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Hello everyone,

As we have been expanding into more regulated markets, we have unfortunately not had the resources to sustain different RTPs for all the different markets. Due to this we decided to make the RTP the same for all our markets.

Best regards,
Team Videoslots.
I personally don't buy it, you got away with lowering the RTP in one market and I bet you had every intention to do the same for all from the beginning, it's was just a matter of when. Then again I have never run an online casino but I do think a lot has to do with greed and how far can you push it. It's very noticeable and has been for some time. I just can imagine how poor playtime will be with Videoslots in the future.
 
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Well fast cashouts might be great but with those rtps ...what cashouts?

Play n go
Red tiger
Pragmatic

Are there any other providers that you have lowered the rtp?

IGT was also included in the original list of providers that would get lower rtp.
 
I presume the standardisation to the higher RTP's was off the table pretty quickly? :p

Yeah, some may say 'well that's the way places are going to survive' but it's pretty moot when you can go to other places who haven't done this.

Personally, I've gave VS a tenner over the last 3 months; i got to level 21 and that's been it. Funnily enough, the allure of 10p battles for 2,500 wagering hasn't been enough to entice me back.
 
If you think how RTP works (can read all about it in the thread in my signature), you may wonder:

If I play long enough I will lose my deposit, no matter if the RTP is 94% or 97%. Why the change?

Obviously the answer is: Because with 94% you will lose a lot faster, like half the time faster! ;)

Also, this is why the havy unreasonable taxes on gambling are dangerous for the players.
 
VS have the jackpot version which is why it is much lower.

That made me look and I see no jackpot anywhere. Only for UK players maybe?
Roguebet has it and the RTP is 1% lower than VS so I think the 1% for the jackpot contribution is correct.

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There are some big differences with Red Tigers rtp,s ,think at Ladbrokes some games with the jackpot are
showing as below 92%, dont think Red Tiger are doing themselves any favours shaving off 1% and running
at levels as low as that as the average player has next to no chance of winning a jackpot and just end up
with games that play shit.
 
Just watched chops vid.

I wasn’t aware myself but as a UK player I pretty much gave up depositing at videoslots when I found out we were getting fucked over the first time round.

The problem I guess is that all the thousands of casual players that still play at videoslots will be completely unaware of what’s happened, and I guess videoslots won’t be in a hurry to tell them.

Ur now basically playing the equivalent of service station %ages in the online world!!!

Why on earth would anybody in the ‘know’ choose to deposit there knowing they can simply log in somewhere else and get a much fairer and longer stint elsewhere.

Disgraceful IMO. Hope it catches up with them.
 
And people will still vote them Casino of the year like they did last year.

I voted VideoSlots last year, but no way could I do that this year. This forum and the CM brand is built on trust and fair play so it would be against the ethics.

However, VideoSlots is still my go-to site everyday and luckily I only play slots which haven't been nerfed yet!
 
Well, to the average Joe, reducing RTP isn't going to phase them terribly. Slot designers quite clearly think we're chumps with their modern money-hoover creations, and so punters will play them regardless and fill companies' coffers with blissful indifference.

And as mentioned prior, your average un-clued-up punter isn't going to scoff at a couple of % reduction off RTP, so long as the games are bright and 'entertaining'.

So basically all VS are doing is looking at the bigger picture and pool of players and thinking 'What the hell do they care'
 
I wouldn't play Red Tiger slots even if they were on 101%, so it makes no difference to me

But I cannot understand why providers can't just state 93% + 2% = 95% for slots that have linked jackpots. How hard can it be to inform the player properly?

And why the fuck IGT have to show a range instead of the exact RTP% God only knows. I simply won't play any of their slots because I'm scared it might be the lowest end of the range. I'm sure many other players feel the same. Just show the exact value for fuck's sake. You're costing yourself money, and your games are shit.
 
What they have done with the RTP's should be noted in their review. Players should be aware of this dodgy move by Videoslots. Almost all my deposits have been going to Videoslots until recently. Now about 50% deposits going to Playojo. Videoslots is not a player casino like once was. For Videoslots to sneak these lower RTP in just shows you that they really don't care for there players and they have become greedy bastards!!!!!!!!
 
What they have done with the RTP's should be noted in their review. Players should be aware of this dodgy move by Videoslots. Almost all my deposits have been going to Videoslots until recently. Now about 50% deposits going to Playojo. Videoslots is not a player casino like once was. For Videoslots to sneak these lower RTP in just shows you that they really don't care for there players and they have become greedy bastards!!!!!!!!

Uh, im not sure Playojo is the place to turn to if you want highest rtp.
They use low rtp. Atleast for me (sweden)
 
So bad just seen degsys video on YouTube have to get my fix on a Saturday lol videoslots rtp that's a disgrace always Been a tad iffy about there site since I joined ages ago never see bonuses or offers and the machines always seemed tight as hell but now it's very clear why
Some machines need a higher return due to there chronic volatility now those machines are just a waste of time as they are hard enough to get anywhere on with those dropping as well to rediculas levels there's no point playing
Well that's me done there also just leave my account sitting there rusting
Thanks for the info
 
Hi @Team.Videoslots.

Like a bunch of people here at the time, I registered with VS during your baptism by fire (that was many moons ago). I can safely say that over the years I've played (and lost) more money at your casino than all the other online casinos combined.

I'm done with you though. Messing with the RTP yet again tells me that you don't know how to handle your problems properly. That's the cheap, easy way out and considering how many people won't know and/or won't understand how it works, that's just plain unethical. Bye.
 
Team Videoslots can you tell us were in the news page the recent changes in RTP was posted?

I sent a e-mail to support to let Videoslots know how disgusted I am of them lowering RTP again for the 2nd time and the reply I got back from support says this.

Whenever we make changes, such as adjustments to the RTP of any game, the information is shared via our official News page, as well as communicated separately in few selected casino forums by our casino representatives.

This is exactly the reply I got so Team Videoslots were is it on your news page? also, what are the few casino forums that a casino representative has shared this change in lowering RTP?

Please share it with us! thank you!!
 
I couldn't find it in their news archive, it's possible it was buried away as part of another announcement though.

It's a proper dirty move as far as I'm concerned. I'll be playing later today, but my deposit won't be at Videoslots.
 
Well it's unique in that if you want to play Red Tiger slots at a 93% RTP at a top accredited casino, only Videoslots offers that experience.

I've written them a new tagline.

'Set fire to your money faster than ever before, choose Videoslots!'
 
Seems to me VS are determined to maintain their profit figures whatever it takes instead of looking at the big picture.
Perhaps they are hoping that there are enough people in the player base who dont know or dont care about rtp levels
but the biggest effect is playtime for a given deposit, dont know the maths for a 4% difference but it will cut that playtime
big time.Eventually players will realize this and try elsewhere.
 
Team Videoslots can you tell us were in the news page the recent changes in RTP was posted?

I sent a e-mail to support to let Videoslots know how disgusted I am of them lowering RTP again for the 2nd time and the reply I got back from support says this.

Whenever we make changes, such as adjustments to the RTP of any game, the information is shared via our official News page, as well as communicated separately in few selected casino forums by our casino representatives.

This is exactly the reply I got so Team Videoslots were is it on your news page? also, what are the few casino forums that a casino representative has shared this change in lowering RTP?

Please share it with us! thank you!!

The problem with these guys is they want everyone else to fit the bill for them.

They pay their affiliates the lowest in the industry... courtesy of sneaking in a 25% reduction while they were revamping their back end... they did it covertly and hoped nobody noticed.

Now it's on to the players... subtly as usual. When they made their first change... they even disabled their tourney chats to basically silence everyone wanting to speak up.

Every other reputable group else operating those markets have to deal with it and provide for the tax costs etc.... but not Videoslots... YOU as the player also need to take on some costs.. just like their partners.

I honestly would have thought after they ripped off affiliates there was no need to find any more mules to carry THEIR cost burden.

But now retroactively applying it across more markets who are not even liable for taxation is basically trying to milk every cow they can.

And like the last time... when I spoke out about it, it will probably turn out to be someone trawling my websites to find errors as backlash :rolleyes:

Nate
 
I haven't really played at VS for over a year now but the question that springs to mind is if the likes of Casumo and Leo Vegas can operate on the higher RTP, what makes VS so different that they feel they need to more than double their house edge in comparison to the other two, just as an example.
 
I haven't really played at VS for over a year now but the question that springs to mind is if the likes of Casumo and Leo Vegas can operate on the higher RTP, what makes VS so different that they feel they need to more than double their house edge in comparison to the other two, just as an example.
Leo vegas have their fingers in a few pies like royal panda and gaming grounds and btg exclusives as far as i am aware vs is a solo company so maybe less money to spread around.
 
These are tough pills to swallow for VS regulars like me, TBH. I only deposit 200 - 400 EUR per month since my latest move, so it doesn't affect me that much, plus I rarely play PnG, Red Tiger and Pragmatic. Still, it leaves me with a very sour taste.

Especially, since the RTP reduction was only one part of a double whammy, the other being the reduction in rewards. Since this looks like an ongoing "tick list" to improve profits, the question is now what will be next? :confused:

The piecemeal approach seems to be working so far as the numbers in the battles have been pretty steady and even slightly increasing. Reduce, duck and wait for the shitstorm to die down, reduce more, duck and wait again, reduce more, duck and wait again ....etc. :rolleyes: It will only stop when they feel that the "pain" threshold has been reached where they realize it is affecting the number of active players and deposits.

However, I dare to say that this is just the forwarning for what is to come in the next years as more countries enact their gambling regulations with taxes, fees etc. One day, it will align itself more or less with B&M casino levels. The funny part is that most people will be chucking away on the reels even when the RTP falls below 90%. I remember the early gambling machines in Germany had a minimum RTP of 60%, yet you still had two of each in every pub and gambling houses everywhere.
 
The problem for VS really is that they’re not a huge casino. They’re not well-known, and they don’t advertise themselves in major media. If you look at their site, the design is out-dated and suggests it may not be a trustworthy site. So they need to keep their profits up in the face of tougher regulations and a tough market. Several casinos in similar positions facing the same markets have pulled out entirely. I suspect VS don’t want to pull out, but have had to make a tough choice.

The likes of Leo Vegas and Casumo are bigger operations, and advertise heavily on television. They can almost certainly offset their higher risk with a bigger and more casual player base.

The reduction in RTP is not good, but from a business perspective I get it; they’re facing mainly clued-up players who probably already spin a lot, rather than casual players who may give up after the welcome offer. Their market almost certainly knows they can check the RTP and make an informed choice.

In many ways, it’s like a Poundland offer; you can get a branded bottle of shampoo for a quid there, which is less than the same brand from Asda. But then you look closer and although the bottle appears the same size, it’s a bit smaller and contains 20% less shampoo. You make the choice which is better for you.

At least with VS, we know they’re not going to try and scam you out of your payout. It’ll just take longer to get to the point of requesting one.

I suppose they could also take the Trada route - become a white label of another platform and just have their logo on a template website. Which may eventually happen anyway.
 
The problem for VS really is that they’re not a huge casino. They’re not well-known, and they don’t advertise themselves in major media. If you look at their site, the design is out-dated and suggests it may not be a trustworthy site. So they need to keep their profits up in the face of tougher regulations and a tough market. Several casinos in similar positions facing the same markets have pulled out entirely. I suspect VS don’t want to pull out, but have had to make a tough choice.

The likes of Leo Vegas and Casumo are bigger operations, and advertise heavily on television. They can almost certainly offset their higher risk with a bigger and more casual player base.

The reduction in RTP is not good, but from a business perspective I get it; they’re facing mainly clued-up players who probably already spin a lot, rather than casual players who may give up after the welcome offer. Their market almost certainly knows they can check the RTP and make an informed choice.

In many ways, it’s like a Poundland offer; you can get a branded bottle of shampoo for a quid there, which is less than the same brand from Asda. But then you look closer and although the bottle appears the same size, it’s a bit smaller and contains 20% less shampoo. You make the choice which is better for you.

At least with VS, we know they’re not going to try and scam you out of your payout. It’ll just take longer to get to the point of requesting one.

I suppose they could also take the Trada route - become a white label of another platform and just have their logo on a template website. Which may eventually happen anyway.
Does the move to a sportsbook give you any clues as to where VS is heading?

Can VS survive as a solo outfit surely they have to be swallowed up at some point.
 
I have not taken the time to go through this years new providers other than this one as it was the first of your new providers in searches.

Adoptit Gamings Rampage Riches is advertised at 95.5 in Videoslots yet Adoptit advertise that slot's rtp as 96-97% rtp.

How come there is a discrepancy?
As well as this post from last Sunday I asked a number of times in this thread recently about reduced rtp's in slots and Teamvideoslots refused to answer. They could also of taken the oppertunity in reply to have informed us of their decission to reduce rtp's further.
To me that is very deliberate deception which for me is unforgivable
 
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