When I can play cards at a tribal casino? Lost my azz @ iNETBET tonight. Calmly took a drive after up the freeway a half hour and turned 1k into 12k over 5 hours playing blackjack. Screw this online gaming. These online slots are starting to mimic land based casinos with the RTP imo. Inetbet the casino "of 350-400 spins in exchange for 5-10x feature payout. Yes that is 350-400 spins each slot to slot if you jump around and often in between features! 700-800 spins before hitting 2nd feature is a common practice at Inetbet. You have no chance of winning without regularly hitting 500-1k times bet payouts. Thank you Snoqualmie cASINO.
What am I doing messing around with this online casino garbage
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I think the online slots are rigged.
now you're starting to come around..
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Just out of curiosity and stupidity (I know I'm going to regret asking this...)
If blackjack is your game of choice, why do you waste your time and money playing slots? Obviously, you are convinced that no matter where you play (online or landbased) that the RTP is rigged for slots. I'm no wiz at the percentages for RTP and RNG and all the other acronyms (where's dogboy?), but it would seem to me that if your luck is with cards then you stick with that.
Online gambling is nice for those who are homebound, it gives them the freedom of being able to play within the home at their leisure and having some fun. It's not for everyone granted (and quite obviously not for you).
So the next time you are tempted to make that deposit into an online casino...remember the great time you had playing at your local landbased casino, the great feeling of the win you had, and the rush of not having to come to casinomeister and once again expound about the unfair gaming experiences of rigged online gaming.
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Is there something wrong with my PC? I tried to read the above all it translated to in my head was an annoying buzzing sound.....
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I'm going to keep posting this link till 'someone' actually reads the damned article.... LOL
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Oh absolutely.
I have figured out, after almost 12 years playing online, that there is most definitely a house edge on slots. It is, now I think about it, very obvious and I don't know how I didn't spot it before.
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The thing is, reading it and doing it are two separate things. The lights and sounds are used to "brainwash" you into pushing the button. Watching the reels spin kind of mesmerises you into continuing until there is nothing left.
I think when AC and Vegas changed to the video slots, away from the actual feed the machine coins slots, it kind of killed the sensation, JMO. For those who can remember the excitement of hearing the coins dropping out of the machine and the lights and sirens screaming when a big win was hit, don't you miss it? It kind of fed the excitement of gambling. Oh, the good old days...
....best post of the week!
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It was exciting the minute you used to walk in the door, with coins jingling and hand-pays were more common. But I don't miss having filthy hands (we had tokens here in Ontario, they left your hands just black), machines running out of coins and waiting 20 mins for someone to come fill it for $3 or $4 left.
While I hated the slips at first, I think I've come to prefer them. I still find the casino exciting, and I no longer get a headache from the noise.
Dave, it's obvious that you don't enjoy your online play as much as some of us. At least at the B&Ms, the food is better.
While I hated the slips at first, I think I've come to prefer them. I still find the casino exciting, and I no longer get a headache from the noise.
Dave, it's obvious that you don't enjoy your online play as much as some of us. At least at the B&Ms, the food is better.
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Washington State Casinos Rock! I have MUCH more success with my money at the land casinos here! And there are 3 within 15 minutes from me and about 5 others with 30-90 mins! So...
I only play slots and 98%(most) of the time I walk out a little ahead or ALOT ahead!
I know online works for some of you, but it just hasn't been that exciting for me....
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* Hate the smoke
* Hate the neighbors who want to chat and ooh and ahh at what I am doing
* Hate fighting with the bill acceptors that don't want my money because its too new or crimped or someone marked on it
* Hate the airplane drive
* Hate having to go scout for my favorite machines because they got moved and getting the response "not sure -- you know they move them all the time" DUH!
* Hate waiting for a slot attendant because my players card is not working. Light is on but no points being recorded.
*Hate having to track down my host to complain about what isn't working right
* Hate people looking over your shoulder as you cash out the ticket for winning (doesn't happen often enough)
FWIW,
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You won 11k at BJ so dunno why you would spend more than 2k at the slots back home. Almost all of the rtg slots are high variance so it is possible you wont get a feature for 500 spins though I have often seen back-to back features. Even when there is a description of MEDIUM volatility for a particular slot it is misleading because you will chase forever to get a feature and even then it might not pay well. Inetbet is never happy when you quote low rtp at their slots so I am amazed they havent responded yet. That said, never trust rtg slots to pay well over a small number of spins. Heck even for relatively low variance slots like derby dollar, diamond dozen and paradise dreams you need to endure more than 500 spins without getting a feature and it usually pays less than 30x.
Honestly Dave, you are a glutton for punishment. You know well that you will get bitten by rtg slots yet you play at every opportunity and at quite high stakes too. Dont tell me you are out to prove something. Not worth risking your dough imho.
"If blackjack is your game of choice, why do you waste your time and money playing slots?"
Because I'm stupid that's why. I got sucked into the rigged wins.
"Obviously, you are convinced that no matter where you play (online or landbased) that the RTP is rigged for slots."
I never said that. Land based slot machines are regulated so at least you know you're getting a fair game. Online casinos have live human operators monitoring activity, triggering features, and retriggers. It was hilarious the other day playing realms of riches at Inetbet. Went nearly 700 spins without a feature then conveniently received two shields on reel one and two than three then four then five.
Well for one there appears to be no live chat. Two, no one responds to my emails. Three all I ever receive from Inetbet are emails from that James dude.
500? You are just throwing your money away then. Rarely occurs at Club World Casinos. I picked up on Inetbets gig the first night.
What's going on with the platform lately?, the reels sometimes spin for 30 seconds or more. Lately this has been a losing signal. If this happens to any of you exit the slot immediately and try another or shut down and come back later. Chuchu I have expressed my disgust over these high spin issues to live chat at other casinos. It's amazin g what happens. I will then hit 4 out of 200 spins. This is after you get the cut and paste, we are tested by third party mumbo jumbo.
where you from? I'd avoid Snoq Casino slots they are tight as hell. One time I played Coyote Moon or Grey Wolf on the 5c machine there though betting 400 credits. Hit for 1,250 triggering a 1099. Started with 1k LOL. Nothing like paying taxes for winning your money back. I thought about it later, still better than losing the $1k.
It's always The Thunder From Down Under types baiting on this board. Not going to bite though. I am hoping Max reinstates my Thanks button. I thanked a guy for speaking his mind once and paid for it by losing the privelige. Awful long time now..
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//derail//
I go about four hours to visit my favourite B&M, Casino Rama. It's the only native run casino in the province. There is one other on reserve land, but it's a Charity Casino under the auspices of the OLG (Ontario Lottery and Gaming). Food is fabulous, they are generous with comps. No free booze anywhere in Ontario the Good. Great theatre too, they get big name acts through.
//end of derail//
That said, the slots don't pay well. But they don't at the other casinos, and it's hard to get a free lunch even, especially at the one closest to me (around 20 mins).
I've actually did okay at Inetbet lately. I won on a freechip, redeposited it, ran $28 without a deposit to over two hundred, more than once after losing quite a bit of it, and then tanked it. Greedy me. But the good news is I won a little on another free chip.
I won't usually stay more than 100 spins on a game without a feature. While there weren't any huge hits, I often hit a couple of features within 100 spins.
Pity I caught all your luck betting 20 cents to $1.25. Three Stooges killed me.
I go about four hours to visit my favourite B&M, Casino Rama. It's the only native run casino in the province. There is one other on reserve land, but it's a Charity Casino under the auspices of the OLG (Ontario Lottery and Gaming). Food is fabulous, they are generous with comps. No free booze anywhere in Ontario the Good. Great theatre too, they get big name acts through.
//end of derail//
That said, the slots don't pay well. But they don't at the other casinos, and it's hard to get a free lunch even, especially at the one closest to me (around 20 mins).
I've actually did okay at Inetbet lately. I won on a freechip, redeposited it, ran $28 without a deposit to over two hundred, more than once after losing quite a bit of it, and then tanked it. Greedy me. But the good news is I won a little on another free chip.
I won't usually stay more than 100 spins on a game without a feature. While there weren't any huge hits, I often hit a couple of features within 100 spins.
Pity I caught all your luck betting 20 cents to $1.25. Three Stooges killed me.
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[Quote by Jasminebed:]
I won't usually stay more than 100 spins on a game without a feature. While there weren't any huge hits, I often hit a couple of features within 100 spins.[End of quote]
I hear you, Jazzy. I do not understand players that stay on a "cold" slot for 200 or 300 hundred spins or more when they are not hitting decent. If they are cold, try another slot!!! I feel I waste money playing so many spins on one game, if it is not at least staying steady with my beginning amount. I can build comp points like that but if it isn't paying squat...MOVE ON!!!
And that's what I think.
I won't usually stay more than 100 spins on a game without a feature. While there weren't any huge hits, I often hit a couple of features within 100 spins.[End of quote]
I hear you, Jazzy. I do not understand players that stay on a "cold" slot for 200 or 300 hundred spins or more when they are not hitting decent. If they are cold, try another slot!!! I feel I waste money playing so many spins on one game, if it is not at least staying steady with my beginning amount. I can build comp points like that but if it isn't paying squat...MOVE ON!!!
And that's what I think.
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Well if they were random it would be OK, but since they are rigged it makes sense to move on if they aren't paying
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I am in North Tacoma. I do very well at Fife Emerald Queen. I am close to both EQ's, BJ's(do pretty good at these also) and MuckleShoot!
I have heard about the super tight slots at Snoq.
Congratulations on the big win on the table games.
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I am not stating they are rigged, I am stating that when you can't win on spin after spin, it would be better to move on than keep watching those non paying spins. I understand that they are random, but that does not negate the fact that sometimes they are on the no pay side of the RTP machine. That is just my opinion, of course.
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Every gambler thinks differently. Some exit after 100-200 spins if the slot is cold whereas others think that since it hasnt hit it should sometime soon as long as you are persistent. There is no surefire formula but I have reservations on the true randomness as preached to us by the operators. If you hit something decent on a certain slot you are sure to hit a bad patch at the same slot when you visit it next. If it were truly random you canencounter anything but almost certainly not 400-500 spins without a feature and lower than 60% rtp. I am also sceptical of what they say ie 'the rng has no memory' based on the results of my play. No evidence to back it up but it does seem to be a far cry from randomness as I know it.
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You really believe that there is a human monitoring each persons play in real time and deciding when a feature should trigger?
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You really believe that there is a human monitoring each persons play in real time and deciding when a feature should trigger?
He has to blame his losses on something ...
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daveboz;441928I never said that. Land based slot machines are regulated so at least you know you're getting a fair game. Online casinos have live human operators monitoring activity said:
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Casinos... whether online or B&M .. are not built on winners. The profit for the casinos is in the house edge settings. A specific machine set at 95% will not necessarily pay back 95% per session ... or even, over the lifetime of any particular player, but will pay back 95% over the life of the machine or game. Even if a machine pays back 95% when you play, you've still lost.
I sat down at a 3 reeler machine, ran $100 thru, with very, very few hits. I stood up, minus my $100, turned to a bank of machines behind me, put money in without taking time to sit, and heard *dingdingding* ... A guy had sat down at the machine that had just raped me, and he cashed out $1000+ after only a couple of spins. And no, I don't think there was a little gremlin inside the machine determining who would win and who wouldn't. It's gambling.
We really should have a good link somewhere on how slots work... I've gotta run and can't find one right off the bat.
and let me say this before I exit this horsebeater... video slots (in general) have the worst payout percentages of the slots. 3 reelers are generally better and won't lure you into betting $1 per 40 lines chasing a hit. Video poker is next as to losing more slowly. Then we move up to BJ (like VP, that's IF you know the proper strategy)... and poker.
If a person doesn't like to lose money, stay away from the stock market and gambling. Poke me with a fork, I'm done here.
I sat down at a 3 reeler machine, ran $100 thru, with very, very few hits. I stood up, minus my $100, turned to a bank of machines behind me, put money in without taking time to sit, and heard *dingdingding* ... A guy had sat down at the machine that had just raped me, and he cashed out $1000+ after only a couple of spins. And no, I don't think there was a little gremlin inside the machine determining who would win and who wouldn't. It's gambling.
We really should have a good link somewhere on how slots work... I've gotta run and can't find one right off the bat.
and let me say this before I exit this horsebeater... video slots (in general) have the worst payout percentages of the slots. 3 reelers are generally better and won't lure you into betting $1 per 40 lines chasing a hit. Video poker is next as to losing more slowly. Then we move up to BJ (like VP, that's IF you know the proper strategy)... and poker.
If a person doesn't like to lose money, stay away from the stock market and gambling. Poke me with a fork, I'm done here.
Well they must have been listening. How does one turn $17.50 in comp points into $1,000? LOL. Total BS. They gave back my deposit from last night. Taking the wire and running far away from RTG.
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