Thunderstruck II Features

[premiergaming]

As you players know if you keep playing Thunderstruck the feature keeps getting better.

Anybody got any thoughts on which feature is better our of the 4.

Thanks

 

[dionysus]

Six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other, really. One doesnt really pay and better than another; personally, I like watching the Loki feature though

 

[Tirilej]

I can't figure out what 32Red has to do with the game. Isn't it the same everywhere

 

[Simmo!]

As you players know if you keep playing Thunderstruck the feature keeps getting better.

Anybody got any thoughts on which feature is better our of the 4.

Thanks

Not so much better as different. I'd suggest each one has a slightly lower variance than the last.

...personally, I like watching the Loki feature though

Snap! I switch between that and Valkyrie normally or if I have a very low bankroll I go to the Rolling Reels one. Don't like the Crow one.

I can't figure out what 32Red has to do with the game. Isn't it the same everywhere

It is. I renamed the thread to make it a little more relevant.

 

[Redbet-Andy]

I'd actually say they get worse (in my playing experience).
I always go for the Valkyries. Always.

Although to be fair to MG the excitement generated after the Valkyries kept me playing, even through that Loki madness, and it was only after I collected all of the bonuses that I realised the first one was the best.
I think there's a lesson there for all the girls who dated me first and were "disappointed" or "unfulfilled" ...
:sob::sob:


Anyway, sorry I digress, does anyone opt for Loki?

 

[09237653]

Personally on TS2 i will always take Lokis wild magic. same goes for IR and Finer reels of life, Wild magic/vine/wine all the way.

 

[dionysus]

Loki for ts 2
Sarah or troy for IR
Smoking cigars for FR

 

[dunover]

Funny. I hate the LOKI feature with a passion. I have not taken it in almost 2 years. When playing a 'new' TSII I always take Valkyries for the first 9 sessions and then always the Ravens feature. I never take the rolling reels either. I sometimes switch back to Valkyries after getting 2 consecutive good features on the Ravens - these 'random' freespins seem to have a definite pattern, especially the Ravens. Every time I hit big on the Ravens, say 150x stake, the next one always seems to pay 60-80x, then the next 2 are poor to mediocre. That's when I switch to Valkyries. And yes, they will be poor too...

 

[Sovietsky]

Loki have always saved me and he alwys places his wilds where it is needed. Sarah on the other hand places her wilds mostly on reel 5 and 3.
Only reason I choose Sarah is beacuse of the song.

TS2 I choose Loki
IM Amber or Troy

 

[kktmd]

299.473 spins, 30 bet, free play

Game	SpinStyle	Games	Total wagered	Total won	RTP	Max win	Max xBet	Variance
Thunderstruck II		296721	8901630	6043254	0,6789	4200	140	7664
Thunderstruck II	Loki JumpingWild	477	14310	642400	44,8917	16353	545,1	2910582
Thunderstruck II	Odin Ravens	489	14670	648489	44,2051	9794	326,4667	1477505
Thunderstruck II	Thor ReelSlide	476	14280	611966	42,8548	12520	417,3333	1525548
Thunderstruck II	Valkyrie	470	14100	590226	41,86	13215	440,5	2626691
Thunderstruck II	WildStorm	840	25200	361782	14,3564	5535	184,5	383142

 

[kktmd]

1.052.594 spins, 30 bet, free play

Game	SpinStyle	Games	Total wagered	Total won	RTP	Max win	Max xBet	Variance
Immortal Romance		1043567	31307010	20250149	0,6468	16165	538,8333	8849
Immortal Romance	Amber	1643	49290	2016697	40,9149	20560	685,3333	2858608
Immortal Romance	Michael ReelSlide	1579	47370	1943357	41,0251	17627	587,5667	1441870
Immortal Romance	Sarah JumpingWild	1581	47430	1960918	41,3434	27342	911,4	2655315
Immortal Romance	Troy Bats	1643	49290	1994768	40,47	22865	762,1667	1930194
Immortal Romance	WildDesire	2581	77430	2170319	28,0294	95175	3172,5	10380756

 

[Seventh777]

I will state that Odin's feature will always give a return, no matter how small, the only feature that gives anywhere near it's potential is Valkyrie's, not including x5 scatters / wilds, i've had the lot, including a monster x4 wilds combi hit and x4 scatters, I always take her feature tbh .

 

[mrmark21]

I always take Amber's or Troy's spins on Immortal Romance. Thunderstruck 2 generally Valkyrie or Odin. I prefer Immortal Romance seems to pay better, at least for me anyway. I choose those two because the Sarah/Loki wilds aren't generally that helpful. The rolling reels is quite the same thing, I've never gotten a useful combination on that 5 x multiplier.

 

[dunover]

This excercise would be good on BDBA too. I think.

 

[Balthazar]

299.473 spins, 30 bet, free play

So according to your stats, you have approx 1/350 chance to get the Wildstorm feature on TS2 as opposed to 1/400 to get WildDesire on IR. That would make sense considering that WD has more potential than WS.

Pretty useful stats kktmd, thanks a lot.


Edit: the chance to trigger the FS seems to be about the same on both slots (1/155 on TS2 and 1/162 on IR).

 

[dunover]

Yes, we can now see the varitations between TSII and IR. I suggest the Finer Things would be the next one, as it can (being a part-clone) be compared side by side with these two. I would still like to see BDBA done, as being a very high-variance slot, we could see if there is a certain 'spread' to the wins.

 

[kktmd]

I'm doing 1spin/sec on Finer Reels and 1spin/sec on Thunderstruck II right now. I've done about 350k spins on Thunderstruck II and 50k spins on FROL.

I was doing 10spins/sec, but got kicked out, so I dialed the speed down a bit. I certainly dont want to cause problems for the MG servers!

I'll continue til I pass 1 mio spins on both.

I wanted to do 1 mio spins in real play for comparison, but thats pretty expensive when the minimum bet is 30. I think I'll choose Hellboy or Tombraider II for this (since I can bet only one line). With a little luck, that should only set me back about 500 usd. (1mio spins * 0,01 bet * 0,05)

 

[maphesto]

I wanted to do 1 mio spins in real play for comparison, but thats pretty expensive when the minimum bet is 30. I think I'll choose Hellboy or Tombraider II for this (since I can bet only one line). With a little luck, that should only set me back about 500 usd. (1mio spins * 0,01 bet * 0,05)

Is there a way to do this without breaking their rules?

I think this is against most casinos T&C:s in real money play?

I use my own client. Its just one server talking to another server. I could probably set it up to run 1mio spins an hour (MG servers have a very fast response time), but I'd probably be IP banned very quickly, so I introduce a random 500-1000 ms pause (and run 3-4 sessions simultaneously to compare answers from the different MG servers).

 

[kktmd]

I agree, this would violate t&c. If I loose 500 usd, I think the casino would probably ignore this fact. If I win, there is a good chance they would withhold my winnings (which would be ok).

AFAIK, using bots is not illegal, but IS against T&C at most casinos. There is an interesting discussion in one of the other threads about this (about using pokerbots).

 

[dunover]

I will state that Odin's feature will always give a return, no matter how small, the only feature that gives anywhere near it's potential is Valkyrie's, not including x5 scatters / wilds, i've had the lot, including a monster x4 wilds combi hit and x4 scatters, I always take her feature tbh .

Yeah, I've had the 4 wilds on Valkyrie feature, 5th reel gave Odin and Ship. I've also had ONE Odin feature which paid - ZERO!

 

[Sovietsky]

1.052.594 spins, 30 bet, free play

Ha just what I thought michael and sarah both suck.

 

[LivinLovinDyin]

So it would seem reasonable to play at minimum bets until reaching the needed amount of bonus rounds to get all the 4 features, and increase the bet only after that.

 

[tee524]

Thunderstruck II - Can someone help determing actual value of win. Screen and payout

Hello all, I am relatively new to gambling and have run into a problem. Recently played Thunderstruck II. The game froze on a big win showing only 172 the rest of the numbers were cut off. The casino paid me only $53.00? I can't seem to get anywhere with them trying to sort this out even with sending them actual picture of the win. Customer service also looked into at the time and were shocked themselves, yet I still get nowhere?

My bet was 0.1 Max bet $3.00
Reels showed
9 - Bonus - Odin - Queen - Joker
T struck - Queen - Queen -ten - Queen
Ace - Jack - Jack - T struck - Odin

Can anyone verify what this win would be given the differences between what was paid vs. the screenshot? Appreciate your help!
Tee524

 

[Osloking]

Hello all, I am relatively new to gambling and have run into a problem. Recently played Thunderstruck II. The game froze on a big win showing only 172 the rest of the numbers were cut off. The casino paid me only $53.00? I can't seem to get anywhere with them trying to sort this out even with sending them actual picture of the win. Customer service also looked into at the time and were shocked themselves, yet I still get nowhere?

My bet was 0.1 Max bet $3.00
Reels showed
9 - Bonus - Odin - Queen - Joker
T struck - Queen - Queen -ten - Queen
Ace - Jack - Jack - T struck - Odin

Can anyone verify what this win would be given the differences between what was paid vs. the screenshot? Appreciate your help!
Tee524

You could check the playcheck to see the whole "result" login to your account and press > my account > view my game history

Good luck!

 

[mathsboy1975]

I agree, this would violate t&c. If I loose 500 usd, I think the casino would probably ignore this fact. If I win, there is a good chance they would withhold my winnings (which would be ok).

AFAIK, using bots is not illegal, but IS against T&C at most casinos. There is an interesting discussion in one of the other threads about this (about using pokerbots).

I find this pretty interesting - is there any reason that casinos would not want you to use a bot to place your bets. Since the games are stacked in their favour, it is a fact that the more times you play, the more that the casino wins. If a bot enables you to make more spins per unit time, then that can only result in the casino winning money off you more quickly. I cannot see why they would not want that. Poker bots being banned I can completely understand, but I cannot see why they would frown upon if you slots. Are there any specific reasons for this?? Is is perhaps due to increased load across their servers or something like that?

 

[dunover]

I find this pretty interesting - is there any reason that casinos would not want you to use a bot to place your bets. Since the games are stacked in their favour, it is a fact that the more times you play, the more that the casino wins. If a bot enables you to make more spins per unit time, then that can only result in the casino winning money off you more quickly. I cannot see why they would not want that. Poker bots being banned I can completely understand, but I cannot see why they would frown upon if you slots. Are there any specific reasons for this?? Is is perhaps due to increased load across their servers or something like that?

Because bots could give a big advantage on tournaments that are time-sensitive.

 

[dunover]

Hello all, I am relatively new to gambling and have run into a problem. Recently played Thunderstruck II. The game froze on a big win showing only 172 the rest of the numbers were cut off. The casino paid me only $53.00? I can't seem to get anywhere with them trying to sort this out even with sending them actual picture of the win. Customer service also looked into at the time and were shocked themselves, yet I still get nowhere?

My bet was 0.1 Max bet $3.00
Reels showed
9 - Bonus - Odin - Queen - Joker
T struck - Queen - Queen -ten - Queen
Ace - Jack - Jack - T struck - Odin

Can anyone verify what this win would be given the differences between what was paid vs. the screenshot? Appreciate your help!
Tee524

You had one line of 4xjacks doubled.
You had 2 lines of 5oak queens doubled.

One x 3.00 win for doubled 4xjacks or 2 x 1.50 at base rate.
2 x 25.00 wins or 4 x 12.50 for 5 oak queens at base rate.

=53.00

Your payout is 100% CORRECT!

 

[Rugger00]

I've just been staying with Loki but the wins do vary. I did the max one with Thor but since there is no retrigger it can end quite fast if there are no wins which usually is the case for me.

For the finer reels the cigar is nice since if the wild feature lands on a non winning tile it can create more winning lines.

 

[PNEFOREVER2]

Still playing TS2 relentlessly and still haven't had a 3 reeled wildstorm for more for easily more than 2 years now. Always 1 or 2 reels.

Do they even exist anymore?

 

[Sovietsky]

I've seen screenshots of 3 wilds but I have not seen screenshots of 4 wilds.

 

[Blathaon]

Getting a 3 reel wildstorm is a lot harder then getting a 3 reel wild desire.
Here is a quote from kktmd, he has posted alot of interesting stats on both TS2 and IR

On a lighter note:

In all my spins, the best Wildstorm I hit was a 3-reel wild that payed 315xbet!

I only hit a 3-reel Wildstorm 5 times in all - it really deserves the name Shitstorm! I suspect you would have to do 10's or 100's of millions of spin to hit a 5-reel Wildstorm. If I ever hit a 5-reel Wildstorm, I will definitely think the game is rigged

The same number of spins (more or less) on IR gave me 4-reel Wilddesire 5 times, paying 1620xBet, 1688xBet, 1710xBet, 2025xBet and 3172xBet.

I got 3-reel Wilddesire 148 times.

Link to the quoted post

 

[dunover]

I've seen screenshots of 3 wilds but I have not seen screenshots of 4 wilds.

I had 3 once, 18 months ago, got 27x queens for 104-1.

There is a screenie of all 5 wild linked to on here somewhere.

 

[Blathaon]

I had 3 once, 18 months ago, got 27x queens for 104-1.

There is a screenie of all 5 wild linked to on here somewhere.

5 Reel wildstorm

 

[Sovietsky]

I had 3 once, 18 months ago, got 27x queens for 104-1.

There is a screenie of all 5 wild linked to on here somewhere.

I've seen the 5 but I want to see the 4 wilds.

 

[Blathaon]

I've seen the 5 but I want to see the 4 wilds.

Here you go, this is not my win i just found it using google.

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[Sovietsky]

Thanks for the 4 wilds! I have not seen any here at CM.

Here is my theory (tin hat on).
Getting 3 wilds at TS2 is as getting 4 wilds on IM or TFROL
Getting 4 wilds is like getting 5 wilds on IM or TFROL
Getting 5 wilds is like winning the mega jackpot on batman.

 

[dunover]

Thanks for the 4 wilds! I have not seen any here at CM.

Here is my theory (tin hat on).
Getting 3 wilds at TS2 is as getting 4 wilds on IM or TFROL
Getting 4 wilds is like getting 5 wilds on IM or TFROL
Getting 5 wilds is like winning the mega jackpot on batman.

Yes, that's a bad analogy, yes you can have a foil hat - PM me your size please.