This an April fools joke today at Tradition-Casino Get $1.00 free

[BingoT]

This an April fools joke today at Tradition-Casino
And April is in a few months.
Thanks for the laugh today Tradition-Casino
~T~
Can you spare the change

***Happy Coin***
Claim this promotion
Get $1.00 FREE (no deposit necessary)
Get $1.00 free. If you meet the playthrough and minimum cashout requirements, you may be required to make a small deposit in order to verify your account information. No additional wagering will apply. The small deposit does not apply to any minimum cashout requirements.

Maximum 1 bonus per household/computer/person. Minimum deposit required to withdraw (for fraud prevention)
99x bonus playthrough ($99)
Playthrough is the amount that must be wagered (put at risk) before you may cashout.

Unless otherwise stated, 1 credit wagered in a game counts as 1 credit toward playthrough requirements. Play at the following games, and any variants, does not count towards playthrough requirements and winnings may be considered null and void: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive.
Bonus money is not withdrawable. The bonus will be deducted from your next withdrawal.
If your balance is less than the amount of the bonus you will not be able to withdraw.
25x minimum cashout
You may only cashout amounts greater than your deposit plus 25 times the bonus. For example, if you deposit $100 and receive a $100 bonus with a 1x cashout, you may cashout any amount greater than $200. Additional deposits, reversals, bonuses or comp point redemptions do not count towards this minimum cashout restriction.

The maximum you may withdraw is 30
A maximum cashout applies. For example, if you receive a $10 bonus and the maximum cashout is 10x the bonus your maximum cashout is $100. Any balance remaining after your cashout will be removed from your account.

Any funds over the maximum cashable amount will be removed automatically on cashout.
The following games and any variants may have different table limits while this promotion is active: Roulette, Blackjack, Sicbo, RedDog, Baccarat, Keno, PaiGow, War, ThreeCard, LetItRide, Videopoker, Craps, DoubleUp, CaribStud, ScratchCard, Slot Progressive
Your table limits may change while this promotion is active.

Valid from 2010-02-04 00:00:00 to 2013-02-04 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.

 

[coxwel]

This an April fools joke today at Tradition-Casino
And April is in a few months.
Thanks for the laugh today Tradition-Casino
~T~
Can you spare the change

i thought the same by seeing my 1 coin bonus lol.


cheers

coxwel

 

[vinylweatherman]

i thought the same by seeing my 1 coin bonus lol.


cheers

coxwel

What about the notorious "Gift Crap" promo BelleRock once ran

Those that deposited for the free spins found them credited. ONE line, ONE coin at ONE CENT!!!!!

 

[Setsuna]

I really don't see why you're complaining about a free bonus given by a casino.

Okay, it's ridiculously small , but some people will be able to win some money on it -and it's not a crappy gift that you won thanks to a stupid wagering requirement.

Free money is free money.

 

[nisosbar]

I never laugh at free money. Just think of all the times you had, like, $0.02 in your account, took a shot, ended up cashing out for $100. Has happened to me several times. Thanks, Tradition!

 

[SlotMonster]

I think this thread should be moved to "Jokes" section!

 

[chuchu59]

I am bonus-banned. Do I get the wonderful $1?

 

[De Beuker]

I am bonus-banned. Do I get the wonderful $1?

Ofcourse not! You're definately going to abuse it, just like me!

 

[winbig]

If someone were to bet the whole $1 on a single spin and win, would this be deemed bonus abuse?

 

[Popstar]

What about the notorious "Gift Crap" promo BelleRock once ran

Those that deposited for the free spins found them credited. ONE line, ONE coin at ONE CENT!!!!!

Ya know, you saying that reminds me of the Ladbrokes promo I was offered the otherday, 25 free spins on Avalon.. 25 spins, I thought, nice one! bout time I got a decent promo from Ladbrokes.. checked the t&c's, to find it was 3 lines at 1 pence per spin
Still took it though, so it did its job!

 

[binshakindown]

I saw the $1.00 chip also

and I too thought it was a joke, since when I try to claim it says "

***Happy Coin***
Promotion could not be claimed: 201
Get $1.00 FREE (no deposit necessary)
Get $1.00 free. If you meet the playthrough and minimum cashout requirements, you may be required to make a small deposit in order to verify your account information. No additional wagering will apply. The small deposit does not apply to any minimum cashout requirements........
blah blah blah but is valid from:

Valid from 2010-02-04 00:00:00 to 2013-02-04 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.



Funny funny. Does this mean I am also bonus banned? Are they trying to show me what I am missing out on?

 

[De Beuker]

and I too thought it was a joke, since when I try to claim it says "

***Happy Coin***
Promotion could not be claimed: 201
Get $1.00 FREE (no deposit necessary)
Get $1.00 free. If you meet the playthrough and minimum cashout requirements, you may be required to make a small deposit in order to verify your account information. No additional wagering will apply. The small deposit does not apply to any minimum cashout requirements........
blah blah blah but is valid from:

Valid from 2010-02-04 00:00:00 to 2013-02-04 23:59:59. Promotion may be expired by casino at any time.
The casino's general terms and conditions apply.



Funny funny. Does this mean I am also bonus banned? Are they trying to show me what I am missing out on?

No, error 201 means you claimed a free chip elswhere less than an hour before you tried to claim this one.
Just try again later and it will work.

 

[Wildfire7]

I never laugh at free money. Just think of all the times you had, like, $0.02 in your account, took a shot, ended up cashing out for $100. Has happened to me several times. Thanks, Tradition!

That argument is not really valid when taking this bonus, as the maximum cahout is 30.00. In an extreme example such as yours, that 0.02 could become 0.60 if compared on a pro rata basis.

So that is how pathetic this bonus really is. This is the kind of money you would give a small child to buy some sweeties!
IMO any bonuses should be at least equivalent to the casinos minimum deposit amount, or it is just a waste of everybodys time.

These small bonuses could become a worrying trend, as some casinos could start sneaking these into a players account without his knowledge, then use all the bonus rules against the player to block a withdrawal. It is VERY bad news.

Mike

 

[tradition]

IMO any bonuses should be at least equivalent to the casinos minimum deposit amount, or it is just a waste of everybodys time.
Mike

I have excellent news : in my casino, bonus percentage compared to deposits is 320% at this time. It means that on all my depositors database the bonus average is 324% => Example, players deposited $25 and play with $106, so they receive $81 free ( ND + match bonuses included but my calcul exclude our welcome offers 1919% / $1919 ). So, in reality, my average is even higher than 324%.

The Happy Coin bonus is a free bonus offered to all players, included to our players who never deposited. But, believe me, our depositors have minimum 1 ND bonus every week if they play in the casino + comps with multiplier up to 6.... You didn't apreciate this bonus? I'm sorry. Don't take it and please consider that i cannot guess whom will be happy with or whom will consider that it's a bad bonus. Free money is free money and permit winnings, sorry.

You have the right to laugh if you want, but i'm sure you wouldn't laugh to receive up to $200 ND if your account was eligible : because more your loyalty is, higher your ND are. I think that if you had already received $50 or $100 ND, you wouldn't criticate our funny Happy coin promotion and you'd probably send us a nice email about this bonus, as we received from so many players

Last, we have had many winners with this bonus. They won $30 but some of them won more because they requested reversal and reversal bonus on it. So, laughing about my Happy coin is exactly the same thing that if i were laughing about a player whom deposited $30. It's not a lot, right, but it's money and there is nothing funny about money...

 

[maphesto]

The Happy Coin bonus is a free bonus offered to all players, included to our players who never deposited.

I didn`t receive the happy coin. Please check my account.

User name: maphesto

If I am banned, is it because I have won more than I deposit?

 

[tradition]

No, it's because you received more bonuses than our average : your account received 400% bonus compared to your deposits. So, you're not banned from bonuses as you know but you cannot receive more ND bonuses for now. Perhaps it's time for you to make a new deposit with match bonus? As i already told, i think my bonus politic is very fair with players

 

[tradition]

And more : you winnings represent 4 times more you deposited since the beginning. So, i think that my bonus politic is clearly one of the best one that players can found in online casinos

 

[maphesto]

And more : you winnings represent 4 times more you deposited since the beginning.

I know!

That`s my kind of business.

You have now told me that your casino rather give non deposit players bonuses than you give me who have deposit?

The Happy Coin bonus is a free bonus offered to all players, included to our players who never deposited.

Where is the loyalty in that?

How much do I have to deposit and lose to be eligible for the happy coin?

Perhaps it's time for you to make a new deposit with match bonus?

I always check for the best bonus when I want to deposit and lately it hasn`t been at Tradition.

 

[winbig]

They won $30 but some of them won more because they requested reversal and reversal bonus on it.

Sorry, but I wouldn't be bragging about that....reversal bonuses are predatory, imo.

 

[tradition]

I never forced someone to play with a ND, make some winnings, make a withdraw then make a reversal with a bonus. Players are free to decide what they want to play with in my casino, they're free to take bonuses, to make some withdrawals and cancel it if they want...

Speak about reversal bonuses is not bragging from my part, it's an observation about facts wich happened with this bonus Happy coin.

 

[Wildfire7]

I have excellent news : in my casino, bonus percentage compared to deposits is 320% at this time. It means that on all my depositors database the bonus average is 324% => Example, players deposited $25 and play with $106, so they receive $81 free ( ND + match bonuses included but my calcul exclude our welcome offers 1919% / $1919 ). So, in reality, my average is even higher than 324%.

The Happy Coin bonus is a free bonus offered to all players, included to our players who never deposited. But, believe me, our depositors have minimum 1 ND bonus every week if they play in the casino + comps with multiplier up to 6.... You didn't apreciate this bonus? I'm sorry. Don't take it and please consider that i cannot guess whom will be happy with or whom will consider that it's a bad bonus. Free money is free money and permit winnings, sorry.

You have the right to laugh if you want, but i'm sure you wouldn't laugh to receive up to $200 ND if your account was eligible : because more your loyalty is, higher your ND are. I think that if you had already received $50 or $100 ND, you wouldn't criticate our funny Happy coin promotion and you'd probably send us a nice email about this bonus, as we received from so many players

Last, we have had many winners with this bonus. They won $30 but some of them won more because they requested reversal and reversal bonus on it. So, laughing about my Happy coin is exactly the same thing that if i were laughing about a player whom deposited $30. It's not a lot, right, but it's money and there is nothing funny about money...

As far as I am concerned bonus money only becomes free money when it has been wagered, cashed out and in my bank account. Until that process is completed then it is just free casino chips. The difference being that a player cannot spend these chips anywhere but in the casino.

You can dress it up as you wish, but 1 Free chip is a derisory amount, a sum so miniscule it is not worth bothering about. I fully understand your average bonus calculation, but this only tells one side of the story. It does not reflect the maximum cashout rule which acts as a brake for the casino, just in case the player might win a decent amount. The playthrough in the Happy Coin promotion of 99x is not weighted in terms of the overall value of this bonus with that 30.00 maximum cashout.

Where is the entertainment factor in a 1.00 bonus? This is a bit like been offered a free drink in a pub, but you only get a capfull of beer. Sure it is free beer but it would look a bit mean. School boys roll coins up against the wall for bigger stakes than this. Surely its only a matter of time before we see a sub 1.00 bonus.

You may think players are laughing at this particular bonus, but they certainly won't be laughing all the way to the bank. Thankfully more and more players are wising up to these bonus schemes, and seeing them for what they really are, which is fools gold.

Mike

 

[eu_lowroller]

you winnings represent 4 times more you deposited since the beginning.

And again sharing personal information from a players account!

This casino should really be in the rogue section and not only because of their ridiculous bonuses!

 

[tradition]

I share informations? Considering this, i won't reply anymore on this forum about such complaints : your bonuses are not good, blabla, etc... I understand now why most of owners prefer to not take time to reply in forum. My time is precious : so since now; i will only reply to real problems, not about "advices" on how i have to manage my bonuses or about any complaints from players not happy with bonuses they received.

 

[eu_lowroller]

i won't reply anymore on this forum about such complaints : your bonuses are not good, blabla, etc... I understand now why most of owners prefer to not take time to reply in forum.

how arrogant can you be?

i hope that everybody see all your posts and will never make any future deposits in your casino, because this is now really very childish, sorry!

 

[Wildfire7]

I share informations? Considering this, i won't reply anymore on this forum about such complaints : your bonuses are not good, blabla, etc... I understand now why most of owners prefer to not take time to reply in forum. My time is precious : so since now; i will only reply to real problems, not about "advices" on how i have to manage my bonuses or about any complaints from players not happy with bonuses they received.

I think players do appreciate any rep that comes and posts here. Your time may well be precious, but what you have to remember is players money is also precious. Your bonuses should be able to stand up to some scrutiny, but they are only opinions from loyal customers. My opinion is that your bonuses represent poor value. The 1.00 bonus is not even a bonus, it is throwing scraps out to any player who you expect to be grateful for it.

Reading many posts on this forum I notice many reps get a lot of praise worthy comments, credit where due. So I don't see it as people out to deliberately persecute you. Its just a discussion on bonuses. Be a shame to stop posting because you are not hearing what you want to hear.

Mike

 

[coxwel]

I understand now why most of owners prefer to not take time to reply in forum. My time is precious : so since now; i will only reply to real problems, not about "advices" on how i have to manage my bonuses or about any complaints from players not happy with bonuses they received.

come on this way out of the line and above arrogance.

why are you here then?

dont you think the players and members here appreciate exactly the casinos which have the balls! to be active here and post and comment.

ofcourse comments wont always be happy applause on how great tradition is.

as i once already said in another post, i have the impression you take it way too personal if players critize certain things on your casino.

imho this is far from professional. no offense here but if i read through this thread i had to say this.

and like ohers said, your bonus calculation doesnt seem correct to me. i knwo myself which casinos has been generous whatever to me. i make the calculation myself and tradition is far!from the top.

this is no negative, freeby policy is your decision. but i cant follow your explanations sometimes.




cheers

coxwel

 

[bernynhel]

If someone were to bet the whole $1 on a single spin and win, would this be deemed bonus abuse?

Good one! Really good one! :notworthy Know how many replies I've made like this before on CM? Hint: ZERO!

I have excellent news : in my casino, bonus percentage compared to deposits is 320% at this time. It means... (blah blah blah - bernynhel)... So, in reality, my average is even higher than 324%... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...You didn't apreciate this bonus? I'm sorry. Don't take it and plea... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...You have the right to laugh if you want, but i'm sure you wouldn't laugh to receive up to $2... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...I think that... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...Last, we have had many... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...with this bonus. They won... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...laughing about my Happy coin is... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...exactly the same thing that if i were laughing about a... (blah blah blah - bernynhel) ...there is nothing funny about...

blah blah blah back at ya!

I never laugh at free money. Just think of all the times you had, like, $0.02 in your account, took a shot, ended up cashing out for $100. Has happened to me several times. Thanks, Tradition!

Partypooper!

 

[Nifty29]

One of the biggest problems with your interactions here Tradition is your English. You are French and it isnt your first language, and that is totally cool and its nothing personal - but if you are to represent your business properly and be available to answer questions and concerns professionally you need to have someone proof read your posts first, or have someone else who speaks fluent English as a forum rep.

Im sorry, but a lot of what you say probably doesnt come across as you would like and can appear to be very arrogant and rude......and I say appear as from my personal interactions with you I dont think you are generally that kind of person. There are so many instances of members taking exception to your phrasing etc, and it tends to overtake the substance of your replies and, therefor, inflames the situation rather than resolving it.

As for bonuses, almost all Rival bonuses currently are a complete joke and this is why I no longer play at Rival casinos. I only play with bonuses about 25% of the time, but when I do I want reasonable WRs with NO MAX CASHOUT (everyone should go to Max's Corner here at CM and read about how BAD for the player these max cashouts are) as a reward for my loyalty i.e. my many bonus-free deposits. Fair enough if you want to place a restriction on ND bonuses, but its a load of BS to place max cashouts on deposit bonuses.

Rival Casinos are incredibly short-sighted when it comes to player loyalty. In the long term, almost every single player will be a LOSER. In the short term, there may be some players who take you to the cleaners, but you are providing games with 97% RTP or less so these players CANNOT WIN forever. Instead, by bonus-banning these players (in many instances based on their play at OTHER rival sites for crying out loud) for being in a positive position with the casino, you are p*ssing them off......and Im not sure about anyone else, but when Im P'ed off with an establishment of ANY kind I avoid it like the plague and make sure my friends know all about it.

You see, for me, its not actually about free chips or bonuses with 4xWR etc (as I said I rarely take bonuses anyway), its about feeling like my custom is appreciated - and being ineligible for promotions that even non-depositing players are able to claim is an absolute insult.

I hear the Rival reps saying 'we are losing money' or 'we cant afford to keep giving bonuses to people who are ahead' - well take a look at 32Red for example. They DO NOT have any max cashouts on deposit bonuses, they have WR of 15xDB for LOYAL players with NO game restrictions, they have FREE daily tournaments and they even have their own leaderboard here that gives away even MORE free money.....and GUESS WHAT.....they aint going BROKE are they???? Far from it -in fact, they are probably the most successful online casino EVER - and what sets them apart is that they LOOK AFTER their loyal players regardless of whether they are ahead or behind, because they know that the more bets a player makes the more likely they are to lose.

I am ahead at a couple of Rival Casinos, and hence I was bonus-banned. Want to take a guess at your % chance of ever getting that money back from me??? Instead I now spend it with 32Red etc who KNOW how to look after a player who is prepared to risk their own money on a regular basis.

Rant over.

 

[zap987]

It's just sad how greedy people are, jumping on everything the casino representative says because the free chips they are offered are too small.

So far I have seen very few bonuses with max cashouts at Tradition casino, I have many different to choose from, 120% WRx21 or 250% WRx35(phantom though) just to list a few. Just because other Rival casinos are abusing max cashouts it makes no sense to jump on Tradition.

Oh, and I took this free $1, got it up to about $10 and had fun for a few minutes before losing it.

 

[Nifty29]

It's just sad how greedy people are, jumping on everything the casino representative says because the free chips they are offered are too small.

So far I have seen very few bonuses with max cashouts at Tradition casino, I have many different to choose from, 120% WRx21 or 250% WRx35(phantom though) just to list a few. Just because other Rival casinos are abusing max cashouts it makes no sense to jump on Tradition.

Oh, and I took this free $1, got it up to about $10 and had fun for a few minutes before losing it

IMO this has nothing to do with greed (for me anyway). Im not eligible to receive ANY promos. I originally had those promos you mentioned available until the rival-wide banning program was allowed to do its work (and I say allowed because it was the operators' decision). Its great that you have them, but it will all change if you happen to have a decent win there OR at any other Rival casino. Seriously though....$1?????.....I would be insulted as my min deposit is far more than that.

The biggest mistake Tradition made is to begin using the Rival database - the minute they did that they became just another Rival white label clone with nothing more to offer than the next one. Its a shame, because previous to that it was a great place to play and the promos offered were better than other rivals. Tradition, I know you were losing money, but it was a bad move in regards to setting yourself up above the pack.......you could have tailored the promos better, or increased some WRs, etc...but once you dump a player from any promotions you most likely will never see another cent from them.

 

[KasinoKing]

As for bonuses, almost all Rival bonuses currently are a complete joke and this is why I no longer play at Rival casinos. I only play with bonuses about 25% of the time, but when I do I want reasonable WRs with NO MAX CASHOUT

I pretty much agree with everything else you said, but not this bit.
If YOU don't like max cash-out bonuses - don't take them.
Personally, if the WR is sensible I would be very happy to have such offers - and in fact I have taken a few recently.

Same with the free-chip - if a player doesn't like the WR, don't take it.
No-one is forcing players to take bonuses at any casino.
Some people like them, some people don't. So what?

KK

 

[Nifty29]

I pretty much agree with everything else you said, but not this bit.
If YOU don't like max cash-out bonuses - don't take them.
Personally, if the WR is sensible I would be very happy to have such offers - and in fact I have taken a few recently.

Same with the free-chip - if a player doesn't like the WR, don't take it.
No-one is forcing players to take bonuses at any casino.
Some people like them, some people don't. So what?

KK

Well that opinion is contrary to what Max has outlined and there is no doubt it is better for the casino than the player...but its all about opinion so thats cool.

As I said, its not about taking bonuses all the time for me....its being offered something reasonable for the times my bankroll is low as a loyalty reward, and max cashouts are unacceptable to me when Im risking my own funds....make the WR higher or whatever, but dont cap the wins. Its my opinion and always has been well before rival came along.

As for whether people like them or not - surely that is the point of offering them in the first place. Its a simple business fact that if you dont give customers (players in this case) what they expect, they will go elsewhere, which is the whole basis of what I was saying. Im not bitching because I cant get a free chip etc...Im bitching because Im being treated poorly by being completely bonus banned. Its important to me that, after Ive made many bonus-free deposits without any luck etc, to have something to give me a bit of a fighting chance with a little less risk - if they cant be ars*d to even offer me something small, then why would I want to keep playing there?

I will continue to play mostly without bonuses, but ONLY at places where my custom is valued - and there are plenty of places that do this with far better terms etc than rival and dont dump me the second Im $5 ahead. AFAIC its their loss.

 

[maphesto]

If YOU don't like max cash-out bonuses - don't take them.
Personally, if the WR is sensible I would be very happy to have such offers - and in fact I have taken a few recently.

I have also taken max cashout bonuses earlier but I don`t now. Max cashout bonuses helps the casino to raise the RTP without pay for it.

It`s also a way to insure the casino that they are not losing money on offering bonuses. A WR isn`t the same thing. Even with a WR of 50 times bonus+deposit you are able to cashout a lot.

I don`t want to support that kind of behaviour.

As said before, the really serious casinos doesn`t have to do like this.

There are several ways for a casino to get more customers, the easiest way is to offer "better and better" bonuses. To get insure to win in the end the casinos:

*put time limits on bonuses
*have max cashouts(as low as twice the deposit)
*bonus ban players who has won in the past
*bonus ban countries(!)
*have WR that is almost impossible to fix
*restricted games and strange rules about them, it would be easy to make the software stop betting on those game during a limited bonus

The max cashout rule has been to popular lately, to make those bonuses disappear among honest casinos we have to show the casino that we are not using it.

The best way for a casino to get popularity in the end is to be honest, quick withdrawals, other extra fun things like tournaments, pleasant support staff and smart casino reps on different forums.

 

[jroller]

laughable bonuses

i've definitely seen my share of horrible promo offers. i remember unibet once gave my 3 credits for depositing 3.. this wasn't a joke, it had everything about it as a normal bonus. why not just offer 3? no one with their head on right will dep 3 to get 3.