&quot;. I hopped onto chat and asked about the withdrawal, and was told to contact Roger in accounting. I e-mailed the address in the original e-mail from Roger, and it bounced back. I then used their online form to ask about the missing funds. I&#039;ve yet to receive a response. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <b><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: Red">So, you got the Ole Soft Shoe.<br /> They shuffled you around and got you nowhere.<br /> I&#039;m truly sorry to hear that.<br /> But, It&#039;s typical Virtual crap.<br /> It&#039;s been years since they&#039;ve been promising to walk the straight and narrow. <br /> They didn&#039;t, they&#039;re not and they aren&#039;t going to.<br /> They&#039;re thieves and I promise you they&#039;re not going to change.<br /> Just one question.<br /> WHY SHOULD THEY?</span></span></b><br /> <div style="text-align: center"><i>Expired Image </i>&#8203;</div><b><div style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: Red">DANILLE IN DRAG...YOU...ROGER</span></span>&#8203;</div></b></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Casinomeister" data-source="post: 147138" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=147138" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-147138">Casinomeister said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well you should since this is the only way I can track this. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> PAB completed, sir. No need to follow up with me on this comparatively small but probably representative issue.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">what a crappy offer, to give a manager bonus with a 30x playthru and a withdrawal limit of 20 $ - its just ridiculous.<br /> Maybe the best point is, the &quot;manager&quot; says: You cant say no to free money<br /> <br /> oh yes! we can, as long its from virtual<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="frufrugirl" data-source="post: 147129" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=147129" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-147129">frufrugirl said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> id keep after them just for the heck of it!)<img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/eek2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":eek2:" title="Eek2 :eek2:" data-shortname=":eek2:" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I am. I e-mailed them a very simple question on Sunday, using the form on their support site (to <a href="mailto:accounting@casinosupportcenter.com">accounting@casinosupportcenter.com</a>): &quot;Please contact me about $97.50 missing from my account.&quot; Still no response.<br /> <br /> Hmm... going through my old notes, it looks like in addition to the $1000 I collected last summer from Vegas Strip (after 15 days of waiting), I also was able to persuade Prism to release $890 in winnings in July (after more than 30 days, nine chat sessions, and four e-mails). If they don&#039;t want me as a customer -- which is understandable for someone who won almost $1900 off of them -- why would Roger &quot;personally welcome [me] back&quot; and &quot;personally give [me] a $20 Free Chip&quot;? And if they do want me back to theoretically lose my money back, why would they stonewall over $20?<br /> <br /> I&#039;m actually enjoying this one more than the pursuit of the larger amounts -- it&#039;s a lot less stressful.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">TravisL,<br /> <br /> Your powers of persuasion are beyond belief. Prism is one of the casinos that will keep your money whenever you initiate a cashout. A single chat session with their customer service rep is more than enough for me given their damn rude attitude and you have had nine of these. Getting your $890 should be written in the history books. It happens only once in a blue moon.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Going a little off topic, because my $20 is at Virtual and I&#039;m about to talk about Prism, but they&#039;re one-and-the-same, aren&#039;t they?<br /> <br /> I was more shocked than anyone when the Prism withdrawal came through. My guess is that it worked out because <br /> <br /> 1) I was sickeningly polite in every chat and e-mail, ending all of them with something like &quot;you have a wonderful day.&quot; At one point, a rep said I should trade jobs with her (I think her job must&#039;ve sucked).<br /> <br /> 2) I took down names and times and dropped them in subsequent conversations, saying things like &quot;I talked to so-and-so at 7:15 PDT on Thursday, and he said...&quot;<br /> <br /> 3) When they said I needed to contact the manager, I asked politely for his e-mail address, phone number, and specific time that he&#039;d be in the office.<br /> <br /> 4) I followed up at that time. When I was told he wasn&#039;t in (surprise!) I expressed concern for his health and workload.<br /> <br /> 5) When I e-mailed the manager, I put forth my &quot;assumption&quot; that they&#039;d typed in my Neteller number wrong. Right. My real assumption was that they were waiting for someone else to deposit so they&#039;d have money to pay me.<br /> <br /> My favorite thread of conversations went like this (names removed):<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> {From me:} It&#039;s now been more than a month since I initiated my withdrawal, more than three weeks since the withdrawal was approved, more than two weeks since M told me it would be done &quot;any minute,&quot; and more than a week since you told me &quot;I will see what I can do to get this sped up for you.&quot;<br /> <br /> Any progress yet? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hey, Advanced Players!!!<br /> <br /> This is C over at Prism. I have some serious action going on this evening and I am opening some of it up to you guys. Now, you know, based on your skill level, the bonuses will be a little bit different than what regular players are getting but I do have some great deals for you guys better than what is on the Advanced Players page.<br /> <br /> Plus, I have a 60% cashable bonus with only 20X playthrough for the first 5 players to make a deposit of $2,000.00 or more. Get in touch with me ASAP. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;ve love to take you up on your offers, if I had some kind of way to know that I&#039;d be able to withdraw my potential winnings in a reasonable amount of time.<br /> <br /> How&#039;s my month-old withdrawal coming along? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> To be honest, I do not know why this has been delayed so long. I will talk to accounting about this tomorrow. You were approved to be paid, by me, on the first of this month. I will talk to accounting and see what I can do to get this sped up. I am so sorry for this delay. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The money arrived the next day.<br /> <br /> Now HighRollersLounge, on the other hand... that was like pulling teeth, and I had to bring Montana Disputes into that one. Another story for another day.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="TravisL" data-source="post: 148264" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=148264" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-148264">TravisL said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I was more shocked than anyone when the Prism withdrawal came through. My guess is that it worked out because <br /> <br /> 1) I was sickeningly polite in every chat and e-mail, ending all of them with something like &quot;you have a wonderful day.&quot; At one point, a rep said I should trade jobs with her (I think her job must&#039;ve sucked).<br /> <br /> 2) I took down names and times and dropped them in subsequent conversations, saying things like &quot;I talked to so-and-so at 7:15 PDT on Thursday, and he said...&quot;<br /> <br /> 3) When they said I needed to contact the manager, I asked politely for his e-mail address, phone number, and specific time that he&#039;d be in the office.<br /> <br /> 4) I followed up at that time. When I was told he wasn&#039;t in (surprise!) <b>I expressed concern for his health and workload.</b><br /> <br /> 5) When I e-mailed the manager, I put forth my &quot;assumption&quot; that they&#039;d typed in my Neteller number wrong. Right. My real assumption was that they were waiting for someone else to deposit so they&#039;d have money to pay me. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> You&#039;re such a sweet heart! <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/thumbsup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /> <br /> <br /> No wonder they paid you so fast, possibly their track record for non-VIP customers. I like the way you kept your cool even though they pulled their own tricks. I guesss in the end your efforts paid off. Nicely done.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><div style="text-align: center"><span style="font-size: 12px"><b>Virtual Casino Group---RT---Costa Rica---<span style="color: Red">SIX MONTH PROBATION </span></b></span>&#8203;</div><br /> <b><span style="color: Blue"><span style="font-size: 12px">Hi Bryan,<br /> I see that Virtual is still in the Rogue Section and still on SIX MONTH PROBATION.<br /> The truth is that I haven&#039;t been counting the months but, after all the crap about Virtual that has been continuing why keep them on probation?<br /> You have your thumb on all matters concerning online casinos so I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve heard about more their lies and bull than I have.<br /> Wanna make an old man happy?<br /> Get rid of them and do a write up in your next newsletter how much they REALLY SUCK. <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/thumbsup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /> </span></span></b></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><b>No news yet</b><br /> <br /> I&#039;ve emailed them a few times, through their web site and through my regular mail, and not gotten a response. Twice in chat I&#039;ve been told to call Roger, but his work hours and my available hours to call haven&#039;t matched (why should I have to call in the first place?). And one chat session never connected -- I gave up after 5 minutes of waiting:<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Chat InformationPlease wait for a site operator to respond.<br /> Chat InformationAll operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.<br /> Chat InformationAll operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly.<br /> Chat InformationAll operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. An operator will be with you shortly. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Still, I&#039;m trying to come up with a time that I can reach Roger by phone. I&#039;ve got low hopes.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> TravisL.... Still, I&#039;m trying to come up with a time that I can reach Roger by phone. I&#039;ve got low hopes. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <div style="text-align: center"><b><span style="color: Blue"><span style="font-size: 15px">I thought you were paid? <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/confused.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-shortname=":confused:" /> </span></span></b>&#8203;</div></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Oh, no. That was an off-on-a-tangent rant about how long it took me to be paid by Prism last summer. I&#039;m still waiting to find out about my money from Virtual.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I guess you don&#039;t listen to my webcast:<br /> <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/webcast/" class="link link--internal">https://www.casinomeister.com/webcast/</a><br /> <br /> <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Casinomeister" data-source="post: 152706" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=152706" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-152706">Casinomeister said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I guess you don&#039;t listen to my webcast:<br /> <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/webcast/" class="link link--internal">https://www.casinomeister.com/webcast/</a><br /> <br /> <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m going to try RA one more time... (Last time I tried it, it wouldn&#039;t run and crapped out after 2 seconds everytime I fired it up.) <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Mousey" data-source="post: 152709" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=152709" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-152709">Mousey said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> I&#039;m going to try RA one more time... (Last time I tried it, it wouldn&#039;t run and crapped out after 2 seconds everytime I fired it up.) <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/grin.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" data-shortname=":D" /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You can always download the MP3 file.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Got it up and running, and listening as I type... <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/thumbsup.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":thumbsup:" title="Thumbsup :thumbsup:" data-shortname=":thumbsup:" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="Casinomeister" data-source="post: 152710" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=152710" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-152710">Casinomeister said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> You can always download the MP3 file. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Tuning in <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> Will the newsletter be online soon? I subscribed, but after you published this week.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="lojo" data-source="post: 152716" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forums/goto/post?id=152716" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-152716">lojo said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Tuning in <img src="/forums/styles/default/casinomeister/smilies/smile.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> Will the newsletter be online soon? I subscribed, but after you published this week. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It&#039;s up.<br /> <a href="https://www.casinomeister.com/newsletters/" class="link link--internal">https://www.casinomeister.com/newsletters/</a></div>
 
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