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What is going on at William Hill Online Casino?

Discussion in 'Online Casino and Poker Complaints - old section' started by spectra, Apr 13, 2005.

    Apr 13, 2005
  1. spectra

    spectra Dormant account

    Occupation:
    MiniMart Operator
    Location:
    Japan
    I have made a withdrawal request of around 30+ quids recently via wire transfer, 18th March 2005 to be precise, and up to today the money is still not credited into my UK bank account.

    I have reported the delay to ECash Direct UK whom are supposedly their payment services provider, but ECash replied and said that William Hill is no longer supported by them. And instead asked me to contact William Hill Customer Service directly.

    I started calling them but either no one is answering or got a recorded message that the number is no longer in service. My last resort was to write them e-mails with details of my withdrawal transaction (including a screen shot of the transaction from my online account statement), betting account number, login name, alias etc. Alas, all I have received are bunch of auto-reply messages saying that ....here is your reference number and they will be in contact shortly....and obviously no one ever call or reply my mails. :(

    It is either they are having some serious cash flow problem or their RTG system is beginning to rot and not honoring patrons withdrawal...You can deposit into the gaming account but if you win or strike a jackpot, don't dream about getting a penny back from them! It Sucks! Big time!

    Please...be warned! Stay away from William Hill.....at least until they have sort out all their problems.
     
  2. Apr 13, 2005
  3. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    William Hill is HUGE in the UK - so they don't have cashflow problems.
    Their casino is not RTG.
    It is true that they don't use E-cash any more - you must deal direct.
    For some reason that I can not begin to understand, their CS is non-existant/crap.
    My only suggestion is try all the e-mail addresses you can find & hope someone responds...
     
  4. Apr 13, 2005
  5. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    A player should not have to go through this sort of "jumping through hoops" in order to get some service/answers.

    I recommend just chill. I've popped them of an email to make them aware of this thread. A PAB would be better since I can get them to directly respond to that.
     
  6. Apr 13, 2005
  7. big_mac

    big_mac Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    student
    Location:
    uk
    I have found that they often take weeks to reply to emails.

    Their telephone support, however, is excellent. I just tried it and it was answered immediately.
    It is an international freephone number (the country code is 800), and some people do seem to be unable to access this.

    Their webpage does list a UK number to call on, if you can't get the freephone number to work, and they should call you back.
    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  8. Apr 13, 2005
  9. jpsartre

    jpsartre Dormant account

    Location:
    Denmark
    Yeah, forget about emailing them. By the time they answer the currency in UK will be Euro's, not GBP. Try calling them again. I've done so several times myself and I never had a problem getting through.
     
  10. Apr 13, 2005
  11. spectra

    spectra Dormant account

    Occupation:
    MiniMart Operator
    Location:
    Japan
    Thanks for the advice. I will try to contact them (again) through the International freephone number. Happy gaming!
     
  12. Apr 15, 2005
  13. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    WH CS is a JOKE


    Good luck on the phone. This place is a joke trying to get ahold of them via email. This is a response I recieved today...keep in mind I emailed them March 29th, and this email is only telling me that I have to wait LONGER for them to address my problem.

    I wouldn't doubt that this is an automated response either. I could just imagine trying to get a cashout via this place.

    Discussion Thread
    Response (Sibylle) 15/04/2005 12:28 PM
    Hi Brian,

    Thank you for your email.

    We endavour to respond as quick as possible but are sure that you appreciate the enormous amounts of contacts during the last period made it impossible for us to reply within the usual time scale.

    We therefore would like to invite you to confirm wether your problem is still ongoing.

    Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience caused.

    Thank you for choosing William Hill.


    Best wishes,

    William Hill
    Internet Customer Services
     
  14. Apr 18, 2005
  15. spectra

    spectra Dormant account

    Occupation:
    MiniMart Operator
    Location:
    Japan
    Finally managed to hooked up with a lady customer services representative (after 10 successive calls to their customer service hotline: 00 800 3551 3551)

    The lady picked up the call and have noted down all the necessary account details and said "I will check with the Finance people....the money should have been paid on 22 March 2005....there could be some problem at their end."

    That was last Wednesday (13/4/2005) and I checked my bank account today and the money is still not credited. Also, there is no mails from them even though she promised will send one out as soon as she talk to her "Finance people". Very obvious, they are just buying time and dragging their feet as long as they can for any payouts.

    Perhaps, they are having some serious system problem that is preventing them from releasing any payment.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2005
  16. Apr 18, 2005
  17. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    These guys are obviously too big for their britches. Sure, they may answer the phone, but their online support is abysmal. I would recommend that players avoid this casino and stick to the other Cryptos.
     
  18. Apr 18, 2005
  19. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount. webby PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    Bum
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    I agree 100%.

    I find it quite funny that they keep sending me promotion emails, but can't take 2 minutes out of their "busy" schedule to reply to my emails from almost a month ago.
     
  20. Apr 19, 2005
  21. largeeyes

    largeeyes Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    North America
    I've played here without a problem for months and really fast cashouts. I'm kinda dumbfounded by everyones problems.
     
  22. Apr 19, 2005
  23. mitch

    mitch Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Secret
    Location:
    UK
    I agree largeeyes. W.Hill is one of my favourite casinos. I like the way they award the monthly bonus, just log in and if you have the minimum already in your account, bonus awarded. :) No other casino can match this to my knowledge.

    Payouts are quick and you know you are dealing with a major PLC who aren't going bust anytime soon.

    Never had to use their CS because I have never had a problem.

    Mitch
     
  24. Apr 19, 2005
  25. Casinomeister

    Casinomeister Forum Cheermeister Staff Member

    Occupation:
    Homemaker
    Location:
    Bierland
    Great! Let's hope it stays that way :D

    I rarely have to contact a casino (on my behalf) via support. But responses to emails should be prompt - and I am not talking about auto-responders. W. Hill is merely on autopilot when it comes to their customer service. I would never recommend a casino to anyone if you have to pull teeth to get answers. There is no excuse for a company this size not to hire on more staff to take care of their clients.
     
  26. Apr 19, 2005
  27. trick

    trick Dormant account

    If their phone support is great (which I haven't tried) and their email sucks (which I know by personal experience) they should not offer email "support" at all!

    I stopped playing there half a year ago after at least 1 year of being a satisfied customer. But then I ran into a problem and experienced their mail "support". Since this was only for a small amunt I gave it up. Stopped playing, coz if they are troublesome with small amounts, I don't want to get in trouble with a big win.... :eek2:
     
  28. Apr 19, 2005
  29. spectra

    spectra Dormant account

    Occupation:
    MiniMart Operator
    Location:
    Japan
    Talked to them again today (this time round about 15 calls as line constantly engaged) and the guy said money possibly stuck at the bank as they said their Finance People has transfered the dosh to bank on 22/3/2005.

    I have communicated with the bank and will have to wait and see if they can trace the money from their holding account. Lets hope this is the end of the chronicle.
     
  30. Apr 19, 2005
  31. KasinoKing

    KasinoKing WebMeister & Slotaholic.. CAG MM PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    House-Husband and Casino Advisor
    Location:
    Bexhill on sea, England
    Totally agree with that!
    And I am very sorry for anyone who has problems.

    But I am also with Mitch & Largeeyes - been with Will Hill for 4-years. I do remember having to contact CS a long time ago, but don't remember any problem...

    Definitely the simplest casino to use and make profit from. :rolleyes:
    The size of their monthly bonus ($40) is the ONLY thing that makes them 2nd behind Intercasino.
    ;)
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2005
  32. Apr 19, 2005
  33. rayharold

    rayharold Dormant account

    I had a problem a few months ago with my Neteller transaction not getting through to the casino. I attempted all avenues of communication with the casino. Emails were not answered, live chat was not available, and the international phone number was not working. Finally, after almost a week, I was able to solicit Neteller to intervene on my behalf before the matter was resolved. Yes, they may be very prompt in payments, etc., etc., etc. However, I DO NOT TRUST them to be there for me if I have a problem. I take my business elsewhere!
     
  34. Apr 19, 2005
  35. chalupa

    chalupa Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Loaf
    Location:
    USA
    I haven't played William Hill for a while, but last I knew:

    WH bonuses have a huge disadvantage in that if you lose all your deposit before meeting the wagering requirements... those wagering requirements roll-over into the next month.

    So if you aggressively wager your bonus (as I do) you can quickly dig yourself a deep hole of wagering requirments, to the point where you'd be crazy to put any more of your own money in.

    Also, being primarily a sportsbook, their casino deposit/withdrawal procedure is not as smooth as Intercasino.

    Finally, I also experienced a bit of the wonderful customer "service" and haven't been back. :)
     
  36. Apr 19, 2005
  37. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    financail adviser
    Location:
    London, England
    Do all the cryptos wagering requirements "roll-over" or is it just Will Hill?
     
  38. Apr 19, 2005
  39. chalupa

    chalupa Experienced Member

    Occupation:
    Loaf
    Location:
    USA
    Hmm... now that I'm thinking about it, of all the Crypto casino accounts I have had, I think only Intercasino still has a deposit match bonus, so maybe it's the only one to compare to.

    But with Intercasion (and in the past with others who no longer have match bonuses), my experience is that the wagering requirements do not rollover -- IF you play games that are allowed for wagering requirements.

    One time I lost it all in an excluded game and the wagering requirements did roll over. The explanation from customer service was that I had lost it at an excluded game.

    One possible caveat for Intercasino -- I did notice this in the Intercasino terms earlier this month:

    I'm not sure if this is new or not. I deposited anyway and quickly lost my deposit and bonus. So I'll be able to tell you in early May whether losing it all still zeroes the wagering requirements. :) I'll report back then.
     
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2005

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