This Is Just So Wrong

[LaurieJim]

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I may not agree with Mr. Obama all the time but i do support him on this. We have many freedoms and one of those is freedom of worship.

Any person who believes that the burning of the Quran is justified in the name of religion is just blindly stupid with radical and racial ideas imo.

The true Quran teaches of love and forgivness just as our own Bible does , this is just maddening that someone who says they love the Lord would do such a thing, its blasphemy in my humble opinion.

There will always be radicals on both sides and this will never end, sad to say. I hope this pastor looks deep into his heart and reflects on what the true meaning of calling ones self a true Christian is all about.


Laurie

 

[anniemac]

Well, LaurieJim, we agree on this.

This guy is a nut and just as bad as the terrorists that plague our country and others.

Nuts like this guy are just a likely to kill in the name of God as any other fool and should be treated just like any other terrorist. What's next, burning a mosque, a catholic church, episcopalian? What?

 

[Marie2473]

Like say, there are radical on all sides and thismakes him as "bad" as the radicals on the side that he is trying to punish.
I have lived for a year in a muslim country and I can say that most of them are lovely people that do not want to hurt anyone... They would never agree with the terrorists... they are terrorists not good muslims..

 

[silcnlayc]

So, we can burn the american flag but not the muslim's bible?? Hmmm..interesting. No opinion just an observation.

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[LaurieJim]

So, we can burn the american flag but not the muslim's bible?? Hmmm..interesting. No opinion just an observation.

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I am against burning Flags but more so against burning and destroying Religious Books or any Books for that matter.

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I have read some peace passages from the quran and found it interesting, doesnt mean im a Muslim by far, i just like to read and now some radical wants to destroy someones religous books.

The Quran like the Bible can be read and taken out of context as any true Clergy will tell you. Its how we live our lives and treat other human beings that we really know about inner peace, some dont have this in them and go on to exploit both books to suit their own agandas and this is a shame upon all mankind that permits this.

Laurie

 

[chayton]

I found this quote online and they hit spot on IMO

We need to break the linkage between 9/11 and Islam. 9/11 was perpetrated by 19 murderers who hijacked American and United Airlines planes to commit their crimes and hijacked Islam to justify their crimes. 9/11 was not the fault of Islam any more than it was the fault of United Airlines.

 

[Kenny Lingus]

I think that anyone can burn whatever they want, as long as they own it.

I also think that the minister involved is an idiot.

But I think the real problem is that the media has given this fool exactly what he wants - publicity.

Let's let this chump fade back into the oblivion of his unenlightened beliefs, never to be heard from again.....

 

[chayton]

I think the real problem is that the media has given this fool exactly what he wants - publicity.

Totally agree!

 

[Mavin1]

This is what's wrong with man made conditioning of religiosity, it only creates prejudices that hold people back spiritually. Making people think, well if you're not baptist you're a heathern and so on. In faith, without the religion teachings, one learns that we are all brothers and sisters the world over. All peoples are precious and beautiful when you are not looking at them through the politics and bullcrap of their leaders.
The leaders do not reflect the people to us, no more than ours leaders reflect us to them. They have created misunderstandings, distrust, prejudices and fear to keep us ever suspicious of people we don't know.
I think the world would be a much sweeter place if the mentally disturbed that are running and ruining everything would just step off.

Attacking other cultures is no different than what the KKK does.

 

[just play]

I think the world would be a much sweeter place if the mentally disturbed that are running and ruining everything would just step off.

I'm mentally disturbed.

 

[Mavin1]

I'm mentally disturbed.

Yes dear, but you're not the mentally disturbed that's in control.

 

[just play]

How do you know?


*scary music comes on*....................................


Do do do do do do do do

 

[felicie]

I'm mentally disturbed.

Me too I guess. I hear that music all the time. LOL

Laurie if everyone had the same respect that you have for individual freedoms which of course includes spiritual, the world would be a much better place to live.
But they don't and with people like that guy making headline news it's no wonder.
You know what? the hell with how the media treats politics. We should go after them for portraying us (Americans) as a bunch of book burning ignorant racist boobs to the rest of the world.
Don't mean to derail here but money isn't the root of all evil, the media is.

 

[chayton]

...money isn't the root of all evil, the media is.

Quote of the day!

 

[kauphy]

o.k i was trying to find the right words about how i feel about all of this.

and i came by this these r not my words but i feel what was said here is the right way to look at all of this.

again not my words but i agree.

What is wrong with us? It’s just like the Ground Zero mosque plan. Does this church have the right? Yes. Should they? No. And not because of the potential backlash or violence. Simply because it is wrong. The more I reflect on what happened on 8/28 the more I realize the amazing power of GOOD.

We must be the better person. We must be bigger than our problems. Bigger than the times in which we live. Burning the Koran is like burning the flag or the Bible. You can do it, but whose heart will you change by doing it? You will only harden the hearts of those who could be moved. None of those who are thinking about killing us will be affected, but our good Muslim friends and neighbors will be saddened. It makes the battle that they face inside their own communities even harder.

Let us rise above the current levels and elevate ourselves and our country. The only thing this act would prove is that you CAN burn a Koran. I didn’t know America was in doubt on that fact. Let’s prove to each other that while there are many things we can do, there are maybe many more things that we choose not to do.

 

[jetset]

The flip side of the media coin is that the Fourth Estate also performs a critical duty to society in exposing corruption both within and outside governments and the flaws of our political, religious, sports and business movers and shakers.

It's never a good idea to place anyone on too high a pedestal, which tends to breed arrogance, imv, and the media helps to keep 'em in line as well as building 'em up.

I would venture to suggest that politicians fear the media more than their voters, because the one keeps the other informed and can influence opinions.

Unfortunately, bad news tends to be seized upon more than good news, but then the media has an obligation (that is not always fulfilled properly) to present both, supposedly motivated by the theory that it is the vehicle that provides readers with balanced information that enables them to draw their own conclusions and make their own decisions.

Regrettably, media is not always even handed in presenting its information, as we have seen in microcosm here in the forum in accusations that this or that publication/program is "liberal" or "conservative" in its approach. So we have to use our intellect to sort the wheat from the chaff...or the news that best gels with our personal view of the world?

The other thing that I find worrying is the rise of tabloid sensationalism and cheque book journalism, presenting all manner of weird, provocative and distasteful personal stories on so-called celebrities and publicity seekers. But there's clearly a ready market for this sort of trash as entertainment reading - perhaps as much of a reflection on readers as the media itself?

I happen to agree that the nutcase in Florida and his incendiary ideas in every sense of the word has been given far too much mileage by the media...perhaps in the same way that the media highlighted the insensitivity of a Muslim presence near Ground Zero, bearing in mind that the killers involved in 9/11 professed to be ardent followers of Islam.

 

[felicie]

50 years ago there was a big white Congregational Church mom dragged us to every Sunday and by the hair sometimes I might add and I didn't really mind going every week until one of the other kids told me my dad was going to hell because he smoked a cigarette in the parking lot before and after the sermon. But that's not where I was going with this oops. So up until about 5 years ago, the same church stood on the same corner and I drove by every now and then and then one day I went by and there was this huge goldish yellow building (street sign yellow) standing there and I almost ran off the road. long story short, it was now a Mosque and it was such an odd feeling. I just can't imagine what it would feel like to have lost someone dear to me in such a senseless way by any group of individuals only to have to be reminded of who did it every day instead of who I lost.

 

[Mavin1]

Don't know if any of you listen to The Edge with Daniel Ott, but this is a good show regarding 9/11 and it's aftermath.

September 11th, 2010

Stephen Michael Schroeder

9/11 and the Ground Zero Mosque



Warning: This interview may set your computer on fire!

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I see it this way, first off, the burning of a pile of Korans would have went viral on the net anyway so it was a good thing the media covered it.

Secondly, it is going to be used as a recruitment tool either way. Burn them and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, don't burn them and the radicals will promote it as a win against our freedom. So ultimately, it came down to protecting the troops.

The same rationale can be applied to the mosque. Built it and the radicals will promote it as a trophy, don't built it and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, which is worse, let the radicals believe they have a trophy or put the troops in harms way.

Ironically, we see news clips of the burning of the American flag and hear chants of "Death to America".

imo, we've become way tolerent of other cultures and always seem to have to put ours aside and this is one of the reasons why we feel America is going down hill.

 

[LaurieJim]

I see it this way, first off, the burning of a pile of Korans would have went viral on the net anyway so it was a good thing the media covered it.

Secondly, it is going to be used as a recruitment tool either way. Burn them and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, don't burn them and the radicals will promote it as a win against our freedom. So ultimately, it came down to protecting the troops.

The same rationale can be applied to the mosque. Built it and the radicals will promote it as a trophy, don't built it and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, which is worse, let the radicals believe they have a trophy or put the troops in harms way.

Ironically, we see news clips of the burning of the American flag and hear chants of "Death to America".

imo, we've become way tolerent of other cultures and always seem to have to put ours aside and this is one of the reasons why we feel America is going down hill.

I still feel that this is great nation and we will pull out of this economic crisis among others, we have been tolerent of other cultures but thats what founded America, her different cultures, one big melting pot of many peoples.

We enjoy many freedoms that we take for granted. If i walked out my front door right now and took down my flag and started to burn it, would the law come and haul me away?

Yes they would but not for burning the flag but for not getting a burn permit, i would never do that for anything as i love this country, her goodness and tolerents as they far outweigh the bad.

This was on my local news last night and just has me upset with those that will use faith to destroy anothers, im sure God will have him reflect on this during his judgement day.

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Laurie

 

[chayton]

I'm mentally disturbed.

I totally agree with this too!

 

[Rhyzz]

Religion is the cause of all wars. I won't single out Islam but anyone who is prepared to kill someone you can see and who thinks, has feelings and a family for something that they have been taught from a book and has absolutely no evidence of it's existence is quite simply an idiot.

There's a big debate in the UK at the moment about why religious schools get government funding when they are basically teaching lies. Evolution is scientific fact so why are they so special to receive funding and non-religious schools not?

 

[jetset]

There is much truth in that, but imo it's the bastards that manipulate religion to their own ends rather than religion per se that is the cause.

Most of today's religions started out with a lot of good, well-intentioned and peaceful principles, perhaps with some hell fire and brimstone thrown in to keep everyone behind the line drawn by .... other people who are in charge.

But inevitably the faith of the many is corrupted by the machinations of the few, leading to the many outrages in the name of religion that litter history.

That said, religion just hasn't been able to keep up with the times and the vast leaps in technological progress that have occurred over the past century. The concept of unquestioning faith and blind obedience has consequently (and to my mind rightly) taken a back seat to a more informed and curious approach.

 

[Simmo!]

Religion is the cause of all wars.

I used to think that but now I disagree. Many of the people who cause wars use that as a convenient smokescreen. Hitler as one example wanted power first and foremost.

OT this idiot who wants to burn the Koran is trying to make a statement but he's too tunnel-visioned to see that he's putting the lives of others at risk to get his point over. He has a responsibily to act, well, responsibly. So do the media in my eyes but unfortunately it's more about shifting units than it is about responsibility. No doubt the gutter press would retort that while people are still sad enough to lap it up they are only serving the public interest.

It beats me why some elements of the media can't take something like this and use it to demonstrate just why it's so wrong rather than just sensationalise it and cause a stir.

Like Jetset suggests, the media are too powerful. IMO there need to be tighter controls, not so much on what they report but in their responsibilities in the way they report it.

Must be a proud feeling for a hack at the end of his/her days to look back and reminisce that their contribution to society was to help destroy the lives and careers of other people. A proud moment I'm sure. But one which I am sure they will be able to justify to themselves.

 

[jetset]

Muzzling (or subjecting the press to restraints, if you will) can be a slippery slope, mainly because the folks controlling such restraints can abuse that sort of scary power.

If that happens, one of the public's most powerful levellers and sources of information could be rendered weak or perhaps completely lame, leaving governments and others to conceal whatever they want to conceal and manipulate information through state or other agencies.

Can you imagine a society in which there is no free press examining and questioning the acts of the powerful, and what excesses of authoritarianism that could lead to? We've had examples this century if you look at National Socialism and Communism, to name just two.

I prefer the open market system where newspapers face competition from rivals or other forms of media that might have a different 'editorial policy', thus introducing some balance to stories. That and respect for the Constitution even when that doesn't always suit our personal views.

And of course the availablity of an independent judiciary and the right to recourse under the laws of defamation.

This is an extremely sensitive subject in my country at the moment, where a ruling party has an overwhelmingly large majority and the arrogance and corruption that goes with it.

It has been feeling the glare of the media spotlight on almost daily reports of government inefficiency, wastefulness, nepotism, crime or corruption and its knee jerk reaction is to seek to impose controls on media that is making its life so uncomfortable.

I cannot overemphasise how dangerous this course can be, even where sections of the media have gone too far and abused the freedom they are guaranteed under truly democratic constitutions.

 

[Simmo!]

Thats fair enough but the main area of controversy is when subjective opinion leads the article. The BBC manage by and large to report matters without bias whereas the tabloids here use phrasology that clearly steers the reader in a particular direction. That's the sort of thing I was referring too.

 

[jetset]

As with most human endeavours and controversies, there's always the danger of adopting a 'one size fits all' condemnation, whereas the media is obviously comprised of complicated and widely diverse elements and a range of levels in respect of size, readership, expertise, accuracy, respect, politics and ownership.

I couldn't agree more with you on tabloids, which may make for entertaining reading but can hardly be put on the same plane as major dailies or the business press when it comes to journalistic discipline and a conscientious approach to editing.

It would be a pity to throw the baby out with the regulatory bathwater imv.

 

[love2winalot]

Article on N Korea.

In the 1992 constitution, Article 68 grants freedom of religious belief and guarantees the right to construct buildings for religious use and religious ceremonies. The article also states, however, that "No one may use religion as a means by which to drag in foreign powers or to destroy the state or social order." North Korea has been represented at international religious conferences by state-sponsored religious organizations such as the Korean Buddhists' Federation, the Korean Christian Federation, and the Ch'ndogyo Youth Party.

Despite these official religions, much more attention is paid to the personalities of the deceased "Great Leader" Kim Il-sung and today's "Dear Leader", his son Kim Jong-il. Their portraits are omnipresent in streets, schools, public buildings and all private homes. The ideological statements and scriptures produced by the two leaders are the main basis of education for both children and adults.[citation needed] The story of the Kims' descent is surrounded with mythology. Children in schools are taught that they came down from heaven, and were placed on the top of Mount Paektu, where they were transformed into human beings. At public events, songs are sung that depict the leaders as saviours of the country as well as of each individual citizen.[citation needed]

This cult of personality, together with the doctrine of juche (self-reliance), has resulted in a deliberate replacement of the religions that flourished in the North before the rise of stalinism.

If people were to say they were going to Burn Copies of these books, No one would say a thing...........

99% of the worlds religion, ie the people, is based on, "Where and what part of the world were you born in"? You know, your birth, the thing you had no choice in......................

It is just funny, because almost everyone who says they believe in God, also believes in Satan. if you ask them, "Who, either their churches view, or their own view, Who is Saten"? They used to have an answer, now they don't, or they just refuse to say, as it is no longer the political correct thing to do. I mean, what do you expect? if you say, "insert anything you want here" is Saten, what do you expect Saten to do? Nothing?

This whole thing just proves that there really is no such thing as, "seperation of Church & State". They might show you the Divorce certificate, but they are still living together.

 

[footdr]

I too am against burning any religious document....

but it is not against the law, just as building a Mos. or church is not against the law.

It is a freedom provided by our Constitution. You can't be against some Constitutional rights and not others.

 

[felicie]

As usual the media doesn't give the real story more like a Hollywood movie 'loosely based on the book' as they say or in this case the truth. I've seen that we are horrible people that refuse a kind gesture from ....? yes what islamic country has ever agreed or supported the U.S. in any situation? What we've gotten from them is hate for ruining their youth and culture with our western ways and religions. I've also read that we are totally complacent and could care less about the whole thing. Ha! I'll bet my next win that if they build that mosque thats what will be burning. New Yorker's are not complacent and neither are the rest of us.

 

[footdr]

Are President refuses to back the constitution

He calls the Reverend about burning the k(c)ran. But no push back on the mosque?

This is how inexperienced he is and why he should not be governing our Country. I don't care what color he is, he didn't have the experience to be in charge. Good lord, he has never had a job other than community organizing..

I wasn't happy with the republican candidate for President but even he had more experience and knowlege to govern then Obama did.

 

[Rhyzz]

Building a Mosque at ground zero is a joke and you can guarantee it will be burnt down within a week of being opened.

People won't stand for it anymore, religion is more powerful than human rights these days.

 

[slotplayer]

He calls the Reverend about burning the k(c)ran. But no push back on the mosque?

This is how inexperienced he is and why he should not be governing our Country. I don't care what color he is, he didn't have the experience to be in charge. Good lord, he has never had a job other than community organizing..

I wasn't happy with the republican candidate for President but even he had more experience and knowlege to govern then Obama did.

I don't think he called him up on the phone, just said it publically. he had to as it would have put the troops in harms way. When a 4 star general says it will hurt the troops the president must act.

the mosque thing is still on going so he may say something yet. Especially with the recent developments.

Senators seldom get elected president. Who was the last Senator to be elected president, and no googling it.

 

[felicie]

Google didn't know. He may be inexperienced but he has a plan. imo.
Lyndon Johnson?

 

[slotplayer]

Google didn't know. He may be inexperienced but he has a plan. imo.
Lyndon Johnson?

Good guess,

but I meant while they were a US senate.

John F. Kennedy

 

[LaurieJim]

Governors always make the better Presidents, they know how to balance a tight budget, maintain the National Gaurd and such imo.

The others, well alot of them on both sides have been corrupted by the Washington DC good ole boy network and there are very few that I would trust to be our President.

Mr Obama our current President has under his belt, just shy of a 4 year term as a Jr. US Senator from Illinois, this is what bothers me the most, lack of Political hands on leadership and that doesnt mean a community organizer or lawyer for Acorn.




Laurie

 

[Seventh777]

Could open up a huge can of worms here, but i`ll refrain, draw your own conclusions...............



As Bin Laden quoted on 16/09/2001 via Qatar’s Al Jazeera satellite channel, whilst speaking of his complete denial of 9/11, `"We are against the American system but not the American people. Islam does not allow killing of innocent people, men, women and children even in the event of war."

I`ve been researching 9/11 and 7/7/95 for many years, and with it the so called radical religious terrorists, Americans have more chance of dying by lightning than a terrorist attack, believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

Who are the real terrorists?, Google Depleted Uranium.

 

[jelsmith]

Religion kills more people than any single thing I can think of.

 

[felicie]

Religion kills more people than any single thing I can think of.

You mean people kill, in the name of religion don't you jel? like bin laden and plenty more before him since time began? He doesn't hate us, just our way of life; yeah and I don't hate him I just hate the way he deals with his every day problems.

 

[Seventh777]

He doesn't hate us, just our way of life; yeah and I don't hate him I just hate the way he deals with his every day problems.

Like this guy?...........

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So, he watched the 1st plane hit WTC1 the North Tower in the corridor at the school, the two major facts here are....... There is only one video footage of the 1st impact (Naudet brothers), and this wasn`t released until 11 hours after. The place Bush said he watched the T.V. in the school had no T.V. there, and never has.

Food for thought.... F.B.I.`s most wanted website regarding 9/11, Bin Laden was not even indicted for 9/11 due to there being no evidence whatsoever against him, the same evidence asked for by the Taliban when NATO came knocking on Afghanistan`s door (due to the declaration of war papers signed by Bush 2 days before 9/11,

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) requesting Bin Laden, `Show us the evidence and we will hand him over`, they are still waiting until this day for it, you may want to do some research here as to the countries of origin of the so called terrorists (try the ones that are still alive and well ,

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, see how many of them were born in Afghanistan or Iraq.

P.S.

I could post 100`s upon 100`s of videos/links/Witness testimonies/Anomalies/Physics related evidence etc, etc, disproving the official story, in the same context try and find any evidence whatsoever confirming it, that does not come from a state controlled source.

 

[felicie]

You could be right and I think Obama is Osama. Prove or disprove that my friend 777

 

[Seventh777]

You could be right and I think Obama is Osama. Prove or disprove that my friend 777

Hehe, wouldn`t surprise me, it`s kinda an unwritten fact that Bin Laden is dead, even though it is strongly disputed amongst TPTB Hierarchy that Bin Laden needed constant kidney dialysis due to kidney failure, this would be virtually impossible whilst dwelling in caves somewhere.

He probably died around the time this guy became the new 9/11 mastermind behind it all - Khalid Sheik Mohammed, and after 183 waterboarding ordeals whilst behind held in the U.S. Naval base at Guantánamo Bay

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he openly admits to anything they require.

So here we have a war based on a country that is harbouring public enemy number 1 for instigating the 9/11 attacks, (with no mention of Khalid Sheik Mohammed), which in turn questions beyond belief the evidence they had in the 1st place, it was enough to declare war but had completely overlooked Khalid Sheik Mohammed as being the mastermind.

Bush stating where and how he found out about the 1st plane impact, and was horribly wrong on his assessment.

The B.B.C is the biggest gatherer of world news in the world, with archives dating back to the 50`s, they broadcasted the bulletin regarding the 3rd tower to fall that day (WTC7) 22 minutes before it actually happened, the recorded footage of this has been lost in their archives, the only news related video in their possession of millions to have ever been lost.

At least 9 of the terrorists alive and well.

I have barely scratched the surface here, need I say more.

 

[jelsmith]

You mean people kill, in the name of religion don't you jel? like bin laden and plenty more before him since time began? He doesn't hate us, just our way of life; yeah and I don't hate him I just hate the way he deals with his every day problems.

No I meant religion. Religion was created by people. It did not exist of its own until some people created it in order to keep others under their thumb and themselves in positions of power. The death toll is astounding.

 

[felicie]

Ok thanks jel. I think we're on the same page here.

 

[BBKPoker]

So, we can burn the american flag but not the muslim's bible?? Hmmm..interesting. No opinion just an observation.

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Well the flag is secular and religious books are religious so I don't really think they are directly comparable, but frankly I think if people want to resort to book burning, flag burning, bra burning, whatever, that's fine. I think its all basically freedom of expression, so they are free to burn religious texts, and I'm free to call them insensitive idiots for thinking that anyone would be persuaded to their side because of their nutty fiery symbolism.

 

[BBKPoker]

This is how inexperienced he is and why he should not be governing our Country. I don't care what color he is, he didn't have the experience to be in charge. Good lord, he has never had a job other than community organizing..

Yeah, I suppose being a senior lecturer who served as a professor of constitutional law for 12 years at the University of Chicago isn't a job

I'm sure being a state senator for 7 years doesn't count either, right?

 

[BBKPoker]

Well the flag is secular and religious books are religious so I don't really think they are directly comparable, but frankly I think if people want to resort to book burning, flag burning, bra burning, whatever, that's fine. I think its all basically freedom of expression, so they are free to burn religious texts, and I'm free to call them insensitive idiots for thinking that anyone would be persuaded to their side because of their nutty fiery symbolism.

Oh, and before anyone nitpicks this, I'm not advocating anyone should burn religious documents, I think its tasteless at best, and I would never burn one or a flag myself, but stare decisis has pretty much upheld this is free speech, so I don't think any citizen or community should have the ability to thought police/pedestal the objects they want to protect. It's either all okay or none of it is, and since some of it has been protected as okay by the Supreme Court, it all should be.

 

[slotplayer]

Freedom of speech in action.
This past Monday I went to the post office as I do most days and outside were some folks with a table set up. On each end of the table was a poster of Obama with a Hitler moustache on it.

On my way in the guy behind the table tried to summon me over. I refused and decided instead to express my right to free speech by mouthing the words f-off.

Back in June 1775, George Washington passed the very same place on his way to Cambridge to take command of the Patriot Army.

 

[footdr]

It is not right tp attack anyones religion. I was recently very disturded by O'Donnell (msnbc Last Word host) claiming that no person with half a brain believes the "Book of Revelations". He stated it was pure fiction. Well I have attended Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist and None-Denomonation Chruches and while a few have different interpretations of how it applies to "today". All agree at the time John had his "vision" and recorded it, it was a message to the Churches and People that existed at that time. Beyond that, my personal belief is that we can still learn from what the meaning of the scripture suggested then and apply it to our time.

Of coarse recently a Muslim being interviewed stated that the Quran not the Bible was written by God. Well due to much of what is written in the Quran; as I Christian, I tend to not believe it was written by the God I know. As far as the Bible, I believe the written Scripture was dictated by God to those that recorded it for all to read. It is the word of God.

Why did O'Donnell make the statements he made? I don't know. It was just upsetting to me. But one thing I have noticed is that being a Christian these days is seen as being a negative versus a positive. And, having Christian values appears to be becoming more unpropular. If you believe in the teachings of the Bible, Christians must ignore the increasing attacks and not be distracted by the attacks many are making on Christian beliefs and what is seen as bering moral conduct. It is ok to disagree with what we see as wrong in the eyes of God. Attacking Christian values has occurred through history and I am sure it won't be the last time it happens.

 

[LaurieJim]

It is not right tp attack anyones religion. I was recently very disturded by O'Donnell (msnbc Last Word host) claiming that no person with half a brain believes the "Book of Revelations". He stated it was pure fiction. Well I have attended Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic, Methodist and None-Denomonation Chruches and while a few have different interpretations of how it applies to "today". All agree at the time John had his "vision" and recorded it, it was a message to the Churches and People that existed at that time. Beyond that, my personal belief is that we can still learn from what the meaning of the scripture suggested then and apply it to our time.

Of coarse recently a Muslim being interviewed stated that the Quran not the Bible was written by God. Well due to much of what is written in the Quran; as I Christian, I tend to not believe it was written by the God I know. As far as the Bible, I believe the written Scripture was dictated by God to those that recorded it for all to read. It is the word of God.

Why did O'Donnell make the statements he made? I don't know. It was just upsetting to me. But one thing I have noticed is that being a Christian these days is seen as being a negative versus a positive. And, having Christian values appears to be becoming more unpropular. If you believe in the teachings of the Bible, Christians must ignore the increasing attacks and not be distracted by the attacks many are making on Christian beliefs and what is seen as bering moral conduct. It is ok to disagree with what we see as wrong in the eyes of God. Attacking Christian values has occurred through history and I am sure it won't be the last time it happens.

I so agree with you, just wish others would show the same respect that most Christians show others, gives a new meaning to "Turn the other cheek".

The ones that say they are doing these things in the name of faith are not what I would call true Christians or human beings for that matter.

Laurie