Videoslots - What are you getting out?

[Nate]

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to have an idea of whether I should increase my deposits at VS or not.

My experiences thus far have been positive in some areas and in others lacking. I cannot fault them when it comes to payout speed. They are setting the bar when it comes to that. No other place pays faster for me.. That is a HUGE thumbs up from my side.

But then there are other areas where I feel that the more i deposit, the less value I extract from them.

Firstly, VIP is non-existent for anyone who spends a bit of cash. Maybe its different for you, but i found them to be the worst VIP program on offer.

The free reel races are a good addition, but with 300 PLUS players, your chances are very slim. Most of them are like 0.10c spins in any event and i cannot recall ever making money from my free spins if i was lucky to even get 10 plus.

The weekly races are a good addition but again, you end up with a small amount unless you want to tackle Starburst at 0.10c for hours.

Weekly cashback is OK - sometimes i may just get the odd $50 - $100 paid out, but the vast amount of times, its just small compared to overall spend.

There are NO BONUSES or COMPS from the VIP Manager - I recall checking last year and at the time i had received a stellar comp amount of $70 for $ 20 000 in deposits.

All their perks are great additions but if you go on a losing streak of 3-4k, there are times I got nothing in return. At other places i have a VIP Cashback deal.

I can see it being a great place for some to play at, but I cannot seem to get ANY value. The last 3-4 days have seen my drop in excess of 2k with nothing to show.

How do YOU maximize your play here and are you seeing better perks?

Nate

 

[Harry_BKK]

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to have an idea of whether I should increase my deposits at VS or not.

My experiences thus far have been positive in some areas and in others lacking. I cannot fault them when it comes to payout speed. They are setting the bar when it comes to that. No other place pays faster for me. That is a HUGE thumbs up from my side.

But then there are other areas where I feel that the more i deposit, the less value I extract from them.

Firstly, VIP is non-existent for anyone who spends a bit of cash. Maybe its different for you, but i found them to be the worst VIP program on offer.

The free reel races are a good addition, but with 300 PLUS players, your chances are very slim. Most of them are like 0.10c spins in any event and i cannot recall ever making money from my free spins if i was lucky to even get 10 plus.

The weekly races are a good addition but again, you end up with a small amount unless you want to tackle Starburst at 0.10c for hours.

Weekly cashback is OK - sometimes i may just get the odd $50 - $100 paid out, but the vast amount of times, its just small compared to overall spend.

There are NO BONUSES or COMPS from the VIP Manager - I recall checking last year and at the time i had received a stellar comp amount of $70 for $ 20 000 in deposits.

All their perks are great additions but if you go on a losing streak of 3-4k, there are times I got nothing in return. At other places i have a VIP Cashback deal.

I can see it being a great place for some to play at, but I cannot seem to get ANY value. The last 3-4 days have seen my drop in excess of 2k with nothing to show.

How do YOU maximize your play here and are you seeing better perks?

Nate

LOL.... we all had this sentiment at some point.

I always said, that you have to play a little smarter at VS if you want to maximize your rewards. My average reward percentage varies between 5 - 7% and since it is all cash it comes close to other casinos who offered me a 10% weekly cashback (real cash, no WR) and certainly better (in my view) than a $50 comp with 35x or 45x WR.

- for race points, minimum $0.20 is required ($0.10 won't get you a single point even in 1000's of spins) - play it smart to make it to the TOP100 as below the amounts are dropping fast.
- cashback - on a good day with $400-500 in deposits i make it to $40-50, on a bad day it is only $15-20, the highest I had was over $120.
- Free Battles - not really the big booster.... This week i managed to win 20FS in total from the last 20 free battles I played. Winnings were $0.43. Just now I won 25FS in the Steam Tower battle and got $29. So occasionally, you get some play time. My best story is 50FS on Staburst, winning just over $10 and then hitting 5 scatter on DOA @ $0.27, withdrew $650 on that day
- I would ask Dan to put you in touch with Kenny as he seems to be the VIP-host-for-all at VS (on hols at the moment though). I do ask him on a very bad day for some comps or FS and usually appr. 5% of my deposits are possible
- Trophies and rewards - make sure to play different slots as there are rewards for FS, extra race points, 10% extra cash on next deposit etc. And do make sure to reset the trophies once you collected them all for a game as you can restart earning the same rewards again. (find them under "My Account / My Achievements", if you have a green reset icon next to a slot title you can do so and start over)

Hope this helps.

 

[lockinlove]

Dont bother messaging Kenny. I can save you time if you want.

"Hi there, great to hear from you and I hope you're having a lovely week. Unfortunately you do not qualify for any bonuses right now but that may change in the future, have a wonderful week"

 

[Jd666]

Dont bother messaging Kenny. I can save you time if you want.

"Hi there, great to hear from you and I hope you're having a lovely week. Unfortunately you do not qualify for any bonuses right now but that may change in the future, have a wonderful week"

You should send a message.

Hi Kenny, hope you are ok and having a lovely week.
Unfortunately you dont qualify for any of my deposits right now but that may change in the future, have a wonderful week

 

[Quickwin]

Natey, they are awful of loyality, i closed my account there, lost 4000euro and the rep here on CM "fixed" amazing $1 X 5 slot tournament ticket's like i was a joke or something.

 

[chris87]

I think they're a good casino, as noted the payouts are incredibly quick and you have the confidence that you will be paid.

But.....as I've said before, this is the casino for me where my luck has been the worst by far. I know it's not down to them, but I deposit hundreds per week and very rarely make a withdrawal apart from the cash back on a Friday. It was so bad last week that I was given a £40 bonus (with wagering) without asking, as i know what the answer usually is!

I don't do the competitions, but the weekly cash back, now called the weekend booster, can help if you've had some good wagering time. As for the weekly race, I do not know how these people get in the top 10, they must make some serious deposits! The best I do is the top 200 when I've deposited a fair bit.

Chris

 

[Mouche12]

I think they're a good casino, as noted the payouts are incredibly quick and you have the confidence that you will be paid.

But.....as I've said before, this is the casino for me where my luck has been the worst by far. I know it's not down to them, but I deposit hundreds per week and very rarely make a withdrawal apart from the cash back on a Friday. It was so bad last week that I was given a £40 bonus (with wagering) without asking, as i know what the answer usually is!

I don't do the competitions, but the weekly cash back, now called the weekend booster, can help if you've had some good wagering time. As for the weekly race, I do not know how these people get in the top 10, they must make some serious deposits! The best I do is the top 200 when I've deposited a fair bit.

Chris

Me too, Chris, me too! But I keep hoping my luck will change someday and I know I have to put some more variation into my game play, because it's mostly Finer Reels, Bonanza, Cloud Quest, Adventure Palace, TSI, Ladies Night, Kathmandu, Wizard of Gems and Frog Grog. It might help...

Have been depositing around 200-250 a week lately, most of it gone and not too much playtime unfortunately. Still, they're an excellent outfit - but I find myself having more luck at Guts lately (when the games are properly working, as they have for me lately but I read some other experiences too on this forum).

Hope your luck will change as well!

 

[dave1888]

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to have an idea of whether I should increase my deposits at VS or not.

My experiences thus far have been positive in some areas and in others lacking. I cannot fault them when it comes to payout speed. They are setting the bar when it comes to that. No other place pays faster for me.. That is a HUGE thumbs up from my side.

But then there are other areas where I feel that the more i deposit, the less value I extract from them.

Firstly, VIP is non-existent for anyone who spends a bit of cash. Maybe its different for you, but i found them to be the worst VIP program on offer.

The free reel races are a good addition, but with 300 PLUS players, your chances are very slim. Most of them are like 0.10c spins in any event and i cannot recall ever making money from my free spins if i was lucky to even get 10 plus.

The weekly races are a good addition but again, you end up with a small amount unless you want to tackle Starburst at 0.10c for hours.

Weekly cashback is OK - sometimes i may just get the odd $50 - $100 paid out, but the vast amount of times, its just small compared to overall spend.

There are NO BONUSES or COMPS from the VIP Manager - I recall checking last year and at the time i had received a stellar comp amount of $70 for $ 20 000 in deposits.

All their perks are great additions but if you go on a losing streak of 3-4k, there are times I got nothing in return. At other places i have a VIP Cashback deal.

I can see it being a great place for some to play at, but I cannot seem to get ANY value. The last 3-4 days have seen my drop in excess of 2k with nothing to show.

How do YOU maximize your play here and are you seeing better perks?

Nate

Reset all your completed achievements to get a wee bit more back? Including of course DOA!! Other than that have you tried lowering betsizes just a little and then going for a top 20 of the race??

Like for example Mcgameboy won nearly 5 grand on Jungle spirit at £0.60 bet...which is just insane so just play high variance stuff it's the only way to get anywhere there I think.

 

[Playford7]

A real VIP isn't treated the the same as those who think they are one.
2k/10k a week Isn't a real VIP.
The real ones are those whom we don't hear about.
All the rest of us are classed as 'regular' depositers whom get the odd cash back, free spins or a pitiful match offer. Possibly a pointless free chip.
Because of bonus abuse and increase Of players the online slot world is looking more bleak by the week for the average to almost high rolling player.

 

[greylady]

I seldom deposit at Videoslots now and when I do it's a minimal amount to test the waters. It's the worst site in terms of game play etc for me and the rewards seem to be aimed at high rollers, not your average Joe - most players have their 'go to' games, which means rewards are limited and i think free battles are weighted, it definitely appears that way when you see the same names in the top 10 over and over again.

It has definitely been the worst performing site for me.

 

[spintee]

They do give alot of perks and always stated this, but my rewards are defunked as the more I played the less I received so I basicly called it a day with them. I still have an odd shot but thats about it.

I have had a few gifts of them in the past and would nether of thought my play would qualify for such things but at one stage they was getting regular depo's of me and the rewards was 0, the last straw was hitting level 20 and got bugger all for that, whats the bloody point having such levels etc if you get shit all? especially as that is there loyalty scheme

Yes fast payout and your in safe hands but the loyalty needs a overhaul

Was it the Tuesady free spins? they seem to have vanished now also which was a little something to fall back on

I also find the games are so tight there albeit we have been informed that they have them set on the best pay out

I had like near 100£ in there a while back and did not even manage to get the 500 wager free rolls and just scraped the 200 ones for the weekend free roll

If it was snot for the hit and miss bonus structer than all would be good

 

[mina1929]

I usually deposit $50 to a $100 at Video Slots a week, I just love playing there.

Always get something back and I don't care if its only a small amount as sometimes I don't have anything to deposit.

Last week I got $18 cash back and ended up winning $200

No other casino tops Video Slots as other casinos may offer free spins but need to wager or deposit to wager.

I also really like the games trophy challenge, nearly finished Book of Dead. yay!

I try to play different games as well and they have so many, its all fun

 

[mina1929]

They do give alot of perks and always stated this, but my rewards are defunked as the more I played the less I received so I basicly called it a day with them. I still have an odd shot but thats about it.

I have had a few gifts of them in the past and would nether of thought my play would qualify for such things but at one stage they was getting regular depo's of me and the rewards was 0, the last straw was hitting level 20 and got bugger all for that, whats the bloody point having such levels etc if you get shit all? especially as that is there loyalty scheme

Yes fast payout and your in safe hands but the loyalty needs a overhaul

Was it the Tuesady free spins? they seem to have vanished now also which was a little something to fall back on

I also find the games are so tight there albeit we have been informed that they have them set on the best pay out

I had like near 100£ in there a while back and did not even manage to get the 500 wager free rolls and just scraped the 200 ones for the weekend free roll

If it was snot for the hit and miss bonus structer than all would be good

I still get the Tuesday free spins

 

[bebo67]

Hi Guys,

Just wanted to have an idea of whether I should increase my deposits at VS or not.

My experiences thus far have been positive in some areas and in others lacking. I cannot fault them when it comes to payout speed. They are setting the bar when it comes to that. No other place pays faster for me.. That is a HUGE thumbs up from my side.

But then there are other areas where I feel that the more i deposit, the less value I extract from them.

Firstly, VIP is non-existent for anyone who spends a bit of cash. Maybe its different for you, but i found them to be the worst VIP program on offer.

The free reel races are a good addition, but with 300 PLUS players, your chances are very slim. Most of them are like 0.10c spins in any event and i cannot recall ever making money from my free spins if i was lucky to even get 10 plus.

The weekly races are a good addition but again, you end up with a small amount unless you want to tackle Starburst at 0.10c for hours.

Weekly cashback is OK - sometimes i may just get the odd $50 - $100 paid out, but the vast amount of times, its just small compared to overall spend.

There are NO BONUSES or COMPS from the VIP Manager - I recall checking last year and at the time i had received a stellar comp amount of $70 for $ 20 000 in deposits.

All their perks are great additions but if you go on a losing streak of 3-4k, there are times I got nothing in return. At other places i have a VIP Cashback deal.

I can see it being a great place for some to play at, but I cannot seem to get ANY value. The last 3-4 days have seen my drop in excess of 2k with nothing to show.

How do YOU maximize your play here and are you seeing better perks?

Nate

I deposit 10 dollars, 3x's a week. Most times. And then I call it a week. I dont casino hop, never have and never will. But I lost a crap load back last year, before I got sick. I was furious with them, and myself! Never, ever again will I go down that road! Don't deposit high amounts with them. It's that simple. My cashback is 2 dollars and something, if Im lucky at the most 20. lol.

 

[bebo67]

Dont bother messaging Kenny. I can save you time if you want.

"Hi there, great to hear from you and I hope you're having a lovely week. Unfortunately you do not qualify for any bonuses right now but that may change in the future, have a wonderful week"

Omg. They should have a rolling on the floor howling emote. Hahahahaha! PRICELESS!

 

[interlog]

A real VIP isn't treated the the same as those who think they are one.
2k/10k a week Isn't a real VIP.
The real ones are those whom we don't hear about.
All the rest of us are classed as 'regular' depositers whom get the odd cash back, free spins or a pitiful match offer. Possibly a pointless free chip.
Because of bonus abuse and increase Of players the online slot world is looking more bleak by the week for the average to almost high rolling player.

Some truth in this post.

Because, let's be honest most of us are nowhere near high roller territory. We like to think so, but we are small fish in the pond.

And as a casino grows - as Videoslots has done over the past couple of years - the rewards are to be shared with more players automatically devaluing them.

 

[sueyh]

Every casinos has pros and cons.

For Videoslots, probably how fast the withdrawal is a big "pros" side, and you can flush your withdrawal if you use a little bit slower option like bank wire transfer, and their problem gambling section is a really top notch.

I like their cash back, race, free spins because everything comes as no wagering required.
You don't need to worry about if you breach max bet rule, you don't need to worry about "max withdrawal" when you play with the money you got from free spins.
There are a few posts in "screenshot that sucks", a big winning but there is "max withdrawal" from bonus or free spin money so the player can withdraw a very small part of the winnings. You don't need to worry about that with Videoslots.

Of course their cons will be not much deposit bonus. But personally I don't use much of deposit bonus in any casino because I don't like all the restriction that comes with the bonus, so Videoslots is probably the best option for me, but I know it might not be a best option for everybody.

One good thing about being CM member is we can shop around casinos among hundreds of reputable casinos, at the moment my choice is Videoslots.

 

[Harry_BKK]

I think they're a good casino, as noted the payouts are incredibly quick and you have the confidence that you will be paid.

But.....as I've said before, this is the casino for me where my luck has been the worst by far. I know it's not down to them, but I deposit hundreds per week and very rarely make a withdrawal apart from the cash back on a Friday. It was so bad last week that I was given a £40 bonus (with wagering) without asking, as i know what the answer usually is!

I don't do the competitions, but the weekly cash back, now called the weekend booster, can help if you've had some good wagering time. As for the weekly race, I do not know how these people get in the top 10, they must make some serious deposits! The best I do is the top 200 when I've deposited a fair bit.

Chris

In the past 9 months I made it once into the TOP10 in a weekly race. Was in December 2016 during my marathon, the total deposits for that week were over $18,000!!!

This were the numbers I got from VS support at the time:

From VS live chat: "You have deposited $18,814.12 and withdrawn $11,983."

One thing is for sure, you won't get to the top with a few hundred bucks.

 

[danchop]

Today im currently at 684 position in the races and about $1 contributed to the weekend booster through a zero deposit,just playing off the weekly 15 free spins.My current position may be next to a guy whose deposited and lost $400....buts thats gambling i spose
Since joining in november my deposits are $13090aud,my weekend booster total is $951.37 and races winnings are $345,so nearly a 10% cashback,and its not accounting for any free spins from battles,rewards..etc.
Ive not had a cash out as yet,but videoslots cant be blamed for that.....ive got a list of what i can blame,but myself and videoslots are in the clear.

I feel like ive got an axe to grind but looking at those stats,i spose i cant complain..The time delay between your deposit/play/loss to getting rewarded for the loss in different increments,is the reason thier system agitates i think... but its good cause its unique

 

[mac72]

Closed account there last week after nearly 150k in deposits over last couple years. Same as Nate I negotiate cash back deals everywhere I play and videoslots was just becoming commercial suicide. ZERO loyalty or comps on roulette play and fed up hearing "we're a slots based casino" so I had to get away. I can get 30% cashback on 1times wagering elsewhere so after a 4K losing session on roulette at VS i decided the smart move was just to walk away. Their payouts are fast although larger ones in my experience always took longer but without cashback for me anyway they're a no no.

 

[aceking123]

Same as other players, i closed the account yesterday , i've made a fair few deposits , but just see the same merry go round with the slots pump thousands in to get a % back , rinse & repeat yesterday with the nail for them , another £480 gone in a flash, i would advise to stay clear nate to be honest.

Reasons are other than payout speeds , really the rest is just crap , unless you want to play smart like harry has pointed out , vip bit is a complete shambles, lack of any bonus or matches , nothing even if you have made £2k or more deposits in a month , i don't think 10p spins is anything to shout about , i'm a mid roller & i have had one £50 bonus in around 3 months or so , you can ask Kenny he directs you to cashback & races.

Max ive had is £100 quid cashback

your be treated far better at other casinos these guys are so big they really dont care , cs via e mail was arguing with me about stats the other day ,as i pointed out my feelings towards the games i had been battering, then out of the blue a £50 quid bonus was in my account from Kenny , albeit at least it was something.

I would say join Trada or something at least the Cs is great & you're not just a number but a player , i had a long break from the casino but rejoined a while ago & nothing is too much trouble for them , so so different you wouldnt believe)

 

[liberec]

My RTP was 12% and half year ago i closed my account for 5 years.
I closed also Rizk Casino and some other.

sometimes i deposit 10 euro at Redbet, Guts or anywhere
else and the money is lost mostly within 20 minutes.

all in all i try to stop gambling. its not easy you know

 

[interlog]

A 12% rtp is almost impossible unless you do a couple of handful of spins

 

[spintee]

A 12% rtp is almost impossible unless you do a couple of handful of spins

any thing is possible in this gambling game

 

[lockinlove]

any thing is possible in this gambling game

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what the.....

That is gross and has to be some kind of record.

No wonder people are freaking about all the new slots coming out.

97 dead spin sin a row

 

[brianmon]

The problem with VideoSlots is that the majority of their promotions budget is allocated towards rewarding winning players rather than compensating losing players.
Not necessarily those players who win enough to cash out, but those who, at least, win enough to keep playing, and wager a decent amount.

And although the 'rewards' aren't too bad, if you do get a decent amount wagered from your deposit whether you manage to cash out or not.
They're not that good that you'd want to deposit more than you'd initially planned to..

Haven't wagered enough for the 'free' battles? Are they really worth depositing more, to achieve the wagering?
Achieved a decent position in the race? Is it worth depositing a couple of hundred more, just to get a little higher but only get a few quid extra?

I don't see the incentive to deposit more than you'd initially planned to at VideoSlots.
Other casinos will use free spin offers and bonuses etc, to get you to make that extra deposit of the week.
Or give something back, if you've been unlucky.

So VideoSlots strategy may not be as perfect as they like to think it is. They may actually only be getting the amount of deposits, they would have done anyway.
And it's the other casinos who are managing to tempt players into making those extra deposits.

 

[spintee]

what the.....

That is gross and has to be some kind of record.

No wonder people are freaking about all the new slots coming out.

97 dead spin sin a row

There may have been a glich on slotracker part but I do not think so as I remeber thinking what the hell is going on at the time. I just looked at my stats and I have another what is like less than 20% and with alot of spins

No wonder people are getting pissed of with 5 free spins here and there and when you get games error as its impossible to win when that shit happens

Interlog said that RTP can not be that bad unless its a hand full of spins, well thats what it is now days on alot of sites due to the errors

 

[Steviedoo]

VS can't be blamed for poor performance of the slots unless the rtp for their casino is different from others which is highly unlikely.

 

[interlog]

I insist that a 12% rtp over weeks worth of play is bullshit. Yeah maybe over a 100 spins but not over a prolonged period if time.

I you want yo whinge and moan about your play at least give some honest figures.

 

[lockinlove]

any thing is possible in this gambling game

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There may have been a glich on slotracker part but I do not think so as I remeber thinking what the hell is going on at the time. I just looked at my stats and I have another what is like less than 20% and with alot of spins

No wonder people are getting pissed of with 5 free spins here and there and when you get games error as its impossible to win when that shit happens

Interlog said that RTP can not be that bad unless its a hand full of spins, well thats what it is now days on alot of sites due to the errors

lol I would be saying what the hell too after 97 dead spins. Ive never played that slot but I wouldnt doubt it if it was on space wars or something too

 

[me_and_ed]

I also give VS top props, fastest payouts, no bullshit, usually get $200-$300 week in cashback that is always free, race money but its the cashouts, I rarely wait beyond 30 mins, most casinos (even accredited ones) are not at this speed.

I am pretty much anti bonus, I am sure this comment will piss some people off but it makes me sick reading some of these complaints when it pertains to a bonus , the reality of all casinos is that they are there to make money like any business in the whole world, its called gambling for a reason, I don't understand the expectation of some people, some win, most lose, we all hope we are in the first category but that simply is not possible, if you are not prepared to lose your money then don't play, I don't expect to be rewarded when I lose, as far as loyalty I think their cashback is better than most places I play at (we are somewhat limited in Canada compared to days gone by).

 

[Jhonson90]

Hi Nate , I describe my experience.
They have very fast payout , and as long deposit low amounts is a great casino.
But there are two issues for high rollers:

1)Maximum bets lower than the average.

2)Vip support totally non-existent when compared for example to Redbet , Vip manager, except exceptional cases where you can receive a litte non-deposit bonus ,
will always give you free spin and will remind you of cash back.
From Redbet I received bonuses with very high amount without deposit while having deposited and lost less than Videoslots.

The second issue for me is unacceptable and I closed account in February.

Best Regards.

 

[Steviedoo]

I also give VS top props, fastest payouts, no bullshit, usually get $200-$300 week in cashback that is always free, race money but its the cashouts, I rarely wait beyond 30 mins, most casinos (even accredited ones) are not at this speed.

I am pretty much anti bonus, I am sure this comment will piss some people off but it makes me sick reading some of these complaints when it pertains to a bonus, the reality of all casinos is that they are there to make money like any business in the whole world, its called gambling for a reason, I don't understand the expectation of some people, some win, most lose, we all hope we are in the first category but that simply is not possible, if you are not prepared to lose your money then don't play.

I'm a fan of vs for their fast cashouts. I don't mind that they don't offer bonuses...

I used to take bonuses everywhere...now I don't take any....I have become anti bonus too....I used to win and then never make it thru wagering....I sometimes play at gowild and take their free spins...they usually offer 50 to 100....I figure if I lose my deposit I can still make it up with their free spins...but if I win I can cash out right away cuz I don't play the free spins till I've either cashed out or lost my deposit.

 

[lockinlove]

VS can't be blamed for poor performance of the slots unless the rtp for their casino is different from others which is highly unlikely.

Yeah I dont think its different. Ive had some decent cashouts and runs there. Its just either good luck or bad luck and nothing else. The only thing that gets me going abit is the fricken battles I always always win 300x on but play those slots for real money and its awful

But anyways, the only casinos that I think had low rtp settings was 32red, that casino was unreal to me. I had 72% rtp over like 180,000 spins and the other was club world where the stats were a bit worse.

I dont know why some casinos are so bad to some people but I just suggest switching it up and trying somewhere else

 

[me_and_ed]

I'm a fan of vs for their fast cashouts. I don't mind that they don't offer bonuses...

I used to take bonuses everywhere...now I don't take any....I have become anti bonus too....I used to win and then never make it thru wagering....I sometimes play at gowild and take their free spins...they usually offer 50 to 100....I figure if I lose my deposit I can still make it up with their free spins...but if I win I can cash out right away cuz I don't play the free spins till I've either cashed out or lost my deposit.

There are no two worse things in online gaming for me, one is bonus requirements and trying to grind out some astronomical w/r (which like you I used to do), the second is a pending period which is complete and utter nonsense and downright disrespectful to all depositing players.

 

[Nate]

There are no two worse things in online gaming for me, one is bonus requirements and trying to grind out some astronomical w/r (which like you I used to do), the second is a pending period which is complete and utter nonsense and downright disrespectful to all depositing players.

Absolutely - I DESPISE slow pay. This is why i wont close my account at VS - They pay me in 15 mins when i win. That's the most important thing to me. I know they don't offer bonuses or gestures of goodwill. Sometimes its a good thing and sometimes its a bad thing.

I actually reduced my deposit limit to $20 a day as I felt no value. I slowly increased it and I have a limit of $500 a day which i easily reach most slotting days.

The only proven way of staying ahead for me at VS is not by getting anything from them, but putting a limit on my deposits WHEN I hit big. If i take them for 10k on DOA (which I have done) I know any deposits after that are going to be meaningless to them as I am 'ahead'. I cap deposits at $200 a day and then go off and play elsewhere where I have a cashback deal.

Each to his own - Some believe they are owed nothing, some like the perks of having something back for their loyalty. Ultimately everyone wants to maximize their value for money as the market can be competitive IF you know where to look.


Nate

 

[me_and_ed]

Absolutely - I DESPISE slow pay. This is why i wont close my account at VS - They pay me in 15 mins when i win. That's the most important thing to me. I know they don't offer bonuses or gestures of goodwill. Sometimes its a good thing and sometimes its a bad thing.

I actually reduced my deposit limit to $20 a day as I felt no value. I slowly increased it and I have a limit of $500 a day which i easily reach most slotting days.

The only proven way of staying ahead for me at VS is not by getting anything from them, but putting a limit on my deposits WHEN I hit big. If i take them for 10k on DOA (which I have done) I know any deposits after that are going to be meaningless to them as I am 'ahead'. I cap deposits at $200 a day and then go off and play elsewhere where I have a cashback deal.

Each to his own - Some believe they are owed nothing, some like the perks of having something back for their loyalty. Ultimately everyone wants to maximize their value for money as the market can be competitive IF you know where to look.


Nate

Its funny you bring up limits, I am somewhat of a free spender in life, I am very fortunate to have some fairly successful ventures (debatable ) , I never really tracked my spending up until a couple months back and then realized I was blowing through 15-20k mth online, I have timed out all of my accounts for at least 30 days, yes I have a nervous pit in my stomach and want to play but have gotten through it, the roughest patch is over, I re upped my time outs to 90 days on the expired ones, it is pretty amazing how much extra cash I have and my want to play has waned, I am doing a costly restoration on a 66 Impala SS that I probably would have dragged my feet on when I was playing daily, it feels pretty good!!

 

[DreamRJ]

Again i am sorry and late to see and reply to this thread.

I agree with your OP Nate.

I too have deposited a lot of money at videoslots over the last year and more. And I can tell you i deposited a good amount during the first few months of 2017 and i am talking thousands by the way.

Even managed to clear that level 20 too as a result in those deposits.

And I did get emails from loyalty team, Jonathan in loyalty in fact and we have also spoke on the phone a few times as well. And he has reiterated that they have a different system than other casinos. And that is why you do not get goodwills at video slots. Let me give you details of how they work out if you can have a goodwill or not.

But basically they always say they have the race and cashback, so you get most back from those 2 promotions alone, but only if your active.

But i have argued with Jonathan on many occasions in email and on the phone and i do not count them as loyalty or comps or goodwills, but they just stand by the same old sentences my hands are tied we work differently than others blah blah, it is just the same old replies all the time with them.

Basically they look at the following and get a % based on those and then see if your in the range to receive something extra from the loyalty team or not.

So they take into account, deposits/withdraws/race money earned the last week/cashback earned the last week/battle wins/achievement rewards earned/ then they get a % based on all of that and if it is in the range that is good then they can not give anything.

All loyalty ever give me is race rewards or those race spin rewards. only a few times i was given a ND cash bonus with WR. but they was very small. And that was not even when i was depositing a lot too.

I mean do not get me wrong videoslots casino is the best online casino I LOVE them but i too am frustrated with the amount of money i have given them over the last year and a half and they do not care for my loyalty and fob me off with the same sentences we work differently.

Anyway yeah i am and do agree with you nate.

Maybe Dan will see this post and see what he can do for us all. but i do not think it will change.

 

[interlog]

This is how it works in my opinion (and I am guessing here, I have no insider information and I may well be way off the mark).

Monday morning first thing, a team meeting is held. They look at the previous week and look at those that made profitable withdrawals. Those that made the best withdrawals get contacted by the VIP department and gets given freebies so that they continue to play and lose the money back - they beat the odds after all so there is usually only one way subsequent deposits go, and that is down the toilet.

Those that lost money and/or are lifetime profitable for the casino are statistically speaking more likely to recoup some of that money back, so why give them that opportunity with free goodies from the casino? They rather have you play elsewhere and recover that money. And that is why you get told you already received cashback, race money etc.

I experienced this at VS - out of the blue contact by the VIP department after large withdrawals with free cash "to start the week off". The moment it went tits up so the speak, nothing other than you received cashback, race money etc.

But that is not just with VS. Same happened at other casinos. The minute I am in profit, out of the blue the contact starts. The minute, I am running at a loss, sod all from them.

As said, I may be way off the mark but it wouldn't surprise me that it works that way with casinos.

 

[spintee]

This is how it works in my opinion (and I am guessing here, I have no insider information and I may well be way off the mark).

Monday morning first thing, a team meeting is held. They look at the previous week and look at those that made profitable withdrawals. Those that made the best withdrawals get contacted by the VIP department and gets given freebies so that they continue to play and lose the money back - they beat the odds after all so there is usually only one way subsequent deposits go, and that is down the toilet.

Those that lost money and/or are lifetime profitable for the casino are statistically speaking more likely to recoup some of that money back, so why give them that opportunity with free goodies from the casino? They rather have you play elsewhere and recover that money. And that is why you get told you already received cashback, race money etc.

I experienced this at VS - out of the blue contact by the VIP department after large withdrawals with free cash "to start the week off". The moment it went tits up so the speak, nothing other than you received cashback, race money etc.

But that is not just with VS. Same happened at other casinos. The minute I am in profit, out of the blue the contact starts. The minute, I am running at a loss, sod all from them.

As said, I may be way off the mark but it wouldn't surprise me that it works that way with casinos.

You can not be to far of the button there

I mean why would a casino want to give the money away they just earned from losing players? there is a reason and thats to keep players happy but not in VS book as they know that the losing player will be back on the cashback day to start of again.

On the other hand they going to want that wad they just lost to a few players so no harm in ringing them stating well done here is a free chip to start of another *winning streak*

I do not blame them but they have to remember if there are no little fish than there would be no big fish