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Does "Bob Wild" ring a bell?
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Does "Bob Wild" ring a bell?
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Hmmmmm....the thot plickens.
Any more tidbits Bryan? I remember copping a fair bit of schtick for questioning gid88's version of events so it would be nice to know if my instincts aren't completely off these days.
Any more tidbits Bryan? I remember copping a fair bit of schtick for questioning gid88's version of events so it would be nice to know if my instincts aren't completely off these days.
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Well, it turns out that Gid88 has been yanking pretty much everyone's chains. I'd like to hear from him in the forum before I post what I have on the guy. He mentioned earlier he wanted this all public. I'm going to honor his wishes. 
I feel that TiV could have handled it a bit better in the beginning. But Shaun has been very thorough and diligent in revisiting this issue, and has managed to bring up some damning evidence against this player.
Like I mentioned before, I'd like Gid88 to rejoin this conversation - tell us how he funded his TiV account (very important) and explain who "Bob Wild" is. Bob Wild is another player who shares the same computer with Gid88, who has charged back at Vegas Sky casino.
I feel that TiV could have handled it a bit better in the beginning. But Shaun has been very thorough and diligent in revisiting this issue, and has managed to bring up some damning evidence against this player.
Like I mentioned before, I'd like Gid88 to rejoin this conversation - tell us how he funded his TiV account (very important) and explain who "Bob Wild" is. Bob Wild is another player who shares the same computer with Gid88, who has charged back at Vegas Sky casino.
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What about the $55k he says they paid him?
Popcorn anyone?
Popcorn anyone?
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He doesn't know where that came from. I seriously doubt that came from Rival. Rival has him pegged as a chargebacking player. I seriously doubt some CSR peep could have sent him this amount out of the blue for nothing.What about the $55k he says they paid him?
Popcorn anyone?
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where's it from
you mean he routinely gets $55k and doesn't know where it's from???
He must be some player!
you mean he routinely gets $55k and doesn't know where it's from???
He must be some player!
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What about the $55k he says they paid him?
Popcorn anyone?
Pass me some, please. Should be interesting to read this thread
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Pass me some, please. Should be interesting to read this thread
IF he dares to come back now that he knows that he is "busted"...
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HUH ???
Are you serious CM, not sure where you are getting your info from..."Bob Wild" never have I used this name IN MY LIFE at any casino, in fact never have I used this name AT ALL on the net. Did you want me to post my email conversations with Shaun ? Would be glad to. the last exchange we had, revolved around a mis-understandinig of charge backs made to a Sloto Account and he is in the process of obtaining further information.
"BOB WILD"..WTH ? where do you get your info from..and to answer your question...NO IT DOES NOT ring a bell, please check your information before making accusations.
Does "Bob Wild" ring a bell?
Are you serious CM, not sure where you are getting your info from..."Bob Wild" never have I used this name IN MY LIFE at any casino, in fact never have I used this name AT ALL on the net. Did you want me to post my email conversations with Shaun ? Would be glad to. the last exchange we had, revolved around a mis-understandinig of charge backs made to a Sloto Account and he is in the process of obtaining further information.
"BOB WILD"..WTH ? where do you get your info from..and to answer your question...NO IT DOES NOT ring a bell, please check your information before making accusations.
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I figured you'd deny the Bob Wild thing. 
You didn't answer the question on how did you fund your TiV account.
You didn't answer the question on how did you fund your TiV account.
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Well, it turns out that Gid88 has been yanking pretty much everyone's chains. I'd like to hear from him in the forum before I post what I have on the guy. He mentioned earlier he wanted this all public. I'm going to honor his wishes.
I feel that TiV could have handled it a bit better in the beginning. But Shaun has been very thorough and diligent in revisiting this issue, and has managed to bring up some damning evidence against this player.
Like I mentioned before, I'd like Gid88 to rejoin this conversation - tell us how he funded his TiV account (very important) and explain who "Bob Wild" is. Bob Wild is another player who shares the same computer with Gid88, who has charged back at Vegas Sky casino.
"Yanking everyone's chain" ? how so?? please explain before making a damning statement like that. I could say "seems like CM is trying to get this issue out of the way to increase advertising revenues"...but did I say it ? no I didn't. Don't go down that path if you want to maintain credibility.
I agree, Shaun has been very diligent in responding to my emails and we have been communicating on a regular basis. To think that he has not disclosed all information to me yet has disclosed information to you i would think is in bad faith, but I don't believe Shaun would do that. So far our communications have been cordial and we have both been trying to sort out a resolution to get to the bottom of this.
CM, for you to come out with this post without first understanding the current situation between Shaun and myself with respect to how we are resolving this..is well.i have no words.
Are you admitting also that when you did investigate my PAB and gave TIV their rogue status (with a damning statement) that your investigations were not thorough enough ? I won't comment further on where i am leading with this.
If this is the way you want to run your forum, fine, it is YOUR forum....just don't represent yourself as an advocate for players. Nevertheless, i'm sure you'll ave your army of forum moderators to back you up and defend you no matter what.
Hey you know what CM,put TIV back in the accredited list, delete this thread and all others related to it. Pretend it never happened. Delete my account and use that money that you get to continue to fund your boozing, cruising and losing lifestyle.
Post what you want on me, defending I feel would be useless. You have made up your mind. The information I have that has been passed onto me by Shaun, we were still communicating (including with respect to the validity and genuineness of the information)...if your plan is to disrupt those communications, so be it. You have an agenda.
CIAO.
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LOL 
This is the fourth time I'm asking. How did you fund your TiV account?
This is the fourth time I'm asking. How did you fund your TiV account?
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JOKE
1000AUD credit card deposit, a copy of the statement which I sent to Shaun. Even signed an authorization form for that 1000AUD with TIV Would you like to see both docs ? well that was a silly question, why would you ?
"I'm not Bob Wild", I'm an asian australian. Every login or username i have ever used on the internet has had an "8" in it (that might not make sense to you). Believe it or not...i think you've chosen the latter
I think you've strategically taken the argument away from TIV being rouge to questioning the validity of a player..well done. In fact nicely done..this will pass, and your ICE trips will still be well funded. Take a bow.
"So here's the low down on this Gid88 guy, turns out he was a fraudulent player and everything he told us during his PAB was a lie..."...thought i'd start off your net posting here CM.
I figured you'd deny the Bob Wild thing.
You didn't answer the question on how did you fund your TiV account.
1000AUD credit card deposit, a copy of the statement which I sent to Shaun. Even signed an authorization form for that 1000AUD with TIV Would you like to see both docs ? well that was a silly question, why would you ?
"I'm not Bob Wild", I'm an asian australian. Every login or username i have ever used on the internet has had an "8" in it (that might not make sense to you). Believe it or not...i think you've chosen the latter
I think you've strategically taken the argument away from TIV being rouge to questioning the validity of a player..well done. In fact nicely done..this will pass, and your ICE trips will still be well funded. Take a bow.
"So here's the low down on this Gid88 guy, turns out he was a fraudulent player and everything he told us during his PAB was a lie..."...thought i'd start off your net posting here CM.
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I figured you'd deny the Bob Wild thing.
You didn't answer the question on how did you fund your TiV account.
100AUD credit card deposit. I sent Shaun a copy of the statement as well as the TIV authorization form for that deposit....which they "vetted', accepted and allowed me to play !! hmmm
oh well, that's not the purpose of this thread now is it CM....I was born in Australia but have an Asian background...every single login i've had on the internet has had an "8" in it...i mean "every" login (except for one gmail account" - not that I expect you to understand the significance of that).
good o'l Bob effing Wild huh ? nice. nice.
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I've already seen the docs - and all of your email correspondence. It doesn't change the fact that the TiV account was funded by a C2P account in your name, which you categorically denied having. What's up with that?
Looks like you're too busy making counter-accusations to get your story straight. Sorry - you can't push my buttons that way.
Looks like you're too busy making counter-accusations to get your story straight.
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1000AUD credit card deposit, a copy of the statement which I sent to Shaun. Even signed an authorization form for that 1000AUD with TIV Would you like to see both docs ? well that was a silly question, why would you ?
"I'm not Bob Wild", I'm an asian australian. Every login or username i have ever used on the internet has had an "8" in it (that might not make sense to you). Believe it or not...i think you've chosen the latter
I think you've strategically taken the argument away from TIV being rouge to questioning the validity of a player..well done. In fact nicely done..this will pass, and your ICE trips will still be well funded. Take a bow.
"So here's the low down on this Gid88 guy, turns out he was a fraudulent player and everything he told us during his PAB was a lie..."...thought i'd start off your net posting here CM.
'So what's with the 'asian' and '8' thing. I am also asian and '8' is a lucky number in Chinese. However, I also learn to be respectful especially when you are a guest at someone else's home (in this instance Bryan's forum).
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At the moment, I have better things to do than argue with GiD88 who is being way less than truthful here. I'll continue this on Monday. It's supposed to be a holiday for me today
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Your long winded strawman argument does nothing for your credibility. Instead of directly addressing what CM said, you just muddied the waters and made yourself look guilty by attacking.
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At the moment, I have better things to do than argue with GiD88 who is being way less than truthful here. I'll continue this on Monday. It's supposed to be a holiday for me today
What in the world are you talking about, you've derailed the complete amicable communications that Shaun and I have been having, including those C2P payments which Shaun sent to me and which I am currently trying to reconcile AND in communications with C2P. Again, you've made an ass of yourself by stating that someone on your forums is a liar without first understanding the facts.
Admit it CM, you've screwed yourself over by rogueing a casino that has come back and offered you cash for advertising. Poor form, really poor form.
Let me put this question to you, all things considered and assuming Shaun has sent you the information he has sent me, do you think TIV were still rogue in their actions by not paying me out ?
"Being less than truthful", you spent over three months on my PAB and had indicated that you received mountains of information and came to a conclusion ? All of a sudden you've down a "360" - either your PAB process therefore has huge holes in it or you obviously don't put too much effort in finding out all the information, until of course it turns to your financial advantage..how obvious is that ?
cheers. have a nice break.
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I answered his question, and he attacked me first...did you not see that ? My personal email communications with Shaun weren't muddied.
"defense no1.".
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not going to get drawn into a battle that obviously can't be won.
you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.
As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.
thanks.
At the moment, I have better things to do than argue with GiD88 who is being way less than truthful here. I'll continue this on Monday. It's supposed to be a holiday for me today
you know what, don't bother replying. I'm not going to respond. I just realized that this thread is probably drawing traffic to your site. I'm sorry everyone, i'm not going to fuel the fire and this will be my last post here. I am in communications with Shaun, the new owner of the casinos I'll post on "other forums" the outcome. You could probably do a google search once an outcome is reached and I'll be more than happy to grant access to email correspondence that I have had with Shaun.
As I requested CM, please delete my account and destroy all personal information of mine that you may have in your possession.
thanks.
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Since Shaun is a member I'm sure we'll find out what happens.
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I love how the fraudsters deflect attention away from the real issues by ranting like a ten year old.
It's also part of their MO to deliberately insult their hosts and request their account be closed, so they can trumpet on other forums about how they were "silenced" because their host is "in bed" with the casinos.
Funny thing is that they all claim to be individually smarter than everyone else, when in fact they are just plain old fraudsters just like all the others. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but the smart ones are the ones who don't get caught.
Looking forward to you actually answering Bryans questions. How about it, Bob?
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I've seen the docs. They don't prove anything. Even Shaun mentioned in email to you that they don't prove anything. The amounts shown as a deposit/transfer do not match any deposits in ANY Rival account during those dates. You're BSing people with this.
Back when TiV was originally rogued, the moderators and I had gone through what we had from TiV for a few weeks. It was a really tough call since GID88 seemed to be possibly okay. We gave the guy the benefit of the doubt. With what we had, it looked as though TiV was acting upon what had happened at another casino - Slotocash. This is where Gid88 had made chargebacks from a Credit Card that was "hacked".
What we didn't know was that when Gid88 signed up at TiV, he deposited using click2pay - not a credit card. This has been confirmed by the casino and Click2Pay. In fact, GiD88 has denied categorically that he has a Click2Pay account, and when asked why is there a C2P account in his name that made deposits into his account, he only comes back with counter accusations like in this thread. And claims that he made some CC deposit from his bank. It doesn't fly.
So either both C2P and Rival are lying about this, or the player is scamming everyone.
Here is why the C2P issue is important:
GID88 said he would be satisfied over the whole thing if he could get his deposits back:
From an email from Gid88:
Shaun assumed the deposits had not been returned and he wanted to return these to GiD88, but it turned out that these deposits had been already returned to the C2P account that is in the player's name - when told about this - Gid replied:
He has been going on for a couple of months - never answering the question "do you have a C2P account?" His only concern was why C2P released this information to the casino. Which in fact was normal procedure - no privacy rules were broken.
So by GiD88's own admission, the deposits made in the TiV account which resulted in the $80K win weren't made by him at all. They were made by someone else with the same name, who strangely hacked Gid88's TiV account - deposited and won. So technically, this guy isn't owed anything. It's the player's responsibility to ensure that no one access his account - especially people who share his name
I have all the emails. You're being told that you are a fraudster - and that you aren't to be believed. Don't try to turn this around to make it look like it's something it isn't.
<yawn> yeah, whatever dude.
They were in the rogue pit as a result of what we had back then. It's a shame that you didn't keep hammering people for answers, we would have figured out that you were lying months ago. You're the douchebag, not me.
<double yawn> I'll save you the trip. Boot in the ass - out the door.
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As far as I'm concerned - TiV is out of the pit.
Thanks Shaun for doing the digging you did. Tell your boss you deserve a raise.
Thanks Shaun for doing the digging you did. Tell your boss you deserve a raise.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but if I honestly believed a casino owed me 80K+ there's no way in HELL I'd settle for that much less. Just sayin.
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Sorry if I have not gotten the whole picture here but from what I gathered here the reason it also took along time to resolve is you had both GID88 and another person (the hacker) who had the same name?
GID88's credit card was hacked by the person with the same name and not only this they also made a deposit into CLICK2PAY for the amount of $1000 and this is where ALL of the troubles started.
Did GIDD88 find out that someone used his account at TIV with a fraudulent deposit and they are the ones who actually won on $80k and GIDD8* is trying to say this IS him and he wants the money?
Sorry I just can't make heads or tails of this- if someone could explain this a little better for me that would be appreciated.
Regards,
Same_old
GID88's credit card was hacked by the person with the same name and not only this they also made a deposit into CLICK2PAY for the amount of $1000 and this is where ALL of the troubles started.
Did GIDD88 find out that someone used his account at TIV with a fraudulent deposit and they are the ones who actually won on $80k and GIDD8* is trying to say this IS him and he wants the money?
Sorry I just can't make heads or tails of this- if someone could explain this a little better for me that would be appreciated.
Regards,
Same_old
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Yeah I agree with you there but the other side of that coin is he hasn't let up about this since it all started. Most would have let it go by now but GID88 is still going strong with what he believes.
This case really seems to be a weird one I can tell you and still do not think we have heard the last of it.
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I know, I'm still trying to figure out who Bob Wild is.
There's something I'm not getting either - if I make a deposit via moneybookers and I go to cash out and they put the money into the same account that the original deposit came out of and I say I've never used moneybookers, that doesn't make me a fraudster, just forgetful. Unless of course I funded the moneybookers account with a credit card with someone else's name on it. Or if I funded the account with a credit card that was allegedly hacked and used for a chargeback at another casino....?
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The OP always insisted they used credit card to deposit. It has been revealed that it was actually click2pay. I think that's alarm bells right there.
Gid88 shares a computer with bob wild, or could well be bob wild and is using multiple IDs. Another red flag.
Gid88 also had his deposits refunded already, BUT was trying to negotiate with the new TIV to get those deposits back, knowing full well he already has I.e. was trying to scam another $10k by lying.
Bryan has alluded to other information he has seen but cannot be disclosed, but im satisfied he is dodgy even without that.
Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't.
[Normal everyday players don't have these kind of problems....they just don't]
nifty im not assailing you; but there was a time that i had a go with a accredited casino here
and was childed as being a well / cant believe its what the op said =me
so i unloaded my docs here on the forum for the world to see and after a testy thread the decision was made in my favor as it should have
so that was a one of a kind i believe = innocent till proven guilty
ps i thought that i was stained by the remark's the linguest skilled openent posters leveled at me [but a angel redeemed me ]
respectfuly R C
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The tenacity of fraudsters is part-and-parcel of being a fraudster, IME¹. Typically they'll keep banging away at it until something either cracks (in their favour) or there is absolutely, positively no chance of success (meaning they got caught). It's a natural tendency for most of us to side with the determined underdog and that's exactly what the fraudsters who come here and post their BS "I've been misunderstood, give me money" stories are counting on.
Bottom line: vigorous declarations that 2 + 2 = 11 does not make it so, unless you get tired of hearing it and concede them the point, in which case they'll then and forever hold you to it, not to mention telling all their fraudster buddies that you're an easy mark.
¹IME = "In My Experience"
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Oh absolutely. I'm not saying it never ever happens that innocent players get caught in the net, but it is extremely rare and I would say that the vast majority of honest legit players would play for decades without ever having their bona fides questioned.
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That is the worst forum I have ever read. Very bad! That gid deserved to be punished for a decent fraud. Gid stole money from someone else account using their card instead of his own card. Casino already know and got all evidence piled up against Gid. I hope he has gone to jail! Commit a fraud is go to jail on the spot! I am glad the casino recovered well and fixed all the problems they have had and caught up with some redhand people to kick them out of casino. And good on Casinomeister for doing something to get the fraudster out of sight. I hope these casino will keep up with good work and stay out of rogue pit you do not need to deserve to go into rogue pit if someone made a PAB is full of lies and fraud. It is not nice when it happens. I will never forget this worst forum I have ever read. I respect those good people with good faith, telling truth whole time and listen and talk to each other without problems. Take care people. /End of my rant. 
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That is the worst forum I have ever read. Very bad! That gid deserved to be punished for a decent fraud. Gid stole money from someone else account using their card instead of his own card. Casino already know and got all evidence piled up against Gid. I hope he has gone to jail! Commit a fraud is go to jail on the spot! I am glad the casino recovered well and fixed all the problems they have had and caught up with some redhand people to kick them out of casino. And good on Casinomeister for doing something to get the fraudster out of sight. I hope these casino will keep up with good work and stay out of rogue pit you do not need to deserve to go into rogue pit if someone made a PAB is full of lies and fraud. It is not nice when it happens. I will never forget this worst forum I have ever read. I respect those good people with good faith, telling truth whole time and listen and talk to each other without problems. Take care people. /End of my rant.
Now what has all this to do with your claim that this is the worst forum!
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I believe he just don't know what the word Forum means
He must have wanted to say Thread or just the simple word Thing
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I believe he just don't know what the word Forum means
He must have wanted to say Thread or just the simple word Thing
Thanks though I expected my aussie friends to be better versed with the english language.
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It's like I before I realized where you lived, couldn't understand why you were so good in english. Now I know
Probably someone new to Internet or to the language. I remember when I was new to gambling I sent a message to a casino asking what the word currency ment
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It's like I before I realized where you lived, couldn't understand why you were so good in english. Now I know
Probably someone new to Internet or to the language. I remember when I was new to gambling I sent a message to a casino asking what the word currency ment
You will probably be more surpriused if you knew I was never educated overseas and in fact I never even went to the US, UK or Europe. I have only visited Japan, Malaysia and Singapore during my lifetime. I went to Macau a zillion times for obvious reasons.
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Just because he is in Australia now, that doesn't mean he's a native Australian or that English is his first language.
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