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Why do I continue to play at Rival?

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I just wanted to know if anyone else has had the luck that I've had lately. I figured if some other people did, I wouldn't feel like such a loser. I have lost all of my money at Rival this past month. It seems since they did their upgrade, had their birthday bash, and have been having these "withdrawal" problems, I can't win a thing. It's just nuts. I play Fantasy Fortunes only because I've lost $4500 betting pennies on it this last month. That's just unbelievable. The only reason I keep playing the darn machine is because I think, I've got to win something back, I mean with bonuses and all, I've put almost $10,000 into that machine. The bonus rounds are ridiculous. I mean, you wait like 100 spins for one, and you end up with $6.00, if you're lucky. I just went through $389 in 1/2 hour again! And I say it like I'm surprised!! LOL. I don't even remember what a winning round looks like on that machine. I just picked the Knight (which is the bonus round where you have any chance of making any money) the first time 6 times in a row!! That's unreal. Anyway, just wondering if anyone else is having problems. And to top it off, I've been waiting over a month for withdrawals. I guess that's before all these "Problems" began happening, when I could actually win something. Actually, almost 6 weeks for some withdrawals. Anyway, just looking for feedback so I don't feel luck such a loser. I don't think I will ever win again. :eek:
 
Well, let's see. I deposited three times yesterday - one lasted 5 minutes, one lasted 6 minutes and the last one I played about 15 minutes. Never played more than $.60 per spin. Never say Cleo, or Frankenstein, or the fish on the new Islot game.

Why do I keep depositing? I just keep thinking that it can't be that bad all the time. However, after last night, I uninstalled all of them. If I get a free chip, I will play, if not then I won't.

I contacted the rep about it and he told me he didn't see anything wrong with the play. I guess he thought I was fishing for a free chip. I get enough of them so I wasn't begging. So I exercised my right and wiped them off.

Use to love the games and could actually pick up a little but like you said since the upgrade and all they seem to be "tighter than an old maid's garters" so to speak. :D
 
So true, I guess I should follow you, would save me alot of money. I actually made my two deposits today last 1 1/2 hours, almost fell out of my chair. Usually $50 lasts me about 10 minutes. But like I said, I got lucky at first, had $389, nowhere near my cashout requirements, and lost that all in 1/2 hour. And the said thing is, that's the norm now.
 
Ive been having a click2pay prob so its been well over a week for me to make a deposit at the rival casinos. Last time i did play was all the same for me. Best i hit was 4 passports in travel bug got me on second round win was 40 on 60 cent spin. That was it for me not more then 10 cents in the new rival islot and very very few free spin or bonus rounds. I guess maybe i should thank my bank for my click2pay probs that have saved me some money. Now will see click2pay will be back working tomorrow for me but i think i might try something else. Other casinos i cant hit a thing with is playboy and intercasino strange enough just before i lost c2pay made 2 deposits at both no bonus rounds free spins nothing deposit didnt last more then 10 15 min at best. Yet just before i did make that deposit i was playing for fun and boom was 20 dollar lines bonus rounds and so on same old story, but the sad part is like others i still deposit thinking maybe the slots are hot tonight just not sure why they are so tight the past month. Anyways gl everyone let me know if you hit anything.
 
Sorry to hear your unlucky run Heidisue76
If I knew I was going to spent that kinda money in one month I would of drove to Foxwoods or The Mohegan Sun from NY if I was you.or even AC.
Better Days Ahead for you.:thumbsup:
All we can do is hope for the best.
 
Im actually pretty happy w/ Rival play - Im a very low roller but my small deposits seem to last @ Rival farther than any other software. I have made a few withdrawals and have had no problems getting them within 3 days to my QT account. I am very concerned with the threads I'm reading on Rival casinos. I will continue to play there and I hope I dont regret it. :)
 
I've got two complaints to add to this thread.

First off, I tried to use the ACH option to put a $150 withdrawl right into my checking account at Simon Says. I was informed, that since I deposited through ewalletxpress, I had to withdrawl that way. Problem is, ewallet charges 10% upon withdrawl of any funds. Sounds like the two are in a collaboration of some sort, to keep any winnings in the "system". Absolutely pathetic!!!

Also, I just fed back $290 of my winnings (yes, the $150 was included), via 4-play Aces and Faces Video Poker. In all the years I have played VP, I have never had such a problem drawing a hand in my life! My money was gone in about 45 minutes, playing $5 per 4 hands. At one point, I had not impoved on a 3-of-a-kind, or an open-end straight draw, or a 4-flush draw in 20 consecutive situations!!! That's a total of 80 hands!!! What are the odds of that?

I guess I'll just have to stop gambling online. I swore off RTG (Rigged Too Good) software a while ago, and now I guess Rival can bite me, too. Since I'm a US player (in Illinois where MG has banned), looks like I'll be back to hitting the B&M casinos.
 
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I must admit that Scurvy Bitch (aka Scary Rich) has been very tight lately for me (doesnt seem to be any counts around - and no I didnt put the "o" in that word by mistake :D )

Its important to realise that we all go through ebbs and flows, and its not a bad idea to either take a break ( like i am) or change software for a while. Im not sure why this works, but I think it puts me into 'reset' mode and I dont play to chase my losses any more - I just play for entertainment, and it oftens turns out better for me anyway.

My experience tells me that there is no real way to know if a casino has tightened their slots, particularly on high-variance games. So, we may suspect it (and we may be right), but you will always see players posting in winner screenshots with big wins on games you 'suspect' have been tampered with, which kinda blows that theory out of the water really. Sometimes, it really sucks being a slot player ;)

Just my opinion of course :)
 
yeah, sorry about the derail.:o

back on topic. i also noticed a much harder time winning on scary rich, but it hasn't bothered me too much. it really hasn't been any different than my experiences playing at any casino, online or b&m. sometimes, a game just seems determined to load up on your money. the important thing to consider, IMHO, is that there are also waves of wonderful wins to create that balance of enjoyment. if it's always downhill, than after a few weeks, it might be a good time to take a break or try a different casino. especially with some of the rival and 3dice games (high variance), it can seem you never win.... but that one hit changes everything around. of course, the problem is that if you never get that great hit, your play will seem utterly futile.
 
Well guys, thought I was going to be able to finally have some good news at Rival. I deposited $32, for the third time in about 1 hour, but anyway, on my last 32, claimed the 100% bonus, and had to wager 50 times ($3500). You're not gonna believe this, but I hit $990! I got up to $1200, but nowhere near my wagering requirements. By the time I reached them, had $350, barely over what I deposited just today. Anyway, of course Fantasy Fortunes took my $1100. Why am I not surprised? That's the fourth time this month I've gone through over $1000 on that machine. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. If anyone would like to try it, it has $5,000 of my money, with bonuses that's almost $10,000. That's why I keep playing, I think it's got to pay some back. For goodness sakes, I only bet pennies!! I have never had such a run of bad luck in my life. I've been gambling for 10 years, and I don't think I've lost in my whole life what I've lost these last 6 weeks. It's unreal. But, my fault. On that machine, if you meet your wagering requirements, and are ahead by even $10, I guess you should cash out. Anyway, wah wah wah, I think they monitor this, because I've had REALLY bad luck since I started bi**hing on here. LOL.
 
i guess you all have screenshots like this, hit 20 free spins and didnt even get x5 my bet back,

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i think its time to give rival a rest, gambling is meant to be fun but with all of the problems at rival, very slow payments, tightness of the slots, crappy CS, it just isnt fun playing there,
 
Well guys, thought I was going to be able to finally have some good news at Rival. I deposited $32, for the third time in about 1 hour, but anyway, on my last 32, claimed the 100% bonus, and had to wager 50 times ($3500). You're not gonna believe this, but I hit $990! I got up to $1200, but nowhere near my wagering requirements. By the time I reached them, had $350, barely over what I deposited just today. Anyway, of course Fantasy Fortunes took my $1100. Why am I not surprised? That's the fourth time this month I've gone through over $1000 on that machine. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. If anyone would like to try it, it has $5,000 of my money, with bonuses that's almost $10,000. That's why I keep playing, I think it's got to pay some back. For goodness sakes, I only bet pennies!! I have never had such a run of bad luck in my life. I've been gambling for 10 years, and I don't think I've lost in my whole life what I've lost these last 6 weeks. It's unreal. But, my fault. On that machine, if you meet your wagering requirements, and are ahead by even $10, I guess you should cash out. Anyway, wah wah wah, I think they monitor this, because I've had REALLY bad luck since I started bi**hing on here. LOL.

Heidisue, I've been reading your posts and I'm sorry but I just gotta say something. I hope you don't get offended because I don't mean to kick you when your are down, but why do you keep going back for more when you've said many times how burnt you are about your losses? You keep talking about how much you've lost at Rival and it's a pretty sizable amount. You are admitting that you are chasing your losses and depositing again and again and repeatably losing. If you are getting ahead at times but busting out before meeting the WR, maybe you should consider not taking the bonuses or just taking a break.


:)
 
"Anyway, of course Fantasy Fortunes took my $1100. Why am I not surprised? That's the fourth time this month I've gone through over $1000 on that machine. I'm a glutton for punishment I guess. If anyone would like to try it, it has $5,000 of my money, with bonuses that's almost $10,000. That's why I keep playing, I think it's got to pay some back. For goodness sakes, I only bet pennies!! " Heidisue

if it's any consolation, i've never hit ANYTHING on that game either :o. certain games seem to be, shall we say, lacking in terms of presence in the winner's ss thread.

"I'm a glutton for punishment I guess"... secondary definition of a slot player.;)
 
I was playing the Scary Rich, in fun mode... hit 5 scattered frankensteins for the first time ever and they actually paid NOTHING...totally surprised...whats the point of having scatters if they don't pay anything but a bonus round that is a loss anyway from the cost of reaching it?

Duh? I guess Rival still doesn't get it...happy players come back and blow more than they cash out ...the cashout is a ritual with many to prove it can be done but they give it right back because they can and know they will have fun...again they have lost sight of the "big" picture..

You can't run a casino on lousy payscale, tight machines, slow withdrawals...you end up losing the players you have in the end..
 
IMO Rival was mean in cancelling the autoplay function for free play mode
I am glad you mentioned this for I feel the very same way...the first time I hit autoplay and the pop up said it was for real players only I almost laughed thinking how low can one casino go....to make you deposit?

I guess they must be losing many players with the pay scale they created and the truly bad bonus round wins..

Again, I really do enjoy the games (which is a shame in the long run for them) and play in fun mode only unless they give me a chip or two, and I also have not deposited in almost 1 and 1/2 years...because of the discussion way back in the forum on the pay outs..I thought that they truly do not care to keep players happy and wanting to come back..so, I kept my money..
 
bb28,
You are absolutely right! I don't know why I do keep going back. I need a shrink or something. My fiance and I talk about it all the time. I just have it in my head, that the machine has got to pay eventually. But I think I'm done with that thinking. Sorry to complain so much guys. Hope everyone has better luck. :)
 
I was playing the Scary Rich, in fun mode... hit 5 scattered frankensteins for the first time ever and they actually paid NOTHING...totally surprised...whats the point of having scatters if they don't pay anything but a bonus round that is a loss anyway from the cost of reaching it?

Duh? I guess Rival still doesn't get it...happy players come back and blow more than they cash out ...the cashout is a ritual with many to prove it can be done but they give it right back because they can and know they will have fun...again they have lost sight of the "big" picture..

You can't run a casino on lousy payscale, tight machines, slow withdrawals...you end up losing the players you have in the end..

amen:notworthy
 
Yeah, I've finally had enough. I just went through yet another $300 in 1 hour. I just can't do this anymore. I e-mailed them and told them when they are ready to loosen the machines a little, and start paying again, to let me know, LOL. I'm still waiting for withdrawals since March (which is the last time I even came close to a withdrawal). Anyway, hope everyone else has better luck at Rival. They treat new players great, since I became a "VIP" it's been horrible.
 
bb28,
You are absolutely right! I don't know why I do keep going back. I need a shrink or something. My fiance and I talk about it all the time. I just have it in my head, that the machine has got to pay eventually. But I think I'm done with that thinking. Sorry to complain so much guys. Hope everyone has better luck. :)

The machine did in effect paid eventually.....it wasnt you though.:o
 
The only rival ive been able to put a withdraw through is and kakata hold your breath is sloto. And thats only when i never taken a bonus out with them
seems for the first few min i can hit all bonus rounds making my deposit 10x what i put in so i always now withdraw and play with my initial deposit. Then that usually goes in a few min of playing. Never waited more then 72 hours from them for my money. I have decided that seeing it doesnt really matter where you do play last while nothing is hitting not even enough to give you extra playing time. Last nite i went into rtg on free play picked 15 games hit free spins
200 times on each 3 times i hit free spins and that didnt pay much one was 16.80 other was 1.80. Mg last week i did get to make a withdraw but wasnt near what i have put into their games either. And again bonus or free spins far and few between and when landed paid nothing. Im a low roller not looking to make thousands on a hit would be nice dont get me wrong but would also be nice to hit something that would at least allow you longer then 20 min of playing time if that with your deposit. Is it most of the casinos year end for them and they are trying to capture some lost income im not sure but for time being ill play it safe and limit my deposits to few times a week.
Lets just try and keep all of us updated if some of the casinos start to loosen up a bit maybe they would see more happier customers and better deposits from us also.
 
My 2 cents (of course)

The more I thought about Kakata's comment, the more it got me thinking.
This is going to sound nuts, I know it will, especially written here in B&W.

What if : It's true? Whos to say it cant be? How do we know these software rivals arn't in cohoots and taking turns? If you look back, it all comes full circle

RTG
MG
RIVAL

When I started here 2 yrs ago everything was RTG RTG RTG screenies of cleop, ronin, all of them. descussions of 20 cents VS $1 or more bets

Then...RTG got weak and people were complaining. So......out comes MG threads, screenies of hitman, osbournes, tunzamunni, mega moolah, everyone seemed to be happy....."way more games" "tired of same old rtg games" so much to choose from 15 liners, 20 liners , wow 40 liners

All of a sudden ppl werent getting paid in a timely manner , the slots were tightening up so people went back to RTG and started winning again (probably because they took this hiatus)

Then I ask about Rival being accredited in the "ask the casinomeister" I noticed all the screenies ppl were posting, scary rich, prime property, reel of fortune, those soap opera ones. WOOHOOOO we found something that isnt RTG or MG...could this be the one? All the screenies were going, ppl were getting paid.

RuhRoh: Why are Rival slots so tight? OMG, I remember putting in $20 and lasting awhile and cashing out (not me persay). What happened? this sucks, You know what? Im gonna go back to RTG, atleastthey pay out fast!

This is a vicious circle people and it's not going to end , ever! Kakata has a great point. Boy, its funny how one line a person writes makes a huge difference and puts things in perspective

How do we know they are not taking turns? How come it is a cycle. go look at screenies, you will see.....rtg, mg, rival......rtg,mg,rival with the exception of 3 dice, there seems to be screenies from atleast 2 people a day since we started there and NOT ONE PERSON has complained about getting paid in a timely matter (IMHO...timely means within 5 days if theres a weekend) Im in the USA
 
Babs,

I think you are right about the tightness of the slots. Sometimes they are loose and sometimes the other way round. Many gamblers like to whine (me included) when things dont go their way.

However, the fact that many are not getting paid in a timely fashion is much more different. There are many players not getting paid several weeks after cashing out no matter where they live. The Rivals (excluding Slotocash) have been claiming it is due to processor problems without elaborating for months but this is not getting any clearer or better and there have been delayed payments dating back to March. It is even more confusing because the Rival Managers were usually very helpful but they seemed to have taken a passive stance on this issue.
 
Deckmate

I took Superior's (Rival) free money and made enough to withdraw $150, but in the time it took to get all the paper proof to them I withdrew it and turned it into $400 which they duly gave me, no problems. Since then I has spent a good deal and as all say, it just goes....never enough to withdraw. I will say that Rival games are some of the most interesting and I frankly do get enough time on them to simply call the $ an investment in fun. I have also deposited without using any of their bonus stuff...straight up..and play three card poker. Let me tell you, go to your local casino since you will never win at Superior in 3 card, and if you do get a bit up, it switches on you and you have a super, super downhill ride. As soon as I get my next and last bonus from them, they will get wiped out.

































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I took Superior's (Rival) free money and made enough to withdraw $150, but in the time it took to get all the paper proof to them I withdrew it and turned it into $400 which they duly gave me, no problems. Since then I has spent a good deal and as all say, it just goes....never enough to withdraw. I will say that Rival games are some of the most interesting and I frankly do get enough time on them to simply call the $ an investment in fun. I have also deposited without using any of their bonus stuff...straight up..and play three card poker. Let me tell you, go to your local casino since you will never win at Superior in 3 card, and if you do get a bit up, it switches on you and you have a super, super downhill ride. As soon as I get my next and last bonus from them, they will get wiped out.

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Superior will prolly bonus ban you after the 3rd one anyway. Its like that with them.
 
Babs,

I think you are right about the tightness of the slots. Sometimes they are loose and sometimes the other way round. Many gamblers like to whine (me included) when things dont go their way.

However, the fact that many are not getting paid in a timely fashion is much more different. There are many players not getting paid several weeks after cashing out no matter where they live. The Rivals (excluding Slotocash) have been claiming it is due to processor problems without elaborating for months but this is not getting any clearer or better and there have been delayed payments dating back to March. It is even more confusing because the Rival Managers were usually very helpful but they seemed to have taken a passive stance on this issue.


Rival players not getting paid for weeks??? Some since March??? That is the first time I've heard of that... could you please give me exact examples ChuChu59? Also, this is certainly not at Vegas Regal Casino. :thumbsup:

It is true that processing is an issue for Rivals, but I don't know of any US facing brands that either haven't, don't or won't have issues with processing. It is part of the game. And the few issues we have, I think have been handled very well and in a timely manner (generally players never even noticing). If I'm mistaken, I'd like to know about it. :notworthy

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager
 
Rival players not getting paid for weeks??? Some since March??? That is the first time I've heard of that... could you please give me exact examples ChuChu59? Also, this is certainly not at Vegas Regal Casino. :thumbsup:

It is true that processing is an issue for Rivals, but I don't know of any US facing brands that either haven't, don't or won't have issues with processing. It is part of the game. And the few issues we have, I think have been handled very well and in a timely manner (generally players never even noticing). If I'm mistaken, I'd like to know about it. :notworthy

Kind Regards,
Nicolas Johnson
Regal Affiliates Manager

Nicolas,

More than a year ago, there were many threads about players not being paid in months by Rival casinos. At that time, many agreed that there were cashflow problems with Rival casinos in general. Slotocash seemed the only exception. Confidence has since returned after the Rivals started paying out but the Irish Luck fiasco brings back these bad memories.
 
Originally Posted by NicolasJohnson
Rival players not getting paid for weeks???
I am going to pop in here because I was feeling pretty comfortable again with the rival I play at when they processed my withdrawal in 2 days...but now they are claiming it will be "sometime" next week before my Monday the 16 of November request will be processed...

I feel it is very bad to lull one into thinking that the 5 day rule won't be invoked after KNOWING a withdrawal can be done in 48 hours by Rival...I am so disgusted and disappointed with this casino...they enticed me back after I closed my account with a very nice ND chipc etc...and now they will be taking almost 2 weeks for my next withdrawal???

That is very bad customer service IMO...


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I am going to pop in here because I was feeling pretty comfortable again with the rival I play at when they processed my withdrawal in 2 days...but now they are claiming it will be "sometime" next week before my Monday the 16 of November request will be processed...

I feel it is very bad to lull one into thinking that the 5 day rule won't be invoked after KNOWING a withdrawal can be done in 48 hours by Rival...I am so disgusted and disappointed with this casino...they enticed me back after I closed my account with a very nice ND chipc etc...and now they will be taking almost 2 weeks for my next withdrawal???

That is very bad customer service IMO...


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Silcnlayc I feel ya. Sometimes you can't win for losing.
 
I am going to pop in here because I was feeling pretty comfortable again with the rival I play at when they processed my withdrawal in 2 days...but now they are claiming it will be "sometime" next week before my Monday the 16 of November request will be processed...

I feel it is very bad to lull one into thinking that the 5 day rule won't be invoked after KNOWING a withdrawal can be done in 48 hours by Rival...I am so disgusted and disappointed with this casino...they enticed me back after I closed my account with a very nice ND chipc etc...and now they will be taking almost 2 weeks for my next withdrawal???

That is very bad customer service IMO...


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I would be annoyed too Silc.

Ive heard that BS from Rivals before and its unacceptable....'sometime next week'...sheesh....its like saying 'well it just depends on how hot it is outside' or something ridiculous like that.

Just take your money (when they give it to you) and run...stick to the Rivals that will pay within 48 hours. :)

Some of these outfits havent the first clue about customer retention and loyalty.
 
I have personally never experienced any problem withdrawing from a Rival casino. For me their slots are in a different league to other software. Creative, original, and you can see visually a lot of thought has gone into them.

But all the gimmicks aside the playability in terms of fun is week.
Playing in a Rival is a bit like going into a swanky restraunant and coming out with food poisoning.

I find the best way to play at these slots is by depositing much lower than you would normally and play very cautiously. I also find it is worth taking their bonuses because you seem to hit either something very big or absolutly nothing at all.

Mike
 
Slotocash Identification Documents problem

I am very disappointed with this casino and only played as they are approved here and players seem to say they are best Rival regarding cashins.

I only deposited via my QTender account and requested payment to same, I made cashin and immediately emailed with my Valid/Current Drivers License attached and since all utilities in husbands name, sent top portion of a credit card statement that clearly shows my name and address as same as DL.

These documents accepted everywhere else.

Now they request a faxback form asking for same information as on DL and my account registration. So I sent it back via email with an attachment of my QUICKTENDER account home page showing my name and the QT account number I used to dep and cashin.

If they give me problems now I will be very POed

Anyone had similar problems?
 
Slotocash Identification Problem Resolved

I would like to compliment the SLOTO representative here, I sent a PM and the immediately corrected the problem and provided prompt payment to my Quicktender Account.

Thank you Sloto
 

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