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Where do you NEVER win?

jpm

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Here's an interesting question I have for you gamblers who play at multiple casinos. Are there any that you've played at on at least 5 different occassions and just never win no matter what you play or when you play? I have a few, but I'll chime in with mine after we get going, so it doesn't seem like just a personal gripefest.
 
I must say that I have had a terrible run at Gold Club. Played their monthly 100% bonus 4 times and cashed out a total of 250$. Thats a total of 400$ deposited of mine plus 400$ in bonus and recieved 250$ back form 800$. And thats flatbetting 10$ hands with perfect BS black jack. Pretty pathetic eh.
 
I have won with every casino I've played, except for one, Cirrus Casino. Slots programmed so tight, I could actually hear them squeak!!
 
My worst experiences were at the Gaming Club & Spin Palace. I have never left a casino angry when I have lost until the gaming club. I think we spent about $2000 that day & since we were doing $100-$200 at a time, we thought we would be able to play all day...we lost it so fast that we both were like "UNINSTALL THAT NOW!!!" A friend or someone I chat with at a different board has won so much at spin palace so we checked it out and did nothing but lose. But My best experiences have been with Jackpot City, Bella Vegas, Golden Tiger (who have paid me the quickest and have the BEST reward program I have found) I have done REALLY great & REALLY bad at River Belle so they are still lingering in my lists. At Golden Tiger not too long ago, I had $50 to play with and ended up just an hour later with over $6000 from several wins of $500 -$1200. I lost about $4000 within two hours, stopped playing and saved the rest so my husband could have fun & play and he lost it in about an hour that night. This was before I learned how to flush. I will never be that stupid again. But I think we all have been there where you think "I have to win some of it back" especially when you have gone on a huge winning streak...but weve ended up with nothing...oh those evil little slots & our love hate relationships. I love Reel Thunder so much & when it doesnt pay me or I go on a constant losing streak, I feel personally offended like "hey reel, its me your friend wanda, why are you doing this to me?" lol whats that number to gamblers annonomous ? Maybe Dr. Phil?
 
I almost forgot to post mine on here! Spin Palace is at the top of my never win list too Wanda. I keep getting bonus offers from them and have played with non bonus offers as well and can simply NEVER win there. Its amazing. I think in over a dozen sessions, I've had one $50 profit session.

Another is Roxy Palace, same scenario as Spin Palace. Captain Cooks is another one. I think I've had one winning session there, and that wasn't for much. I did, however, hit a 5000 coin royal at their sister Casino Kingdom so that was nice.

On the RTG side, the only one I've played at recently is Crown Vegas, but can never win there either, no matter how many bonuses they toss my way.

When it gets to the point of multiple losing sessions over many months at a casino, I delete the s/w and don't go back, no matter what bonus offers they send my way. Unless one of these places are putting totally free money (no deposit required that is) in my account, I won't go back.
 
Agreed 100% about Roxy Palace. "Never Again!" - Cried the Jews "Never Again!"
 
that cause linda they have a rng cheat code that wont let u win no matter how hard u try. WE need to have them disbarred from the business.
 
Nonsense, I've hit 4ok on let it ride there at least twice and made plenty of money on lesser hands there as well. And they ALWAYS paid promptly and without any hassles. I've played there regularly for many years.

What do you play there Linda?
 
I've never won a lot at Gold Club Casino - by this I mean I've never actually won any hands of poker or any craps ever got a blackjack... I think its rigged. Overall I've only lost about maybe $400US - I guess it could be worse :p

Gary
 
Am I right when I say its Boss Media (just like William Hill UK)? Is that what Will hill use? They used to use crypto but have non donwload Boss?

Anyway - its one of the few casinos I havnt one at - I have won at Will Hill, so I think it must be bad luck or maybe I play too much when I'm drunk :beer:

Gary
 
Gold Club uses Boss Media software and, I think, the casino is operated by Boss. Personally, I love this casino. They have a monthly $100 match bonus. When I first signed up the playthrough was 10 x bonus, now it is 25 x bonus -- this is a little high but just under the level where I'll refuse the match money. I usually play BJ. I'll lose my deposit and bonus two out of every three months but average a win of $500 - $600 every third month or so -- keeping me a bit ahead of the game. I've had some trouble getting them to send my winnings to the right account (still my account, just not my preferred gambling account), but they always pay out within a week (shorter I think to NETeller).

Their craps tables have been very good to me also, bringing me back after some terrible BJ sessions. (Of course, play at the craps table does not count towards the required play through.)
 
I never win at Piggs Peak. I'll get ahead a little bit then have a terrible run. I have also had terrible luck with second, third deposits at a lot of Microgaming casinos. Seems like I come out ahead on my first deposit + bonus but then can't seem to string together many winning hands on subsequent buy-ins.
 
Wallstreet Casino... BossMedia... Playede there 4-5 times and never won. BlackJack flatbetting right into the big round zero. Played with free money, bonus and no bonus.. Still the same...

A bit afraid of the dealer, so only play public tables. In a private session I'm afraid the dealer might kill me totally...
 
Goldclub is flat out fixed, i use to love them , they so fixed , they once put money into my account and i had to call them, to them they did it. other casino is every last playtec

i stick to con and interbet and rtg casinos
 
I'm certain it's been well over a year since I posted a note here saying something like "we need to stick together and share where we're WINNING, not b**tching about where we lose. The more who win the more who redeposit to these same sites that pay" and yada yada. But this perspective is so much more ...vindicating. And I, too, have 2 or 3 casinos where I am lucky to leave still owning my password! Now I'm not saying that there is anything shady about any of these sites or their associated software. However a couple of things seem odd: I typically win the first time out with a casino that's new to me but in later sessions, nothing. Also, as some other contributors have mentioned, the places where I lose are invariably the same places so many other players swear by. So the first comment could lead you to believe that promos for new players are augmented by making sure that player has enough feel for the win under his/her belt by the time (s)he logs off that a compulsion to return is inevitable. And the second comment could indicate paranoia and a persecution complex that certain players are preselected to win and others to lose, not matter what, providing a no-brainer hands-off method of balancing out the casino win/lose financial picture.

That having been beat to death, I canNOT win at Intercasino, nor at Captain Cooks,nor can I get beyond a tease at Caribbean Gold prior to taking my entire bank roll into the dumpster with me. I've played online for 3 years and am certainly not} the worst player, tactically, but in that time I have only cashed out perhaps 3 times and none even totaled $1,000. Oh, yes, another highly touted site is Sands of the Caribbean. Never even came close to any win of substance (i.e.<,$50 per game "hand")
 
Three places come to mind:

InterCasino. I always, always lose there. After immense effort, I will occasionally get myself a few bucks ahead, then kaboom -- the roof falls in, and it always falls in. I will also say that I have perceived a real difference between the public games and the private games. In the private games (which, against my better judgment, I'm always drawn to because they're faster and multi-hand), I have the sense that I've been taken back behind the building, where nobody can see, to have the crap quietly kicked out of me.

Casino365. I have come genuinely to hate the voice of that British-accented woman who welcomes you when you log on. I have no doubt that she is a horrible person with a sordid past. I won a measly $50 the first time I played, but since then have won absolutely nothing. I'm considering simply setting up a direct deposit arrangement, so that I can pay these folks a fixed amount each month, without the time and bother of actually playing the games.

Finally, for me, the Great Power Nazi of All Casinos -- Sands of the Caribbean. I have concluded that there was some sort of error in my download of the software -- whatever the bits and bytes are that provide for a player win were omitted from the transfer. It has to be a technical problem (:]), because nobody could cheat this blatantly. I recently flew down there to try to locate that BJ dealer with the comforting, honey-toned Jamaican accent -- I was gonna stomp his stealin' [color=ff0000]•[/color][color=ff0000]•[/color][color=ff0000]•[/color] -- but I couldn't find him. He's clearly hiding out from me.
 
Ohmigosh, "Caps",that is the funniest piece of semi-solicited, self-serving (lol) editorializing I have read in a decade. You have hit that nail right on the head. I have to admit to a lack of self control and a severely damaged "stop" gene in my gambling DNA, but I enjoyed your post thoroughly even as I contemplated the possibility that together we're supporting this entire industry singlehandedly. My only regret is that we never dare gamble together. It would look like an online gaming Armistice celebration if THAT word got out! Casino Operators everywhere saying "Mildred! Quick! We CAN buy that BMW for little Ricky!" Loved it.[color=0077aa] :rofl: [/color]}
Allz(not)fair
 
allzfair wrote: ...certain players are preselected to win and others to lose, not matter what, providing a no-brainer hands-off method of balancing out the casino win/lose financial picture

I had a similar thought along this line as well, and of course thought it must be just paranoia. But more and more I wonder if maybe there is something to it. I, like you, can't win at Capt. Cooks. Same with Spin Palace. Lucky to get out of there with my fillings still intact! And its uncanny because it doesn't matter what games I play either and its a streak that lasts for many many months (or until I wised up and stopped playing there). It just does not feel right.

Intercasino on the other hand runs either hot or cold for me. I play let it ride there almost exclusively (sometimes some 3 card poker for a change), and have hit 4ok a couple of times, but other times can't buy a pair. This can go on for a couple of months, then turns around. That I don't mind because eventually it turns around, but not at those two mentioned above.
 
I have also had ups & downs with intercasino-mostly downs. I think I only came out ahead one time and that was for a hundred or so. I keep getting sucked into those 100% match bonuses! Slots Alley was the other one I tried to many times with nothing to show-finally learned (sometimes I can be such a slow learner!) Lost my initial $$ and bonus so fast at Roxy's that I only tried it once (so sometimes I learn quicker).
Actually had the best overall luck at Golden Riviera and River Nile (sister sites-microgaming) but their payouts were so slow I stopped playing at either of them.
 
My son and I played in Intercasino five times since they came out with this NEW bonus that you can claim each month.

Other than the fact that they are sending us our PIN #'s via regular mail, the CS has been extremely courteous and very helpful.

GREAT PLACE TO PLAY!!!

Our total DEPOSITS added up to $385.00
Our total PROFITS are $461.00
 
WTG! Yeah that pin # by mail thing is very annoying, but once you get it you are all set. Word of advice, keep that in a couple of different places so you don't lose track of it. I use a little text file to keep track of such things. BTW, Neteller cashins are lightning fast there.
 
I am so glad to hear from all of you!I almost downloaded Roxy tonight but now I won't. I too have thought that you win when you download and then they get you hooked and it's lose..lose..lose after that. I just started playing at Jackpot City and was very excited. I cashed in $750 on my initial purchase of $50. Since then...nothing. I keep going back but can't buy a win on anything. I really like Golden Tiger. I paly VP and have won a royal at least once a month. I am not crazy about their promotions, but as long as I can keep winning I'm okay with them. I used to play only at Playtech casinos and now won't bother with any of them. The viper sites seem to pay out within 3 days and all the Playtechs take over a week. :( I just found out something that you may already know but I'll share anyway. If you cash out (microgaming) and call the casino and ask them to flash your withdrawal they will take it out right away and begin processing it. I have very little disipline and will keep going in and taking little bits until it's all gone. So this feature is very helpful :)
 
Its possible to WIN even at a rigged casino. Take Casino Bar for example.
After the Wizard of Odds made his case that they were running a crooked bj game...

I got a $20 birthday bonus there with no purchase necessary. If I remember correctly, I played 12xd+b and cashed out with approx $80.

Then a couple months later they offered me a 300% bonus (12x d+b) for my $20 deposit. I turned it into approx $200 and cashed out.

On both instances I was paid. And there is not a doubt in my mind the game was fixed. I lost MOST OF THE SMALL BETS. The dealer hardly ever busted. However the large bets saved me. If I remember, I got bj on 2 $25 bets.

The fact is, with the right bonus, and a little luck, its possible to win at even the most crooked of hellholes.

My point is that short term results mean NOTHING. Certain casinos may be completely honest, and you can lose most of the time, and others may be totally crooked and you might win most of the time. Its not until you have recorded the results of THOUSANDS of hands before you can make a hypothesis as to the honesty of a software developer.

Another important Q is why would I ever play at a rogue site, knowing darned well they are crooks? Well, occasionally the bonus makes it worth it. Even though Casino Bar cheats -- they have a history of always paying winners (Of the very few that managed to cashout with anything). So, I figure $20 is chump change, and its worth the risk, since a 300% bonus can even overcome a 5% house edge. After all 12x20=240 and 12x60=720. My total action would need to be 960. 5% of ~ $1000 = and expected loss of less than $50. So therefore even with a 5% cheat mode, I would still be ahead by ~$10 (theoretically). I want to point out that I used the proper basic strategy for this game with composition dependent exceptions.
 
I have played Video Poker and Blackjack at a lot of online casinos with different software, and had normal ups and downs at most of them... but have had VERY poor luck with Video Poker Classic.

The Video Poker just does not seem "normal" and plays very different than at other casinos. Two abysmal experiences with their video poker cost me over 20% of my wagers, which is more than twice the amount of most large swings from my experience.

Recently, a large bonus offer lured me back to try my luck with Blackjack there. Now, I hate to hear losers complain about a bad run of luck... and I'll take my bad luck along with the good... but once again, the Blackjack just did not seem "normal". LOTS of stiff hands dealt to me were met with LOTS of 10's when I hit. Just TOO many!

And the dealer had a normal mix of up cards, but WAY too many low down cards and when he hit himself. This worked against the dealer when he had a 10 up, because he often had a low card down, giving him a worse hand. And, when I resorted to standing on stifff hands, even against a 10 showing, he would often bust on the 10 that was predictably waiting for me.

BUT, he more than made up for this by having another low card down when he might have had a stiff hand himself... like a 5 showing, OFTEN had a 4, 5, or 6 down card and TOO rarely a 10. And the huge number of low cards when he hit... and the number of dealer 20 and 21 were just UNBELIEVABLE.

I am just relating my experience and wonder if anyone else has noticed the same thing. Good luck to you all!!

Steve
 
Kiwi win

I have had very good luck at Kiwi. They pay as stated in their agreement.
5 days to reverse withdrawal. That's not my favorite rule.
 
imswhite said:
I have played Video Poker and Blackjack at a lot of online casinos with different software, and had normal ups and downs at most of them... but have had VERY poor luck with Video Poker Classic.

The Video Poker just does not seem "normal" and plays very different than at other casinos. Two abysmal experiences with their video poker cost me over 20% of my wagers, which is more than twice the amount of most large swings from my experience.

Recently, a large bonus offer lured me back to try my luck with Blackjack there. Now, I hate to hear losers complain about a bad run of luck... and I'll take my bad luck along with the good... but once again, the Blackjack just did not seem "normal". LOTS of stiff hands dealt to me were met with LOTS of 10's when I hit. Just TOO many!

And the dealer had a normal mix of up cards, but WAY too many low down cards and when he hit himself. This worked against the dealer when he had a 10 up, because he often had a low card down, giving him a worse hand. And, when I resorted to standing on stifff hands, even against a 10 showing, he would often bust on the 10 that was predictably waiting for me.

BUT, he more than made up for this by having another low card down when he might have had a stiff hand himself... like a 5 showing, OFTEN had a 4, 5, or 6 down card and TOO rarely a 10. And the huge number of low cards when he hit... and the number of dealer 20 and 21 were just UNBELIEVABLE.

I am just relating my experience and wonder if anyone else has noticed the same thing. Good luck to you all!!

Steve
Is video poker classic powered by Icrystal software (or known as Gambling Federation)?
If it is, their software is very likely to be non-random. You can request your play log and have someone analyze the odds for you. You will be amazed by the outcome.
 
jpm said:
Nonsense, I've hit 4ok on let it ride there at least twice and made plenty of money on lesser hands there as well. And they ALWAYS paid promptly and without any hassles. I've played there regularly for many years.

What do you play there Linda?
Translation: I've hit for 4 dollars on let it ride there atleast twice...
 

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