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Jono777 said:
Is this right? - From what I've seen and heard I thought Bronze/Silver/Gold wheels had MUCH better rewards than those you describe :(

Those sound more like Blue and Red wheels??
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Think so....IIRC when i spun the silver the lowest i think was 100 quid (don't think there were any battle tickets/spins) possibly wrong tho :-p
 
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Supababe said:
Oh please on bended knees x make this the top agenda idem on Monday.
So many of us are plodding on through the dreaded level 20.
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Lots of us completed level 20, years ago....they better not change a thing, suck it up and play for enjoyment not for the damn wheel cause you'll be disappointed regardless. Just be happy they offer something and have achievements.
 
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bjtaz44 said:
Lots of us completed level 20 years ago....they better not change a thing, suck it up and play for enjoyment not for the damn wheel cause you'll be disappointed regardless. Just be happy they offer something and have achievements.
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I’m sorry I didn’t realise I was answering in reply to you. Lots of us here have NOT made the magic level 21.
I gave my opinion because mr wild asked for it. (He was consulting the players I guess) And at no point did I say I wasn’t happy.
I don’t bother about the rewards really, hence selecting VS but we were asked our thoughts. So instead of tour and wanted to comment to my past, try reading more carefully.
 
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Supababe said:
I’m sorry I didn’t realise I was answering in reply to you. Lots of us here have NOT made the magic level 21.
I gave my opinion because mr wild asked for it. (He was consulting the players I guess) And at no point did I say I wasn’t happy.
I don’t bother about the rewards really, hence selecting VS but we were asked our thoughts. So instead of tour and wanted to comment to my past, try reading more carefully.
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I don't know what answering in reply to you means.. as you say, I actually replied to your comment. No one is ever happy, fine....but for us who have gone the mile and completed level 20, I hope they never change it just because people crying over getting there. Im level 220 and earned it ! so thats why I'm saying I hope they don't change levels because of people without patience. Its a greedy now or never world apparently. (This is not directed to one person its to all complaining about it)
And who is Mr Wild? Is he the new rep?
 
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bjtaz44 said:
I don't know what answering in reply to you means.. as you say, I actually replied to your comment. No one is ever happy, fine....but for us who have gone the mile and completed level 20, I hope they never change it just because people crying over getting there. Im level 220 and earned it ! so thats why I'm saying I hope they don't change levels because of people without patience. Its a greaty now or never world apparently. (This is not directed to one person its to all complaining about it)
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And, as I clearly stated in my post to you... there isn’t any complaint at all.
If you read back 2 or 3 pages we were asked for out thoughts.
Why are you and others so held up on the size of your level number to realise that, if we all changed to a lower level, you could earn the rewards for a second time.
I’m pretty sure that I’ve ‘worked hard’ too using my meger budget over the last 5 years of playing at much lower stakes than 5CAD.
 
Supababe said:
And, as I clearly stated in my post to you... there isn’t any complaint at all.
If you read back 2 or 3 pages we were asked for out thoughts.
Why are you and others so held up on the size of your level number to realise that, if we all changed to a lower level, you could earn the rewards for a second time.
I’m pretty sure that I’ve ‘worked hard’ too using my meger budget over the last 5 years of playing at much lower stakes than 5CAD.
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Omg this isn't about you! Its about the momentum to try and have them change things even more when we had to endure it, so you guys should have to also. You are on bended knees begging so you got quoted obviously a mistake on my part.
And this whole thing is ABOUT levels so why wouldn't I be held up and proud to be at the level. IT would not be fair to change anything is all this is suppose to be about.
 
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bjtaz44 said:
Omg this isn't about you! Its about the momentum to try and have them change things even more when we had to endure it, so you guys should have to also. You are on bended knees begging so you got quoted obviously a mistake on my part.
And this whole thing is ABOUT levels so why wouldn't I be held up and proud to be at the level, it would not be fair to change anything is all this is suppose to be about.
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No no, the most important thing is that you still get what you have deserved and that that isn't changed. The same for me.
Videoslots though have to try and make their customers stay. With the huge gap between 20-21 and the fact it takes years to complete it people get tired of it.

I don't mind at all if changes are made for them for the better. I'm happy if everyone is happy. Try that some time. It's a good feeling :)
 
Tirilej said:
No no, the most important thing is that you still get what you have deserved and that that isn't changed. The same for me.
Videoslots though have to try and make their customers stay. With the huge gap between 20-21 and the fact it takes years to complete it people get tired of it.

I don't mind at all if changes are made for them for the better. I'm happy if everyone is happy. Try that some time. It's a good feeling :)
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I just couldn't agree to them changing it now, its like saying school is to hard, can you make it easier? Its nothing to be worked up about its a level, I know, but for people who achieved it, it would be a kick in the face if they made it easier now.
 
Supababe said:
Thank for taking the time to reply.
It is clearly a very detailed mathematical calculation that allows you (sorry, VS financial topdogs) firmly in control of what is spent on promotions.
TBH I haven’t a clue what much of your post means (sorry if I sound rude, not intended as such).
What I do know is that wagering and gaining xp points feels much harder with an average of 94.4% RTP. Wouldn’t it be fairer to calculate it based on deposited amounts?

In the most simplest of terms, psychologically it is nice to progress up through levels whatever the reward.

Moving back to level 4 wouldn’t be so bad if the level ups came in equal steps without a giant leap at level 20. On the downside though it would mean 15 more levels (3 jackpot wheel spins?) at ‘wood’ level.
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You earn XP faster with a lower RTP.

A game with 96% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1 XP.
A game with 98% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 0.5 XP.
A game with 94% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1.5 XP.
 
Mr Wild said:
You earn XP faster with a lower RTP.

A game with 96% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1 XP.
A game with 98% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 0.5 XP.
A game with 94% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1.5 XP.
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The thing is that we don't want to play games with a lower RTP. Since we play for entertainment we rather have a bit longer playtime.
I'm sure you understand that :)
 
Tirilej said:
No no, the most important thing is that you still get what you have deserved and that that isn't changed. The same for me.
Videoslots though have to try and make their customers stay. With the huge gap between 20-21 and the fact it takes years to complete it people get tired of it.

I don't mind at all if changes are made for them for the better. I'm happy if everyone is happy. Try that some time. It's a good feeling :)
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Plus you would get a second reward for reaching a level. I gues like having your 18th birthday bash all over again x
 
Mr Wild said:
You earn XP faster with a lower RTP.

A game with 96% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1 XP.
A game with 98% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 0.5 XP.
A game with 94% RTP with 1 eur wager gives you 1.5 XP.
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But over a long period of time, your money will, on average, last almost half as long on 94% than 96%.
So 1.5x Doesn't compensate for that
 
Forgive me for posting this but with all this recent RTP talk, I still think anything 94% and above is still pretty good and as you all know I am a very seasoned player.

Not noticed any real difference in returns or play time on PnG games, although my tactic remains unchanged, to do a brief amount of spins and if luck not in on that particular slot, move on!
 
bjtaz44 said:
I just couldn't agree to them changing it now, its like saying school is to hard, can you make it easier? Its nothing to be worked up about its a level, I know, but for people who achieved it, it would be a kick in the face if they made it easier now
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Omg, such a drama... It's just game... :)
 
Dilanos said:
Omg, such a drama... It's just game...
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How is that drama?, it's the truth, drama is people whining for changes, typical lazy attitude, I said above it's just a level...so what exactly is your meaning of drama on my part?
 
Tirilej said:
The thing is that we don't want to play games with a lower RTP. Since we play for entertainment we rather have a bit longer playtime.
I'm sure you understand that :)
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In this case, I only informed her how XP works as she felt she earn XP slower on lower RTP games.
In the end you need to be lucky in any RNG games, but people still play TRISS in Sweden and that is about 43% or 48% RTP and one of the most popluar games on VS is Captain Ventures, that is by default 94%.
I believe its matter of taste in the end and your personal preference. Its not like Bloodsuckers with 98% RTP is the most popluar one.
 
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Supababe said:
Can you quantify how discussing levels is lazy attitude?
Now you say ‘just a level’ which is far removed from your earlier point. Did you take your bipolar meds today?
Also, you may wish to read through some of your previous posts moaning about VS before I start quoting you.
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I read every post, so I'm not allowed to say everything is fine?, this is a bitch only thread?, and btw my brother killed himself over bi polar disorder 5 years ago so that was uncalled for, can't figure out how I personally insulted anyone here to deserve that, I'm done with this forum. Just don't want vs changing anything else is all this was about.

Edit...can not believe a teacher would use that reference also so confused how it got to that point. Anyway good luck with level 20
 
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bjtaz44 said:
I don't know what answering in reply to you means.. as you say, I actually replied to your comment. No one is ever happy, fine....but for us who have gone the mile and completed level 20, I hope they never change it just because people crying over getting there. Im level 220 and earned it ! so thats why I'm saying I hope they don't change levels because of people without patience. Its a greedy now or never world apparently. (This is not directed to one person its to all complaining about it)
And who is Mr Wild? Is he the new rep?
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But what difference does it make to you if they change it and you are already past it? Presumably if it is changed and the people not there yet are better off (which I'm not sure they would be due to the increased wagering required for each level) then VS's might give those who are past it some reward to make up for it? I've never understood why level 20-21 took so much wagering tbh.
 
Calling the low rollers, however loyal or unlucky, lazy is how it spirals my dear. Taking the high ground and throwing insults will result in the backfire.

bjtaz44 said:
Edit...can not believe a teacher would use that reference also so confused how it got to that point. Anyway good luck with level 20
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I’m sorry to hear about your brother but as someone diagnosed 10 years ago I’m sensitive to people who contradict their argument.

Your posts made me feel like a moaning ungrateful lazy good for nothing who isn’t worthy to give my opinion when asked.
 
colinsunderland said:
But what difference does it make to you if they change it and you are already past it? Presumably if it is changed and the people not there yet are better off (which I'm not sure they would be due to the increased wagering required for each level) then VS's might give those who are past it some reward to make up for it? I've never understood why level 20-21 took so much wagering tbh.
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Makes no difference to me, I just believe its there for a reason and I don't think it should be changed. I'm sure it will affect all levels if they change it, and yes it's it a gap but once it done, levelling is easy after. Why is it wrong for me to say keep it as it is, I'm tired of all the changes already.
 
Supababe said:
Calling the low rollers, however loyal or unlucky, lazy is how it spirals my dear. Taking the high ground and throwing insults will result in the backfire.



I’m sorry to hear about your brother but as someone diagnosed 10 years ago I’m sensitive to people who contradict their argument.

Your posts made me feel like a moaning ungrateful lazy good for nothing who isn’t worthy to give my opinion when asked.
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Again, it was NOT directed to you personally, should of never quoted you.
Its the whole please change this and this mentally that always ends up affecting someone down the road that has been with VS a very long time and tired of changes. Thank you for your apology you wouldn't know my situation but it gave bad flash backs of my brother reading it. Sorry if you thought i was attacking you I WASN'T , just the theroy of change is all was against
 
bjtaz44 said:
Makes no difference to me, I just believe its there for a reason and I don't think it should be changed. I'm sure it will affect all levels if they change it, and yes it's it a gap but once it done, levelling is easy after. Why is it wrong for me to say keep it as it is, I'm tired of all the changes already.
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I don't understand why you are so against it if it doesn't affect you and it makes no difference to you. I think, if it was going to be changed, then change the first 20 levels as suggested then from 21 onwards leave the same, otherwise it possibly (haven't done the maths) wouldn't be fair to people who have achieved over level 20.
 
colinsunderland said:
I don't understand why you are so against it if it doesn't affect you and it makes no difference to you. I think, if it was going to be changed, then change the first 20 levels as suggested then from 21 onwards leave the same, otherwise it possibly (haven't done the maths) wouldn't be fair to people who have achieved over level 20.
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I'm more amazed why I can't have an opinion, I said it doesn't affect me but it will affect me if they change it and then decide to change other levels (higher wagering), you think they won't change other level achievements if they just change one? I doubt that. But ya, VS go ahead and give everyone level 20 wheel regardless of what they spent.... change your whole bonus format, loyality, cash back, i was wrong. (Thats drama)
 
bjtaz44 said:
I'm more amazed why I can't have an opinion, I said it doesn't affect me but it will affect me if they change it and then decide to change other levels (higher wagering), you think they won't change other level achievements if they just change one? I doubt that. But ya, VS go ahead and give everyone level 20 wheel regardless of what they spent.... change your whole bonus format, loyality, cash back, i was wrong. (Thats drama)
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Who said you can't have an opinion? It's a discussion forum, thats all people are doing, discussing what you said :confused:
 
colinsunderland said:
Who said you can't have an opinion? It's a discussion forum, thats all people are doing, discussing what you said :confused:
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Lol I know but jeez, I have my dissatisfaction towards VS also on certain things, like can't ever win...lol... so agree on most complaints or issues i see on here but....I lost it over the level 20 thing haha, again just saying if its changed i think it would cause a spiral.

I'M not out to put peoples opions down, just i am against level changes. Maybe my words are interpreted wrong lol english is my second language. Lets talk french then you would truley hate me more than you do lol.
 
Please DON'T change the XP and how its earned, including that all important level 21.

Sure it will be like I've completed 10 marathon's by the time I eventually get there, BUT, over 2/3 of the way now, heard that the wheel for lvl 21 is VERY nice indeed and will have an awesome feeling of self satisfaction and hopefully a nice reward to make all the hard work worth it when I do finally get there.
 
Jono777 said:
Please DON'T change the XP and how its earned, including that all important level 21.

Sure it will be like I've completed 10 marathon's by the time I eventually get there, BUT, over 2/3 of the way now, heard that the wheel for lvl 21 is VERY nice indeed and will have an awesome feeling of self satisfaction and hopefully a nice reward to make all the hard work worth it when I do finally get there.
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:lolup::lolup::lolup:
 
bjtaz44 said:
Since I'm already at hate level 10 lol, why are whithdrawls no longer being approved pretty much instantly? Mine went from 5 mins to hours so just wondering if this is normal....

Lol never mind as typing it was approved..where is the delete button
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You’re not at hate level 10 at all.

My speculative guess would be that they have had a bug/loophole that some people have used to their advantage so are perhaps being more stringent checking the withdrawals right now.
Or perhaps just too many bloody people won from the s and g week (not me and my luck though)
 
Supababe said:
You’re not at hate level 10 at all.

My speculative guess would be that they have had a bug/loophole that some people have used to their advantage so are perhaps being more stringent checking the withdrawals right now.
Or perhaps just too many bloody people won from the s and g week (not me and my luck though)
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Ah yes brilliant answer, I did not factor that in. It is probably a nightmare at head quarters especially over a weekend
 
Mr Wild said:
The rewards focus have changed a lot with the new wheel. Lately even blue and red wheel have been upgraded. The Clashes dont only have 10cent spins, highest is 50 cent average is around 23 cent, however they are more for the lowroller. But in my view, if you have reach over level 21 the rewards with weekend booster + the wheel is very valuable. I do however see a problem for users betweeen level 20 - 21 and that is something we are looking at.
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Good, because it does suck a little, I still say the clash was a bad move, no one likes it and the race would have been better to keep with a lower prize pool to reduce the cost.
 
Reelsoffun said:
@Team.Videoslots

I think the complete all "bonanza" reward is broke as not rewarded it as fast as usual and not even showing as complete or allowing me to reset it?

It better be worth it its taken months to get.......

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last week i have completed all trophys/achievements on Extra Chili and must wait between 5-7 hrs. for activation of the last trophy/reward icon
how long do you wait for it?
 
Checked things related to weekend booster and noticed it has been cut by close to 50% during past years. You used to earn around 0,6% of wagering on 96% and now it seems to be around 0,4%. Well at least they are generous with various multipliers.
 
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