When does my Gamstop ban end?

[nfehily]

How do I find out how long is left on my Gamstop ban? I've tried to figure it out via the Gamstop site, but to no avail. I know its around the August mark, but I would like to know the exact date. Cheers.

 

[Webzcas]

You can contact them direct, details here:

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Also you will need to contact them once your period of self exclusion is up, to remove the block, otherwise it will continue to remain in place.

 

[justdoit]

you need to login and you see date year when it ends, if you dont tell them in 7 days you want to stop they will extend for 5 years, if you cant log in just talk on live chat they will tell you

 

[slot_zombie]

And after it ends, be prepared for any casinos you're currently signed up with to treat you as if you've got bubonic plague.

 

[nfehily]

Thx all

 

[Webzcas]

And after it ends, be prepared for any casinos you're currently signed up with to treat you as if you've got bubonic plague.

I can only begin to imagine, besides once you are allowed back on, I would expect source of wealth requirements would make Casumo's seem like a cake walk

 

[andysbetting1187]

Gamstop expiring is only the first step in trying to get back to online gambling - the majority of casinos will see you as a higher risk and will not reopen your accounts.

 

[Guntis]

It depends on the casinos, shit ones will take anyone back and big bookies may not even reply to your query.

 

[steveyboy]

And after it ends, be prepared for any casinos you're currently signed up with to treat you as if you've got bubonic plague.

they all do that anyway

 

[Lameloball]

And after it ends, be prepared for any casinos you're currently signed up with to treat you as if you've got bubonic plague.

Is this true for the likes of William hill. My ban ends in about 9 months and hope they will not exclude me permanently?

 

[Guntis]

I was never GamStop registered, but some time ago, I asked William Hill to close my account because I no longer needed it. But, when I tried to reopen it by sending them two emails, I never got any replies.

 

[dunover]

After your GAMSTOP expires, especially in today's climate in the UK, you will find most operators would see reopening your accounts as the equivalent of appointing Gary Glitter a Brown Owl at the Girl Guides.

As people have said above, I have have also heard from people it's going to mean huge frustration and very little joy. You are now high-risk, a leper to them.

 

[slot_zombie]

After your GAMSTOP expires, especially in today's climate in the UK, you will find most operators would see reopening your accounts as the equivalent of appointing Gary Glitter a Brown Owl at the Girl Guides.

As people have said above, I have have also heard from people it's going to mean huge frustration and very little joy. You are now high-risk, a leper to them.

Ridiculous really, because people could be using GamStop for all sorts of reasons. Just had a bad run and want a break, saving up for something special and don't want to fall into temptation, want to be more responsible with money due to the cost of living crisis etc. Not necessarily out-of-control degenerate gamblers. It could be perhaps argued that making use of GamStop's services is the epitome of responsible gambling....

 

[bamberfishcake]

Recently looked for information on GAMSTOP and GAMCARE about RG Tools.

To my surprise, I could find no information about deposit, loss, and wager limits on either site. The only other recommendations I could see for managing your money was to contact your bank or other charities.

It seems nobody is recommending or providing info on casino RG tools.

 

[Slotter]

Silly me thought it was a solid enforced way of taking a break across all casinos. But, nope, even though the exclusion I requested expired a few weeks back (and shows an expiry date of the same) I have to call them if I really want my exclusion to expire. Are Gamstop monetised to keep you as an excluded customer? It's like breaking up with my car insurance company by email but being told I would need to call their Retentions dept to do that (who would do their level best to talk me out of it) Maybe if most casinos would see me as an eternal leaper & wouldn't want my action anyway there's not much point. I guess there's the Cryptos.

 

[justdoit]

Recently looked for information on GAMSTOP and GAMCARE about RG Tools.

To my surprise, I could find no information about deposit, loss, and wager limits on either site. The only other recommendations I could see for managing your money was to contact your bank or other charities.

It seems nobody is recommending or providing info on casino RG tools.

yes they do that I join gamstop on Covi19 time, my bank and GP call me, about gambling problem, wtf I ask who told you I got gambling problem they sad gamstop, they have rights to share your data with everyone include your employment,I join to have brake to see what is happen with covi19 fkerss they made so much drama about it, I gamble for 20+ years my worst experience is when I join gamstop..but is very easy trick to play on any UK casino when you are in gamstop, but you need to open new casino account

 

[Guntis]

yes they do that I join gamstop on Covi19 time, my bank and GP call me, about gambling problem, wtf I ask who told you I got gambling problem they sad gamstop have rights to share your data with everyone include your employment,I join to have brake to see what is happen with covi19 fkerss they made so much drama about it, I gamble for 20+ years my worst experience is when I join gamstop..but is very easy trick to play on any UK casino when you are in gamstop, but you need to open new casino account

That's mad, such a thing should be confidential! Did GP recommend you take paracetamol to cure your disease at least?

 

[justdoit]

That's mad, such a thing should be confidential! Did GP recommend you take paracetamol to cure your disease at least?

some nurses they work for gp, I told her not to call me again, is crazy how much power gamstop have, they can destroy your life by sharing everything

 

[irish-ranger]

some nurses they work for gp, I told her not to call me again, is crazy how much power gamstop have, they can destroy your life by sharing everything

Please inform me how gamstop got your GP details? I find this highly unbelievable even if they deemed you a serious suicide risk they would struggle to find these details.

 

[Guntis]

Here is an easy-to-view Gamstop's privacy page, in case one needs the details but doesn't want to sift through the original at:

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Who does Gamstop share the information with and why?

1. Service Providers: GAMSTOP works with several service providers to offer its services. Some of these providers include:

- The Data Shed (IT, development, and software delivery services)
- SendInBlue (email services)
- AWS (cloud services)
- TransUnion and Onfido (identity verification services)
- Fetchify (address lookup services)
- Connect Assist (consumer services)
- Zendesk (case management system)
- Microsoft (software)
- Nexus IT (IT support)
- Citrix (secure information sharing)

2. Gambling Operators: GAMSTOP discloses personal data to gambling operators. They inform these operators if someone trying to use their service matches the identity of someone registered as self-excluded on GAMSTOP or if they were registered as self-excluded in the past 7 years.

3. Gambling Commission: Personal data might be disclosed to the Gambling Commission when necessary for the provision and proper operation of the GAMSTOP service or for the Gambling Commission’s regulatory functions.

4. Research: With specific consent, GAMSTOP will share personal data with selected independent researchers to improve the service.

5. GamCare: With specific consent, personal data can be shared with GamCare, which operates the National Gambling HelpLine.

6. Legal Rights and Obligations: Occasionally, due to legal requirements, court orders, or governmental authority, GAMSTOP might be required to disclose certain types of personal data. They might also need to disclose personal data as part of the establishment, exercise, or defense of legal claims.

7. Corporate Reorganisation: In events like reorganisation, sale, or takeover, personal data might be disclosed to new entities within the group or potential acquirers and their advisers.

In which cases does Gamstop share the information?

- When users register for the GAMSTOP service.
- When gambling operators check if their customers have self-excluded with GAMSTOP.
- To resolve queries from users or for the purposes of an operator’s responsible gambling obligations.
- When required by law or for legal claims.
- For research purposes, with user consent.
- If users consent to share their details with GamCare.

Why does Gamstop share the information?

- To provide the GAMSTOP service effectively.
- To ensure users who have self-excluded are not able to access gambling websites.
- To fulfill regulatory obligations and for the proper functioning of the GAMSTOP service.
- To improve the GAMSTOP service through research.
- To support individuals with gambling issues by connecting them with GamCare.
- To meet legal requirements or defend against legal claims.

 

[Webzcas]

Hmmmm, not happy about that, if that is indeed what they are doing. I think if anyone wants to kick gambling into touch, use BetBlocker on your devices. Which as it happens I am currently in the process of recording a video for the Casinomeister YouTube channel, to show how effective it actually is.

 

[Guntis]

Personally, i think their privacy page is not properly structured to present the info correctly. For example, near the top of their page, they say that they'll only share your personal data with independent researchers where they have your consent. Following that they say, we will only ever share your name and telephone number with GamCare where we have your consent.

But then, lower down the page is a headline 'WHO DO WE SHARE PERSONAL DATA WITH?' after which they list all the service providers, etc. So the question would be 'What is the personal data then in their view?'. It's quite unclear IMO.

 

[justdoit]

Personally, i think their privacy page is not properly structured to present the info correctly. For example, near the top of their page, they say that they'll only share your personal data with independent researchers where they have your consent. Following that they say, we will only ever share your name and telephone number with GamCare where we have your consent.

But then, lower down the page is a headline 'WHO DO WE SHARE PERSONAL DATA WITH?' after which they list all the service providers, etc. So the question would be 'What is the personal data then in their view?'. It's quite unclear IMO.

when my gamstop expired I ask for all data to remove, if you dont ask they can still use your data, they also told me they can keep your data for up to 5 years, in the end they agree to remove my data...I also ask way you sharing my data with banks and gp thy sad we share with 3rd party only lol god knows who is 3rd party

 

[justdoit]

Please inform me how gamstop got your GP details? I find this highly unbelievable even if they deemed you a serious suicide risk they would struggle to find these details.

join gamstop for 6month and you find out ?

 

[Slotter]

• If you do not contact us to remove your exclusion, your exclusion will remain in place for a further 7 years after the minimum exclusion period has expired.

 

[Guntis]

So apparently for one who's seeking to stop gambling for a bit, an optimal solution is getting BetBlocker set up for all devices, and then seeing an expert at a national help service - Gamcare.

Gamstop won't prevent one from accessing anything gambling related on the Internet, but BetBlocker will.

I'm not too sure about how BetBlocker works, but I think it has some kind of a keyword database that won't give the results back to the searcher, and there may be even casinomeister among

 

[Webzcas]

Do you not have to pay for Gamblock? Watch this space for the BetBlocker video. It is free and my word it is very effective!

 

[Guntis]

I actually meant Betblocker, not Gamblock. My mind sucks at times

P.S. Corrected: Gamblock to Betblocker in my previous message.

 

[bamberfishcake]

yes they do that I join gamstop on Covi19 time, my bank and GP call me, about gambling problem, wtf I ask who told you I got gambling problem they sad gamstop, they have rights to share your data with everyone include your employment,I join to have brake to see what is happen with covi19 fkerss they made so much drama about it, I gamble for 20+ years my worst experience is when I join gamstop..but is very easy trick to play on any UK casino when you are in gamstop, but you need to open new casino account

My point was that I found it strange that the UKGC makes a complete responsible gambling toolkit mandatory for all licenced casinos, but I could not find information on these facilities and their usefulness on GAMSTOP.or GAMCARE.

 

[justdoit]

My point was that I found it strange that the UKGC makes a complete responsible gambling toolkit mandatory for all licenced casinos, but I could not find information on these facilities and their usefulness on GAMSTOP.or GAMCARE.

gamstop for short time is no go 100% I think they more to long terms, is also stupid if ppl miss end date they will extend to 7 years more, is like forcing ppl to stay on gamstop

 

[bugalugz]

So, where do I start with Gamstop....read this carefully if you are thinking of signing up.

I signed up with them 5 years ago and since my exclusion ended (May last year), most operators act on the basis that I am still self excluded. I've had about six out and out declines to open new accounts and one operator applied a very small limit (£250 a month). I have found it is possible to re-open an account but after a lot of jumping through hoops; source of funds, means testing, etc. I don't actually have an issue with this as I have no problem with limits, providing P60s, etc.

The fundamental issue is that Gamstop will continue to advise operators that you were previously excluded for seven years after your exclusion ends, irrespective of how long you signed up for; e.g. 1 year=8 years. They will also store your data for a further seven years for research purposes. So in my case, my personal data will be stored for a total of 19 years. 12 of which is being openly shared with operators (5 of the original self exclusion plus 7 after it ended). I have asked for Gamstop to remove all personal data and withdrawn my consent for ongoing sharing of data and they have refused. They have simply cited their T & Cs and I believe this fundamentally goes against 'the right to be forgotten' from a GDPR perspective. I currently have a complaint outstanding with the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) but I am dubious that this will go anywhere.

Morally, I think Gamstop's behaviour is highly questionable. Appreciate we all go through rough patches with Gambling but ultimately it comes down to a choice. When an exclusion ends, we all have a choice to go back to gambling or to stop. I think Gamstop is a good tool for those that want to put Gambling behind them for good but you need to be very clear that any exclusion will come will a very heavy price if you are concerned about data sharing or want to use online services in the future. As others have said, think about Gamstop carefully if you want to give up.

My personal view is that the better approach to giving up is via counselling and layering (take away time, take up other hobbies, etc.) Gamstop is just a tool but for some, it is akin to using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

 

[slot_zombie]

Unfortunately Gamstop is effectively "for life", regardless of if you sign up for a short break, due to the way operators use the data to effectively blacklist anyone who was formerly on the service.

 

[Webzcas]

There are other tools available to you in addition to Gamstop, which actually can be more effective. Betblocker is one as mentioned above, but most banks I believe also enable you via their app to block all gambling transactions.

FWIW I signed up with Gamstop years ago and haven't even attempted to now remove the exclusion.

 

[Guntis]

Most UK banks allow blocking gambling transactions, but it's quite easy to unblock them. Monzo seems pretty decent because one needs to speak with customer support first to enable transactions that involve gambling. RBS allows you to turn them back after 48 hours. HSBC and Barclays after 72 hours. Starling is useless; you can simply toggle on and off.

For anyone interested, here is a condensed version of the

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UK Banks Offering Gambling Blocking Services​

Bank of Scotland​

Card Locking Feature: Specifically targets gambling transactions.

Barclays​

Debit Card Payment Block: Customers can block payments to gambling sites and apps via their banking app.

Halifax​

Support Tools: Includes financial tracking, personal support, advice, and access to Gamban licenses to block online gambling.

HSBC​

Gambling Restrictions on Debit Cards: Includes an option for a 'Cool Off Period', where lifted restrictions still prevent transactions until the period ends.

Lloyds Bank​

Transaction Freeze Options: Offers the ability to freeze/unfreeze transaction types, including access to Gamban.

MBNA​

Online Card Services: Helps track bills and spending.

Monzo​

Gambling Transaction Block: Requires interaction with customer support to turn off the block, ensuring a check on the customer's situation.

NatWest​

Card Locking Feature: Specifically for gambling transactions.

Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS)​

Card Locking Feature: Focused on gambling transactions.

Santander​

Transaction Type Block: Customers can block specific transactions without completely freezing their Mastercard.

Starling​

Online Payment Block: Includes the option to block gambling transactions via their banking app.

 

[justdoit]

After 3 month I join Gamstop Try some stupid fake casinos deposit 100 get 600 all other bs, I find a way how to open UKGC account, rest of 9 month I open 3 accounts on same group £1000 each casino limit with low RTP, 9 month of play they never find out I was in Gamstop, they paid me all time on time ,but end of the day was my risk I could easy lost all my deposit of £1000, I still have same accounts today not play much there, but same set up they still pay me right away, u need brake not join gamstop, join the gym or do something different, trying to give up for good join everything you find

 

[goatwack]

Loving how Gamstop was sold as a pro-player, intuitive and helpful gambling aid at release, only to discover that it is in fact a virtual tar & feather data collection mining ransomware ?

You'd think with it being slapped on most UK online casinos that it'd be somewhat more flexible, and perhaps less hostile to those wishing to take up any of their time-out options, with punters being able to resume gambling at their behest upon expiration of said Self-exclusions.

Amazing then, that it turns out to be little more than a database from which the UKGC and casinos can fulfil their quotas in identifying 'problem gamblers'

Still, for all its (many) faults, for my specific desire to cease UK-based online slotting, it certainly did the trick and saved me a tonne of money I'd have needlessly splurged on what is now 'anti-entertainment', so in that sense, a job well done!

 

[justdoit]

Selling Data is big money, many companies they do it and they dont care about privacy, DVLA is the one they make millions every year from are names

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