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kakata

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Okay here I am.
All started with a heads up I sent to 3dice about their comp point stealing sistem .
I did noticed more than once but I let it go cause I would always received comps everytime, which were more than the "stolen" comps.
The problem was,untill today, that Ive never fkkin won on the thosands of comps Ive received...NOT ONCE....Im talking about 1000s not 20/40/100.
Not to forget that Ive had ,only in the last couple weeks, something like 700 free spins...which paid shit all the time.
Thats why they give it away so easily...you will never fkkin win on em.
What makes me fuming is the attitude they have....THEY think they are always fukkin right.
No you are not.you r alive because of our money....(forget about mine now)

You might be, to the eyes of those few IDIOTS/RETARD that do compliment you whatever you do, also if you shit on their had...they are simply happy cause that was Enzo's shit....but thats not me.Did you undearsteand it?

If your system makes mistakes on comps it does on everything else....and do not come with the "percentage" bullshit you've always given to those who do want to believe it.

First of all those percentage of your are exactly that "yours".
Now lets have look at the explanation Ive been given.

Starting from down going up:


Hi, giovanni



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ReplyReply AllMove... Flag this messageRe: [Ticket#2010063010000029] wagering on the last depositThursday, July 1, 2010 10:02 AMFrom: "3Dice Support" <SupportTeam@3Dice.com>View contact detailsTo: "gianni" <gianni2711@yahoo.com>Hi Giani,

There is no mistake in the way the comp points add I can assure you of that ,
I have looked into it myself and doubled checked everything .

As for the time on the server , it is indeed listed a bit unusual .

Its actually a mistake I made listing it manually , but its not wrong by any
means (i.e; 22:6 was replaced with 22:60, 22:7:26 was replaced with 22:70:26
etc ) .

However the starting balance , peak balance , end balance and the number of
game rounds are correct .


Kind regards,
Anna


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gianni <gianni2711@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Anna.
>
> Check the time stamp on line 4-25-26-27-28-29.
>
> Something is completely wrong.
>
> line 4 says 21:60:36 it cant be...it would be 22:00:36.(in no watch in the
> world you can have 21:60:36)
> on the other lines, 25-26 and so on, there are similar mistakes.
>
> For instance: on line 25 time stamp says 22:60:27 ??
> on line 26 22:70:26 ??
> on line 27 22:90:38 ??
> than on line 28 the time stamp goes back to 22:22:70
> and on line 29 time goes back again at 22:22:30 ????
>
> This kind of time stamping are wrong.
>
> It does NOT exist a time like 22:90:38...it would be 23:30:38....every 60
> minutes the hour turns to the next one.
>
> Same as seconds.... after 60 seconds it should turn to the next minute and on
> line 28 your time stamp says 70 seconds.
>
> Please check...cause Im telling you...something is not quite right.
> As you might remember,this is not the first time I noticed it.
>
> While its not a lot of money and Ive been given free chips in numerous
> occasions...there is a mistake.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Giovanni
>
> --- On Thu, 7/1/10, 3Dice Support <SupportTeam@3Dice.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: 3Dice Support <SupportTeam@3Dice.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ticket#2010063010000029] wagering on the last deposit
> To: gianni2711@yahoo.com
> Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 5:42 AM
>
>
> Hi Giani,
>
> I have attached here a summary of your play from Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:51:56 .
>
> 20:51:56 $130.00 UseMyWallet Deposit
>
> Date Desc StartB PeakB EndB #gamerounds
> 20:53:46 Tutankhamon $130.01 $149.72 $147.36 12
> 20:56:52 Tutankhamon $147.36 $154.11 $147.52 35
> 21:40:49 Tutankhamon $147.52 $180.02 $176.6 86
> 21:60:36 Tutankhamon $176.6 $176.6 $169.4 36
> 21:13:49 Tutankhamon $169.4 $169.87 $152.94 137
> 21:19:27 Tutankhamon $152.94 $152.94 $132.52 116
> 21:20:13 SuperSuits $132.52 $132.52 $130.45 10
> 21:30:18 Tutankhamon $130.45 $138.61 $137.97 115
> 21:33:38 Tutankhamon $137.97 $145.99 $144.59 38
> 21:35:15 Tutankhamon $144.59 $144.59 $138.7 33
> 21:36:18 Tutankhamon $138.7 $138.7 $135.35 20
> 21:41:52 Tutankhamon $135.35 $158.06 $158.06 66
> 21:42:16 MoolahLight $158.06 $158.06 $157.66 4
> 21:44:20 Tutankhamon $157.66 $161.11 $156.5 37
> 21:46:56 Tutankhamon $156.5 $159.71 $152.11 50
> 21:50:26 Tutankhamon $152.11 $152.75 $152.75 39
> 21:50:59 Tutankhamon $152.75 $152.75 $150.09 12
> 21:53:51 Tutankhamon $150.09 $164.46 $164.46 19
> 21:54:31 Tutankhamon $164.46 $164.46 $161.12 14
> 21:54:55 Tutankhamon $161.12 $161.12 $159.62 6
> 21:55:19 Tutankhamon $159.62 $159.62 $157.89 7
> 21:56:15 Tutankhamon $157.89 $158.14 $154.38 19
> 21:57:31 Tutankhamon $154.38 $155.03 $152.43 24
> 21:59:20 Tutankhamon $152.43 $152.52 $147.9 28
> 22:60:27 Tutankhamon $147.9 $147.9 $124.02 146
> 22:70:26 Tutankhamon $124.02 $132.71 $131.96 12
> 22:90:38 Tutankhamon $131.96 $131.96 $127.93 37
> 22:22:70 Tutankhamon $127.93 $132.88 $123.14 177
> 22:22:30 Tutankhamon $123.14 $123.14 $122.63 3
> 22:23:57 Tutankhamon $122.63 $123.18 $119.72 23
> 22:27:50 Industria $119.72 $119.72 $118.6 6
> 22:30:35 Tutankhamon $118.6 $118.6 $106.84 69
> 22:54:11 Tutankhamon $106.84 $106.84 $28.27 414
>
>
> You have deposited $130 , started your play with a total in comp points of
> 70.09CP and ended up with a total in comp points of 95.99CP .
>
> Kind regards,
> Anna
>
>
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So the computer makes mistakes(as per Anna say) but RANDOMLY, cause on the same page...some time is correct and sometimes is wrong.

CMON.

Now on top of it Ive been degraded from silver**** to silver** while keeping depositing and losing.
Thats what Enzo has to say about:


Hi, giovanni

It would be wrong to pass judgement based on the name of the beast .. lets look at the
numbers from the past 60 days and judge from that.

total deposit : *2259.78 $
*total withdraw : *1675 $
net depo : 584.78 $
*total comp : *415.02 $*

(not true Ive lost $1093 of my own fkking money)

that means you've received a net comp of 70.9% .. that is a very high comp level
by anyone's standard. 70% on the net depo, without any maxcashouts is a good comp.

The 3Dice loyalty system is not based on deposits but instead on play. That means
that sometimes the same deposits will result in a higher level and other times in a lower
one. It's a difficult balance, and you have to take into account that the loyalty runs almost
30 days behind on the play (it looks at your last 3 periods of 10 days), and the comps
are even 10 days later. At the end of the day if this system has brought you a 70% comp
level over the past 60 days then I think its a futility whether its calling itself silver 2 or
silver 3.

I know its no fun when it goes down but look at it just as a barometer. If someone playing
at your level today stops at 3Dice he will drop a star every 10 days, whereas you with
continued play will keep hovering around silver 2, maybe go up once if you play a big win,
and down if you have bad luck or less time. But 60 days from now your level would still
be the same and you would've still received royal comps on all your play.

Lets not focus on the wrapping, lets focus on the gift inside the wrapping :)

Kindest regards,

Enzo

> Hello Enzo.
> Just an heads up.
> In the last 2 month (may and june) I have deposited $2.233 .( with total losses of $ 1.093)
> ...and Im overall losing well over 7K...
> I ve been though degraded from silver*** or silver**** ( I cant recall exactly )......to a silver** status.
> Where is the point than on keep depositing, if I dont go forward but backward instead?
> Regards
> Giovanni (kakata)
>
.

Net Deposit? I fkkin know what Ive lost,you idiot....and you reply with %%%
What do you eat ? Bread and percentages? You wont grow much,you conartist.
Ive received 70.%im comps....who gives shit about it...if you NEVER win with your fkkin comps...you moron.
You keep stealing and keep giving away your bullshit to those who are willing to listen...not me.

Now close my fukking account and send me an email confirming it...I will make sure to wipe my ASS with it.

The only person I do like at your casino?....hasnt born yet.



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Hi kakata,

Was this post really necessary? I mean with all the insults and nasty language?

Is there something in the water? Seems like a lot of people are getting stressed out over...what? Not getting enough comp points?

Time for a reality check. If you gamble and lose, well - that's what the odds favor. No need to go apeshit.

And just a admin warning: you have had a number of "vacations" for flaming others. Please don't force our hand again. Be cool - thank you.
 
I aint got no problem with people having a rant at a casino - done it myself. But damn you need to take a massive chill pill. Why all the insults ? From what I see your comps are pretty damn good based on your deposits. And no this aint ass licking a casino, but man oh man de-stress!
 
Actually, with kakata's insulting rant - I wouldn't blame Enzo ignoring this thread. But that's up to him.

I don't agree.

Why should the reps from casinos (not just 3dice) ignore a thread? If it goes ignored, that may put thoughts in peoples minds.

This should be addressed IMO.
 
Hi kakata,

Was this post really necessary? I mean with all the insults and nasty language?

Is there something in the water? Seems like a lot of people are getting stressed out over...what? Not getting enough comp points?

Time for a reality check. If you gamble and lose, well - that's what the odds favor. No need to go apeshit.

And just a admin warning: you have had a number of "vacations" for flaming others. Please don't force our hand again. Be cool - thank you.




...of course not about comp....as usual, for as much as I try, I get misunderstood.

If they can give you so many free money every time you ask for, is just because they know, you will not win with it,unless they want you to..

How they know you will not win?

They have a third switch, witch can be turned off as they please.

Like switching from fun mode to a real mode....they also have the FU switch that can be turned off when they decide to.

How come that you can lose 20 times in a row...but NEVER win 10 times in a row???
How come that you will NEVER win on their free money?

I have ALWAYS lost for example 10 times in a row after 1 withdraw....concidence? ....too much of concidence after 3 years of playing there.
Never happened to me to withdraw 5 times in a row.

Not because I didnt push the cashout botton....simply because I
couldnt.

I tried to change slots ...to log out...to leave and play next day...NOTHING worked...cause they decided so. You withdrew once and be sure you wont withdraw again any time soon.

Unless,of course, youve lost 1000 and withdrew 50 than you might win again.

I dont know, ppl here deposit 100 and withdraw 70?? and than say : I WON?
(if so...your brain surgery was unsucessfull)

And also their fast pay outs...are no longer as fast as they used to be....

lately I have been waiting up to 9 days(several times) for a check that(earlier) always arrived in 2 days. Same person sending em, same place of origin.. Los Angeles.

The stats Ive posted (Anna sent it to me) was just to show that also when there is a visible MISTAKE.....they will say :oops:hh noo ( and Ive wagered much more than that)

Now to those who will say: where is the proof?

I didnt go there and I havent seen the 3th switch( whatever it is.. I call it switch)...

My answer is : why...did u go there and check their percentages and all the BS they tell you????

Why shoud I believe whatever they say? ( anyway I dont and never will)

My main rage at Enzo is, that he always "try" to outsmart everyone with those slimy words...(it works for many) it does not work with me...and I had told him already.
 
Settle down, Kakata, before you either have a heart attack or give yourself heartburn! ;)

I would think the solution to your problem is to end your account at 3Dice. There are plenty of places to pay that you feel comfortable with, I presume.

Life is too Damn short to let an insignificant on line casino twist you up so badly. Not everyone likes 3Dice, you know.

Be careful and take care, OK?
 
Kakata, deep breath. Think about it a little more before you post or you will be back on vacation and then what will the ladies do. :D

If 3Dice gives you that much aggravation, then find someplace else to play. I let 3D go along time ago and haven't missed it abit.
 
Just calm down, hold back and relax.

I also had my worst deposits at 3d dice but no complains, i just go away and play somewhere else. No need to frustate things. Keep your money and play somewhere you get entertainment and not nerves. Wish you the best!
 
THEY think they are always fukkin right.

to the eyes of those few IDIOTS/RETARD that do compliment you whatever you do, also if you shit on their had...they are simply happy cause that was Enzo's shit....but thats not me.

I fkkin know what Ive lost,you idiot....you conartist.

you moron.

You keep stealing and keep giving away your bullshit to those who are willing to listen...not me.

Now close my fukking account and send me an email confirming it...I will make sure to wipe my ASS with it.

I've read this about half a dozen times, and am absolutely amazed that your name isn't red. Forget that it's a casino rep you're talking to...if anyone called another member here an idiot and a moron, chances are they're gone. Bryan must really like you.

They have a third switch, witch can be turned off as they please.

Like switching from fun mode to a real mode....they also have the FU switch that can be turned off when they decide to.

My main rage at Enzo is, that he always "try" to outsmart everyone with those slimy words...(it works for many) it does not work with me...and I had told him already.

If you really believe there is someone sitting at a desk, with their finger on a switch....turning it off and on at will, time for you to quit gambling.

I'm not even sure I understand exactly what your complaint is? Is it that your comp points aren't adding up correctly? Or is it that your loyalty level isn't moving up, but down? Or are you just bitching (again) about losing?

All I know is that your post is so out of line, it's not funny. I've been hard on casino reps before.....but have never spoken to one like that, not even any of the Virtual reps that have been here over the years.

Enzo's words are slimy? Gee, now he's being crucified for having a vocabulary and actually using it. :rolleyes:

If I were him, I would honour your request, close your account, send you the email, and be done with you for good. No one should have to take that abuse.
 
Looks like about 80% RTP over 1850 spins on one of the highest variance slots there is, not much to complain about. I'm assuming it's $20 wagered for 1 comp point, could be wrong on that which would change the RTP.

The other complaint is that apparently the logs provide timestamps in the form 22:6:30 instead of 22:06:30 and Anna made a typo when manually fixing it to be more readable, nothing wrong with the logs or the computer.

Running an online casino has to be one of the worst jobs ever.
 
Enzo's words are slimy? Gee, now he's being crucified for having a vocabulary and actually using it. :rolleyes:

The problem is he uses it when he shouldn't and doesn't use it when he should.

Kakata, you really have to learn not to give a shit. Just close your account, dump the software and find something you actually enjoy to pass your time.
 
Kakata, you really have to learn not to give a shit. Just close your account, dump the software and find something you actually enjoy to pass your time.

Yes, and a little anger management wouldn't be out of order, not to mention a good helping of self-restraint. :nod:
 
kakata i believe you have had many wins that eclipse this $$ rant , i cant for the life of me understand your posture on this specific issue

general question's yes but this delivery is over the top the staff and Anna
especially are number 1
Enzo has come into the forum and explained casino run programs and math equations that no other owner would even bother with [on subject's not pertaining to dice ]

if thee fish aren't biting we leave the pond till next day
this isn't a new thing

you owe three dice and the entire staff a apology

a fellow gambler R C
 
Crap

"You might be, to the eyes of those few IDIOTS/RETARD that do compliment you whatever you do, also if you shit on their had...they are simply happy cause that was Enzo's shit....but thats not me.Did you undearsteand it?"

Sorry you are upset but I do like 3dice and I do well there just because I do not agree with you I hardly think that makes me an idiot or a retard. Step away from the computer and go fly a kite. I dont care what anyone says if I like playing there and do well that is what matters to me. 3dice is the only place I have even talked to the staff. Why dont you just go to a different casino if you are not happy there. This makes me think of a guy in Vegas yelling at the staff that their casino sucks instead of just going to one next door. This seems almost personal.
 
I've read this about half a dozen times, and am absolutely amazed that your name isn't red. Forget that it's a casino rep you're talking to...if anyone called another member here an idiot and a moron, chances are they're gone. Bryan must really like you.



If you really believe there is someone sitting at a desk, with their finger on a switch....turning it off and on at will, time for you to quit gambling.

I'm not even sure I understand exactly what your complaint is? Is it that your comp points aren't adding up correctly? Or is it that your loyalty level isn't moving up, but down? Or are you just bitching (again) about losing?

All I know is that your post is so out of line, it's not funny. I've been hard on casino reps before.....but have never spoken to one like that, not even any of the Virtual reps that have been here over the years.

Enzo's words are slimy? Gee, now he's being crucified for having a vocabulary and actually using it. :rolleyes:

If I were him, I would honour your request, close your account, send you the email, and be done with you for good. No one should have to take that abuse.




...you didnt???? :confused::confused:
 
when an Italian leave his wife is for few main reason: either she cheated or she didnt shower to often or she was not so pretty looking....
Now, some of you, can organize a vacation all toghether on a remote Island...
there wont be a lot of sex...but a lot of IDEAS sharing....
and if you dont fit...change your avatar.
 
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Yeah I gotta give Enzo points too because he does try to explain things to players and offers up valuable opinions. I never played at 3 dice yet but c'mon your playing slots!!!!WTF!!!!!!!! you really expect to win often when you play???? It's an RNG with a pre-determined pay out level you can't be the guy who get's the jackpot regularly. Maybe Enzo will explain to us how this all works so we're not guessing. R.E. does it have to make 1000 to pay out 1 or can it pay out first and then go tight? probably sounds really dumb and that's because we don't know.
 
Yeah I gotta give Enzo points too because he does try to explain things to players and offers up valuable opinions. I never played at 3 dice yet but c'mon your playing slots!!!!WTF!!!!!!!! you really expect to win often when you play???? It's an RNG with a pre-determined pay out level you can't be the guy who get's the jackpot regularly. Maybe Enzo will explain to us how this all works so we're not guessing. R.E. does it have to make 1000 to pay out 1 or can it pay out first and then go tight? probably sounds really dumb and that's because we don't know.



....look for a job...thats all I can suggest you...:rolleyes:
and if you do have one (try to keep it)
 
I don't know Kakata, knowing how these machines work and determine when/how to pay could be useful. Such as the old story las vegas casino's used to put the loosest machines in the front of the row by the entrance so people winning jack pots would entice others to come in and play. Any knowledge is good .
 

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