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[jas2587]

Funny I googled the fax number an came up with this


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isnt it funny no porn sites etc etc etc or Pull your hook back in as I went to both of these sites an neither has wanna bets fax Number


Roanan an affilate must have done you very wrong you have been on a crude rampage against affilates of late here an something is just not right with it all



GamblersGoWildCindy

feel free to attack away I can take it as well as you dish it

you have to remember we are just starting an of course we are going to have a few bumps here an there we are under construction Thank You




does not have the fax # that wannabet has BGI Print Solutions in Newark, DE as well as the Delaware Amateur Racquetball Association

what are you trying for watchdog of the year award?

thanks for the neg. rep how is this {{{ Posting false information and flaming}}}} I got it off google

Cindy

 

[jod5413]

Wow GamblersGoWildCindy,

I thought I was about the only gal to get neg reps! You, Too? I feel ever so much better.

Like your handle there, too!

 

[kakata]

FWIW, I looked into the software provider as well.

Can you say ALARM BELLS?


First of all, their website states:

Gaming Right Media is the most advanced & profitable sportsbook and casino gaming solution available.

yet they're less than a year old and only have one client.


In addition, a trace of their IP address shows MANY web sites there, most notably:

thenazcaplainscorp.com (gay S&M publisher)
fororepublicano.com (subversive Argentinian group)
fuck-my-cunt.com
fuck-my-wife.org
get-fucked-tonight.com

and my favorite: blow-job-ninja.com

plus lots more amateur porn sites along with other crap.


"...M-I-C
K-E-Y
M-O-U-S-E..."

Id tell my wife to subscibe to one of "those" sites...we might both be lucky....
in a different way tho.

 

[anniemac]

You are so bad!

 

[Nifty29]

I cant believe someone would neg rep Cindy for 'posting false information' - it came from GOOGLE - maybe they are employing people to make stuff up on their own search engine.

As for 'flaming'......come on. The only remark one could possible consider at all provocative was 'watchdog of the year'. It is hardly an insult, and it certainly doesnt contain foul language or any mention of race, mental capacity etc.

That person should have put forward an intelligent argument rather than 'neg rep and run'.

Reserve neg repping for clowns and fraudsters who really deserve it eh?

 

[Dangerous53]

I googled that phone number with dashes, periods, spaces, as a string, and every other combination and all I got was info for Wannabet.

I did find a reference to the original registrant here: Link Removed (invalid URL)

Registrant:
Sabana Investments & Trade
280 Nelson St
Vancouver, BC V6B 2E2
Canada

Domain Name: WANNABET.COM
Created on: 07-Mar-00
Expires on: 07-Mar-13
Last Updated on: 28-Jun-09

Administrative Contact:
Anam, Leigh
Sabana Investments & Trade
280 Nelson St
Vancouver, BC V6B 2E2
Canada
6044849505 Fax --

Technical Contact:
Anam, Leigh
Sabana Investments & Trade
280 Nelson St
Vancouver, BC V6B 2E2
Canada
6044849505 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
NS10.DNSMADEEASY.COM
NS11.DNSMADEEASY.COM
NS12.DNSMADEEASY.COM
NS13.DNSMADEEASY.COM
NS14.DNSMADEEASY.COM
NS15.DNSMADEEASY.COM

Their IP is 200.46.109.120, which is located in Panama. It is not a shared IP, and it is blacklisted on two lists.

Wannabet and Eldorado Palace (and a whole lot more sites) come up in a traceroute list for 200.46.109 --> 200.46.108.0/22, but it doesn't necessarily mean the two are related.

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This IP is in Panama, and that should be enough of a red flag IMO.

 

[vinylweatherman]

The IP address points to a server addressable from anywhere on the internet. Depending upon the capacity of said server, and size of the webdomains contained on it, a single IP address (or server) can hold a large number of websites.

The content of the websites at a particular IP address are an indication of the types of webmasters that obtain hosting on that particular server. Having a load of porn sites on a server indicates the hosting company doesn't care much about morals, and has an "anything goes" attitude to the content they are prepared to host. They could either be very cheap (not caring), or very EXPENSIVE (because they are prepared to host sites that most hosting services will turn down).

A decent sized business would NOT want to share web hosting with a bunch of porn sites, and any legitimate business that does, is probably using a cheap or free hosting service of the "don't check, don't care" persuasion; no doubt knowing the connection will NOT be found by the average user. This is NOT "premium" casino software, it is brash, new, and probably pretty cheap casino software, and from a start-up company with little money to fund expensive dedicated servers, fancy offices, etc; nor even the costs of full third party RNG and fairness tests. In effect, the software is being beta tested by launching a casino to the playing public.

With a year of operation so far, and the only obvious "lies" being of the form "we are the best/no 1/ etc" that pretty much EVERY company has on their website, this is more a case of "proceed with care", and keeping an eye out for signs of problems developing. Teething troubles should have appeared in the first months of operation, so whatever happens now, it should NOT be for the worse, unless things have taken a turn for the worse.

This time, Roanan has posted results, not the "working out". As my teacher once said, "I want to see the working out, not just the answer".

Can we trust the results of DNS and reverse DNS lookup? These are the basis for such findings, without the "working out", no-one can peer review the results, perhaps by trying the process themselves, or seeing whether they are the same with other DNS look up services (they should be if all are accurate).

Perhaps we need to know more about how casinos are hosted, such as do "server farms" hold more than one online casino on a single server and IP address, and if so, would they have to be from the same group, or could they be from any group.

If it turns out that server farms host more than one casino per server and IP address, it would mean that evidence of shared IP addresses does not necessarily mean the casinos are connected.

Casinos have argued in the past that shared IP addresses from PLAYERS proves that both (or more) accounts have been created by the same player or household. I argued it did NOT, and we should consider the possibility that the sheer size of servers (in terms of storage and processing), could allow more than one SUBSTANTIAL application to be hosted on it, and have the same IP address. This is certainly the case for websites, and this has been shown in Roanan's evidence, several porn sites, and one casino software supplier's website, all at the same IP address.

Casino operators and software vendors need to realise that this depth of research IS being undertaken by educated players and webmasters, and should do it for themselves on their own products before they go live, to ensure there is no damaging information being returned from such searches.

 

[mrsbuda]

WANNABET IS A GREAT CASINO. I AM CURRENTLY A CUSTOMER THERE. I LIKE THE GAMES AND BONUSES THEY OFFER ME. EVERY MONDAY I GET A BONUS EVEN IF I DON'T DEPOSIT, AND I GET ALOT OF PLAYTIME THERE WHICH IS ALOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT MOST CASINOS THESE DAYS.CRAIG ( THE REP.) HAS BEEN VERY FRIENDLY, NICE AND ON THE UP AND UP WITH ME.THE SUPPORT PEOPLE ARE WONDERFUL AND FRIENDLY.I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH WANNABET CASINO.I WISHED OTHER CASINOS WOULD BE MORE LIKE WANNABET FROM GAMES,SUPPORT AND REPS.WANNABET KNOWS HOW TO TREAT THEIR CUSTOMERS RIGHT.AND I LIKE THAT ALOT.THE GAMES AT WANNABET AREN'T " TIGHT" LIKE AT OTHER CASINOS.I LIKE THAT ALOT TOO. OTHER CASINOS CAN LEARN A LESSON FROM WANNABET CASINO. THANK YOU, CONNIE-MRSBUDA1

 

[kakata]

...we are not deaf tho....

 

[Pinababy69]

I googled that phone number with dashes, periods, spaces, as a string, and every other combination and all I got was info for Wannabet.

Their IP is 200.46.109.120, which is located in Panama. It is not a shared IP, and it is blacklisted on two lists.

Wannabet and Eldorado Palace (and a whole lot more sites) come up in a traceroute list for 200.46.109 --> 200.46.108.0/22, but it doesn't necessarily mean the two are related.

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This IP is in Panama, and that should be enough of a red flag IMO.

I found exactly the same things that Dangerous did. And yes, Panama is a big red flag for me. Related to Eldorado Palace? Who knows? Very well could be a coincidence.

But a casino that has been in operation for only a few months, with no proven track record to fall back on...and not much info to follow up on..is going to draw speculation. As does the software in this case as well. Zero info available on it/them.

A decent sized business would NOT want to share web hosting with a bunch of porn sites, and any legitimate business that does, is probably using a cheap or free hosting service of the "don't check, don't care" persuasion; no doubt knowing the connection will NOT be found by the average user. This is NOT "premium" casino software, it is brash, new, and probably pretty cheap casino software, and from a start-up company with little money to fund expensive dedicated servers, fancy offices, etc; nor even the costs of full third party RNG and fairness tests. In effect, the software is being beta tested by launching a casino to the playing public.

With a year of operation so far, and the only obvious "lies" being of the form "we are the best/no 1/ etc" that pretty much EVERY company has on their website, this is more a case of "proceed with care", and keeping an eye out for signs of problems developing. Teething troubles should have appeared in the first months of operation, so whatever happens now, it should NOT be for the worse, unless things have taken a turn for the worse.

This time, Roanan has posted results, not the "working out". As my teacher once said, "I want to see the working out, not just the answer".

That's one of the red flags VWM. A new and unproven software, that touts itself as the "best"...yet, as you stated....no mention of RNG testing, audits, etc.

Roanan may have only posted the results, and not how he got there. But anyone wanting to spend the time can get to pretty much the same place. There are a ton of websites hosted at the same IP...not all of them pretty.

And I even googled Craig Taylor, and all I could come up with was info from his LinkedIn page...stating that he use to work at Bodog for a year and a half previously (a few years ago).

So why not introduce himself here..why go around to lesser forums trying to gather customers? And handing out freebies?

This is NOT directed at Laurie/Jas..because it's an industry wide affiliate thing. But...affiliates are far too quick to jump and throw up banners for any new casino that opens up, based on a couple of phone calls, or because the website next door advertises them. New casinos are not made to prove themselves, before every affiliate on the net is advertising for them.

And Jas I'm sorry...but I'd rather have ten more Watchdogs of the Year, than ten more affiliates. I wish everyone cared enough to google and search up things, the way Roanan does. Even if he is a little abrupt, and short with people. I'll deal with facts over niceties, anyday.

I'll be curious to see where Wannabet is one year from now. If they are all good, and no complaints, and no payment problems, etc....it will be interesting to revisit this thread.

 

[funeral979]

Hi,

I have playing @ wannabet since January. I love this site.

I have had numerous email exchanges with Criag.

He has always replied promptly.

I find him to be very generous, courteous ,friendly & experienced in the casino biz.

Actually this is one of the few sites that gives players a weekly bonus (based on deposits) without having to ask.They actually send you an email advising you of the bonus in your account.

I had not any any problems depositing. I have had the opportunity to withdraw a few times. However, I chose to keep on playing...lol

Generally the playthrough is 10x which is very generous.

Before the idiotic law passed banning most online gambling, I had over 100 accounts.I am not new to online gambling.

It has been awhile since I have found a site that actually seems to care about what the customer thinks. I also find generally I get play for my pay.

This more than I can say about other sites.
wannabet is one of my favorite sites.

I base this on my dealings with Craig directly. What a pleasure to feel a casino sites actually gives a damn about me.

I say give them a try. I do not think you will be disappointed.

WANNABET IS A GREAT CASINO. I AM CURRENTLY A CUSTOMER THERE. I LIKE THE GAMES AND BONUSES THEY OFFER ME. EVERY MONDAY I GET A BONUS EVEN IF I DON'T DEPOSIT, AND I GET ALOT OF PLAYTIME THERE WHICH IS ALOT MORE THAN I CAN SAY ABOUT MOST CASINOS THESE DAYS.CRAIG ( THE REP.) HAS BEEN VERY FRIENDLY, NICE AND ON THE UP AND UP WITH ME.THE SUPPORT PEOPLE ARE WONDERFUL AND FRIENDLY.I HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH WANNABET CASINO.I WISHED OTHER CASINOS WOULD BE MORE LIKE WANNABET FROM GAMES,SUPPORT AND REPS.WANNABET KNOWS HOW TO TREAT THEIR CUSTOMERS RIGHT.AND I LIKE THAT ALOT.THE GAMES AT WANNABET AREN'T " TIGHT" LIKE AT OTHER CASINOS.I LIKE THAT ALOT TOO. OTHER CASINOS CAN LEARN A LESSON FROM WANNABET CASINO. THANK YOU, CONNIE-MRSBUDA1

OK im convinced.....im going to run right out and deposit

Is this Craig guy ever going to show up here?

 

[LaurieJim]

Craig had some problems with his old CM account and Max has just fixed it so he can post, i believe he will be able to shed some light on these concerns that CM members have stated in this thread

Laurie

 

[WannaBet Casino]

Although the management of WannaBet has been involved in this industry since 1996 in various operational and managerial roles, in a number of casinos, we understand that bringing a new brand into the public's eye will invariably lead people to pull out their magnifying glasses. We welcome it!

That being said, we've found that engaging in anything that can be construed as an argument in a public forum inevitably ends up leading to seemingly endless debate and is, more often than not, a terrible waste of time. For the record, our official position regarding the allegations in this thread is that they are baseless and unequivocally false but we will not spend the time to defend each and every one individually.

We will however invite anyone who is a member at WannaBet to make a withdrawal request at any time. They will experience a quick and efficient payout and we look forward to them posting their positive experiences not only here but also elsewhere.

Our experience has shown us that the reputation of a new casino brand can only be established over time, and we understand that. We also know that our commitment to overall customer service will be a reflection of our reputation much more than words in a forum post could be, and look forward to showing the industry instead of just telling you that.

That is our final word on this matter.

Thank you,
Craig Taylor

 

[Deeplay]

The content of the websites at a particular IP address are an indication of the types of webmasters that obtain hosting on that particular server. Having a load of porn sites on a server indicates the hosting company doesn't care much about morals, and has an "anything goes" attitude to the content they are prepared to host. They could either be very cheap (not caring), or very EXPENSIVE (because they are prepared to host sites that most hosting services will turn down).

A decent sized business would NOT want to share web hosting with a bunch of porn sites, and any legitimate business that does, is probably using a cheap or free hosting service of the "don't check, don't care" persuasion; no doubt knowing the connection will NOT be found by the average user. This is NOT "premium" casino software, it is brash, new, and probably pretty cheap casino software, and from a start-up company with little money to fund expensive dedicated servers, fancy offices, etc; nor even the costs of full third party RNG and fairness tests. In effect, the software is being beta tested by launching a casino to the playing public.


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On the issue of prOn sites no adult site vendor would think of hosting on a virtual server, and trust me (I know about this) they are plenty of webhosts dedicated to servicing the adult industry , all well known and well respected within that industry. Server farms - i think you mean virtual servers where a bunch of domains are hosted from 1 box, yes it can happen that a main stream biz can be hosted on the same box as sites that maybe they would not want to be related to. But god knows why - dedicated hosting is so damn cheap these days there really is ZERO reason for any business small or large to host on a virtual. Dedicated systems start at a few 100 USD or less even. I know a number of operators in the adult biz who made the switch into gaming or promote casinos in some way or other from none pRon sites which might be hosted on there own box which does contain some of those naughty nasty sites

Not sure about the moral issue - but then im biased but on the issue

 

[chuchu59]

Although the management of WannaBet has been involved in this industry since 1996 in various operational and managerial roles, in a number of casinos, we understand that bringing a new brand into the public's eye will invariably lead people to pull out their magnifying glasses. We welcome it!

That being said, we've found that engaging in anything that can be construed as an argument in a public forum inevitably ends up leading to seemingly endless debate and is, more often than not, a terrible waste of time. For the record, our official position regarding the allegations in this thread is that they are baseless and unequivocally false but we will not spend the time to defend each and every one individually.

We will however invite anyone who is a member at WannaBet to make a withdrawal request at any time. They will experience a quick and efficient payout and we look forward to them posting their positive experiences not only here but also elsewhere.

Our experience has shown us that the reputation of a new casino brand can only be established over time, and we understand that. We also know that our commitment to overall customer service will be a reflection of our reputation much more than words in a forum post could be, and look forward to showing the industry instead of just telling you that.

That is our final word on this matter.

Thank you,
Craig Taylor

Welcome to the forum Craig. I am also heartened by your assurance that everyone will be paid timely. I also understand why you do not wish to start debating on every issue listed in this thread. However, since we are all online gaming enthusiasts, I believe you should at least let us know more about the software especially the RNG. There is little about this on your site and if you are intent on boosting the reputation of the casino this is one of the things you must explain in more depth. Otherwise, why should players patronise your casino/software when they have very reliable casinos using well and truly-tested software to play at?

 

[incrediblestuff]

i second that! as the answer from craig is more or less a diplomatic way of not-enlightening the visitors of this site.
and indeed a little info on software etc. would be the least:
why take the trouble to sign up here just to say dont doubt us?
just deposit and withdraw, and youll see we can be trusted!
which could be the beginning of a scam for all i care.
just look at the recent troubles with accredited casino´s suddenly blocking legit accounts, making withdrawals very hard etc etc.
if you want to box up to that as newbie, it would be wise in my opinion to walk a very open road, hence providing sufficient info for a critical, but possibly very important audience.. no?

 

[Leann]

wannabet

I am now going to request a withdrawal. Will advise soonest. I presume they will process my request on Monday 3/29/10.

I will keep you posted.

Now where is that withdrawal key...lol

did you two ladies play there yourself, and have you cashed out?
that would be nice to know!
withdrawing is always a good indication of rogueness or not ^^

 

[jas2587]

i second that! as the answer from craig is more or less a diplomatic way of not-enlightening the visitors of this site.
and indeed a little info on software etc. would be the least:
why take the trouble to sign up here just to say dont doubt us?
just deposit and withdraw, and youll see we can be trusted!
which could be the beginning of a scam for all i care.
just look at the recent troubles with accredited casino´s suddenly blocking legit accounts, making withdrawals very hard etc etc.
if you want to box up to that as newbie, it would be wise in my opinion to walk a very open road, hence providing sufficient info for a critical, but possibly very important audience.. no?

maybe Craig from Wannabet didn't wanna start off fighting right away he proved he exsisted as some was even saying that he didn't
also there are 2 players that are Gonegambling members an are stating that they have played there an liked their experience but they got laughed at by funeral979 which was uncalled for just because they have so few post Shame


where is your friend Roanon usually he post an then you are posting right behind him like ya'll are a team or maybe 1 in the same hmmm....

Craig has been very upfront with us an untill that changes he stays on our site we back him 100%
if it comes out we was wrong then we will be the 1st to say so

Good Luck

GamblersGoWildCindy

 

[incrediblestuff]

where is your friend Roanon usually he post an then you are posting right behind him like ya'll are a team or maybe 1 in the same hmmm....

Craig has been very upfront with us an untill that changes he stays on our site we back him 100%
if it comes out we was wrong then we will be the 1st to say so

Good Luck

GamblersGoWildCindy

lol no roanan and i are NOT the same
we apparantly share the same disgust for the virtual group and its cohorts, but if we coincedentally have posted right after eachother, then it is just that: coincedence!

im not saying anything is wrong with wannabet
its just sincere interest in a possible new casino to play at, and this here forum is the ideal way to take away as many doubts as possible, before going in and depositing right?
and the point i made can be, but should not be refuted!
i'd say it's a very solid question, hence the longing for an answer.

cheers ^^

 

[Jasminebed]

It is obvious that Wannabet does not feel the members of Casinomeister are entitled to legitimate answers to legitimate questions.

In the casino industry, size does matter. If this casino is small enough not to have it's own dedicated server, does it have enough resources to handle a lucky streak by a player or two?

To catagorily deny everything is not an answer. That the terms of Wannabet do not contain any reference to a RNG or pseudo RNG is not speculation but a fact. I am not saying whether or not they have one, I am saying that there terms do not talk about one.

For me, for a casino their games must be random to be fair. And each event must not depend on previous events. If Wannabet does not wish to discuss their RTP on games, well, they would not be the first casino not to do so.

But I believe whether or not a RNG of some kind is used is a VERY important question, and worthy of a response here.

Casinos that participate here have a large audience of players, and those who face the music and answer the tough questions generally find that forthrightness is taken as a sign of honesty IMO.

 

[Pocketdiggers77]

I dont think it is Wannabet you should be worried about here it is the software provider AST Gaming. At best it is third rate software, filled with bugs verified here at CM. https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/
The webpage doesnt show the images like it did but here is another instance.
https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/spanish-luck-casino-blames-me-for-asts-problems.8966/

I had my own run around with them myself. The sportsbook I played at used this software and I discovered the Video Poker was redealing the burn cards. AST's explanantion was the sportsbook's software was out of date. WTF? The list goes on and on.

Wannabet might be legit but if they cant afford decent software on decent servers that is a HUGE red flag.

PD

 

[Jasminebed]

Wannabet lists their software as being from Gaming Right Media. It offers turnkey solutions for Casino and Sportsbook. A DIY casino if you will.

Are you confident it is AST Pocketdiggers?

Either way, it is an unknown software, that makes no mention of employing RNGs in their promotional website.

I'd need more from Wannabet that outright denial on all fronts and a Costa Rican business licence to play there.

 

[Tengil]

Pretty sure its some form of AST. Same games, same crappy paytables for VP etc. And non-random.

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[Pocketdiggers77]

Wannabet lists their software as being from Gaming Right Media. It offers turnkey solutions for Casino and Sportsbook. A DIY casino if you will.

Are you confident it is AST Pocketdiggers?

Either way, it is an unknown software, that makes no mention of employing RNGs in their promotional website.

I'd need more from Wannabet that outright denial on all fronts and a Costa Rican business licence to play there.

Is this their site? Link Removed (invalid URL)
?

If it is I am 100% positive it is AST. Same exact games. Perhaps AST changed their name because the link

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is dead.

This link is working now for the CM rochester page.
https://www.casinomeister.com/rogue-casinos/

But they have the same exact slots so I know it is old AST.

PD

 

[jas2587]

I think it is the people that complain an dont know a thing about a casino an continue to trash the rep because he has chosen not to come in an fight this fight

he lost before he even had a chance to post between Roanon, incrediblestuff, Jasminebed, an now Pocketdiggers77
my gosh are yall putting money into the site NO give the man a chance to come an post about his site


now i see why reps dont wanna come in here they are guilty before proven innnocent
an look at the friends throwing their friends under the bus my lord

Nope i dont think all this is worth it to me no matter what is said it wont be believed

look at Roanon this am trying to rogue out Vegas 7 Vegas poker that group whos next

Cindy