Unibet Casino - The Last Bastion of Default RTP in the UK?

[pinnit2014]

I am already worried because you cannot currently get the png RTP pages up on pokerstars, they might already be on 94%.

Not a site i use that much but went into check the game - no help files in the game? Can only see it when click that ! mark on the splash page

 

[09237653]

Not a site i use that much but went into check the game - no help files in the game? Can only see it when click that ! mark on the splash page

It used to show when you clicked the game help tab shown here but not any more (for me at least).

 

[satchnz]

With any luck streamers might get hit with the lower PnG RTPs and stop playing and promoting them. Then people might follow suit and cause PnG to reconsider their terrible approach to this. Same with other providers doing the same shit.

I know, I’m dreaming…

 

[Kroffe]

Implying that streamers play with normalpeople rtp in the first place.

 

[aceking123]

With any luck streamers might get hit with the lower PnG RTPs and stop playing and promoting them. Then people might follow suit and cause PnG to reconsider their terrible approach to this. Same with other providers doing the same shit.

I know, I’m dreaming…

It's not going to change a thing with streamers, most streamers aren't using their on funds anyway so why would they give a shit.
All you have to do is look on you tube for all those massive bonus buys wins claiming its 10000x stake.
I've long suspected way before what we know now, that stakes & rtp% have been gimped years ago, including microgaming

I stated this years ago just told I'm talking out my ass, goes to show I was correct in the thought.

 

[satchnz]

@Kroffe @aceking123 yes of course. I told you I as dreaming ?

 

[justdoit]

I am already worried because you cannot currently get the png RTP pages up on pokerstars, they may already be on 94% until confirmed otherwise.

 

[justdoit]

be careful when you play pokerstar in PNG Netent Etc, they use this trick betting only in coins, you could easily bet 0.50 in coins, which will make total betting 5

 

[09237653]

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How do you get this up? still not as concrete as the internal png help files but useful none the less.

 

[justdoit]

How do you get this up? still not as concrete as the internal png help files but useful none the less.

press on I before you enter the game

 

[justdoit]

How do you get this up? still not as concrete as the internal png help files but useful none the less.

if you play from UK make sure your deposit go in £ not in $, if your set up is on $ you get a charger like £6 for £200 deposit

 

[09237653]

Don't have the 'i' option on desktop client must be a mobile only feature.

And yes I changed over to £ a while ago when I noticed my deposits being short due to the conversion.

 

[justdoit]

Don't have the 'i' option on desktop client must be a mobile only feature.

And yes I changed over to £ a while ago when I noticed my deposits being short due to the conversion.

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maybe you using their app try their page on

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[justdoit]

Don't have the 'i' option on desktop client must be a mobile only feature.

And yes I changed over to £ a while ago when I noticed my deposits being short due to the conversion.

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they have some good exclusive slots they fun to play

 

[09237653]

Oh yeah that worked, can confirm the RTP through the F12 menu on chrome as well.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Mr Q are using their high RTPs as a way of attracting customers here in the UK. They mention it in their advertising blurb.

 

[pinnit2014]

Mr Q are using their high RTPs as a way of attracting customers here in the UK. They mention it in their advertising blurb.

They were high, then went low and now back to high? Bar Twin here, first time I've heard of that.

 

[pinnit2014]

Oh yeah, Slot of the Year Reactoonz 2 is at a juicy 96% again*. Hello Santa.

*for how long, who knows

 

[brianmon]

Unibet have now dropped Microgaming slots to the secondary 94%, at least those slots whose RTP can be varied, Immortal Romance, Thunderstruck II, etc
Therefore my deposits will be changing from a couple a week to once per month.
It's not like there's any other incentive to play there, promos, etc

 

[satchnz]

And the Novibet Gift Wheel is not working again…

 

[pinnit2014]

And the Novibet Gift Wheel is not working again…

It's been gubbed the last week. Worked a few days but that's it - back tomo for some 3/6 10p excitement though!

 

[slot_zombie]

Mr Q are using their high RTPs as a way of attracting customers here in the UK. They mention it in their advertising blurb.

Maybe something to do with their "refer a friend" way of attracting new customers. Refer and you both get 10 x 10p free spins

Must make a big difference to the bottom line when you're not paying out 30% revenue share to affiliates on an ongoing basis.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

As we all know already, Unibet jumped the shark on RTP a little while ago now, not just the UK facing site but the international site as well.

I still keep an eye on new releases over at Unibet.com and was slightly surprised to see a new Mega Moolah game be shown with an RTP of 97.08%, of course it's a mistake.

Opening the game up reveals the truth, 86.78% base game plus 5.3% to the progressives for a total of 92.08%.

Doubtless they'll correct it in due course, and the ingame help files do show the correct (derisory) RTP, but anyone just accepting the mouseover value as being accurate would be selling themselves badly short.

 

[dealer wins]

Are there any UK sites still offering top RTPs on all their slots to players?

 

[09237653]

Are there any UK sites still offering top RTPs on all their slots to players?

Mr Q is the last one I know of, poor game selection though and they keep removing them.

 

[satchnz]

Everyone keeps forgetting Bet365…

 

[anddi32]

Doubtless they'll correct it in due course, and the ingame help files do show the correct (derisory) RTP, but anyone just accepting the mouseover value as being accurate would be selling themselves badly short.

I see same stuff in coolbet. Casino's own announcement 92.08% but in real life total RTP is 86.78%. Coolbet is default casino so that's the default.

And provider has dropped original Mega Moolah default after MGA dropped minimum RTP. When 92 was minimium Mega Moolah default was a bit over 92%. Todays default is 88.12% inc. progressive JP. Oh man

 

[mack341]

Funny it's a bit like supermarket mispricing, the mistake always tends to go in one way!

 

[jasonuk]

I see same stuff in coolbet. Casino's own announcement 92.08% but in real life total RTP is 86.78%. Coolbet is default casino so that's the default.

92.08% is the correct RTP - because it's 86.78% base + 5.30% progressive. The previous observation was 97.08% which is clearly wrong - 5.00% too high.

A long long way from the Mega Moolah of years past - Mega Moolah Isis ran at 88.12% + 8.31% = 96.43% for the longest time (95.00% non-progressive), quite a difference to both base game and progressive experience!

 

[justdoit]

lol

 

[slot_zombie]

lol

What is this horror? Lol, trust Aspire Global to plumb new depths of RTP awfulness.

 

[pinnit2014]

87? BoD teases less on 94% compared to the 96%: at 87% they must just simply delete them from the code.

No wonder some of us have got on a plane and headed to the Islands to party - maybe some of them will 'steal' a withdrawal (not had one yet) but at 87% some UK Licensed casino's are doing just that with those RTP's.

 

[mack341]

'Book of dead spins' will be the new name

 

[justdoit]

What is this horror? Lol, trust Aspire Global to plumb new depths of RTP awfulness.

got email with 10 free spins book of dead I check RTP wtf

 

[anddi32]

92.08% is the correct RTP - because it's 86.78% base + 5.30% progressive. The previous observation was 97.08% which is clearly wrong - 5.00% too high.

A long long way from the Mega Moolah of years past - Mega Moolah Isis ran at 88.12% + 8.31% = 96.43% for the longest time (95.00% non-progressive), quite a difference to both base game and progressive experience!

Are you sure? Game file says overall RTP 86.78%.
I thought this means that JP contribution is included in this return.

 

[jasonuk]

Are you sure? Game file says overall RTP 86.78%.
I thought this means that JP contribution is included in this return.

In most cases that's true and the headline RTP includes all contributions, but here they talk about an additional jackpot contribution - so 86.78% base + 5.30% progressive.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

What ever game it is you are discussing will be shit anyway!!!

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Are there any UK sites still offering top RTPs on all their slots to players?

Tombola are still north of 98% on all their games, including their slots, and they're UK facing.

Now admittedly this will mean playing Tombola's games, which are not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but 98.25% RTP is not to be sniffed at.

I quite like some of their games, the ones with relaxing ambient music are a moderately zen-like experience.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Do 3dice know about this????

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Do 3dice know about this????

I'm allowed to have a little dalliance elsewhere from time to time.

 

[Deeplay]

Tombola are still north of 98% on all their games, including their slots, and they're UK facing.

Now admittedly this will mean playing Tombola's games, which are not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but 98.25% RTP is not to be sniffed at.

I quite like some of their games, the ones with relaxing ambient music are a moderately zen-like experience.

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I gave Tombola a go last year. Cant complain - high RTP and everything worked. Not the site where you could blow your wage packet on for sure. And if i recall win caps on each of the games at around 500 quid ? but enjoyable experience for low rolling. Chat from the bingo players did my head in - but easily turned off. Will maybe revisit before years end for another session.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I gave Tombola a go last year. Cant complain - high RTP and everything worked. Not the site where you could blow your wage packet on for sure. And if i recall win caps on each of the games at around 500 quid ? but enjoyable experience for low rolling. Chat from the bingo players did my head in - but easily turned off. Will maybe revisit before years end for another session.

500x is the cap, so to get £500 you need to playing on £1 per game round, and it scales down from there.

The games are pretty slow and very low volatility, so they won't deliver DOA2 style thrills, but for a gentle scratching of a gambling itch I think they work reasonably well. The 'Glow' and 'Bubble' games have lovely music.

I actually quite like the live chat, reminds me of Jackpot Party back in the day, 'Slippers pls Glinda'.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Everyone keeps forgetting Bet365…

Its the only place I now play,on the rare occasion I have money.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

I deposited £100 at Tombola last night, two and a half hours later I withdrew £100, so can't complain there really.

I tried to buy some crypto to play at 3Dice but Coinbase has now decided it doesn't like my Visa debit card and refused to complete the transaction, and then sent me an email to say they'd removed it from my account, so thanks for that. I couldn't be arsed getting another card set up (it was a right faff the first time around) so I toddled off to Unibet as they do still have the 98% NetEnt games on their books, but that decided it wouldn't complete the transaction too. It looked like it was going to go off and do the extra verification bit where you have to use the bank's app on your phone to approve the transaction, but instead it binned me back to the Unibet cashier screen and said my bank had told them to fuck off, or something. (Hey it was Christmas evening, so booze, y'know?)

As a last hurrah I decided to give depositing at Tombola a try, and that took my £100 no problem from exactly the same card that Coinbase and Unibet don't like, so go figure on that....

Anyway, some (albeit not all) of their newer games do seem to have lower RTPs, although when I say 'lower' I mean from around 96.8% to 97.4%, but their old stuff like the Bubble games and Glow games are still at 98.25%. It's not difficult to find games that are running at RTPs of 98% or better, put it that way.

Graphics wise they're still not going to be giving top-tier development houses any sleepless nights, although I cheerfully maintain that the Glow games have some of the most pleasant ambient music you'll find in an online game.

Because the games have such high RTPs, and are so low volatility, and are so slow to play, I cheerfully went in on the MAX BET of £1 game rounds, which is rather rich for me!

Overall it did its job, I had a little flutter which is all I was after really, the fact I got all my money back after two and a half hours is a Brucey Bonus, although I have yet to hit the mythical 500x stake top prize.

I can only assume Tombola are doing reasonably well out of their business model, as they've been around for years, so I guess it must be working out alright for them.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

I deposited £100 at Tombola last night, two and a half hours later I withdrew £100, so can't complain there really.

I tried to buy some crypto to play at 3Dice but Coinbase has now decided it doesn't like my Visa debit card and refused to complete the transaction, and then sent me an email to say they'd removed it from my account, so thanks for that. I couldn't be arsed getting another card set up (it was a right faff the first time around) so I toddled off to Unibet as they do still have the 98% NetEnt games on their books, but that decided it wouldn't complete the transaction too. It looked like it was going to go off and do the extra verification bit where you have to use the bank's app on your phone to approve the transaction, but instead it binned me back to the Unibet cashier screen and said my bank had told them to fuck off, or something. (Hey it was Christmas evening, so booze, y'know?)

As a last hurrah I decided to give depositing at Tombola a try, and that took my £100 no problem from exactly the same card that Coinbase and Unibet don't like, so go figure on that....

Anyway, some (albeit not all) of their newer games do seem to have lower RTPs, although when I say 'lower' I mean from around 96.8% to 97.4%, but their old stuff like the Bubble games and Glow games are still at 98.25%. It's not difficult to find games that are running at RTPs of 98% or better, put it that way.

Graphics wise they're still not going to be giving top-tier development houses any sleepless nights, although I cheerfully maintain that the Glow games have some of the most pleasant ambient music you'll find in an online game.

Because the games have such high RTPs, and are so low volatility, and are so slow to play, I cheerfully went in on the MAX BET of £1 game rounds, which is rather rich for me!

Overall it did its job, I had a little flutter which is all I was after really, the fact I got all my money back after two and a half hours is a Brucey Bonus, although I have yet to hit the mythical 500x stake top prize.

I can only assume Tombola are doing reasonably well out of their business model, as they've been around for years, so I guess it must be working out alright for them.

Tombola arcade games are excellent value for money. Just the other day I turned 48p into a £10 withdrawal and its not the first time I have made a profit on their slots. The games aren't particularly exciting or original, but you definitely get a good deal of playing time and its hard to fault that these days.

 

[Deeplay]

I tried to buy some crypto to play at 3Dice but Coinbase has now decided it doesn't like my Visa debit card and refused to complete the transaction,

Also had the same last night - was wanting to do a deposit into 3dice. Not with coinbase but with Luno which was a very easy set up and very basic and easy to send / buy crypto. But now transactions declined tried RBS and Barclays visa debit - both rejected. On doing some reading up seems like UK banks are now blocking more and more crypto exchanges. RBS and Barclays seem to have suddenly black listed Luno - I had the same with coinbase at the same time they kicked me off for tracking gambling transfers.

So seems like UK banks are more and more blocking any kind of crypto purchases. Monzo was at one time Crypto friendly but they are changing there stance on that now it seems. Shame as Luno was good. IM not gonna bother with adding another card.

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Also had the same last night - was wanting to do a deposit into 3dice. Not with coinbase but with Luno which was a very easy set up and very basic and easy to send / buy crypto. But now transactions declined tried RBS and Barclays visa debit - both rejected. On doing some reading up seems like UK banks are now blocking more and more crypto exchanges. RBS and Barclays seem to have suddenly black listed Luno - I had the same with coinbase at the same time they kicked me off for tracking gambling transfers.

So seems like UK banks are more and more blocking any kind of crypto purchases. Monzo was at one time Crypto friendly but they are changing there stance on that now it seems. Shame as Luno was good. IM not gonna bother with adding another card.

Yeah this is the thing isn't it, how many hoops do you want to have to start jumping through just to play some games online? I know it's not 3Dice's fault that they're basically crypto only now (certainly they're the only deposit options I can see there), but it does create something of a barrier to entry. This is partly why I tried to leave balances rolling over from one month to the next in my Personal Safe, but unfortunately Dice Fusion put an end to that this month

Getting everything set up at Coinbase in the first place was quite a long-winded process, in fairness it all went fine but there were a lot of stages to it, identity verification and all that jazz - I'm not sure I can be arsed doing it all again somewhere else, especially as I might find my card gets declined at the end of it all anyway!

I've used the same card many times at Unibet as well, and now all of a sudden it gets declined there too, but works fine at Tombola

Back to crypto, I have literally zero interest in it as a currency/investment/whatever, it was simply just a way to enable me to carry on playing at 3Dice once the last other option that was available to me there (EcoPayz) disappeared.

I remember back in 2012 I could just deposit there directly using a standard UK credit card

 

[Deeplay]

Yeah this is the thing isn't it, how many hoops do you want to have to start jumping through just to play some games online? I know it's not 3Dice's fault that they're basically crypto only now (certainly they're the only deposit options I can see there), but it does create something of a barrier to entry. This is partly why I tried to leave balances rolling over from one month to the next in my Personal Safe, but unfortunately Dice Fusion put an end to that this month

Getting everything set up at Coinbase in the first place was quite a long-winded process, in fairness it all went fine but there were a lot of stages to it, identity verification and all that jazz - I'm not sure I can be arsed doing it all again somewhere else, especially as I might find my card gets declined at the end of it all anyway!

I've used the same card many times at Unibet as well, and now all of a sudden it gets declined there too, but works fine at Tombola

Back to crypto, I have literally zero interest in it as a currency/investment/whatever, it was simply just a way to enable me to carry on playing at 3Dice once the last other option that was available to me there (EcoPayz) disappeared.

I remember back in 2012 I could just deposit there directly using a standard UK credit card

Yeah me too no interest in investing on crypto it was really just a method to deposit when I bailed out on the UK casino scene. And yes they are other options such as keeping your crypto on a personal hard drive - Anne from 3dice did kindly explain quite a bit to me on options for crypto deposits but for me to much hassle. I Just want to deposit loose or withdrawn when I win - end off. Nothing in between.

Luno was quite easy to set up but after you are verified then its a 14 day wait before you can do an initial deposit - in some cases up to 30 days. After then it was always instant and dep always landed in 3dice within say 10 minutes.

But that window seemingly closed now. I know not 3dices fault as you said - but it used to be so easy anyway I saved myself £100 or so quid I suppose so nothing lost. If 3dice did manage to get an alternate dep / withdraw method I would certainly play again. But at the moment - its no go.

 

[Deeplay]

Cant be sure on Unibet though could have just been a network issue ) and shame you oblitorated you safe zone funds on "reactoonz" ) I did a few 100 spins but not a game I would return to - symbols too confusing and not as easy to understand as the original game.

 

[johnnymcc1966]

Tombola arcade games are excellent value for money. Just the other day I turned 48p into a £10 withdrawal and its not the first time I have made a profit on their slots. The games aren't particularly exciting or original, but you definitely get a good deal of playing time and its hard to fault that these days.

Sorry to quote myself but I've just had 11p in my Tombola arcade account and made a £10 withdrawal from it. Again. How can you fault slots that give you the opportunity to do that on a not irregular basis?