1. By continuing to use the site, you agree to the use of cookies .This website or its third-party tools use cookies, which are necessary to its functioning and required to achieve the purposes illustrated in the cookie policy.Find out more.
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Follow Casinomeister on Twitter | Facebook | YouTube | Casinomeister.us US Residents Click here! |  Svenska Svenska | 
Dismiss Notice
REGISTER NOW!! Why? Because you can't do diddly squat without having been registered!

At the moment you have limited access to view most discussions: you can't make contact with thousands of fellow players, affiliates, casino reps, and all sorts of other riff-raff.

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join Casinomeister here!

This Is Just So Wrong

Discussion in 'Political Rants' started by GGW Laurie, Sep 9, 2010.

    Sep 9, 2010
  1. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!
    You must register/login in order to see the link.


    I may not agree with Mr. Obama all the time but i do support him on this. We have many freedoms and one of those is freedom of worship.

    Any person who believes that the burning of the Quran is justified in the name of religion is just blindly stupid with radical and racial ideas imo.

    The true Quran teaches of love and forgivness just as our own Bible does , this is just maddening that someone who says they love the Lord would do such a thing, its blasphemy in my humble opinion.

    There will always be radicals on both sides and this will never end, sad to say. I hope this pastor looks deep into his heart and reflects on what the true meaning of calling ones self a true Christian is all about.


    Laurie
     
    8 people like this.
  2. Sep 9, 2010
  3. anniemac

    anniemac Ueber Meister MM PABnoaccred

    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Texas, USA
    Well, LaurieJim, we agree on this.

    This guy is a nut and just as bad as the terrorists that plague our country and others.

    Nuts like this guy are just a likely to kill in the name of God as any other fool and should be treated just like any other terrorist. What's next, burning a mosque, a catholic church, episcopalian? What?
     
    2 people like this.
  4. Sep 9, 2010
  5. Marie2473

    Marie2473 Senior Member

    Occupation:
    Operator
    Location:
    Sweden
    Like say, there are radical on all sides and thismakes him as "bad" as the radicals on the side that he is trying to punish.
    I have lived for a year in a muslim country and I can say that most of them are lovely people that do not want to hurt anyone... They would never agree with the terrorists... they are terrorists not good muslims..
     
    3 people like this.
  6. Sep 9, 2010
  7. silcnlayc

    silcnlayc Just one more spin pleez! CAG MM PABnonaccred PABaccred

    Occupation:
    IT Director of Operations
    Location:
    Left Hungary
    So, we can burn the american flag but not the muslim's bible?? Hmmm..interesting. No opinion just an observation.

    .
     
    2 people like this.
  8. Sep 9, 2010
  9. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!

    I am against burning Flags but more so against burning and destroying Religious Books or any Books for that matter.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.


    I have read some peace passages from the quran and found it interesting, doesnt mean im a Muslim by far, i just like to read and now some radical wants to destroy someones religous books.

    The Quran like the Bible can be read and taken out of context as any true Clergy will tell you. Its how we live our lives and treat other human beings that we really know about inner peace, some dont have this in them and go on to exploit both books to suit their own agandas and this is a shame upon all mankind that permits this.

    Laurie
     
    1 person likes this.
  10. Sep 9, 2010
  11. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    I found this quote online and they hit spot on IMO

     
    8 people like this.
  12. Sep 9, 2010
  13. Kenny Lingus

    Kenny Lingus Tard Counter

    Occupation:
    Mortgage Industry
    Location:
    Near Chicago, Illinois
    I think that anyone can burn whatever they want, as long as they own it.

    I also think that the minister involved is an idiot.

    But I think the real problem is that the media has given this fool exactly what he wants - publicity.

    Let's let this chump fade back into the oblivion of his unenlightened beliefs, never to be heard from again.....
     
    9 people like this.
  14. Sep 9, 2010
  15. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    Totally agree!
     
    1 person likes this.
  16. Sep 10, 2010
  17. Mavin1

    Mavin1 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Caregiver/homemaker
    Location:
    Arizona
    This is what's wrong with man made conditioning of religiosity, it only creates prejudices that hold people back spiritually. Making people think, well if you're not baptist you're a heathern and so on. In faith, without the religion teachings, one learns that we are all brothers and sisters the world over. All peoples are precious and beautiful when you are not looking at them through the politics and bullcrap of their leaders.
    The leaders do not reflect the people to us, no more than ours leaders reflect us to them. They have created misunderstandings, distrust, prejudices and fear to keep us ever suspicious of people we don't know.
    I think the world would be a much sweeter place if the mentally disturbed that are running and ruining everything would just step off.

    Attacking other cultures is no different than what the KKK does.
     
    4 people like this.
  18. Sep 10, 2010
  19. just play

    just play closed account

    Occupation:
    Director of Home Operations
    Location:
    USA
    :lolup::lolup::lolup:


    I'm mentally disturbed. :D
     
  20. Sep 10, 2010
  21. Mavin1

    Mavin1 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Caregiver/homemaker
    Location:
    Arizona
    Yes dear, but you're not the mentally disturbed that's in control. ;)
     
  22. Sep 10, 2010
  23. just play

    just play closed account

    Occupation:
    Director of Home Operations
    Location:
    USA
    How do you know?


    *scary music comes on*....................................


    Do do do do do do do do
     
  24. Sep 11, 2010
  25. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    somewhere else

    Me too I guess. I hear that music all the time. LOL

    Laurie if everyone had the same respect that you have for individual freedoms which of course includes spiritual, the world would be a much better place to live.;)
    But they don't and with people like that guy making headline news it's no wonder.
    You know what? the hell with how the media treats politics. We should go after them for portraying us (Americans) as a bunch of book burning ignorant racist boobs to the rest of the world.
    Don't mean to derail here but money isn't the root of all evil, the media is.
     
    6 people like this.
  26. Sep 11, 2010
  27. chayton

    chayton aka LooHoo CAG PABnonaccred webmeister

    Occupation:
    Freelance Designer
    Location:
    Edmonton Canada
    Quote of the day! :thumbsup:
     
  28. Sep 11, 2010
  29. kauphy

    kauphy Meister Member

    Occupation:
    mom
    Location:
    az
    o.k i was trying to find the right words about how i feel about all of this.

    and i came by this these r not my words but i feel what was said here is the right way to look at all of this.

    again not my words but i agree.

    What is wrong with us? It’s just like the Ground Zero mosque plan. Does this church have the right? Yes. Should they? No. And not because of the potential backlash or violence. Simply because it is wrong. The more I reflect on what happened on 8/28 the more I realize the amazing power of GOOD.

    We must be the better person. We must be bigger than our problems. Bigger than the times in which we live. Burning the Koran is like burning the flag or the Bible. You can do it, but whose heart will you change by doing it? You will only harden the hearts of those who could be moved. None of those who are thinking about killing us will be affected, but our good Muslim friends and neighbors will be saddened. It makes the battle that they face inside their own communities even harder.

    Let us rise above the current levels and elevate ourselves and our country. The only thing this act would prove is that you CAN burn a Koran. I didn’t know America was in doubt on that fact. Let’s prove to each other that while there are many things we can do, there are maybe many more things that we choose not to do.
     
    4 people like this.
  30. Sep 11, 2010
  31. jetset

    jetset Ueber Meister CAG

    Occupation:
    Senior Partner, InfoPowa News Service
    Location:
    Earth
    The flip side of the media coin is that the Fourth Estate also performs a critical duty to society in exposing corruption both within and outside governments and the flaws of our political, religious, sports and business movers and shakers.

    It's never a good idea to place anyone on too high a pedestal, which tends to breed arrogance, imv, and the media helps to keep 'em in line as well as building 'em up.

    I would venture to suggest that politicians fear the media more than their voters, because the one keeps the other informed and can influence opinions.

    Unfortunately, bad news tends to be seized upon more than good news, but then the media has an obligation (that is not always fulfilled properly) to present both, supposedly motivated by the theory that it is the vehicle that provides readers with balanced information that enables them to draw their own conclusions and make their own decisions.

    Regrettably, media is not always even handed in presenting its information, as we have seen in microcosm here in the forum in accusations that this or that publication/program is "liberal" or "conservative" in its approach. So we have to use our intellect to sort the wheat from the chaff...or the news that best gels with our personal view of the world?

    The other thing that I find worrying is the rise of tabloid sensationalism and cheque book journalism, presenting all manner of weird, provocative and distasteful personal stories on so-called celebrities and publicity seekers. But there's clearly a ready market for this sort of trash as entertainment reading - perhaps as much of a reflection on readers as the media itself?

    I happen to agree that the nutcase in Florida and his incendiary ideas in every sense of the word has been given far too much mileage by the media...perhaps in the same way that the media highlighted the insensitivity of a Muslim presence near Ground Zero, bearing in mind that the killers involved in 9/11 professed to be ardent followers of Islam.
     
    3 people like this.
  32. Sep 12, 2010
  33. felicie

    felicie Ueber Meister PABnononaccred

    Occupation:
    self employed
    Location:
    somewhere else
    50 years ago there was a big white Congregational Church mom dragged us to every Sunday and by the hair sometimes I might add and I didn't really mind going every week until one of the other kids told me my dad was going to hell because he smoked a cigarette in the parking lot before and after the sermon. But that's not where I was going with this oops. So up until about 5 years ago, the same church stood on the same corner and I drove by every now and then and then one day I went by and there was this huge goldish yellow building (street sign yellow) standing there and I almost ran off the road. long story short, it was now a Mosque and it was such an odd feeling. I just can't imagine what it would feel like to have lost someone dear to me in such a senseless way by any group of individuals only to have to be reminded of who did it every day instead of who I lost.:(
     
    1 person likes this.
  34. Sep 12, 2010
  35. Mavin1

    Mavin1 Dormant account

    Occupation:
    Caregiver/homemaker
    Location:
    Arizona
    Don't know if any of you listen to The Edge with Daniel Ott, but this is a good show regarding 9/11 and it's aftermath.

    September 11th, 2010

    Stephen Michael Schroeder

    9/11 and the Ground Zero Mosque



    Warning: This interview may set your computer on fire!


    You must register/login in order to see the link.
     
  36. Sep 12, 2010
  37. slotplayer

    slotplayer Senior Member webmeister

    Occupation:
    webmaster
    Location:
    USA
    I see it this way, first off, the burning of a pile of Korans would have went viral on the net anyway so it was a good thing the media covered it.

    Secondly, it is going to be used as a recruitment tool either way. Burn them and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, don't burn them and the radicals will promote it as a win against our freedom. So ultimately, it came down to protecting the troops.

    The same rationale can be applied to the mosque. Built it and the radicals will promote it as a trophy, don't built it and the radicals will promote it as a sign of disrespect, which is worse, let the radicals believe they have a trophy or put the troops in harms way.

    Ironically, we see news clips of the burning of the American flag and hear chants of "Death to America".

    imo, we've become way tolerent of other cultures and always seem to have to put ours aside and this is one of the reasons why we feel America is going down hill.
     
    2 people like this.
  38. Sep 12, 2010
  39. GGW Laurie

    GGW Laurie Dormant account webmeister

    Occupation:
    Self Employed
    Location:
    In the Beautiful South !!

    I still feel that this is great nation and we will pull out of this economic crisis among others, we have been tolerent of other cultures but thats what founded America, her different cultures, one big melting pot of many peoples.

    We enjoy many freedoms that we take for granted. If i walked out my front door right now and took down my flag and started to burn it, would the law come and haul me away?

    Yes they would but not for burning the flag but for not getting a burn permit, i would never do that for anything as i love this country, her goodness and tolerents as they far outweigh the bad.

    This was on my local news last night and just has me upset with those that will use faith to destroy anothers, im sure God will have him reflect on this during his judgement day.

    You must register/login in order to see the link.


    Laurie
     

Share This Page