- Joined
- Dec 18, 2014
- Location
- Balcony
With all due respect, but you all sound a little naive. Do you really think that the online casino world is a "fluffy" paradise? 
Ever heard of syndicates or websites for members-only where things are shared and loopholes exposed on how to abuse promotions, freebies etc. With exact math models on what is achievable, what "investment" is needed etc..
If VS is closing 100 accounts, they'll just open 200 news ones - uncle, grandpa, nephews, friends, you name it. All verified, so legit. E.g. grandpa gets a new TV for 150 bucks and is happy as Larry (just an example). So the only way VS can counter the problem is by making it unprofitable or lower the profitablity so much that they lose interest.
Trust me, I know what I am talking about (from my very distant dark days). These are not penny pinchers and the 1Million VS suggested is what they found out, the total number is probably much higher.
Some weeks, they'll make less, some weeks more, but on average 500 - 1,000 EUR / month is easily possible. I lost count just how many times i "blew" a few bucks in the last week alone just from trophy FS and battle FS. If I would have kept it all, I'd have a nice chunk of cash right now. And by all means, I don't play all battles nor do I sit 48h at the table on a battle weekend.
Personally, I play at VS because I like to play there, no other reason. I feel very well treated, the entire team is very responsive, games galore, fast payments, easy promotions with no WR etc etc. The overall package is simply unbeatable. Yes, I could get a cashback deal at other places but overall it wouldn't be more. The usual deals are for 10% cashback if you wager xxx amount / week. Miss it and you get nada.
One reason we don't see it as much at VS is because it is spread over the week. I am getting close to 2.5Million wagered in just over 4 years and my total rewards in 2018 and 2017 worked out between 8 - 9% of my deposits (didn't do the numbers in 2015 and 2016). That is what a casino can do when all is cash, anything more would not be sustainable for a long time. Bonus casinos can calculate with a 25-30% ratio.
However, the way I see it, VS does not have to give me a single cent. There is no obligation whatosever. That is my starting point, anything I get is a "bonus" and I look at it like that, nothing more. Surely not as an entitlement.
Only my 2c.

Ever heard of syndicates or websites for members-only where things are shared and loopholes exposed on how to abuse promotions, freebies etc. With exact math models on what is achievable, what "investment" is needed etc..
If VS is closing 100 accounts, they'll just open 200 news ones - uncle, grandpa, nephews, friends, you name it. All verified, so legit. E.g. grandpa gets a new TV for 150 bucks and is happy as Larry (just an example). So the only way VS can counter the problem is by making it unprofitable or lower the profitablity so much that they lose interest.
Trust me, I know what I am talking about (from my very distant dark days). These are not penny pinchers and the 1Million VS suggested is what they found out, the total number is probably much higher.
Some weeks, they'll make less, some weeks more, but on average 500 - 1,000 EUR / month is easily possible. I lost count just how many times i "blew" a few bucks in the last week alone just from trophy FS and battle FS. If I would have kept it all, I'd have a nice chunk of cash right now. And by all means, I don't play all battles nor do I sit 48h at the table on a battle weekend.
Personally, I play at VS because I like to play there, no other reason. I feel very well treated, the entire team is very responsive, games galore, fast payments, easy promotions with no WR etc etc. The overall package is simply unbeatable. Yes, I could get a cashback deal at other places but overall it wouldn't be more. The usual deals are for 10% cashback if you wager xxx amount / week. Miss it and you get nada.
One reason we don't see it as much at VS is because it is spread over the week. I am getting close to 2.5Million wagered in just over 4 years and my total rewards in 2018 and 2017 worked out between 8 - 9% of my deposits (didn't do the numbers in 2015 and 2016). That is what a casino can do when all is cash, anything more would not be sustainable for a long time. Bonus casinos can calculate with a 25-30% ratio.
However, the way I see it, VS does not have to give me a single cent. There is no obligation whatosever. That is my starting point, anything I get is a "bonus" and I look at it like that, nothing more. Surely not as an entitlement.
Only my 2c.

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