Official Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

[Dan.Videoslots]

Hello everyone.

There is no difference between playing a slot in a Battle or for your own money on our site, it is exactly the same game, RTP and all.

Best regards,
Daniel.

 

[Jono777]

Well, It does make you think,

Especially after sites doing the promo where guarantee a bonus round on 1st spin???

If they can fix up a winning free round than whats stopping them from not adding winning free round???

If sites say here is 10 free spins whats saying they can guarantee that you do not hit a bonus round, Just like they can guarantee a bonus round??

When I first spotted this type of 'promotion' I PM'ed the rep straight off warning of the impending can of worms situation and the fact that I was a bad foil hatter BEFORE seeing this sort of promotion.

As usual I got ignored, not by rep but by the fact various casinos continue to send out these "Of course we cannot manipulate the slots" type offers

With the recent PnG RTP thread and these offers, tied in with constant piss poor session, makes that yearn to take up knitting, yoga or moto cross that lil bit stronger!

 

[spintee]

what site does that?

And yes it makes me think because it happens ALL the time here

There is a few sites that offer this promo, You could buy a guarantee bonus round on VeraJohn, unsure if they changed this but when they updated the site the other week you could buy one

 

[lockinlove]

There is a few sites that offer this promo, You could buy a guarantee bonus round on VeraJohn, unsure if they changed this but when they updated the site the other week you could buy one

are you saying a site could trigger a bonus? if so thats very concerning to me

btw just did birds on a wire battle and hit 150x

lmao

might quit slots and play chess

 

[geordiecolin]

are you saying a site could trigger a bonus? if so thats very concerning to me

btw just did birds on a wire battle and hit 150x

lmao

might quit slots and play chess

Yes,at least twice recently I have seen a depositing promo that offered 1 free spin that is a guaranteed pass to the bonus round at something like .50 per spin. It made me think too.

 

[goatwack]

You can purchase bonus rounds now?

Not shady at all.

Nor an indication that slot gameplay can be manually altered by casinos.

I don't know why any of us would be paranoid about slots after this

 

[lockinlove]

So all this time when long time members etc have always stated that casinos have zero control over how a game plays they have been wrong and the casinos can alter it?

Well isnt this nice.

Surely there must be a huge thread on this with furious posters? Can anyone link me to it?

 

[goatwack]

So all this time when long time members etc have always stated that casinos have zero control over how a game plays they have been wrong and the casinos can alter it?

Well isnt this nice.

Surely there must be a huge thread on this with furious posters? Can anyone link me to it?

If proven correct, I'm sure there will be. There's no way this would blow over!

Here's hoping someone else can verify this, lest we tar & feather Spintee

 

[lockinlove]

hmm. Some years ago when I went 40 straight deposits on an rtg casino and had enough and went to support and asked my account be closed, they said go and try this game before you do. Its a good slot.

I did and won 1000x

Sounds to me they could alter the slots and didnt want to lose a heavy depositer

 

[Jono777]

So all this time when long time members etc have always stated that casinos have zero control over how a game plays they have been wrong and the casinos can alter it?

Well isnt this nice.

Surely there must be a huge thread on this with furious posters? Can anyone link me to it?

Not sure if this is the one you want but it is the most recent which is related to this sort of thing.


https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/play-n-go-different-rtp-at-different-sites.76967/

 

[geordiecolin]

Not sure if this is the one you want but it is the most recent which is related to this sort of thing.


https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/play-n-go-different-rtp-at-different-sites.76967/

I am pretty sure that the last time I noticed this 1 free spin in bonus round was within the past 3 days. The trouble is that it may have ended now. It was at a casino that,if not accredited,it is at least respected.
I think that I read it on their site but I will check my deleted emails.

 

[interlog]

Only explanation I can find why it appears to play better during the battles is that you have up to 500 people playing it simultaneously. Bonus rounds and big wins will therefore appear more frequently then when you have say 10 people playing simultaneously

 

[geordiecolin]

Only explanation I can find why it appears to play better during the battles is that you have up to 500 people playing it simultaneously. Bonus rounds and big wins will therefore appear more frequently then when you have say 10 people playing simultaneously

But the average rtp across the battles for a given time appears to me to be way above what could reasonably be expected.

 

[paul7388]

There's nothing new about casinos being able to trigger a bonus round. But it doesn't mean they can also change slot payouts and RTP and fix it so slots do not pay out. I would not imagine it would be to hard to programme a slot to give a bonus round.

Would imagine it works same way as RTG casinos that have feature guarantee where if you do not trigger in 100 spins you automatically trigger the bonus or some of the slots nowadays that you can buy the bonus round any time you want.

Its the same as the Jackpots that must be won by a certain amount . They go for ages then as soon as they reach the target amount they have to pay out even tho they are randomly won..

 

[brianmon]

Only explanation I can find why it appears to play better during the battles is that you have up to 500 people playing it simultaneously. Bonus rounds and big wins will therefore appear more frequently then when you have say 10 people playing simultaneously

If everything is random then it wouldn't matter if there's one person playing or 10,000 playing

 

[interlog]

But the average rtp across the battles for a given time appears to me to be way above what could reasonably be expected.

Only way to find out is to do a calculation at the end for all players and work out the RTP.

I have played book of Dead battles where I didn't even get to 200 points so I could argue that during normal play it plays better.

At the end of the day, in my opinion, if you think the battles are rigged then don't play them.

 

[Jono777]

I am pretty sure that the last time I noticed this 1 free spin in bonus round was within the past 3 days. The trouble is that it may have ended now. It was at a casino that,if not accredited,it is at least respected.
I think that I read it on their site but I will check my deleted emails.

Last one I recall IIRC was last week or thereabouts.

Thrills were doing a wager/draw type promo where 'X' lucky winners got a free spin worth £2.50 and the guarantee that spin would trigger FS/Bonus round.

I have only come across this type of thing for Quickspin slots so far so maybe its just one setting that particular provider offers which others don't, Never can be sure ??

What would (or should that be wouldn't ) surprise me if they can do the opposite and stop bonus rounds or hits over a certain 'x'

I have however always believed (even more so after threads of recent days) that casino(s) can alter RTP per game but only within a specific range (For Example: 90% - 97%)

 

[spintee]

are you saying a site could trigger a bonus? if so thats very concerning to me

btw just did birds on a wire battle and hit 150x

lmao

might quit slots and play chess

You can purchase bonus rounds now?

Not shady at all.

Nor an indication that slot gameplay can be manually altered by casinos.

I don't know why any of us would be paranoid about slots after this

Yes I see the promo's and I am 100% you could buy straight into a bonus round but I sure it was on VJ, could of been on another site, Just read VJ bonus terms

Trigger Spins
A Trigger Spin allows you to go straight to the bonus feature in a particular game. Anything you win while that bonus feature is running is all yours to keep.

Surley if they can do this than they chose how big of a bonus you going to get?? It does make you wonder and no why we have a tiny hats on,

 

[lockinlove]

Not sure if this is the one you want but it is the most recent which is related to this sort of thing.


https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/threads/play-n-go-different-rtp-at-different-sites.76967/

greattttttttt

so casinos can make their own rtp and trigger bonuses when they want.

Well isnt that great.

So my conclusion is platinumplay likes me alot and clubworld hated me. And videoslots is starting to not like me.

 

[geordiecolin]

Only way to find out is to do a calculation at the end for all players and work out the RTP.

I have played book of Dead battles where I didn't even get to 200 points so I could argue that during normal play it plays better.

At the end of the day, in my opinion, if you think the battles are rigged then don't play them.

That is an utterly nonsense rationale.If the average RTP is higher then it will be higher for everyone thus negating the reason you give for not playing the battles.

 

[geordiecolin]

Last one I recall IIRC was last week or thereabouts.

Thrills were doing a wager/draw type promo where 'X' lucky winners got a free spin worth £2.50 and the guarantee that spin would trigger FS/Bonus round.

I have only come across this type of thing for Quickspin slots so far so maybe its just one setting that particular provider offers which others don't, Never can be sure ??

What would (or should that be wouldn't ) surprise me if they can do the opposite and stop bonus rounds or hits over a certain 'x'

I have however always believed (even more so after threads of recent days) that casino(s) can alter RTP per game but only within a specific range (For Example: 90% - 97%)

It was defo not the offer dished up for Christmas in some "log in now for 1 free spin" promos we had last month

 

[interlog]

That is an utterly nonsense rationale.If the average RTP is higher then it will be higher for everyone thus negating the reason you give for not playing the battles.

But the VS rep says the game plays the same so why this continued discussion?

You either believe him or you don't and stop playing at what must then be a rigged casino.

I trust VS to conduct the battles properly and will let others continue with the conspiracy theories

 

[geordiecolin]

Yes I see the promo's and I am 100% you could buy straight into a bonus round but I sure it was on VJ, could of been on another site, Just read VJ bonus terms

Trigger Spins
A Trigger Spin allows you to go straight to the bonus feature in a particular game. Anything you win while that bonus feature is running is all yours to keep.

Surley if they can do this than they chose how big of a bonus you going to get?? It does make you wonder and no why we have a tiny hats on,

Or give a favoured punter a guaranteed lovely bonus without them know that they are guaranteed. " Here are 10 free spins in Jackhammer2. Good luck Colin"

 

[geordiecolin]

But the VS rep says the game plays the same so why this continued discussion?

You either believe him or you don't and stop playing at what must then be a rigged casino.

I trust VS to conduct the battles properly and will let others continue with the conspiracy theories

It still remains that your theory made no sense. I make my own mind up about where I do and do not deposit at. I happen to love Videoslots. Sometimes it feels like I am in an abusive relationship with them the way the RTP and battles sometimes treat me.

 

[lockinlove]

Hello everyone.

There is no difference between playing a slot in a Battle or for your own money on our site, it is exactly the same game, RTP and all.

Best regards,
Daniel.

Not sure I buy it!

Just did another battle and had 175% rtp at the end of that one.

Hopefully you dont blame me for making the assumptions ive had. But when a person plays these games with money vs battle and the money never wins and the battles do what am I to think. This battle included 4 chests on hugo and one resulting in getting to the final chest for a 65x win! Which has happened alot to me in the past........in the battles.

 

[Tirilej]

Not sure I buy it!

Just did another battle and had 175% rtp at the end of that one.

Hopefully you dont blame me for making the assumptions ive had. But when a person plays these games with money vs battle and the money never wins and the battles do what am I to think. This battle included 4 chests on hugo and one resulting in getting to the final chest for a 65x win! Which has happened alot to me in the past........in the battles.

I would say lucky you. I've played many many tournaments in there. I've won 2 and a few free spins a few times.
I would say my rtp over time in those tourney's are around 25%.
I'm happy that you're winning though but I wish we could change place.

 

[lockinlove]

I would say lucky you. I've played many many tournaments in there. I've won 2 and a few free spins a few times.
I would say my rtp over time in those tourney's are around 25%.
I'm happy that you're winning though but I wish we could change place.

If you are winning in money games but not battles, I say lets change too!

 

[lockinlove]

It still remains that your theory made no sense. I make my own mind up about where I do and do not deposit at. I happen to love Videoslots. Sometimes it feels like I am in an abusive relationship with them the way the RTP and battles sometimes treat me.

but they are conspiracy theories!!!!!!!!

You know, the same ones where people believed casinos cant alter the rtp or effect game play but we have come to find out they can do both!! Well gosh darn.

Anyways, battles are free so its not a big deal where its costing me money. So of course we would play, would be silly not too.

Ahhh id be rolling in money if I had these hits in game play that ive had in battles the last couple months. A big. colored. pile of money

 

[Tirilej]

If you are winning in money games but not battles, I say lets change too!

I don't know how I did there last year. I will ask them though some day. I usually make a list from all casinos so I see how I've been doing.
Maybe a few hundreds down or up during the whole year is my guess.

You've won a lot on other places. It's usually up or down. Enjoy what your doing instead of looking for things that aren't true.
You don't look good in tin foil

 

[lockinlove]

I don't know how I did there last year. I will ask them though some day. I usually make a list from all casinos so I see how I've been doing.
Maybe a few hundreds down or up during the whole year is my guess.

You've won a lot on other places. It's usually up or down. Enjoy what your doing instead of looking for things that aren't true.
You don't look good in tin foil

Now, now Trilej Judging others doesnt make you look very good either.

And from here on out, dont ever use the tin foil hat ever again in my opinion. From what has been learned with what casinos can do, the only person making those accusations now, are misinformed and trying to sound like the affiliate masses.

btw Im not complaining about money losses. Just the way games seem to play different.

 

[interlog]

Not sure I buy it!

Just did another battle and had 175% rtp at the end of that one.

Hopefully you dont blame me for making the assumptions ive had. But when a person plays these games with money vs battle and the money never wins and the battles do what am I to think. This battle included 4 chests on hugo and one resulting in getting to the final chest for a 65x win! Which has happened alot to me in the past........in the battles.

But the opposite more often than not happens for me.

I hardly ever get over 100% RTP in these battles. When I play the same games for real money I am often up on 100 spins. I don't cash out and carry on playing so will eventually lose it again.

I find it hard to believe that Dan would put the reputation of VS at risk by giving out false information for the sake of 100 free spins at minimum bet value that can be won for the top prize. Too much to loose in my opinion.

 

[geordiecolin]

but they are conspiracy theories!!!!!!!!

You know, the same ones where people believed casinos cant alter the rtp or effect game play but we have come to find out they can do both!! Well gosh darn.

Anyways, battles are free so its not a big deal where its costing me money. So of course we would play, would be silly not too.

Ahhh id be rolling in money if I had these hits in game play that ive had in battles the last couple months. A big. colored. pile of money

I spent about £90 before I qualified for a full week of battles,but I must boycott the last 5 days of battles in protest about a theory!

 

[lockinlove]

But the opposite more often than not happens for me.

I hardly ever get over 100% RTP in these battles. When I play the same games for real money I am often up on 100 spins. I don't cash out and carry on playing so will eventually lose it again.

I find it hard to believe that Dan would put the reputation of VS at risk by giving out false information for the sake of 100 free spins at minimum bet value that can be won for the top prize. Too much to loose in my opinion.

I like Dan. Even though he didnt come and shovel my driveway when asked, I still like him.

And even if you are right, or I am right...... when the slots pay like to me in the battles, 754% 463% 212% 175% 202% rtp and on and on and then in money play those same games and always pay me like 67% 45% 72%....I have a hard time not at least questioning whats going on!!! And I believe you would too!

 

[interlog]

I like Dan. Even though he didnt come and shovel my driveway when asked, I still like him.

And even if you are right, or I am right when the slots pay like to me in the battles, 754% 463% 212% 175% 202% rtp and on and on and then in money play those same games and always pay me like 67% 45% 72%....I have a hard time not at least questioning whats going on!!! And I believe you would too!

No problem asking the question or even questioning it. But once the answer has been given. I would take the appropriate action depending on whether I believed the answer to be true or not.

Not specifically referring to you but there have been many topics on here about rigged games and even rigged casinos. Posters complaining about it but still carry on playing the game or playing at the casino. You would question why if they honestly hold that believe.

I have had a moan on the Bonanza topic and have questioned certain aspects of the game play. Depending on the answer from the BTG rep I either will continue or not playing it.

 

[geordiecolin]

I spent about £90 before I qualified for a full week of battles,but I must boycott the last 5 days of battles in protest about a theory!

I am super pissed off because a few days ago I spent £90 in order to qualify for a weeks worth of free roll tournament entries. I asked CS to check I had met the requirements and was told I have wagered more than the 500EUR so yes. Now,after two days I am met with "You have not met the wagering requirements"
I would have deposited again if I needed too if I was told the correct information. For me these free rolls limit my need to deposit and play elsewhere for the course of the 7 days. I know I am unlikely to recoup my deposits from free roll winnings so that's not why I play them.
How long have we complained about there not being a transparent facility on site to check on our qualifying progress? Why was I given the wrong information?
Your abused lover,Col x

 

[nikantw]

I am super pissed off because a few days ago I spent £90 in order to qualify for a weeks worth of free roll tournament entries. I asked CS to check I had met the requirements and was told I have wagered more than the 500EUR so yes. Now,after two days I am met with "You have not met the wagering requirements"
I would have deposited again if I needed too if I was told the correct information. For me these free rolls limit my need to deposit and play elsewhere for the course of the 7 days. I know I am unlikely to recoup my deposits from free roll winnings so that's not why I play them.
How long have we complained about there not being a transparent facility on site to check on our qualifying progress? Why was I given the wrong information?
Your abused lover,Col x

Maybe just a misunderstanding. They do a week long check. So if you wager 450 on Monday and 50 on Sunday, you qualify for just half a day of battles, because by Monday you "lose" the 450 wagered and you have only 50 for the "last 7 day" criteria. If you want to get 7 days of battles without any further wagering you must deposit 20 and wager 500 during the same day.

 

[geordiecolin]

Maybe just a misunderstanding. They do a week long check. So if you wager 450 on Monday and 50 on Sunday, you qualify for just half a day of battles, because by Monday you "lose" the 450 wagered and you have only 50 for the "last 7 day" criteria. If you want to get 7 days of battles without any further wagering you must deposit 20 and wager 500 during the same day.

My chat with CS was very specific. It is there for Dan to view. I asked if I had qualified for the 7 days and not the two days and was told I had met the requirements for 7 days. This will mean that due to not depositin for a few days my wagering to qualify for a full 7 days will have to start again or I just walk away.

 

[nikantw]

My chat with CS was very specific. It is there for Dan to view. I asked if I had qualified for the 7 days and not the two days and was told I had met the requirements for 7 days. This will mean that due to not depositin for a few days my wagering to qualify for a full 7 days will have to start again or I just walk away.

Seems to me like CS agent didn't understand your question properly. That is why I always ask for "my wagering last x days"

 

[geordiecolin]

Seems to me like CS agent didn't understand your question properly. That is why I always ask for "my wagering last x days"

Look Nikantw. Why are you questioning how I asked the question? Are you requiring a transcript before your willing to believe that I was thorough in seeking my exact requirements from their CS?
I am not about to make a fool of myself in here when Dan has the tools to embarrass me about it

 

[nikantw]

I like Dan. Even though he didnt come and shovel my driveway when asked, I still like him.

And even if you are right, or I am right...... when the slots pay like to me in the battles, 754% 463% 212% 175% 202% rtp and on and on and then in money play those same games and always pay me like 67% 45% 72%....I have a hard time not at least questioning whats going on!!! And I believe you would too!

Last 40 battles I won nothing when statistically It must be like 1 win every 5 battles. My real money play also around 70%. You have taken all my battle wins!!

 

[nikantw]

Look Nikantw. Why are you questioning how I asked the question? Are you requiring a transcript before your willing to believe that I was thorough in seeking my exact requirements from their CS?
I am not about to make a fool of myself in here when Dan has the tools to embarrass me about it

Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like that. Just to offer some general info for others that may need it (not you) and say that IMHO CS agent just made a mistake after probably answering the “what’s my wagering” question for 225th time. You are right BTW, if they show the wagering like they do with the cashback (must be easy) they will save a lot of time and money for themselves and complaints from us.

 

[nikantw]

Another battle, another @@ score.
Seriously now, WTF? 7 days battles without any fs won!!!

And that happens after half a days battles are taken away due to a "technical error" for the matter to be resolved in the near future, maybe even before 2020!

 

[geordiecolin]

Sorry, didn’t mean to sound like that. Just to offer some general info for others that may need it (not you) and say that IMHO CS agent just made a mistake after probably answering the “what’s my wagering” question for 225th time. You are right BTW, if they show the wagering like they do with the cashback (must be easy) they will save a lot of time and money for themselves and complaints from us.

Here is the chat log from a few days ago. How could I be any clearer about the information I was seeking?

22:26 Your Question: battles
22:26 Please wait, an operator will be with you shortly.
22:26 You are now chatting with Elin B (Customer Support) - English
22:26 Elin B: Hi Colin.
22:27 colin noble: hi i have spent about £85 over the last 24 hours and wonder if i have qualified for 7 days of free roll battles
22:27 Elin B: Can you please tell me your username, date of birth and last used deposit method.
22:27 colin noble: ..........
22:27 colin noble: ........
22:28 colin noble: visa
22:28 Elin B: Thanks, one moment.
22:32 Elin B: You have wagered 568,808EUR within the last 7 days so you should be able to play the free rolls.
22:32 colin noble: for a full week?
22:32 colin noble: cool thank you
22:32 colin noble: have a good shift


As 500 EUR qualifies for 7 days then where is there room for misunderstanding?

 

[spintee]

Here is the chat log from a few days ago. How could I be any clearer about the information I was seeking?

22:26 Your Question: battles
22:26 Please wait, an operator will be with you shortly.
22:26 You are now chatting with Elin B (Customer Support) - English
22:26 Elin B: Hi Colin.
22:27 colin noble: hi i have spent about £85 over the last 24 hours and wonder if i have qualified for 7 days of free roll battles
22:27 Elin B: Can you please tell me your username, date of birth and last used deposit method.
22:27 colin noble: ..........
22:27 colin noble: ........
22:28 colin noble: visa
22:28 Elin B: Thanks, one moment.
22:32 Elin B: You have wagered 568,808EUR within the last 7 days so you should be able to play the free rolls.
22:32 colin noble: for a full week?
22:32 colin noble: cool thank you
22:32 colin noble: have a good shift


As 500 EUR qualifies for 7 days then where is there room for misunderstanding?

Thats over half a million Euro

You may have spent over 500 euro in the last 7 days but tonight you may have only spent 100 euros due to spending 400 euros 7 days ago minus a few hours,

This shit is a rolling contract, what they should have is like a bar, one day it will move up what ever you spent,on the 8th day than the money you spent on the first day will go and just have your last 7 day there, So the bar will fluctuate on an hour basisis if you play diffrent times f the day,

At the moment the only way you going to know if quiifly for 7 days if you depo 20 and spend 500 in like 1 hr or so, you know you have a weeks worth than

 

[geordiecolin]

Thats over half a million Euro

You may have spent over 500 euro in the last 7 days but tonight you may have only spent 100 euros due to spending 400 euros 7 days ago minus a few hours,

This shit is a rolling contract, what they should have is like a bar, one day it will move up what ever you spent,on the 8th day than the money you spent on the first day will go and just have your last 7 day there, So the bar will fluctuate on an hour basisis if you play diffrent times f the day,

At the moment the only way you going to know if quiifly for 7 days if you depo 20 and spend 500 in like 1 hr or so, you know you have a weeks worth than

No mate. £80 was all deposited and wagered within an hour. Plus cashback,race winnings and free spins winnings.

 

[nikantw]

How can I avoid the tinfoil hat now?
Between my battle negative record, others 300% average battle score and casinos advertising "guaranteed bonus rounds", doesn't it make sense that they may have a pool of bonus rounds from the RNG and they just distribute those bonus rounds at will? TRTP stays the same and all. But good customers will get an extra bonus round or two (or 100).

 

[Jd666]

I was kicked off both DOA and that Elements battle.
Worse now than before the upgrade

 

[Steviedoo]

Battles tonite are slow and laggy.
Slots are useless too...new servers not working well I was told.

 

[spintee]

Terrible lag, very slow and now kicked

 

[kidgloves]

Whole site has just gone tits up for me.....