The slow death of the online casino bonus

[dreamguardian1]

So i broke down and opened another CWG account at LUcky Red (new account just different casino under the group just to clarify), my break down was in using a bonus. I about fell out when the playtrhough amount was $10,500.00. I quickly burned through that just to get rid of that damn playthrough and deposit on my own. Never ever again, i stand by the fact that bonuses hurt the players and benefit only the casinos.

 

[shewoff]

WOW dreamguardian1 what was the amount of your deposit that made your playthru so high?I play at 4 CWC and I don,t think I have ever seen it higher than 25X on the playthru?? That is the kind of playthru,s that some of the rogue sites would lay on you for a $75.00 or $100.00 deposit with a 100% bonus and no I,m not saying that any of the CWC sites are rogue. I just would like to know what your deposit was and that will allow me to put this playthru into perspective. I have had a fair share of win,s at LR and I have made a few bonus,s I like to play without that particular harness.Look forward to hearing from you on this? Peace Out! Out Of The Mist! shewoff​

 

[ocportal]

the title of this thread is already scary enough!

 

[Kaynos]

There is 2 ways to see that. You play to win money or you play for fun. When i play for fun, i consider the money invested in the casino lost. In that case i don't mind taking the bonus to extend my game play as long as possible. If i beat the wagering requirement of the bonus (which is almost impossible), i consider this pure luck, i'll take my win and leave. When i play to make money, i don't want to have any restriction on how i spend my money. I want to be able to withdraw if i win big. I don't want any strings attached. So ask yourself the question, are you playing for fun or to make money ? The answer will dictate if you should take the bonus or not.

 

[Adriana B]

Well that was my line of reasoning when I took the 100% bonus at Next Casino. I wanted to have fun and extend my play. Only problem is I couldn't play the games I have fun with so you are totally restricting the amount of fun you have. I guess if I take a bonus again it will be at a casino that allows you to play all the games.

 

[Harry_BKK]

Well that was my line of reasoning when I took the 100% bonus at Next Casino. I wanted to have fun and extend my play. Only problem is I couldn't play the games I have fun with so you are totally restricting the amount of fun you have. I guess if I take a bonus again it will be at a casino that allows you to play all the games.

Next Casino allows pretty much all slots to be played with bonus funds, you can even play on progressives (they count only 50% though).

They have a short list of games you can't play due to the nature of those slots where you accumulate spins or build up bonus rounds. These games are restricted at pretty much every casino when using a bonus.

5. For this promotion, not all games contribute the same percentage towards reducing a player's wagering requirement. Wagers made on most games contribute 100%, with the following exceptions: All slot machines and other games with a progressive jackpot contribute 50%. Super Nudge 6000, Jackpot 6000 and Mega Joker classic slots contribute 20%. Table Games, Hi-Lo games and Video Poker games (except Jacks or Better) contribute 10%. All type of Black Jack games, All Roulettes, All Jacks or Better Video Poker, Punto Banco, Baccarat, Oasis Poker, Texas Hold´em, Craps and Casino Hold´em contribute 1%.

6. A few games are not playable with bonus funds. A customer will not be technically able to play these slot machines with bonus funds at all: Scrooge, Devils Delight, Champion of the Track, Robin Hood, Tomb Raider 2, Castle Builder, Pearls of India, The Wish Master, Forsaken Kingdom, Big Bang, Eggomatic, Lucky Angler, Aliens, Blood Suckers, Simsalabim, Eye of the Kraken, Stardust, Peek-a-Boo and Tower Quest. All games in our Live Casino will also not be playable at all with bonus funds. If you wish to play any of these games, make sure you do not have an active casino bonus.

 

[matthiasr]

I guess if I take a bonus again it will be at a casino that allows you to play all the games.

I would recommend doing the same thing.
Or not getting a bonus at all ...

 

[kavaman]

I personally think bonuses are great. Don't get me wrong, you have to read the bonus t&c thoroughly to decide if you wan't to take the bonus, but at most cases, it takes some of the house edge away, so you get more playing time, and have more funds to get lucky.

Thats not the case always, and if you wan't hassle free gaming and don't want to read any terms, then don't take the bonus. But if you read the terms and the bonus seems worth your while by all means just take it, i find most bonuses to be great at making your playing session last longer.

 

[SpelGalen]

What about free spins?

I've noticed some other Casinos giving away free spins upon deposit.

I feel like free spins are a bit less invasive, as you can usually play up all your real money first, and then choose to withdraw any winnings before playing your free spins (but some casinos cancel your free spins if you withdraw before playing them). Either way you are left with more choice.

 

[Mobcasinos]

I fully understand that bonuses are not obligatory but isn’t it a great and extra ordinary feeling when you are having some? I have tried setting aside the bonuses and I was totally amazed that it is still really present just in other terms or forms given away by online casinos. As for my opinion, no payout limits and fast payouts are far more better than just having the conventional bonuses.

 

[gagamel]

In 2015 I stopped playing with bonuses because my gaming changed. I play only HV slots these days and if I hit big I want to cash out immediately.

Of course, if you just want to try new games or a new casino a bonus can be very helpful because of the longer playtime.

 

[spintee]

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I would advise not to post links, Especially promoting your own casino,

I would contact the administrates Link Outdated / Removed and try and work something out, You could give your casino a bad name before its started, If your genuine than why not go down the right route,

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[geordiecolin]

Taking a first deposit bonus is akin to agreeing to taking a first date for a meal. Taking a casino's 2nd and 3rd sign up deposit bonus is akin to agreeing to a starter main and desert. They are liable to give you some promise of things to come only to let you down before the end leaving you to foot the bill.The only one who gets screwed is you.
But once in a while you get the full works at the end of it

 

[birthdaysuit]

"scavenger hunts with cash prizes, raffles and drawings, free give-aways. Players really enjoy these sorts of promos"

Yes, I appreciated your suggestions. Moreover, wheel spins for freebies, 10 free spins per X amount of spins played, cash-back, and other tricks are more desirable than loaded bonuses.

 

[Przecinek]

I will never play without bonus. If you don't want gambling to get out of hand I suggest you play with bonuses. Sure you can withdraw when you want etc. but it's much harder to manage your bankroll.

 

[birthdaysuit]

I will never play without bonus. If you don't want gambling to get out of hand I suggest you play with bonuses. Sure you can withdraw when you want etc. but it's much harder to manage your bankroll.

Lucky for you then they're not going anywhere yet

 

[Casperito]

So far I've made small deposits in 3 online casinos and didnt take the welcome bonus in any of them. I am new to online gambling, so maybe I am missing something long term, but so far I see more positives than negatives in my decision - primarily, because I feel like I have full control over my money and I don't have to read into T&C's very carefully to see what games I can play, what bets I can put etc.

For me it didnt make much sense because my deposit was small. Maybe if you deposit like $300, getting an extra $300 is a good deal even with all the requirements and conditions.

Also, from my life experience I also notcied that if the seller really wants you to buy something (bonuses are heavily advertised and suggested by the support teams in the casinos where I registered), it usually means there's much more benefit from this sale to him than to you.

 

[Mobcasinos]

It was a worth reading even I took me some time to finish it it's worth it. Yes today all the so called Bonuses has a terms and condition to follow. They will give you Free spin, Free money to play or even a money back offer but all those offer has a term and condition. When you read their terms and condition you will be shock at how high the wagering requirement you need to full fill. Online casino offered free money those days with no terms and condition just to attract gambler to play online instead of visiting a casino but since they need to make more profit and still offer the so called Bonuses they have to make some terms and conditions.

 

[spintee]

It was a worth reading even I took me some time to finish it it's worth it. Yes today all the so called Bonuses has a terms and condition to follow. They will give you Free spin, Free money to play or even a money back offer but all those offer has a term and condition. When you read their terms and condition you will be shock at how high the wagering requirement you need to full fill. Online casino offered free money those days with no terms and condition just to attract gambler to play online instead of visiting a casino but since they need to make more profit and still offer the so called Bonuses they have to make some terms and conditions.

Exactly SOME, But most now days are taking it out of concept, Sneaking higher wagers in, Some even including the deposit amount just like the IPS sites have done in recent weeks, Excluding more and more games, Popular 9 liners that are way in the casino's favour but again sneak them in so you break rules, Putting a 24 -48 hrs to clear wager, Changing bet size, The list goes on,

Most of theses are not there to combat fraud or advantage players they are there to screw players over

 

[SlotsLover]

I love bonuses, but PLEASE casinos....

I have to admit, I love playing with bonuses. I also don't mind playing under extensive terms and conditions. But, for everyone's protection, if possible, DO NOT ALLOW THE PLAYER TO BREAK THE RULES. That means, if a game is not allowed, do not allow it to be accessed when playing with bonus. If there is a minimum or maximum you wish the player to wager per spin or hand, limit it in the software. If a player is not allowed to comingle bonuses, prevent it in the cashier. In this manner, we can prevent all the BS about bonus rules, bonus abuse, and fine print. Players want to play. Casinos need to set rules but please let the player play and not worry they raised their wagers on a rush and now are disqualified or didn't read the entire T&C. We are gamblers, not lawyers

Oh, and one more thing, PLEASE no max cashouts on deposit bonuses. If I hit the spin I can post on 1000x or 3000x threads, I want to collect all of it!

Just my 2c worth of opinion.

 

[slots-guide]

I have to admit, I love playing with bonuses. I also don't mind playing under extensive terms and conditions. But, for everyone's protection, if possible, DO NOT ALLOW THE PLAYER TO BREAK THE RULES. That means, if a game is not allowed, do not allow it to be accessed when playing with bonus. If there is a minimum or maximum you wish the player to wager per spin or hand, limit it in the software. If a player is not allowed to comingle bonuses, prevent it in the cashier. In this manner, we can prevent all the BS about bonus rules, bonus abuse, and fine print. Players want to play. Casinos need to set rules but please let the player play and not worry they raised their wagers on a rush and now are disqualified or didn't read the entire T&C. We are gamblers, not lawyers

Oh, and one more thing, PLEASE no max cashouts on deposit bonuses. If I hit the spin I can post on 1000x or 3000x threads, I want to collect all of it!

Just my 2c worth of opinion.

Absolutely spot on there. ALL casinos should follow those simple guidelines. Well said.

 

[t1chin01]

My view of the Casino Bonuses

Absolutely spot on there. ALL casinos should follow those simple guidelines. Well said.

First of all, BIG hi, what's up to all of you.

Soooo, there are many things I want to write about, I don't even know where to start... So let's start from the begining...
So, before my "cooking career" set off I was helping a friend of mine who is/was (I really don't know - we are not in touch any more - we parted ways mostly because he got to greedy and started promoting just about anyone who would pay him and I couldn't/didn't want to accept that as a players who relies on sites like that to be objective -speaking of that GJ CM!!!) having an aff site promoting onilne casinos.. I started off as an...how do you say this..editor? I checked his texst (reviews, articles and stuff like that) for errors, made sure they are less of googletranslate and more in the spirit of engllish language (stuff like that). Later on (as I got frustrated with the english he/whoever wrote the content) I started writing reviews myself. Still later on I was doing/trying to do some research on casinos/affiliates/aff sites/game providers etc. This was like 5 years ago so the information I will share may or may not be correct today, though. It's just that i think/like to think this is the topic I could be helpful the most in as a newbie member of this (AWSOME) forum.

Oh again where to start....I seem to have this problem quite often...
Let's start with the last post.. As far as I could learn back in the day, the reason why Bonus restrictions are not implemented in the software/backoffice for players playing with them was the fact that majority of casinos are very young (up to couple of years old), not even to mention how many % of them are up to 5,6 years old. This is important becasue many of them use shared/borrowed/leased or otherwise NOT THEIR OWN platforms. This poses a big problem when you need/want to change things up in the background (I suppose setting those limits is a change) since casino can't do that themselves (since they don't own the platform), so to do that actual platform owners should do it (for each casino using their platform individually as the casinos find it neccessary or as they would like it to be). Again, I GUESS that would be to much a hassle for platofrom owners, having to that for each and every casino operating with them..
And if casino has theirown platform - hmmmm, no excuse there, they just leave it to have a chance of robbing people of their winnings.

Next order of business I wanted to attend to..oo yes the infamous x10 cashout rule..
Again, for me it all depends on casino's age and reputation. If we are talking about a new, young casino I can chew it up. I suppose (as a bussines owner myself) that cashflow for new companies can be a problem as well as not having a big pool of regular players -> income. x10 can sometimes save this young companies from premature closing. Maybe it's just me but I understand it. What pisses me off the most is some casisnos with 10 or almost 20 years in the business and with big-name reputation having the same rule. I wonder REALLY? After xx years you still have this rule? F**** o**

Let's call it a day for now... To much writinig is not good for me... But I also have some thought about game providers, if anyone is interested them (my thoughts) I will be happy to share them

 

[Coluch]

If you just want to try new casino the bonus can be very useful, i agree, thats why i like them.

 

[timmy19733]

I think there is quite a lack in creativity where it comes to bonuses ( or to put it a bit broader: rewarding players). I see the standard stuff 90% of the time: standard bonus like an double up or free spins but with a huge wager.

 

[kysmet4e]

Yes. I also see such a "death" for online casinos. Even in my country there were many people playing online...