Official Videoslots presents Battle of Slots!

[Jasminebed]

@Team.Videoslots , you have the total right to terminate any player's account for any reason, and pay any balance outstanding, to rid yourself of players you don't consider desirable. I would suggest you pay any cashback that would be later due as well, as we all "earn" our weekend booster. You don't have to throw us all under a bus.

You could consider adding a second tier of tournaments for players that earn more XP, with higher prizes. Alternatively, giving 10cent spins to bronze players, 20 cents to silver, $1 to gold, $2 to Diamond, or something along those lines.

Second chance tournaments for players that have lost $1000 in the past 30 days, but still did not achieve 2500xp points. I actually see pretty much nothing to reward players that play table games. Previously, I always assumed a VIP host took care of them, but you no longer have any as I understand it.

I think there are too many changes all at once, so it is hard to see anything of value, except the Tuesday freeroll. Which may even be less than you were handing out in Tuesday spins, but I've only seen one member prefer the Tuesday spins.

 

[steveh35]

@Team.Videoslots , you have the total right to terminate any player's account for any reason, and pay any balance outstanding, to rid yourself of players you don't consider desirable. I would suggest you pay any cashback that would be later due as well, as we all "earn" our weekend booster. You don't have to throw us all under a bus.

You could consider adding a second tier of tournaments for players that earn more XP, with higher prizes. Alternatively, giving 10cent spins to bronze players, 20 cents to silver, $1 to gold, $2 to Diamond, or something along those lines.

Second chance tournaments for players that have lost $1000 in the past 30 days, but still did not achieve 2500xp points. I actually see pretty much nothing to reward players that play table games. Previously, I always assumed a VIP host took care of them, but you no longer have any as I understand it.

I think there are too many changes all at once, so it is hard to see anything of value, except the Tuesday freeroll. Which may even be less than you were handing out in Tuesday spins, but I've only seen one member prefer the Tuesday spins.

They could just issue a wagering for the winnings if they think people are just withdrawing battle winnings for "income" 1x or 2x would surely sort that issue out.

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hi @Jasminebed

We appreciate your feedback regarding this and we will of course take this on board.

Br,
Team Videoslots

 

[Jono777]

They could just issue a wagering for the winnings if they think people are just withdrawing battle winnings for "income" 1x or 2x would surely sort that issue out.

Thing is wagering introduces a whole new can of worms, extra T&C's, extra security, extra scrutiny etc etc etc

I feel VS wishes to remain a 'cash only' site for as long as is realistically possible to avoid these "WR headaches" for not just their staff and management but also their loyal players.

I for one if sat at VS in the "big chair" would address these abusers via a monthly deposit tally as well as wagering. For example £200 in a month and wager 1K (just grabbing figures out of the air for now...)

Idea being that it will stand out the loyal players who deposit to actually PLAY rather than fulfill the bare minimal requirements to get their hands on the "freebies"

 

[paul7388]

I can see why you are making these changes VS and can perfectly understand why.

But you are offering these battles etc so surely you expect people to partake in them. Not everyone can afford to deposit thousands in a casino. So if you are offering certain rewards why are you surprised people are taking them.

For example if a person could only afford to gamble £50 a month then it stands to reason they would deposit at your casino for all the extra playtime and if they did take part in your battles and made like a £100 from them then i would expect most would withdraw.

In the end it was yourselves that created these battles etc. and it just works out that it is a way people that gamble with limited funds could take part. By all means change things so these people can not take part but i find it really bad that you have just about labelled anyone that does not deposit a fortune as an abuser.

But it is nice for everyone to know that basically if they do not deposit certain amounts a month and they take part in battles VS sees them all as abusers.

But you have already said you aim to get rid of them so if any players are only depositing about £100 a month and taking part in all the freerolls it looks like they should be expecting account closures soon. And this is from someone that has not attacked your casino and has been more likely to actually defend you. But labelling everyone that does not deposit loads and enters battles that you have made available for them as an abuser is totally wrong.

 

[Supababe]

Changes come into force of the 1st of April did it say?

Here’s hoping for it all being an April fools day joke x

 

[Lincolnuk]

I would not even know what my average xp is over 2 weeks so it may or may not effect me

 

[paul7388]

In fact VS you have practically spent the last few years using this forum to promote these battles and this forum has got you many new players.

Every time there has been a battle weekend it had been promoted on here and many times VS has made a big deal out of fact you only needed to have met certain requirements to take part.

So is it a real surprise many have took you up on it. And then you now label them all as abusers. Sorry that is just not right.

 

[Tirilej]

I can see why you are making these changes VS and can perfectly understand why.

But you are offering these battles etc so surely you expect people to partake in them. Not everyone can afford to deposit thousands in a casino. So if you are offering certain rewards why are you surprised people are taking them.

For example if a person could only afford to gamble £50 a month then it stands to reason they would deposit at your casino for all the extra playtime and if they did take part in your battles and made like a £100 from them then i would expect most would withdraw.

In the end it was yourselves that created these battles etc. and it just works out that it is a way people that gamble with limited funds could take part. By all means change things so these people can not take part but i find it really bad that you have just about labelled anyone that does not deposit a fortune as an abuser.

But it is nice for everyone to know that basically if they do not deposit certain amounts a month and they take part in battles VS sees them all as abusers.

But you have already said you aim to get rid of them so if any players are only depositing about £100 a month and taking part in all the freerolls it looks like they should be expecting account closures soon. And this is from someone that has not attacked your casino and has been more likely to actually defend you. But labelling everyone that does not deposit loads and enters battles that you have made available for them as an abuser is totally wrong.

Well said Paul! Even if I shouldn't feel that way I still are waiting for that message telling me that my account is closed.
I assume everyone that have complained about anything in this thread have the same fear. At least low rollers like us.
Sorry VS for playing your battles!

 

[Jono777]

I personally don't think they are labeling any of low rollers or those with limited budgets as part of their collective 'abusers'

More likely those who deposit just enough to cover the required entry wagering, play low risk slots even if it means grinding for hours and then pretty much withdraw anything that is left (if anything)

THEN

When the battles do start, more or less playing as much of the 48 hours that is physically possible, hardly missing any battles at all, no sleep, etc etc

THEN

Play their rewards and withdraw the lot.

This is my take on this situation, could be wrong but think I am on the right track pretty much

It is these sort of players who spoil it for us genuine ones

 

[paul7388]

I personally don't think they are labeling any of low rollers or those with limited budgets as part of their collective 'abusers'

More likely those who deposit just enough to cover the required entry wagering, play low risk slots even if it means grinding for hours and then pretty much withdraw anything that is left (if anything)

THEN

When the battles do start, more or less playing as much of the 48 hours that is physically possible, hardly missing any battles at all, no sleep, etc etc

THEN

Play their rewards and withdraw the lot.



This is my take on this situation, could be wrong but think I am on the right track pretty much

Well Jon they certainly did not make it sound like that.

 

[Jono777]

Well Jon they certainly did not make it sound like that.

Not everyone is as good at English as me, nor as 'peace keeping' -

I understand your view point totally mate and respect it too, lets see if my previous post attracts a reply or at least a 'like' from VS then we may have a clearer idea whether I was close or way off the mark!

 

[steveh35]

I personally don't think they are labeling any of low rollers or those with limited budgets as part of their collective 'abusers'

More likely those who deposit just enough to cover the required entry wagering, play low risk slots even if it means grinding for hours and then pretty much withdraw anything that is left (if anything)

THEN

When the battles do start, more or less playing as much of the 48 hours that is physically possible, hardly missing any battles at all, no sleep, etc etc

THEN

Play their rewards and withdraw the lot.

This is my take on this situation, could be wrong but think I am on the right track pretty much

It is these sort of players who spoil it for us genuine ones

So spending all that money to acheive the wagering requirement, maybe depositing more than was intended, then spending two days of your life building up rewards and another couple of hours using them are "spoiling" it WTF?

What are you advocating if someone achieves the xp they should only play for a short period of time over the weekend in case they get too many rewards and win something, then should feel guilty as it was not their money in the first place, isn't the whole point in taking part that you might actually win something and feel good about it rather than wonder if VS might think they are cheating them or anything you win you should put it all back into the casino which is very gamble responsible.

 

[Jono777]

Nope, you have misunderstood me. ^^

I will never feel guilty winning, ever.

I would feel guilty, if as soon as I met the required wagering, I withdrew to the penny and did not play at all the rest of the qualifying period.

I would feel guilty if I played 40 out of the 48 hours of battles

I would feel guilty if I racked up 100 rewards, withdrew every penny from them and did not deposit nor play again until the next battle weekend / qualifying period.

There is a difference between being rewarded for loyalty and exploiting 'loopholes' / taking advantage.

Some will agree, others won't but this is my take on this situation. Best to leave it there for those who don't share or possibly not fully understand my views.

 

[deleted_user-20231116]

I personally don't think they are labeling any of low rollers or those with limited budgets as part of their collective 'abusers'

More likely those who deposit just enough to cover the required entry wagering, play low risk slots even if it means grinding for hours and then pretty much withdraw anything that is left (if anything)

THEN

When the battles do start, more or less playing as much of the 48 hours that is physically possible, hardly missing any battles at all, no sleep, etc etc

THEN

Play their rewards and withdraw the lot.

This is my take on this situation, could be wrong but think I am on the right track pretty much

It is these sort of players who spoil it for us genuine ones

Getting rid of these players seems very fair to me, as it would give all the normal players a higher chance of reaching a winning position in the battles.

I checked all my past months wagering, and i'm at 4800-6000 euro wagering a month, with a few crazy ones like this march where im at 22000 euro wagering, with a 100 euro a week deposit limit.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

suppose the only positive for them raising the xp requirement to 2500xp over a month is that there will be a lot less people playing the freerolls.
youll probably win a prize much more often
but yeah im not happy with vs really
hope some other casinos can do some freerolls or something.
i know of one casino that offers cashback on your wagering something like 2 euro back for every 70 euro wagered.
thats quite a lot when you consider we will have to wager 2500 euros to even play the freerolls.
not sure how many time you can qualify for that cashback though ill have to see.

im sure the other casinos are thinking about new promotions all of the time.
it might be the case where videoslots will not be the number one casino in a few months.
i dont think people are happy with them now.

 

[brianmon]

Well I may have been labeled as one of the negative posters.
But have never abused the battles. IF I happen to qualify, I'll play some battles. But have never deposited, just in order to qualify.
In fact I have deposit limits at VS, and play 96%+ games. So it's not very often I do qualify.
As far as the battle weekends go... The last one I qualified for, you'd be lucky if I played more than 10 battles, the whole weekend. I don't normally have the time of patients to play them.

This sounds more like VS trying to cover up all the negative changes and posts. By blaming them on sour grapes by imaginary abusers

 

[spoo42]

I'm a low roller, that will most likely (but not completely), be affected by this huge increase in wagering from 500xp to 2500xp. But i kinda'ish understand the reasons
for changing things. Over the last 6 months or so ive surpassed this amount 3 times, twice by quite a margin, but the rest has been lower. I like to know ive met
requirements for freeroll sng's - but I always continue playing until my balance has run out and never scarper as soon as Ive made requirements. (like yesterday I
met this weekends sng requirements but played my money away, then depositing again today. )

Ive never made alot from freerolls/sngs (particularly the regular freerolls), and anything I withdraw usually gets redeposited the following week or two. Yes i do take
part a fair amount over battle weekends for example, but not to the points of losing sleep (due to sitting there 48 hours) or obsessing over it. But i m also not
going to say anything about anyone that has simply met requirements set by Vs on battles, then stopped, as people have only complied with them. Yeah it looks
off, but it was within the requirements, so i dunno.

So suggestions that might be of use (or maybe not lol ).. I'm not very good at this kinda thing, but if I had anything to suggest, maybe the following..

Maybe you could have a tiered system for access to freerolls and the sng freeroll battles? If you make 2500xp over the previous 30 days, you get all access. If you only
make say, 1250xp 30 days prior, you only get the twice a month freeroll sng's. If you only make 500xp you get access to say, the battle weekend. Something like that. Im
not a fan of wagering requirements so personally i wouldn't go that way. But something like the above (or similar) might be an idea!

I do like Vs a lot, and i hope you can work something out for those low rollers like me that can still take part in some of these battles/promos even if to a lesser degree,
although i hope i sometimes surpass 2500xp as i have done a few times the last few months.

 

[nikantw]

I believe the big difference is that genuine players like to play.
And I believe VS know the difference also.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

I'm a low roller, that will most likely (but not completely), be affected by this huge increase in wagering from 500xp to 2500xp. But i kinda'ish understand the reasons
for changing things. Over the last 6 months or so ive surpassed this amount 3 times, twice by quite a margin, but the rest has been lower. I like to know ive met
requirements for freeroll sng's - but I always continue playing until my balance has run out and never scarper as soon as Ive made requirements. (like yesterday I
met this weekends sng requirements but played my money away, then depositing again today. )

Ive never made alot from freerolls/sngs (particularly the regular freerolls), and anything I withdraw usually gets redeposited the following week or two. Yes i do take
part a fair amount over battle weekends for example, but not to the points of losing sleep (due to sitting there 48 hours) or obsessing over it. But i m also not
going to say anything about anyone that has simply met requirements set by Vs on battles, then stopped, as people have only complied with them. Yeah it looks
off, but it was within the requirements, so i dunno.

So suggestions that might be of use (or maybe not lol ).. I'm not very good at this kinda thing, but if I had anything to suggest, maybe the following..

Maybe you could have a tiered system for access to freerolls and the sng freeroll battles? If you make 2500xp over the previous 30 days, you get all access. If you only
make say, 1250xp 30 days prior, you only get the twice a month freeroll sng's. If you only make 500xp you get access to say, the battle weekend. Something like that. Im
not a fan of wagering requirements so personally i wouldn't go that way. But something like the above (or similar) might be an idea!

I do like Vs a lot, and i hope you can work something out for those low rollers like me that can still take part in some of these battles/promos even if to a lesser degree,
although i hope i sometimes surpass 2500xp as i have done a few times the last few months.

the battle weekend is the best thing in terms of vs so there would be no point to have that as a 500xp requirement
that would have to be the 2500xp requirement.
basically you can play 12 battles per hour normally in the battle weekend and a third of the time you should get a prize .

the freerolls are just not the same. you can win 100 free spins but its highly unlikely and i cant even remember the last time i got in the top 10 in a normal freeroll, most of the time it is just 5 free spins if you are lucky.

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

In no way do we mean that everyone trying to take part by just reaching the minimum requirements are abusers, simply that we have had to make changes because our Battles are being abused. The changes we have made to prevent this does, unfortunately, affect honest players and we are open to suggestions and ideas on how to resolve this through different ways. We are trying to make changes that add value as we have raised the bar to participate, and we appreciate the feedback we receive from you all.

@Tirilej Please understand that we will not close an account due to winning or similar, only if there is abuse. Taking part in our promotions by just qualifying was never thought of as abuse, but due to the way we previously offered these promotions, it was abusable and we had to make changes.

@paul7388 We have tried to cater to the members at this forum by providing additional competitions and prizes, as we want to give back to you all for the dialogue and honest feedback we receive here.

@Jono777 You are 100% correct. That is what we mean, sorry if it came out to sound like anything else. These players we are talking about profits 1000 - 2000 Eur per month from our Battles for 40 Eur deposit and have been able to get out over €1m together, these funds should have gone to the players at VS, the players that contribute to VS eco-system.

@steveh35, they have not cheated VS, they have followed the terms, but we need to change the terms now due to these players. So they destroy for others.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Hello everyone,

In no way do we mean that everyone trying to take part by just reaching the minimum requirements are abusers, simply that we have had to make changes because our Battles are being abused. The changes we have made to prevent this does, unfortunately, affect honest players and we are open to suggestions and ideas on how to resolve this through different ways. We are trying to make changes that add value as we have raised the bar to participate, and we appreciate the feedback we receive from you all.

@Tirilej Please understand that we will not close an account due to winning or similar, only if there is abuse. Taking part in our promotions by just qualifying was never thought of as abuse, but due to the way we previously offered these promotions, it was abusable and we had to make changes.

@paul7388 We have tried to cater to the members at this forum by providing additional competitions and prizes, as we want to give back to you all for the dialogue and honest feedback we receive here.

@Jono777 You are 100% correct. That is what we mean, sorry if it came out to sound like anything else. These players we are talking about profits 1000 - 2000 Eur per month from our Battles for 40 Eur deposit and have been able to get out over €1m together, these funds should have gone to the players at VS, the players that contribute to VS eco-system.

@steveh35, they have not cheated VS, they have followed the terms, but we need to change the terms now due to these players. So they destroy for others.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

cant see how anyone could profit over 1000 euro a month from freerolls by depositing 40 euro.

 

[CongoGB]

Couldn't agree more with Jono.

I'd suggest it is very easy to spot the abusers. Deposit a relatively small amount, play to exactly the amount you need to hit the required XP (this would've been much easier for the abusers with the old wagering method), then withdraw any remaining in your account.

Now play just freerolls. Hammer it constantly throughout the 48 hour freerolls, probably using "shifts".

Repeat every time your XP total runs out and you lose access to freerolls.

Genuine players do not play like that, and I'd imagine genuine = 99.9% of players.

 

[spoo42]

the battle weekend is the best thing in terms of vs so there would be no point to have that as a 500xp requirement
that would have to be the 2500xp requirement.
basically you can play 12 battles per hour normally in the battle weekend and a third of the time you should get a prize .

the freerolls are just not the same. you can win 100 free spins but its highly unlikely and i cant even remember the last time i got in the top 10 in a normal freeroll, most of the time it is just 5 free spins if you are lucky.

Its just an example, an idea. Don't read too much into numbers or what i wrote - it was to give an idea, a suggestion, that giving different levels of access may work for those not making the 2500xp requirement, but still give something
to those that have got so far into their xp.

 

[CongoGB]

cant see how anyone could profit over 1000 euro a month from freerolls by depositing 40 euro.

With the old freerolls where you could win free spins every 2 hours, probability is that you'll get a half decent win a few times a week. especially if you somehow play all of them (again, "shift" work).

Then constantly playing the 48 hour battles, along with the midweek evening battles, you can end up with a LOT of free spins.

Not difficult to see how that could turn into a very good amount of money.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

really cant understand how anyone could make 1000 euros from freerolls per month with a 40 euro deposit.

you are probably taking about a few people who got very lucky.

you should have just banned them players and then not punish everybody else

 

[Tirilej]

Hello everyone,

In no way do we mean that everyone trying to take part by just reaching the minimum requirements are abusers, simply that we have had to make changes because our Battles are being abused. The changes we have made to prevent this does, unfortunately, affect honest players and we are open to suggestions and ideas on how to resolve this through different ways. We are trying to make changes that add value as we have raised the bar to participate, and we appreciate the feedback we receive from you all.

@Tirilej Please understand that we will not close an account due to winning or similar, only if there is abuse. Taking part in our promotions by just qualifying was never thought of as abuse, but due to the way we previously offered these promotions, it was abusable and we had to make changes.

@paul7388 We have tried to cater to the members at this forum by providing additional competitions and prizes, as we want to give back to you all for the dialogue and honest feedback we receive here.

@Jono777 You are 100% correct. That is what we mean, sorry if it came out to sound like anything else. These players we are talking about profits 1000 - 2000 Eur per month from our Battles for 40 Eur deposit and have been able to get out over €1m together, these funds should have gone to the players at VS, the players that contribute to VS eco-system.

@steveh35, they have not cheated VS, they have followed the terms, but we need to change the terms now due to these players. So they destroy for others.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

Your mistake was to mention the negative posts because we all make negative posts these days because of all of the changes.

I understand what you mean. Sorry if I got upset. I know my account wouldn't be closed

I do intend to play 40 hours this weekend though and cash out every cent. I hope that's fine

 

[spoo42]

These players we are talking about profits 1000 - 2000 Eur per month from our Battles for 40 Eur deposit and have been able to get out over €1m together, these funds should have gone to the players at VS, the players that contribute to VS eco-system.

really?

With the old freerolls where you could win free spins every 2 hours, probability is that you'll get a half decent win a few times a week. especially if you somehow play all of them (again, "shift" work).
Then constantly playing the 48 hour battles, along with the midweek evening battles, you can end up with a LOT of free spins.

I play a fair amount over a battle weekend, but i also like my sleep and food and going out for a walk etc more.

 

[steveh35]

At the present time I work for 1p above minimum wage therefore I have to set limits on my account, not something I want to do but personal circumstances dictate this for me, so if I win a few hundred pounds on a casino i want to feel good about it not feel guilty, if this comes from battle weekends I should feel confident that I can either decide to play it or withdraw though most of the time I play through it at least once and withdraw some where possible.

I choose to spend the battle weekends playing as much as possible though even I do not sit there for the whole 48 hours I do play as much as possible and set myself reward targets, I am a lowroller by circumstance not choice and so to some people winning £100 or £200 might be nothing to me that is a big deal.

This is why I choose VS as it give me the chance to win something from a few spins in these battles.

 

[paul7388]

Hello everyone,

In no way do we mean that everyone trying to take part by just reaching the minimum requirements are abusers, simply that we have had to make changes because our Battles are being abused. The changes we have made to prevent this does, unfortunately, affect honest players and we are open to suggestions and ideas on how to resolve this through different ways. We are trying to make changes that add value as we have raised the bar to participate, and we appreciate the feedback we receive from you all.

@Tirilej Please understand that we will not close an account due to winning or similar, only if there is abuse. Taking part in our promotions by just qualifying was never thought of as abuse, but due to the way we previously offered these promotions, it was abusable and we had to make changes.

@paul7388 We have tried to cater to the members at this forum by providing additional competitions and prizes, as we want to give back to you all for the dialogue and honest feedback we receive here.

@Jono777 You are 100% correct. That is what we mean, sorry if it came out to sound like anything else. These players we are talking about profits 1000 - 2000 Eur per month from our Battles for 40 Eur deposit and have been able to get out over €1m together, these funds should have gone to the players at VS, the players that contribute to VS eco-system.

@steveh35, they have not cheated VS, they have followed the terms, but we need to change the terms now due to these players. So they destroy for others.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

VS i have never said anything bad against yourselves in fact if you read over the years i am one of the ones that constantly defends yourselves and tells people to get a grip when they keep hassling your reps for nothing.

I have time and again praised your casinos for all they do for the members here and the promotions etc.

I have even had countless discussions on here with members defending you and explaining why things are getting cut as i could not see how you could survive with all the battle weekends etc from amount that needed wagered.

So i fully understand the reasons behind it. Just surprised that it took so long to change.

But i still find your post totally wrong. Maybe it was the way it was worded but you basically said anyone that meets minimum requirements for battles is an abuser. You then basically said you are looking to get rid of anyone that does not fit a certain criteria. So yes i think that is wrong.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

With the old freerolls where you could win free spins every 2 hours, probability is that you'll get a half decent win a few times a week. especially if you somehow play all of them (again, "shift" work).

Then constantly playing the 48 hour battles, along with the midweek evening battles, you can end up with a LOT of free spins.

Not difficult to see how that could turn into a very good amount of money.

you can actually work out how much youll make over a battle weekend quite easily
10 people battle 3 prizes, you win a third of the time. you can play 6 of these per hour as an average, 10 min per battle
so you should get 10 free spins from the 10 mans per hour on average
the same for the 30 player freerolls
20 free spins at 20 cents per hour x 48 you get around 1000 free spins at 20 cents

thats if you play for 48 hours no sleep at all and you play non stop without missing a single freeroll

no where close to 1000 euros


the most you can win on a freeroll is 100 free spins youll get that maybe once a month if you play every freeroll and you even have to be lucky . most of the time you are winning 5 free spins every few freerolls.

 

[Mr Wild]

you can actually work out how much youll make over a battle weekend quite easily
10 people battle 3 prizes, you win a third of the time. you can play 6 of these per hour as an average, 10 min per battle
so you should get 10 free spins from the 10 mans per hour on average
the same for the 30 player freerolls
20 free spins at 20 cents per hour x 48 you get around 1000 free spins at 20 cents

thats if you play for 48 hours no sleep at all and you play non stop without missing a single freeroll

no where close to 1000 euros


the most you can win on a freeroll is 100 free spins youll get that maybe once a month if you play every freeroll and you even have to be lucky . most of the time you are winning 5 free spins every few freerolls.

Add 300 - 600 accounts to that and every single battle played the last 2-3 years. These are groups not single players. €300 is a months wage in some countries.

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

@IM_SPORTS Wagering €2,500 to get access, progress and rewads to Freeroll Battles, SnG Weekend, Madness Tuesdays, Madness Weekends, Happy Hour Battles, Clash of Spins, The Wheel of Jackpots and our Weekend Booster, we give a lot back, that is a fact. We are not trying to reduce our promos, we are trying to make sure the right players benefit from it.

@paul7388 It was never our intention to imply that, and we do not consider anyone taking part in our promotions by just qualifying an abuser or similar. We apologize that message came out wrong, we did not mean it like that.

@brianmon We are not claiming everyone who has posted anything negative about us is in any way affiliated with the people who have been abusing, we expect to hear the harsh truth from you guys when we have slipped up or made mistakes. We appreciate the dialogue and feedback we receive.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Add 300 - 600 accounts to that and every single battle played the last 2-3 years. These are groups not single players. €300 is a months wage in some countries.

they must be dedicated

 

[tooky]

@Team.Videoslots
"Wagering €2,500 to get access, progress and rewads to Freeroll Battles, SnG Weekend, Madness Tuesdays, Madness Weekends, Happy Hour Battles, Clash of Spins, The Wheel of Jackpots and our Weekend Booster, we give a lot back, that is a fact."

So clash of spins, wheel of jackpots, weekend booster will be affected by 2500 XP aswell ?

 

[shadow123]

Can just point out that if these figures are correct, increasing the xp will have little effect on the problem.
You say some players are making 1000 euros a month,upping the xp will just mean they make 900 euros.
Also it would have been so much better if the reasons for changes had been explained at the time they
were made.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

also you have added a few things that is great like the tuesday madness it is good (not too happy with last weeks winner being the same player in first place today? )
but yeah
you have also lowered RTP on certain games like book or dead which i like and lowering RTP is a huge issue


Book of dead rtp 94.25% on VS now
96.21% on any other casino

thats just one game to mention

 

[brianmon]

also you have added a few things that is great like the tuesday madness it is good (not too happy with last weeks winner being the same player in first place today? )
but yeah
you have also lowered RTP on certain games like book or dead which i like and lowering RTP is a huge issue


Book of dead rtp 94.25% on VS now
96.21% on any other casino

thats just one game to mention

Actually, that player has dropped down to second place now (maybe the substitute BOT has been brought in, to dilute the suspicion, lol)

And to be fair to VS, the secondary RTP setting for PnG games is used by plenty of other casinos, many of whom are CM Accredited

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hello everyone,

@tooky No they are not affected by the threshold.

@shadow123 As we mentioned before, we are open for suggestions on how to tackle the problem. Maybe we instead should put a limit on how many Battles you can play as we need to do something otherwise we can't keep these types of promotions.

@IM_SPORTS We hope to be able to make more changes and promotions that you guys like, Tuesday Madness has been received well. Regarding the winner, this simply comes down to luck, but there is still a lot of time left of the Battle

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

 

[colinsunderland]

Add 300 - 600 accounts to that and every single battle played the last 2-3 years. These are groups not single players. €300 is a months wage in some countries.

ok, so if you can identify them, as you obviously can or you couldn't make that comment, any reason why a bonus ban (to include all promotions) can't be done? Rather than 'punish' all your loyal players?

 

[09237653]

Lowers RTP on some of the most popular games - wonders why players play less...

 

[Jono777]

we need to do something otherwise we can't keep these types of promotions.

Ok so slightly different scenario here but PLEASE do not get rid of the special wheel till I finally get to the level I am working so, so hard towards (21)

Once I get there and spin it, you can scrap every reward going

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Lowers RTP on some of the most popular games - wonders why players play less...

yeah im actually done with VS.
didnt realize they lowered the RTP on 4 provider games including play n go which is one of my fav providers.

plenty of other to casinos to play at. that actually respect the players.
obviously if you are not in the UK then this RTP change may not apply to you.

 

[IM_SPORTS]

ok, so if you can identify them, as you obviously can or you couldn't make that comment, any reason why a bonus ban (to include all promotions) can't be done? Rather than 'punish' all your loyal players?

Right?

 

[IM_SPORTS]

Actually, that player has dropped down to second place now (maybe the substitute BOT has been brought in, to dilute the suspicion, lol)

And to be fair to VS, the secondary RTP setting for PnG games is used by plenty of other casinos, many of whom are CM Accredited

wanna name those casinos for me ?

because the ones i have looked at all run at the normal rtp of 96% not 94% like vs

 

[colinsunderland]

wanna name those casinos for me ?

because the ones i have looked at all run at the normal rtp of 96% not 94% like vs

There are a few, but are few and far between, BetVictor as an example of a large site, is on 94% setting.

 

[brianmon]

wanna name those casinos for me ?

because the ones i have looked at all run at the normal rtp of 96% not 94% like vs

Off the top of my head....
PlayOjo, SlotsMagic and all the other Skill-on-net sites (most of whom are non-accredited)
CasinoLuck, NextCasino, WildSlots and all the other AG sites (most of whom are non-accredited)
Betat and SlottyVegas (previously accredited)

But there are also plenty of, not necessarily CM Accredited. But reasonably respectable casinos, who use the same lower settings, such as Daub Alderney group and Bear Group

 

[Team.Videoslots]

Hello Colinsunderland.

Thanks for the suggestion, the issue with this is that the promotions are still abusable as we are only treating the symptoms.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

 

[colinsunderland]

Hello Colinsunderland.

Thanks for the suggestion, the issue with this is that the promotions are still abusable as we are only treating the symptoms.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.

We shall agree to disagree on this then, it seems like you are using a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me though, as it's the genuine players who are being penalised.
If I were making £1000-£2000 from a £40 deposit, I would still be happy to make £1000-£2000 from £200 in deposits or even £500 in deposits. I fail to see how the changes address the abuse, to me, all I see is the abusers will make slightly less per month, and genuine players lose out.

 

[brianmon]

@Team.Videoslots
Why not just limit the amount of winnings from freespins from battles and battle weekends to a certain amount.
or even a multiple of the deposits made in the last 7 days, say 10x or maybe even 5x, plus a minimum amount of 1x deposit

£40 deposited in the last 7 days means a maximum of £400/£200 winnings from freespins from battles.

If they've deposited £40 to qualify at the beginning of the month and not made any other deposit in the following weeks, then the maximum payable would be $400/£200 (or whatever multiple) within those 7 days and £40 after that initial 7 days.

I'm sure most regular players would be happy with £200 extra