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Watch out for Ken Chan's poker scam

Discussion in 'Poker Complaints' started by drhuynh, Apr 27, 2006.

    Apr 27, 2006
  1. drhuynh

    drhuynh Dormant account

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    Ken Chan's Casino Scam
    I have seen a wave of new scam that been around on the Internet the last couple months selling ebook showing readers ways to cheat at online casino and poker sites. One of the most popular scams of this type is the Ken Chan's poker scam. One of his sites is:

    You must register/login in order to see the link..

    Just like other "how-to-get-rich" scams, Ken Chan casts himself as a network security expert and has found ways to exploit casino systems. He sells his techniques for a $60 ebook. Unfortunately for anybody falling into this scam, his book is full of non-sense and makes me wondering his credentials of a network security expert.

    Here is what you will learn from the Ken Chan's ebook:

    1-Ken suggests you to team up with some of your buddies to sit on the same poker table. This way, you can have an advantage of knowing more cards, therefore having a better picture of the game.
    -- I guess anybody playing online poker can think of this trick. However, online poker sites have developed many sophisticated ways to detect this (from playing style analysis to IP collision,...). Even though there are many ways to circumvent the technique used by poker operators, it still requires a sophisticated knowledge of poker and software security. Unfortunately, none of which are discussed by Ken Chan but non-sense blah blah.

    2-Poker Pot
    -- While poker pot is a real threat but it also has its limit. The poker bot is as good as its algorithm. But using Poker bot also exposes a risk if being detected by the casino sites and have the poker account closed. Many poker clients do a scanning on your machine of the existent of poker bots. However, if you are a programmer, and wants to challenge yourself with writting a poker bot. You can take a look at winholdem, Gold Bullion (source code included), Poki Poker as a started learning point. However in Ken's book, all he want is scamming the readers to buy his poker bot (yes, more money) which is a sucky and buggy pot. Chan offer nothing about the inside information of developing a bot (which can be an interested subject of computer science)

    3-Seeing the hole cards.
    -- Ken Chan claims that you can see your opponents' hole cards by hacking them. And after succesfully hacking, Ken suggests you to install VNC (a remote PC controlling program) on your opponents machines so you can see their screens from your machine. However, he stops short at how you can hack into your opponent's machine. Hacking is not easy, especially nowadays with most machines are firewall-ready. Ken doesn't offer anything about how to hack since he himself does not know how. And if you are
    interested into hacking itself, picking a hacking related book like "Hacking Exposed" is the way. Overally, his promise of seeing the hole cards is full of $hit.

    Ken Chan is neither a poker "know-how" or a network security expert. He is a scammer. Watch out for these types of scams since you will
    see them more in the future as the online gambling industry growing.

    If you interested in Ken's scam book and don't want to pay $60. It is available in many P2P network.
     
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  2. Apr 28, 2006
  3. Geoff Hall

    Geoff Hall Dormant account

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    The latest scam going around is the one whereby the 'scam artist' states that you can change your hole cards to anything you want on Party Poker.

    The demo' that you can try (not that I have tried it) allows you to choose any hole cards and watch them change on the screen. The demo' mode automatically folds your hand (how convenient !).

    It states that if you purchase the full working model then you will be able to change your cards without the hand being folded. The cost of the full version is over $300.

    Of course, all that the demo program does is to change your card images.
     
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  4. Apr 28, 2006
  5. nafanny29

    nafanny29 Dormant account

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    Thats too funny Geoff :lolup: :lolup:

    And the sad thing is that people buy this stuff. I can imagine their first hand on party. Flop 367 so they "change" their hole cards to 4 and 5. They then proceed to bet the arse out of the turn and river only to lose to AA and realise theyve been had all along.
     
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  6. Apr 30, 2006
  7. thecoder98040

    thecoder98040 Dormant account

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    A tip for the future: If its to good to be true...it probably is
     
  8. May 2, 2006
  9. A23456789TJQK

    A23456789TJQK Dormant account

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    I bought the book from him before
    he had a full refund back then
    which i took and he duly honoured

    caveat emptor
    there's nothing wrong wit it really as long as you follow your terms.
     
  10. May 4, 2006
  11. liquidsoap

    liquidsoap Dormant account

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    Not trying to be mean but drhuynh did you buy ken chan's poker book????
     
  12. May 6, 2006
  13. The Watchdog

    The Watchdog Dormant account

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    jajaja

    I hope he didn't...

    Come on guys... if you are a serious poker player and you play at big sites don't try to cheat.. these guys are not kidding with their customers' funds./


    This guy Ken Chan probably is a 14 year old with por player ilussions.
     
  14. Jun 20, 2006
  15. BigPoppa

    BigPoppa Dormant account

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    I want anyone trying to cheat to get cheated themselves.

    Cheaters losing money to a scammer is just fine with me.
     
  16. Jul 7, 2006
  17. MarcW10

    MarcW10 Dormant account

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    Quoted for truth.
     
  18. Dec 16, 2006
  19. Thorn

    Thorn Dormant account

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    Here or over there...
    Just a note about the poker bot pro that this guy tries to get you to buy.

    I bought that poker bot the guy advertises for $200 USD not too long ago and have been trying to get a refund for almost 2 months now. It originally only worked at ultimate bet but then eventually worked at victory poker. I made play money at ultimate bet but lost real money and at victory poker I just lost my entire bankroll in that account over a period of a few days. DO NOT BUY THE POKER BOT PRO, THEY DO NOT HONOR THEIR REFUNDS AND THE PRODUCT DOES NOT WORK AS IT IS ADVERTISED TO (yes it is a working bot and automatically plays for you but in doing so makes you gradually lose).
    Cheers and I hope I saved someone some time, money and aggravtion with the above,
    -Roger B.
     
  20. Dec 26, 2006
  21. zman

    zman Dormant account

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    Funny a cheater got cheated :rolleyes:
     
  22. Dec 27, 2006
  23. lnspin

    lnspin Senior Member webmeister

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    I mean you dont deserve your money back , you bought the bot to cheat other players out of there money , and now it does not work and you want your money back ,

    You and all cheaters deserve to lose all of your money
     
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  24. Dec 27, 2006
  25. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    I'm sorry, but I have to agree, and I hope it "gradually" made you lose lots of money. Wish I was there.


    I compare this to these court shows on TV. Both parties go in with dirty hands, and the judge slams them both, and hard - then sends them both packing with nothing.

    Learn your $200 lesson, and move on.

    If you want to make money playing poker, buy a book. Watch a video. Watch WSOP on TV. Play in freerolls. IE: Learn, just like everyone else.
     
  26. Jan 3, 2007
  27. Thorn

    Thorn Dormant account

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    thanks for being hard on me guys :rolleyes: I got my money back after 3 months and constantly annoying the company that processes the poker bot pro merchants transactions. I have been playing poker for a few years now and am a pretty seasoned player (not a proffesional by any means but prety good)...as in moslty make profit when I play.

    I personally do not see how it is chaeting when all I did was try to keep up with the already infatuated poker world of bots. There are bots that I know work and I do not use them...why......because I find live poker much more interesting and profitable than any poker offered online.
    Another thing you have to realize is that poker bots are relatively simple devices that just play as the player would FOR the player...however you are restricted to low to medium stakes as good live players will adapt their strategy to beat the bot and win anyway...bad players will lose against good players anyway (your bot assuming YOU are a good player your bot will be "good" if you are a BAD players your bot will most likely fail...this applies to quality programmable bots only...unlike mine).

    I don't consider it cheating I just consider it automated poker...if you wish to trust a machine that is your choice...some will work others like mine will not. The bottom line is that casinoes/poker rooms WILL find you if you play long enough and consistantly win with a bot and since bots are considered cheating in most online casinoes you WILL lose all of your funds or will have a tough time getting them out.
    Cheers,
    -RB
     
  28. Jan 16, 2007
  29. jefoss

    jefoss Dormant account

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    too right!

    and then he goes on to claim to be a seasoned player!!! is he for real?
     
  30. Jan 16, 2007
  31. winbig

    winbig Keep winning this amount.

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    If you're such a "seasoned" player, and "prety" good, then why need a bot?

    Also, why do you think EVERY poker room has a clause in their T&C that bans bots? That should have given you a clue right there.

    All in all, you shouldn't have gotten your money back. Consider yourself lucky.
     

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