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Tommy Robinson and Identity Politics

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mack341 said:
failure to tackle child abuse should mean he's not fit to be an mp let alone leader, IIRC Dame Margaret Hodge was also involved in that islington abuse scandal as the leader of the council. Covering up for paedophiles by failing to properly investigate abuse in the care system was endemic in those days IMO.
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Don’t know if you guys have something similar but up here in Scotland there’s something called the Named Person scheme. The intentions of it are commendable to an extent, trying to join up school - doctor - social worker etc workings to ensure that no tell tale signs of abuse are missed. Unfortunately accusations of it amounting to state interference and the general efficacy of the system are possibly weighted against it.
 
mack341 said:
My first memory of it was in the early 90's, we had a talk radio presenter/legend in the uk called mike dickin and I remember he was against it right back then when it surfaced here. At first I couldn't understand the objection to it as I thought it was just an extension of being polite, not using the 'N' word etc.. but it spread its power and influence to become part of mass thought control and censorship of free speech.

I believe it did begin in american academia and intelligentsia, by the college professors, writers etc, moved into the media and then took over party politics, so it dominates all political debate and therefore other equally or more important issues get sidelined.

Edit: here is mike discussing gambling:
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yes, definitely from the college professors, where and when they decided to teach it I don't know.
 
So what does one group bring to the table that another group that shares your value system doesn't?
 
slotplayer said:
So what does one group bring to the table that another group that shares your value system doesn't?
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Trump thread

Korea thread

T Robinson thread

with a lot of running around in circles!

*although technically the answer you seek is 'The wrong answers' :D
 
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colinsunderland said:
No, but juries being plastered all over facebook/twitter etc can put them under pressure to return a different verdict than they would otherwise. It also allows the jury to be dismissed, and can result in the CPS not going for a re-trial. Not sure why you mention the police, CPS, Doctors or Judge as they don't decide the verdict.

There are very good reasons why reporting restrictions are in place at some trials, he is a racist idiot who will, one day, enable some pedophiles to go free (like his nonce mates).
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How was the jury not sequestered?
 
slotplayer said:
like Dunover said, the cultural differences.
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Why mass immigration of muslims from pakistan has been encouraged into the UK? I don't know you would have to ask the civil service and elite establishment that controls this country. Ditto all the other immigration that's been welcomed, its not as though we've ever suffered from not having enough people. Over population creates poverty and all manner of other problems including crime etc... This is the betrayal that has been going on for 50 years, and is the real reason behind the popularity of parties like UKIP etc...

People from the left will say we sometimes need to hire doctors and other skilled people from foreign countries which is not unreasonable, but are we too thick to train and educate our own people? Plus what about the countries where all these skilled people leave from, they're never going to progress [which is what the left claim to care about] if their best people just emigrate all the time.
 
mack341 said:
Why mass immigration of muslims from pakistan has been encouraged into the UK? I don't know you would have to ask the civil service and elite establishment that controls this country. Ditto all the other immigration that's been welcomed, its not as though we've ever suffered from not having enough people. Over population creates poverty and all manner of other problems including crime etc... This is the betrayal that has been going on for 50 years, and is the real reason behind the popularity of parties like UKIP etc...

People from the left will say we sometimes need to hire doctors and other skilled people from foreign countries which is not unreasonable, but are we too thick to train and educate our own people? Plus what about the countries where all these skilled people leave from, they're never going to progress [which is what the left claim to care about] if their best people just emigrate all the time.
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A similar betrayal has been going on here, hence the election of "Mr. T".
 
Yes this thread is tangenting everywhere!! I only replied because I am very familiar with TR and his tactics. Not about the court cases. TR is and has been for the past 10 years a member of a variety of nationalist political parties, currently
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. An anti islam and muslim group. The only reason he was at canterbury and Leeds was for publicity and to further his own beliefs. Not out of compassion for the victims. His actions were more likely to get the case thrown out or force a retrial, this he knew as it is exactly what happened outside Canterbury. I wouldn't want this man anywhere near anything to do with anything because his political beliefs are his only motivation.
 
mellody said:
Yes this thread is tangenting everywhere!! I only replied because I am very familiar with TR and his tactics. Not about the court cases. TR is and has been for the past 10 years a member of a variety of nationalist political parties, currently
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. An anti islam and muslim group. The only reason he was at canterbury and Leeds was for publicity and to further his own beliefs. Not out of compassion for the victims. His actions were more likely to get the case thrown out or force a retrial, this he knew as it is exactly what happened outside Canterbury. I wouldn't want this man anywhere near anything to do with anything because his political beliefs are his only motivation.
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I think I watched a video where he said his relative was a victim.
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mack341 said:
Why mass immigration of muslims from pakistan has been encouraged into the UK? I don't know you would have to ask the civil service and elite establishment that controls this country. Ditto all the other immigration that's been welcomed, its not as though we've ever suffered from not having enough people. Over population creates poverty and all manner of other problems including crime etc... This is the betrayal that has been going on for 50 years, and is the real reason behind the popularity of parties like UKIP etc...

People from the left will say we sometimes need to hire doctors and other skilled people from foreign countries which is not unreasonable, but are we too thick to train and educate our own people? Plus what about the countries where all these skilled people leave from, they're never going to progress [which is what the left claim to care about] if their best people just emigrate all the time.
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Because this group universally votes Labour, so boosted their election chances.
 
mellody said:
Hmmm, yes indeed, i read a further interview where when pressed, age not relevant, he changed it to cousin's cousin. Also another one where it was an old friends daughter, guess we'll all just have to believe what we believe.
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I wasn't saying its true or not just that he said it.
 
EkJR said:
The guy is clearly on the government payroll.
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This is one of my concerns, he is supposed to be a thorn in the pc establishment, yet the media, part of the pc establishment, give him a large amount of air time. [newsnight, itv, sky plus places like the oxford union]

Like the USA we have a deep state or elite establishment that decide the policy and direction the country moves in. Mass immigration is a complex issue, I'm not anti foreigners in general but I have no time for some of the lowlife we have ended up with here, the grooming rape gangs are a prime example of scumbags no civilised country would want.

Putting my conspiracy hat on and I would say it is a deliberate ploy to undermine cohesion in the country, because a cohesive, well educated country with a high standard of living would become a threat to the ruling class in the long term. It's the divide and rule and order out of chaos process.
 
Tommy is a hero, anyone who says no is a traitor, generally an Owen Jones Labour supporting, English hater, Jew hating racist, refugees welcome idiotic sign waver who thinks Merkel was a genius letting 2 million Islam supporting muppets into the "mafia Eu". But hey we're the idiots?
 
sledge13 said:
Tommy is a hero, anyone who says no is a traitor, generally an Owen Jones Labour supporting, English hater, Jew hating racist, refugees welcome idiotic sign waver who thinks Merkel was a genius letting 2 million Islam supporting muppets into the "mafia Eu". But hey we're the idiots?
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Well by no means do i find Tommy a hero.

But i also do not hate English, support Labour, Hate Jews or want anymore refugees in Scotland.

Good job i am going to bed now will give me plenty time to workout what i am :rolleyes:
 
Funny enough the conservatives have been in power from may 2010 to now 2018, weren't a lot of the crimes commited during this time, with the police and authorities turning a blind eye?

The conservatives are only slightly better than new labour, and their leader Theresa is currently trying to stitch up the brexit referendum outcome too.
 
I'm seeing some differences of opinion here I think

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These worthless scum want to keep British citizenship because to have it removed 'violates their right to family life'. What sort of subhumans are getting lawyers and legal aid to fight this action after raping kids? Un-fucking-believable. :mad::mad:

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And now the vermin can be deported they have ANOTHER fucking load of our money to contest the deportation order? How has this been allowed to develop?
 
"Aziz, Kahn and Rauf were given jail sentences between six and nine years but have since been released on licence"

Damn does it feel good to be British sometimes :rolleyes: . i wonder what would have been the verdict if those 3 were white national citizens.
Wow, just wow.


Watched a recording from a cell phone the other week, 2 guys driving through an estate in a merc, and being stopped by literally the entire neighbourhood (must of been 20 people tellnig them to F off and not come back, plus onlookers). Everyone shouting at them and teling them to get out since they were more than aware of what these pieces of s$*t were doing around those parts while our government looks the other way.

One got dropped by some guy, but they still drove up the road and got back out to give it the big 'come on then' from a safe distance, absolutely unashamed in their practices. Some woman walked upto the merc and put a hammer through the back window, while things were thrown as they again drove away before another guy threw a hacksaw jim duggan style plank of wood at the car.
A sad shame they have to resort to defending their children in such a way rather than sit back and let it continue since our country is so politically correct, and spinelessly pro immigrant over its own citizens.

Remember buying a few kebabs from a fairly local place back in the day whom were later found to be pimping out underage uk girls in the flat above the shop. God this makes my blood boil, refuse to by a kebab anywhere out of principal now - I'm sure that'll hit some where it hurts, at least locally, resulting in a few less spins on the £500 jackpots in the arcade after work at 3am from their hard earnt dosh made from selling dirty rat meat, who knows if all that disposable dosh includes anything else that some of them seem to regard as nothing but meat (Regular around my way at the 24/7 arcade it is that kebab shop owners can be found playing the randoms in arcades with wads of cash, despite swapping control of kebab shops on a yearly basis, to the point that after 10 years you see the same group having run 10 different shops, which i can only assume is so that none of them in my town ever have to contribute to society by paying tax.
 
Went to check out Robinson's Wikipedia page, musing over how he'd be tagged.

Sure enough, "Far-right activist" was the description, so I had a sneaky suspicion that the 'edit history' of the article would be fraught with revisions.

And yes, even there the comments were littered with arguments as to whether he's 'far-right' or merely 'right-wing' :eek:

Mind you, it was never gonna be centre-right humanitarian was it :eek2:

Here's a piece on how his handwriting gives us a window to his soul, whilst in prison

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goatwack said:
Went to check out Robinson's Wikipedia page, musing over how he'd be tagged.

Sure enough, "Far-right activist" was the description, so I had a sneaky suspicion that the 'edit history' of the article would be fraught with revisions.

And yes, even there the comments were littered with arguments as to whether he's 'far-right' or merely 'right-wing' :eek:

Mind you, it was never gonna be centre-right humanitarian was it :eek2:

Here's a piece on how his handwriting gives us a window to his soul, whilst in prison

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These the same 'graphologists' who years back were ripping-off employers by claiming to be able to psychoanalyse job applicants and their suitability based solely on their handwriting? Crikey, lucky the Metro leftist rag never got a photo of his tea leaves. They'd no doubt 'prove' he was a Satanist or a Time Lord. :rolleyes:
 
Mouche12 said:
Still, what the handwriting experts came up with sounded quite plausible.

Others may argue that this much debated handwriting analysis does not provide any proof of a person's personality traits.
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Hard to really verify. It may be true, but likelier is that the analysis has been shaped on personal opinion of Robinson himself, i.e 'unfavourable' :cool:
 
Willie Dille, who feared for her children's life at the vengeful hands of muslim extremists took her own life today as the only way out of the predicament she found herself in unable to procure assistance from police for the ongoing islamic threats on her life, she decided that she would commit suicide to protect her family from any potential repercussions.



A city councilor in The Hague and member of the anti-immigrant Freedom Party has taken her own life, hours after posting a video on Facebook in which she claimed she was gang-raped by Muslims as part of an intimidation campaign.

Willie Dille, 53, reportedly ended her own life on Wednesday, two days after sharing a video on social media in which she claimed to have been kidnapped and raped by a Muslim gang over a year ago.



Dille served as an MP for the anti-immigrant Freedom Party from 2010-2012 before returning to her seat on The Hague city council. The party’s leader, Geert Wilders, is an outspoken critic of Islam. The suicide was confirmed by local Freedom Party leader Karen Gerbrands who said Dille “could no longer bear what had happened to her and the reactions she had had."



Appearing distressed and looking around nervously as she spoke, Dille said in the video that the gang demanded her silence during council debates and that she had recently received a death threat warning that “we will soon cut your throat and let you bleed to death."



“I just want the world to know the truth. 15 March 2017 I was kidnapped, raped and assaulted by a group of Muslims because they wanted me to keep quiet in the Hague city council,” she said in the video. March 15th last year was the day of the parliamentary elections. “After it happened, I did not tell anyone, I just did my debates the next day.”



She added that she was leaving politics because she was afraid that someone might hurt her children. “I cannot live with that. They don't like women at all. They don't like me at all,” she said. “That's why I decided to stop.”



The video was removed shortly after it was posted online.



Police confirmed to RT that Dille posted the video on social media on August 6 and died on August 8. They also said that authorities had contact with Dille "on multiple occasions in the past period, concerning the incidents she claimed had happened to her.



Vid that was posted on social media, if its ok to put here:
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dunover said:
I see the 'benefits' of multiculturalism have visited Yorkshire now. When will this end? :mad:

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The only thing I can't understand.

Where were the parents of the UK kids when all of this grooming and pimping was happening?.

Some of the girls were 12. If I had a Daughter or Son of that age, I would know where they were 24/7
 
Gaz237 said:
The only thing I can't understand.

Where were the parents of the UK kids when all of this grooming and pimping was happening?.

Some of the girls were 12. If I had a Daughter or Son of that age, I would know where they were 24/7
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That's just it - they very deliberately target the vulnerable girls from broken/dysfunctional families, mainly in the poorer urban areas. It usually starts with drugs/alcohol to get them compliant and needing the 'benevolence' of these scum for their next hit or bit of escapism. Then the price these girls pay is slowly extracted. :mad:
 
ed skull murphy said:
Yep, and in 2005 they hired their chums from the Mossad to plant C4 plastic explosives on the underground trains and double-decker bus in order to keep Iraq going. 7/7 was a real bloodbath, and the patsies weren't even on the trains/bus, they were apparently later shot dead by a police special unit, in Canary Wharf. Probably the same unit that shot the electrician, De Menezes.

It may have been that monumental screw-up that prompted them to start using actors and fake blood for future 'terror events'.
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Are you for real? All of your claims were disproven, and are nothing more than conspiracy theorists which have zero basis in reality.
 
They must be pissing themselves laughing at the soft idiots in the West. How's this for 'integration'???

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We had some tosser try a similar thing here once - one went and got a supermarket job and then tried to win money at an Industrial Tribunal on the grounds that he had to put alcohol on the shelves and his religious rights were being violated. Unlike the fools in Sweden, the judges told him to fuck-off. :cheers:
 
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