Tommy Robinson and Identity Politics

[mack341]

The thing with people like robinson is they never delve into how we have got into this position, he will blame left wing people and do gooders but doesn't seem to see these people do not run the country. It stands to reason that if do gooders actually ran the country we wouldn't have got involved in these wars in the middle east.

Tony blair was not a do gooder, he was though in favour of high immigration, the country spending beyond its means and then having to borrow money, and simultaneous wars in the middle east that achieved very little except millions dead and wounded.

The elite and civil service run the country and whatever happens they never lose power, poor white people fighting poor muslims doesn't bother them in the least in fact they like divide and rule it means their enemies are fighting each other and not them.

 

[ed skull murphy]

The thing with people like robinson is they never delve into how we have got into this position, he will blame left wing people and do gooders but doesn't seem to see these people do not run the country. It stands to reason that if do gooders actually ran the country we wouldn't have got involved in these wars in the middle east.

Tony blair was not a do gooder, he was though in favour of high immigration, the country spending beyond its means and then having to borrow money, and simultaneous wars in the middle east that achieved very little except millions dead and wounded.

The elite and civil service run the country and whatever happens they never lose power, poor white people fighting poor muslims doesn't bother them in the least in fact they like divide and rule it means their enemies are fighting each other and not them.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

Although I will just add that Tony Blair was a genius, as far as the elites are concerned, he achieved everything that was asked of him.

 

[mack341]

The elite and civil service run the country and whatever happens they never lose power, poor white people fighting poor muslims doesn't bother them in the least in fact they like divide and rule it means their enemies are fighting each other and not them.

I probably could have said working class instead of poor, and the fighting and hostility can only go to a certain level, pitched battles between thousands of armed men wouldn't be tolerated but punch ups like the one the other day will be allowed to keep things simmering.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I probably could have said working class instead of poor, and the fighting and hostility can only go to a certain level, pitched battles between thousands of armed men wouldn't be tolerated but punch ups like the one the other day will be allowed to keep things simmering.

What was the puch up the other day?

Here's a vid compilation -

'Can't Barrage The Farage', or 'spot the man who is speaking the truth'.

 

[mack341]

I think it was in central london between the police and tommy robinson supporters/edl:

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funny but i couldn't copy and paste any of the pictures, sky must have some system that blocks it.

I like Nigel, watched him interviewed by peston earlier today and he talks a lot of sense. He doesn't want ukip to become an anti muslim party but I'm sure like most normal people he was outraged by the rape scandals [most being of pakistan background iirc]

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I always felt that plane crash he had was a bit suspicious.

Ukip has gained members because the conservatives, especially at the top of the party, are no longer conservative, cameron and blair were near identical in outlook and policy.

And yes blair was a genius at getting the elite's wishes and ideas into practice, a one off I hope.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I think it was in central london between the police and tommy robinson supporters/edl:.

Oh dear, you can see it starting, the infamous 'clash of civilisations'.

I like Nigel, watched him interviewed by peston earlier today and he talks a lot of sense. He doesn't want ukip to become an anti muslim party but I'm sure like most normal people he was outraged by the rape scandals [most being of pakistan background iirc]

I always felt that plane crash he had was a bit suspicious.

Yeah, I'm 50/50 on whether Nige is controlled opposition, he puts on a damned good show. You can't but help loving the guy's charisma, and straight talking attitude. He talks a lot of sense, when all around him are spouting nonsense.

Ukip has gained members because the conservatives, especially at the top of the party, are no longer conservative, cameron and blair were near identical in outlook and policy.

And yes blair was a genius at getting the elite's wishes and ideas into practice, a one off I hope.

Who knows what is going on, man, they are all self-serving con-men at the end of the day.

 

[TheAddict]

Sickening to listen to, unfortunately.

But, the vid below would likely give a plausable explanation as to why;

Jim S was basically covered up (imo) from doing disgusting s%¥t while working at the bbc until he could no longer be a riskthat might expose others.
Government persons, high ranking people, being linked to such disgusting acts.
Important documents and/or evidence dissapearing, or "have been lost"
Ceartin cases constantly being passed around and within the police department and thus never reaching a definate or thoroughly investigated conclusion.
Mp L Britton apparantly caught banged to rights, according to this mans research. Twice. Yet investigation funding was closed down. Of course, he can't speak now and like JS in doing so possibly bring others involved to light if he did, as he the MP is also now deceased.

Apparantly this guy in the vid, john, was served gross misconduct papers for "data protection violations" and continued to work without pay. During such time his child had a horrific accident that left him needing to be revived, and left lying in a coma for months.

And keeping in line with mr. Robinson... perhaps there is a much deeper reason as to why these "grooming gangs" often seem to be swept under the carpet. Did he unwittingly stumble onto something beyond that of the common knowledge of which the courts seem to be turning a blind eye towards, something which also may need to be swept under the rug as much as possible incase ceartin people may come to light through deep investigations as being connected to these disgusting happenings that are being forced upon innocent children?

Respect to this man anyway for not standing down, as from what ive read he has received no less (unsuprisingly) than absolute hell from everyone he tried to turn to for help, if it be child protection services or high ranked officers.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Liz MacKean and Jill Dando were both investigating this sickening business, and they both paid dearly for it.

 

[mack341]

Sickening to listen to, unfortunately.

But, the vid below would likely give a plausable explanation as to why;

Jim S was basically covered up (imo) from doing disgusting s%¥t while working at the bbc until he could no longer be a riskthat might expose others.
Government persons, high ranking people, being linked to such disgusting acts.
Important documents and/or evidence dissapearing, or "have been lost"
Ceartin cases constantly being passed around and within the police department and thus never reaching a definate or thoroughly investigated conclusion.
Mp L Britton apparantly caught banged to rights, according to this mans research. Twice. Yet investigation funding was closed down. Of course, he can't speak now and like JS in doing so possibly bring others involved to light if he did, as he the MP is also now deceased.

Apparantly this guy in the vid, john, was served gross misconduct papers for "data protection violations" and continued to work without pay. During such time his child had a horrific accident that left him needing to be revived, and left lying in a coma for months.

And keeping in line with mr. Robinson... perhaps there is a much deeper reason as to why these "grooming gangs" often seem to be swept under the carpet. Did he unwittingly stumble onto something beyond that of the common knowledge of which the courts seem to be turning a blind eye towards, something which also may need to be swept under the rug as much as possible incase ceartin people may come to light through deep investigations as being connected to these disgusting happenings that are being forced upon innocent children?

Respect to this man anyway for not standing down, as from what ive read he has received no less (unsuprisingly) than absolute hell from everyone he tried to turn to for help, if it be child protection services or high ranked officers.

One of the strangest things with jimmy savile was when he was put into a senior role managing broadmoor psychiatric hospital, he was a dj, eccentric tv presenter, and well known nonce. surely somebody thought he might not be suitable.

here is an extract from the report about it: "One curious feature of the paperwork that does exist suggests to us that Graham [cliff graham senior civil servant now deceased] felt some concern over how the appointment of Savile to a significant management position in the hospital would be perceived within the Department of Health: almost always when he mentioned Savile, Graham was careful to refer to him as ‘Dr Savile’.

 

[ed skull murphy]

One of the strangest things with jimmy savile was when he was put into a senior role managing broadmoor psychiatric hospital, he was a dj, eccentric tv presenter, and well known nonce. surely somebody thought he might not be suitable.

here is an extract from the report about it: "One curious feature of the paperwork that does exist suggests to us that Graham [cliff graham senior civil servant now deceased] felt some concern over how the appointment of Savile to a significant management position in the hospital would be perceived within the Department of Health: almost always when he mentioned Savile, Graham was careful to refer to him as ‘Dr Savile’.

Savile was a 'black magician', in a similar vein as Aleister Crowley... a very talented change-agent who could 'fix' things, or swing events to the favour of the establishment.

He got us into the EU, or EEC as it was called when Ted Heath signed us up to it. Heath would sail his yacht 'Morning Cloud' down to Jersey, where Savile would set him up with 'dates' who were a bit on the young side, and of the same sex, from the Haut de la Garenne orphanage. Heath thus became totally compromised and controllable.

Broadmoor and Tavistock are linked. It's only a few mile down the road, I believe.

 

[mack341]

Liz MacKean and Jill Dando were both investigating this sickening business, and they both paid dearly for it.

I was watching an interesting film on youtube about jill dando by richard d. hall, only just come across him so don't know if he is a disinfo agent etc he was linking dando's death to the london nail bomber attacks by david copeland, as she was murdered 1 week after doing a crimewatch program covering the first bomb asking the public to phone in with any info. the theory is quite complicated so i won't try and explain it here.

 

[mack341]

Savile was a 'black magician', in a similar vein as Aleister Crowley... a very talented change-agent who could 'fix' things, or swing events to the favour of the establishment.

He got us into the EU, or EEC as it was called when Ted Heath signed us up to it. Heath would sail his yacht 'Morning Cloud' down to Jersey, where Savile would set him up with 'dates' who were a bit on the young side, and of the same sex, from the Haut de la Garenne orphanage. Heath thus became totally compromised and controllable.

Broadmoor and Tavistock are linked. It's only a few mile down the road, I believe.

yes this 'compromised' politician is key to understanding modern political history, and probably for hundreds of years blackmail has been used to do trade deals, get people to be spies etc..

 

[mack341]

this thread itself is probably being watched by gchq, as they have to gather mass information and then sieve it.

It's depressing the grooming rape gang crimes can happen under the very nose of authority.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I like Richard D Hall, I'm fairly certain he is OK, but don't get too sucked in by his alien stuff; it is certainly interesting, but he is only reporting on eye-witness accounts, because that is all there is, he doesn't give a personal opinion, just lays out the evidence of what he has found.

The Moon Landings fakery and secret space programme stuff is OK, and the British establishment stuff that he covers is very good, pretty much all of his videos are worth watching.

He is a scientist, so he lays out the facts or accounts that he has discovered and leaves it for the audience to work it out for themselves.

Check out the video called 'Patsy Driver'.

I think Jill Dando was just becoming a nuisance for the establishment, I vaguely remember that episode on Richplanet, I'll have to watch it again.

 

[mack341]

I like Richard D Hall, I'm fairly certain he is OK, but don't get too sucked in by his alien stuff; it is certainly interesting, but he is only reporting on eye-witness accounts, because that is all there is, he doesn't give a personal opinion, just lays out the evidence of what he has found.

The Moon Landings fakery and secret space programme stuff is OK, and the British establishment stuff that he covers is very good, pretty much all of his videos are worth watching.

He is a scientist, so he lays out the facts or accounts that he has discovered and leaves it for the audience to work it out for themselves.

Check out the video called 'Patsy Driver'.

I think Jill Dando was just becoming a nuisance for the establishment, I vaguely remember that episode on Richplanet, I'll have to watch it again.

I like his logical approach, the jill dando film was called kill jill [a ref to kill bill i suppose, bit tacky but sticks in the memory] and it is 4 parts long. I was watching one of his shows about 911 and he had 2 guys discussing it with him but I thought one of them put credence to judith wood and directed weapons or something which I think is a load of old pony.

Another show was on the manchester arena bombing and he had nick kollerstrom with him who was kind of saying it was fake which I found quite distasteful, now whether the bomber should have been under surveillance and apprehended before blowing himself up is a different issue and worthy of investigation.

 

[mack341]

just to add you can bet your bottom dollar that there are paid disinfo agents in the alternative news sector, I don't find it particularly hard to have my suspicions raised. whether in the future the younger generations coming through will have enough nouse, [after receiving a dumbed down education and spending all their available time on social media] to spot the frauds remains to be seen. IMO icke is genuine but is digging his feet in with the lizards/aliens theories because for him to about face and say I got these things wrong would mean he loses all credibility on the geopolitical/surveillance state issues he is nearer to the truth on.

 

[ed skull murphy]

just to add you can bet your bottom dollar that there are paid disinfo agents in the alternative news sector, I don't find it particularly hard to have my suspicions raised. whether in the future the younger generations coming through will have enough nouse, [after receiving a dumbed down education and spending all their available time on social media] to spot the frauds remains to be seen. IMO icke is genuine but is digging his feet in with the lizards/aliens theories because for him to about face and say I got these things wrong would mean he loses all credibility on the geopolitical/surveillance state issues he is nearer to the truth on.

There are, it's called 'cointelpro', after the CIA's counter-intelligence programme, I'm fairly sure Icke is one.

Kollerstrom is no fool, I'd be inclined to believe him. The acid test is that Nick Kollerstrom lost his University job for pissing off the establishment.

I think it is more distasteful to be scaring the shit out of the public with these 'staged terror events' real or fake, and I believe that recently a lot of these events are in fact completely staged by crisis actors and film crews. For example, there is a mobile phone audio recording of some kids sitting in that bus at the Woolwich farce, one of the kids says "I'm going to the sweetshop in the break after this next take" or words to that effect.

 

[mack341]

oh I didn't know kollerstoms background, I thought I had heard him say some sensible things before but that is how disinfo agents work. remember the security services recruit a lot of people from universities, teachers and pupils, its not beyond their wit to try and build up someone's credibility. I will look though at more of kollerstroms interviews etc to form a more considered opinion.

I don't believe the elite/establishment would risk being exposed by doing fake terrorist attacks with crisis actors etc... and if you post pictures of the aftermath of a terrorist 'event' and start saying these people don't look seriously injured etc.. you are going to turn people's stomachs and gain a lot of negative publicity for alternative media. The most glaring inside job for me was 911 but most people don't even think twice about it, cannot see anything that was odd and totally buy the official narrative.

 

[ed skull murphy]

I don't believe the elite/establishment would risk being exposed by doing fake terrorist attacks with crisis actors etc...

They know that a small percentage are on to them and watching every move, so they are moving away from real events to mock-ups.

It won't matter if a few people shout 'fake!' because the majority who are glued to their HD TV sets will swallow it and it is them that the elites are trying to con.

 

[ed skull murphy]

Another good Farage compilation... the man is a phenomenon, he is fearless!

 

[shadow123]

Anyone remember Tony Blair sending tanks into heathrow when he was trying to gain support for our Irag involvement?
The establishment would do anything to get what they want including full blown terror attacks

 

[goatwack]

On a brighter note for Tommy, should only be the 12 months to go now

 

[TheAddict]

Anyone remember Tony Blair sending tanks into heathrow when he was trying to gain support for our Irag involvement?
The establishment would do anything to get what they want including full blown terror attacks

Maybe he genuinely thought they had wings.

 

[shadow123]

Sounded like red bull to me

 

[ed skull murphy]

Anyone remember Tony Blair sending tanks into heathrow when he was trying to gain support for our Irag involvement?
The establishment would do anything to get what they want including full blown terror attacks

Yep, and in 2005 they hired their chums from the Mossad to plant C4 plastic explosives on the underground trains and double-decker bus in order to keep Iraq going. 7/7 was a real bloodbath, and the patsies weren't even on the trains/bus, they were apparently later shot dead by a police special unit, in Canary Wharf. Probably the same unit that shot the electrician, De Menezes.

It may have been that monumental screw-up that prompted them to start using actors and fake blood for future 'terror events'.

 

[ed skull murphy]

 

[goatwack]

And so it came to pass that Tommy Robinson got bailed, seems like it was a bit of a bungled rush-job by the sneering judge to have him incarcerated.

Doesn't make Robinson 'right' but it is what it is, presently

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[mellody]

Omg what is this thread doing on CM. I live in Leeds where Tommy Robinson was jailed for contempt of court, and rightly so! He filmed the jury at the trial added his diatribe and uploaded it live to you tube. He is nothing more than a neo nazi preaching hate and ignorance. He is on bail but will be back in court very soon, and back in custody I hope. We had skinhead bootboys rioting in the town centre, and I mean old style meatheads, hijacking the world cup. Football fascism has no place in society and freedom of speech has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson. He is not a patriot but the worst kind of nationalist with a very violent criminal history. Anyone here watched Hannibal the series? The tongue thing would be the only appropriate action in my humble but very aware opinion.

 

[dunover]

Omg what is this thread doing on CM. I live in Leeds where Tommy Robinson was jailed for contempt of court, and rightly so! He filmed the jury at the trial added his diatribe and uploaded it live to you tube. He is nothing more than a neo nazi preaching hate and ignorance. He is on bail but will be back in court very soon, and back in custody I hope. We had skinhead bootboys rioting in the town centre, and I mean old style meatheads, hijacking the world cup. Football fascism has no place in society and freedom of speech has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson. He is not a patriot but the worst kind of nationalist with a very violent criminal history. Anyone here watched Hannibal the series? The tongue thing would be the only appropriate action in my humble but very aware opinion.

And why do you get people following TR, or people like him to begin with? Simply because the BBC and media are in denial about many serious issues in society today as are the so-called politicians. This is contradictory to logic and reality as there are big swathes of the UK populace that share those concerns and therefore they ally with anybody like him prepared to stick their head above the parapet and take the flak. Remember it was the so-called 'far right' that first publicised the racist muslim paedophile raping gangs and the BBC chose to waste YOUR money prosecuting Griffin (found not guilty) and then roll on several years we have tens of the sick f*cks in jail, hundreds of young girls with lives in tatters and a whole plethora of local councillors, politicians, media honchos and Police chiefs hanging their heads in shame.

 

[goatwack]

Media whitewashing and bungled police cover-ups are the reasons why people like Tommy Robinson are heard, as he and others of his ilk are the only ones willing to offer a different viewpoint, that is all!

 

[mellody]

Media whitewashing and bungled police cover-ups are the reasons why people like Tommy Robinson are heard, as he and others of his ilk are the only ones willing to offer a different viewpoint, that is all!

Ignorance and apathy are the only reasons people follow this man, or a naive belief that he is right in his views. He has no concern for the victims it's just another cause he has hijacked to justify his neanderthal beliefs.

 

[SpinUk]

And why do you get people following TR, or people like him to begin with? Simply because the BBC and media are in denial about many serious issues in society today as are the so-called politicians. This is contradictory to logic and reality as there are big swathes of the UK populace that share those concerns and therefore they ally with anybody like him prepared to stick their head above the parapet and take the flak. Remember it was the so-called 'far right' that first publicised the racist muslim paedophile raping gangs and the BBC chose to waste YOUR money prosecuting Griffin (found not guilty) and then roll on several years we have tens of the sick f*cks in jail, hundreds of young girls with lives in tatters and a whole plethora of local councillors, politicians, media honchos and Police chiefs hanging their heads in shame.

The grooming gang members jailed are well in their hundreds now and the issue has also emerged as multi regional across the country.

As a particular “community” hasn’t managed to get its house in order over this for the last 15 years, coupled with the fact of a shite scared politically correct police and social services who did nothing - shame on them- it was always going happen there would be far right fringe movement to take up the mantle. If it wasnt Tommy Robinson it would be someone else.

 

[SpinUk]

Omg what is this thread doing on CM. I live in Leeds where Tommy Robinson was jailed for contempt of court, and rightly so! He filmed the jury at the trial added his diatribe and uploaded it live to you tube. He is nothing more than a neo nazi preaching hate and ignorance. He is on bail but will be back in court very soon, and back in custody I hope. We had skinhead bootboys rioting in the town centre, and I mean old style meatheads, hijacking the world cup. Football fascism has no place in society and freedom of speech has nothing to do with Tommy Robinson. He is not a patriot but the worst kind of nationalist with a very violent criminal history. Anyone here watched Hannibal the series? The tongue thing would be the only appropriate action in my humble but very aware opinion.

I wonder how sympathetic to “fair trial” you would be if it had been your daughter who had been victim to the grooming gangs. So far all the major court cases on this have had unanimous guilty verdicts with long sentances, and rightly so.

 

[mellody]

I wonder how sympathetic to “fair trial” you would be if it had been your daughter who had been victim to the grooming gangs. So far all the major court cases on this have had unanimous guilty verdicts with long sentances, and rightly so.

Indeed I do know many adults who were groomed as children, Mostly in the 70's and 80's when such thing were not even covered in mainstream media. Unfortunately it is not only muslim men who rape and groom children. Locally many muslim leaders have attempted to address this situation and aware of the statistics. Our judicial system is fucked, our police are sometimes corrupt and incompetent but does that mean we have to hark back to the age of "all men are rapists" or in this case all muslim men? Because that's what TR and his followers are preaching. The latest statistics that I am aware of show that 12% of the uk prison population convicted of rape and sexual violence are muslim. Shall we just ignore the other 88%? that's what TR is doing?
Some people just need to get perspective.

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[slotplayer]

Amazing how some care more about the perpetrators than the victims.

 

[SpinUk]

The rape and sexual violence figures above are a massively broad brush when compared to the specific child abuse against children.

However, I do know that the 2016 consensus stated a UK Muslim population of 5%, which gives almost a 150% credence probability of that 12% prison population subsection offending.

Still, its easier to say everyone’s racist I guess.

 

[mack341]

Amazing how some care more about the perpetrators than the victims.

Although political correctness came from the US I don't think a scandal like this would happen in america, with police/social services turning a blind eye to grooming gangs raping children.

 

[slotplayer]

Although political correctness came from the US I don't think a scandal like this would happen in america, with police/social services turning a blind eye to grooming gangs raping children.

true, it would not happen here.
I always thought the political correctness non-sense came from somewhere else. It seems it just started here a few years ago. I recall very little pc-bs under the Bush admin, from Obama 2nd term on it escalated along with the id politics.

Perhaps I have it wrong but my conclusion from the "Mr. T" threads posts is your left media is deliberately casting America in a "bad light" in order to keep them buying in to the left wing ideology.

 

[mack341]

true, it would not happen here.
I always thought the political correctness non-sense came from somewhere else. It seems it just started here a few years ago. I recall very little pc-bs under the Bush admin, from Obama 2nd term on it escalated along with the id politics.

Perhaps I have it wrong but my conclusion from the "Mr. T" threads posts is your left media is deliberately casting America in a "bad light" in order to keep them buying in to the left wing ideology.

My first memory of it was in the early 90's, we had a talk radio presenter/legend in the uk called mike dickin and I remember he was against it right back then when it surfaced here. At first I couldn't understand the objection to it as I thought it was just an extension of being polite, not using the 'N' word etc.. but it spread its power and influence to become part of mass thought control and censorship of free speech.

I believe it did begin in american academia and intelligentsia, by the college professors, writers etc, moved into the media and then took over party politics, so it dominates all political debate and therefore other equally or more important issues get sidelined.

Edit: here is mike discussing gambling:

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[colinsunderland]

I wonder how sympathetic to “fair trial” you would be if it had been your daughter who had been victim to the grooming gangs. So far all the major court cases on this have had unanimous guilty verdicts with long sentances, and rightly so.

I must be reading this wrong as I don't understand it. If TR had been outside all the trials, doing what he was doing at Leeds, there is a good chance not guilty verdicts would have been returned, or at least, grounds for appeal and convictions set aside at the court of appeal. If my daughter was a victim I would not want a racist thug with pedophile friends & colleagues anywhere near the court.

 

[dunover]

I must be reading this wrong as I don't understand it. If TR had been outside all the trials, doing what he was doing at Leeds, there is a good chance not guilty verdicts would have been returned, or at least, grounds for appeal and convictions set aside at the court of appeal. If my daughter was a victim I would not want a racist thug with pedophile friends & colleagues anywhere near the court.

There WERE protests outside the courts in a few of those infamous trials.

So you are saying our judicial system is so bad, that the CPS and Police and judges and juries and doctors are so stupid that different verdicts would have been returned because TR's presence would have overridden all of their carefully collated and presented evidence or decisions?

Crikey, even the Graudina paper wouldn't have come up with that little gem on a bad day!

 

[mack341]

For balance I think tommy ought to film the police officers and social workers [plus their bosses] who deliberately turned a blind eye and failed to protect these children, and also the judges who keep giving out these poxy soft sentences.

 

[colinsunderland]

There WERE protests outside the courts in a few of those infamous trials.

So you are saying our judicial system is so bad, that the CPS and Police and judges and juries and doctors are so stupid that different verdicts would have been returned because TR's presence would have overridden all of their carefully collated and presented evidence or decisions?

Crikey, even the Graudina paper wouldn't have come up with that little gem on a bad day!

No, but juries being plastered all over facebook/twitter etc can put them under pressure to return a different verdict than they would otherwise. It also allows the jury to be dismissed, and can result in the CPS not going for a re-trial. Not sure why you mention the police, CPS, Doctors or Judge as they don't decide the verdict.

There are very good reasons why reporting restrictions are in place at some trials, he is a racist idiot who will, one day, enable some pedophiles to go free (like his nonce mates).

 

[colinsunderland]

For balance I think tommy ought to film the police officers and social workers [plus their bosses] who deliberately turned a blind eye and failed to protect these children, and also the judges who keep giving out these poxy soft sentences.

Wonder why his friends weren't protesting after someone was convicted of having sex with a 13 year old.

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Oh wait, white, female, yep, thats fine then with Tommy and his crew.

 

[SpinUk]

Wonder why his friends weren't protesting after someone was convicted of having sex with a 13 year old.

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Oh wait, white, female, yep, thats fine then with Tommy and his crew.

Yes because thats exactly the same as systematically gang-raping a vulnerable teenager, pimping them out to your mates and getting them hooked on heroin. Rinse and repeat across the country.

 

[dunover]

Wonder why his friends weren't protesting after someone was convicted of having sex with a 13 year old.

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Oh wait, white, female, yep, thats fine then with Tommy and his crew.

It's hardly relevant to a massive imported issue of organized large-scale rape seemingly excused by 'cultural differences' in some quarters, that's why. Bit like asking why an individual druggie shoplifter doesn't get the same attention as the Brinks Mat robbery. I love it when the liberals clutch at straws, because they can't believe people have the audacity to disagree with them.

It gave me a chuckle, like the poster above proudly proclaiming 'Muslim rapists are only 12.5% of the convicted total' and rather foolishly forgetting to mention that pro-rata this is 2.5 times the offending rate elsewhere. Then again, they are very selective with their facts. If you want to bang on about paedos, check out Corbyn ignoring things when he was a councillor in London, a true 'Islington Trendy' so much so that some of his own MP's didn't think it was appropriate he should become Labour leader. John Mann for example sent Mr Corbyn an open letter in which he said that his failure to tackle child abuse means it would be inappropriate for him to be the Labour leader.

Going off at a tangent is the classic symptom of people who realize they are debating from a very weak position.

 

[mack341]

Wonder why his friends weren't protesting after someone was convicted of having sex with a 13 year old.

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Oh wait, white, female, yep, thats fine then with Tommy and his crew.

I think these cases are different though Col a woman can't really rape somebody IMO but it is grooming/abuse. Something has changed in the country, I don't believe the rape gangs would have got away with it in the 80's. Whereas that sort of case you highlight has gone on for years, I think some headmistress/school teacher was banged up last year for historic abuse.

 

[SpinUk]

It's hardly relevant to a massive imported issue of organized large-scale rape seemingly excused by 'cultural differences' in some quarters, that's why. Bit like asking why an individual druggie shoplifter doesn't get the same attention as the Brinks Mat robbery. I love it when the liberals clutch at straws, because they can't believe people have the audacity to disagree with them.

It gave me a chuckle, like the poster above proudly proclaiming 'Muslim rapists are only 12.5% of the convicted total' and rather foolishly forgetting to mention that pro-rata this is 2.5 times the offending rate elsewhere. Then again, they are very selective with their facts. If you want to bang on about paedos, check out Corbyn ignoring things when he was a councillor in London, a true 'Islington Trendy' so much so that some of his own MP's didn't think it was appropriate he should become Labour leader. John Mann for example sent Mr Corbyn an open letter in which he said that his failure to tackle child abuse means it would be inappropriate for him to be the Labour leader.

Going off at a tangent is the classic symptom of people who realize they are debating from a very weak position.

On other “massive imported issues” have a google of the origination of acid attacks, the likes of which have increased around 500% in the last four years in London alone.

 

[colinsunderland]

It's hardly relevant to a massive imported issue of organized large-scale rape seemingly excused by 'cultural differences' in some quarters, that's why. Bit like asking why an individual druggie shoplifter doesn't get the same attention as the Brinks Mat robbery. I love it when the liberals clutch at straws, because they can't believe people have the audacity to disagree with them.

It gave me a chuckle, like the poster above proudly proclaiming 'Muslim rapists are only 12.5% of the convicted total' and rather foolishly forgetting to mention that pro-rata this is 2.5 times the offending rate elsewhere. Then again, they are very selective with their facts. If you want to bang on about paedos, check out Corbyn ignoring things when he was a councillor in London, a true 'Islington Trendy' so much so that some of his own MP's didn't think it was appropriate he should become Labour leader. John Mann for example sent Mr Corbyn an open letter in which he said that his failure to tackle child abuse means it would be inappropriate for him to be the Labour leader.

Going off at a tangent is the classic symptom of people who realize they are debating from a very weak position.

You seem to be going off at a tangent.

No one has said there isn't a problem with Muslims and (especially) grooming. There clearly is. I personally find it disgusting that they were allowed to continue despite clear evidence, and think the police who failed to protect the victims, should be at least, sacked, and possibly charged with aiding and abetting them, as thats what they did.

However, that doesn't mean some idiot should be allowed to disrupt trials and risk current and future convictions of the exact people he is protesting against.

Not sure your point regarding Corbyn, he wasn't protesting outside court against paedos, whilst working alongside and being mates with paedos was he? Shame Robinson didn't get sugared inside, most people who admit to being mates with nonces would have, bet he was hiding on 43's.

 

[mack341]

It's hardly relevant to a massive imported issue of organized large-scale rape seemingly excused by 'cultural differences' in some quarters, that's why. Bit like asking why an individual druggie shoplifter doesn't get the same attention as the Brinks Mat robbery. I love it when the liberals clutch at straws, because they can't believe people have the audacity to disagree with them.

It gave me a chuckle, like the poster above proudly proclaiming 'Muslim rapists are only 12.5% of the convicted total' and rather foolishly forgetting to mention that pro-rata this is 2.5 times the offending rate elsewhere. Then again, they are very selective with their facts. If you want to bang on about paedos, check out Corbyn ignoring things when he was a councillor in London, a true 'Islington Trendy' so much so that some of his own MP's didn't think it was appropriate he should become Labour leader. John Mann for example sent Mr Corbyn an open letter in which he said that his failure to tackle child abuse means it would be inappropriate for him to be the Labour leader.

Going off at a tangent is the classic symptom of people who realize they are debating from a very weak position.

failure to tackle child abuse should mean he's not fit to be an mp let alone leader, IIRC Dame Margaret Hodge was also involved in that islington abuse scandal as the leader of the council. Covering up for paedophiles by failing to properly investigate abuse in the care system was endemic in those days IMO.