Squirrel Pike.

[skiny]

Boy, this has really gotten out of hand..There is definitely a lot of frustration going on between skiny and enzo.

I had no personal issue with Enzo until he started insulting me in his chat room and then pulled this childish stunt.

 

[refre]

My first post in this thread. - This is probably the worst game out of any online casino I know of. It does pay out about once every 20 times you play it. The rest of the time it hits zero about 75 spins out of 80. Even 4 wilds on the screen at once barely pays 2x my wager.

You do get to match 3 squirrels about every 40 to 80 spins that will pay about 80% of what it cost to hit it if you're lucky.

Which part of that was construed as a personal issue with Enzo?

This is not about this thread alone.
You have been throwing around accusations that 3Dice is rigged for a long time now.
I urge the members here to look at all your posts to get the whole picture.

You have been presented with logs and statistics proving your accusations wrong, and yet you don't seem to acknowledge any of it.


Freddy

 

[blacklabrador]

This is not about this thread alone.
You have been throwing around accusations that 3Dice is rigged for a long time now.
I urge the members here to look at all your posts to get the whole picture.

You have been presented with logs and statistics proving your accusations wrong, and yet you don't seem to acknowledge any of it.


Freddy

If he has been throwing around that he has been playing on a rigged casino then that is just classic Why in gods name would anyone play on a casino if they thought that?

In his defense, no matter what he thinks or how he chooses to spend his money, it was still completely unprofessional for that casino rep to ban him on this board in public, just my opinion .

The online gaming industry has taken a massive blow due to the ignorant USA government throwing its weight around . That being said, you would think these online casinos would do everything, within reason, to keep every single customer of theirs nothing but happy.

 

[Brady]

Back to the original topic of this post, Squirrel Pike is one of my favorite games at 3Dice. Been down to under a dollar and raised my balance to $1k. The best part was the fact I did it all on a $10 tournament win. What other online casino can you say that about?

 

[Cristian]

if im not mistaking this happened after skiny`s post ? no sarcasm .

 

[skiny]

Back to the original topic of this post, Squirrel Pike is one of my favorite games at 3Dice. Been down to under a dollar and raised my balance to $1k. The best part was the fact I did it all on a $10 tournament win. What other online casino can you say that about?

I started with 10 bucks and quit with 4k at Sun Palace.... Next question?

 

[just play]

Back to the original topic of this post, Squirrel Pike is one of my favorite games at 3Dice. Been down to under a dollar and raised my balance to $1k. The best part was the fact I did it all on a $10 tournament win. What other online casino can you say that about?

Tomorrow someone will probobly post that they hit it big playing squirrel

Not laughing at you Brady, just laughing cuz someone called it. (Don't know when these wins came though.

 

[just play]

I started with 10 bucks and quit with 4k at Sun Palace.... Next question?

I started with $50, got it up to $5,000 and blew the lot a few years back.

 

[Cristian]

I once caught a fish THIS big!

 

[skiny]

I once caught a fish THIS big!

Do you have a screen shot of it here in this forum? I have one of my 4k.

 

[Trollet]

Quote:
Tomorrow someone will probobly post that they hit it big playing squirrel

Yes there will be...since you all got alot of players to go right to that slot right now.... so.... rest my case!

Trollet

 

[Mavin1]

Not laughing at you Brady, just laughing cuz someone called it. (Don't know when these wins came though.

Looks to me like around x-mas holidays, judging by the little bow and holley in the upper corner of the first pic and the winter scene behind the slot.

Just wanted to state that my reason for choosing not to play there is not because of Skiny's thread or comments, but because of the fact that I too am a ranter when I get fed up with "to much" tightness in a casino, so thought I would save Enzo the trouble of publicly banning me for not being totally happy. Also mainly because the software hates my computer and is nothing more than a pain in my chair, just trying to have a session at all.

 

[just play]

I once caught a fish THIS big!

I really have to stop drinking and reading here.

 

[skiny]

Winner screen shots don't impress me that much. They're nice eye candy but I know there are hundreds, even thousands of people playing these slot games and after enough spins someone's going to hit a big one. I'm more impressed to hear several people say things like "I get a lot of bonus features when I play it." or "I usually do ok with that game."

The last thing anyone should be doing is seeing some whopping hit on a slot game and running off pumping money into it trying to duplicate the hit. Those hits are few and far between and are nice to hope for but shouldn't be expected.

 

[LaurieJim]

Good God 12 pages i just read about frigging Squirrels or so i thought that was what this was all about

Is anyone else seeing a decline in great posts and threads anymore, this shit would not have gone on like this a year or more ago.

This is my favorite place to come and read and gain useful info about online gaming from the best around, now it seems to be the norm for a feeding frenzy on Casinos, Reps and the Posters who want to debate fair opinions about issues even if its about effing squirrels.

This is a great forum, founded upon by good members posts, past and present but if you were a new poster reading this mess now, wouldnt you be leary of posting, hell what would they be posting about, Skiny vs. Enzo or freaking critters on a 3 Dice slot game This is sad


Laurie

 

[funeral979]

I would just like to know how you can justify calling a slot one of the worst online games you have ever played....when you are getting a return of 104% on it?

I mean, anyone could post a screenshot with a few wilds on it and it not returning anything....it happens all the time. Why is this one special enough to warrant 12 pages of posts

Me thinks this has nothing whatsoever to do with Squirrel Pike.

 

[skiny]

Good God 12 pages i just read about frigging Squirrels or so i thought that was what this was all about

Is anyone else seeing a decline in great posts and threads anymore, this shit would not have gone on like this a year or more ago.

This is my favorite place to come and read and gain useful info about online gaming from the best around, now it seems to be the norm for a feeding frenzy on Casinos, Reps and the Posters who want to debate fair opinions about issues even if its about effing squirrels.

This is a great forum, founded upon by good members posts, past and present but if you were a new poster reading this mess now, wouldnt you be leary of posting, hell what would they be posting about, Skiny vs. Enzo or freaking critters on a 3 Dice slot game This is sad


Laurie

This thread started out as a rant about a game that I think spends way too much time hitting nothing. From there it turned into a public announcement about my banishment from a casino and 12 pages later it's an argument involving pretty much everyone except the person who started it.

Jasminebed said I should have an apology. I don't expect one. I didn't get one after he insulted me in front of a member of my family in his chat room and I won't get one now. Enzo started this and he's been back to follow the thread. To him this is a joke. He thinks things like this are funny and he's been back in his chat room with his little group of so called friends making light of it. He thought he could shame me by publicly kicking me out of his casino and instead my reputation has grown more in the last two days than it has in the last month. If he ever decides to apologize to someone he should go find a mirror. The only person he shamed was himself.

 

[skiny]

I would just like to know how you can justify calling a slot one of the worst online games you have ever played....when you are getting a return of 104% on it?

I mean, anyone could post a screenshot with a few wilds on it and it not returning anything....it happens all the time. Why is this one special enough to warrant 12 pages of posts

Me thinks this has nothing whatsoever to do with Squirrel Pike.

If Enzo would have done what any normal casino operator would have and just quietly banned me from the his casino this thread wouldn't have been 12 pages long. It probably wouldn't have been two pages long.

And as I said earlier in this thread. RTP is a deceiving number and I explained why. I also said I no longer believe everything this casino operator tells me. After insulting me in his chat room and then hiding and then showing up here to publicly ban me, he has no credibility as far as I'm concerned. He's not mature enough to be trustworthy.

 

[jod5413]

Skiny,

IMO you need to move on. You can not blame Enzo for how long this thread has become.

Just move on.

 

[kakata]

It's taken me a few days to come back to post in this thread, and there are an awful lot of posts, and I did not thank more of them because of my thanks limitations.

I would like to thank everyone for remaining pretty calm, and some of my thanked posts do not 100% reflect my views, but made valid and well presented points.

In the interest of full disclosurer, skiny and I have met in person. We certainly do not see eye to eye on some of his views about the tournaments at 3Dice. We're not (yet) friends, not like he calls me up to chat.

This is a public forum, and skiny posts with humour and insight, and always respectfully.

I feel that Enzo has the right to post to refute claims about the games there.

I think Enzo was 100% right to ask you to take your play elsewhere.

I know Enzo was 100% wrong to do it publicly, and I think it would be a good time to apologize Enzo.

Even casino managers are human (no one would want that silly bot in charge), and emotions get the best of us and we behave inappropriately.

Mature people apologize.

I knew it....thats why u are so cold lately....

 

[Cristian]

Too bad you got banned ... you just missed an almost unreal SP winning spree .
Not that i was paying more attention in chat looking for SP wins , it was that obvious , cuz basically that was the only game in which players got big wins . Or maybe everyone was playing SP , what do i know ...

 

[skiny]

Skiny,

IMO you need to move on. You can not blame Enzo for how long this thread has become.

Just move on.

This is just another ongoing thread. I answer what I see fit.

I knew it....thats why u are so cold lately....

?

Too bad you got banned ... you just missed an almost unreal SP winning spree .
Not that i was paying more attention in chat looking for SP wins , it was that obvious , cuz basically that was the only game in which players got big wins . Or maybe everyone was playing SP , what do i know ...

I already said that would happen in private. It's all part of the show. A smart person would be playing that game. It'll probably keep paying as long as this thread runs.

 

[SlotKing]

I'm still trying to figure out how a casino manager telling you that he is closing your account in public could be anything but good news...

Skiny,

Have you told everyone that pretty much every time you came in the chat room all you would do is complain? Even after the numerous times that people asked you to stop, have you told them that you continued anyway?

Have you told everyone how many times you came into the chat room and did nothing but [bleep] and [bleep] about pretty much everything 3Dice had to offer, including chat, but continued to play (and "chat") there anyway?

Have you told everyone that you would take private conversations between people and yourself public because you didn't like the outcome of the conversation?


Enzo had (and still has) every right to defend the casino - after all, he is its manager. He was appointed to deal with issues like this - this issue to him is now considered dealt with.

Regardless of why you were banned, public banning of someone is not unheard of. You can read all about others that have been publically banned from one forum Old / Expired Link. Not only that, every few days, a list pops up showing precisely who has been banned and the reason for it.

I know there is a difference between a forum and a casino - but for some reason, you seem to have been using this forum for your own personal insults against the games at 3Dice. Saying that the games pay -0- 70 out of however many spins is, IMO, an insult. Saying that your RTP isn't what it Enzo says it is is an insult to him and his system.

Let's assume something, shall we?

Let's say, over your life at 3Dice, you had 10,000 spins on SP averaging 45c/spin.

10,000*45c = $4,500 of wagering

Most of the spins were -0-, or less than your bet, "as you say".

3249*0 = $0 +
6750*.20 = $1,350 of winnings, RTP = 30%

Then, one day, you had a killing to play max. On your first and only spin at $9, You hit something that pays $3,330.

1350+3330 = $4,680 = 104% RTP

It only takes ONE hit to swing the RTP in the other direction - the essence of high variance.


Now, I know I don't need to give you a math lesson, but i'm simply saying that in all of its volatility, high variance is actually helping your bottom line, whether you see the end result of the nice hit or not. Putting it back into the game does not lower your RTP simply because you did not cash the winnings out.

 

[The Dude]

Just jumping in here real quick.

...I do think those nominations for Enzo's post are out of line and should be removed. Banning a player in a public forum is not nomination worthy and outrageous behavior.

I agree - thanking this post and nominating it for the best post of the fortnight was pretty uncool. I'm removing the thanks and nomination.

Please think twice before thanking a post that is criticizing another member. This can be misconstrued as mobbing.

...
Is anyone else seeing a decline in great posts and threads anymore, this shit would not have gone on like this a year or more ago...

Actually, there are plenty of informative - quality threads posted every week. You just have to keep you eyes open.

And if you still feel a need for great threads, please take the initiative and actively start them. Don't forget: the forum is what you make of it. Don't be a passive bystander - get busy.

 

[Marie2473]

I personally like 3dice, even though I have not deposited alot in the past, just because my deposits seem to escape so fast. however when I do deposit I am aware of the fact that most games are high variance and that I either will hit or fall hard.
I do belive that excluding/banning a player in public is not the most proffessional thing to do BUT on the other had, while reading this thread I get the feeling that the OP has done this before (no offense) and I can also understand beeing "fed-up" with it.
All in all, now atleast u dont have to play the slots anymore =))

 

[missmichelle]

I can understand the nomination being removed for that post, but I can't understand removing the thanks that it received. I think alot of people were agreeing on the fact that there was no point in the relationship continuing any longer. It seemed as though there was a new 3dice thread started about once a week by skiny. Enzo had already responded to many of them. If you were that unhappy with the place you should have moved on. Could it have been done in private? yes but then again so could have been all the accusations.

Believe me I have been losing my ass at 3dice along with every place else I play lately, but that is the nature of gambling. When it's good it's good but when it's bad it sucks. I could even see starting a thread bitching about your bad luck in general but to criticize a certain casino especially when it was stated that he quit depositing there a while ago was unecessary. Oh and by the way I am not in any group at 3dice. I went into chat once. I just hate to see any good casino bashed endlessly.

Michelle

 

[skiny]

I'm still trying to figure out how a casino manager telling you that he is closing your account in public could be anything but good news...

Skiny,

Have you told everyone that pretty much every time you came in the chat room all you would do is complain? Even after the numerous times that people asked you to stop, have you told them that you continued anyway?

Have you told everyone how many times you came into the chat room and did nothing but [bleep] and [bleep] about pretty much everything 3Dice had to offer, including chat, but continued to play (and "chat") there anyway?

Have you told everyone that you would take private conversations between people and yourself public because you didn't like the outcome of the conversation?


Enzo had (and still has) every right to defend the casino - after all, he is its manager. He was appointed to deal with issues like this - this issue to him is now considered dealt with.

Regardless of why you were banned, public banning of someone is not unheard of. You can read all about others that have been publically banned from one forum Old / Expired Link. Not only that, every few days, a list pops up showing precisely who has been banned and the reason for it.

I know there is a difference between a forum and a casino - but for some reason, you seem to have been using this forum for your own personal insults against the games at 3Dice. Saying that the games pay -0- 70 out of however many spins is, IMO, an insult. Saying that your RTP isn't what it Enzo says it is is an insult to him and his system.

Let's assume something, shall we?

Let's say, over your life at 3Dice, you had 10,000 spins on SP averaging 45c/spin.

10,000*45c = $4,500 of wagering

Most of the spins were -0-, or less than your bet, "as you say".

3249*0 = $0 +
6750*.20 = $1,350 of winnings, RTP = 30%

Then, one day, you had a killing to play max. On your first and only spin at $9, You hit something that pays $3,330.

1350+3330 = $4,680 = 104% RTP

It only takes ONE hit to swing the RTP in the other direction - the essence of high variance.


Now, I know I don't need to give you a math lesson, but i'm simply saying that in all of its volatility, high variance is actually helping your bottom line, whether you see the end result of the nice hit or not. Putting it back into the game does not lower your RTP simply because you did not cash the winnings out.

Now here's the thing... If you want to discuss these points about slot games and math that's perfectly acceptable. I'm happy to discuss this with you all day long and I may or may not agree with you. I might not even be correct but that's the entire point of a casino or slot game discussion. There is absolutely nothing wrong with any player venting about a slot game or any amount of players discussing the merits or fairness of an extremely high variance game. Putting that aside - I have never made any private conversations public. Including ones with Enzo where he was more than ignorant and insulting. I have never mentioned anyone's name from a private conversation in a public thread. I respect people's privacy and every single person I talk to privately knows anything they say is safe with me. As for that 3Dice chat room how much a person complains doesn't really seem nearly as important as who's doing the complaining. I've seen and been told many many times over about a barrage of complaints about slot games or card games in that chat room and not a single person says a word. I've personally spent hours happily chatting and making jokes and with one sentence I've had the same half dozen brown nosers jump on me for simply saying a slot game is paying crap. It's sad to even watch. The rampant favoritism in that chat room nothing short of childish and I quit chatting in it long before I was ever banned.

I personally like 3dice, even though I have not deposited alot in the past, just because my deposits seem to escape so fast. however when I do deposit I am aware of the fact that most games are high variance and that I either will hit or fall hard.
I do belive that excluding/banning a player in public is not the most proffessional thing to do BUT on the other had, while reading this thread I get the feeling that the OP has done this before (no offense) and I can also understand beeing "fed-up" with it.
All in all, now atleast u dont have to play the slots anymore =))

Done what before? Complained about a slot game or a casino? Most of the people in here have complained about slot games or casinos. I've read threads where players have claimed that RTG casinos can alter the RTP, MG as well. I don't see any casino operators jumping off the deep end and banning them from any casinos. I don't even see them taking it personally. This is a public forum. People should be allowed to discuss whatever they please and give whatever opinions they please. If anyone disagrees with it they're well within their right to join the thread and debate the issue.

I can understand the nomination being removed for that post, but I can't understand removing the thanks that it received. I think alot of people were agreeing on the fact that there was no point in the relationship continuing any longer. It seemed as though there was a new 3dice thread started about once a week by skiny. Enzo had already responded to many of them. If you were that unhappy with the place you should have moved on. Could it have been done in private? yes but then again so could have been all the accusations.

Believe me I have been losing my ass at 3dice along with every place else I play lately, but that is the nature of gambling. When it's good it's good but when it's bad it sucks. I could even see starting a thread bitching about your bad luck in general but to criticize a certain casino especially when it was stated that he quit depositing there a while ago was unecessary. Oh and by the way I am not in any group at 3dice. I went into chat once. I just hate to see any good casino bashed endlessly.

Michelle

Thanking a post that simply says I'm being banned from a casino is basically thanking Enzo for banning me. It's ridiculous. My membership status at this casino is nobody's business but mine and Enzo's. Even if I'm banned from this casino I'm still within my rights to discuss the games. I've played them long enough to know them. Furthermore, it may seem like there was a new 3Dice thread every week but the reality is that there were a few threads that get posted in for several weeks. I didn't start them all. I didn't even post negatively in them all. I give my honest opinion. If it hurts a casino operator's feelings because a player isn't happy with one of the casino's games he probably shouldn't be a casino operator in the first place. Do I have a personal issue with Enzo? Yes, and they have nothing to do with the casino or my RTP. Have I made my posts about my experiences at his casino about him personally? No. It's pretty sad when the player is more professional and mature than the casino.

 

[Mavin1]

Sung to the Home on The Range tune. Enjoy!

Oh give me a home, where squirrels don't roam,
But where the play can last all day.
Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word,
Because the slots, have all gone my way.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.

I've tried RTG, but it sucks the blood out of me,
And Rival I just don't know.
But the oddball places I play, got me thinking, what the hey,
Oh my how I've gone far astray.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.




LOL, Sorry for the derail Skiny, just had to get this out of my system.

 

[RedAndi]

Mavin I am stealing that squirrel pic to use as my avatar
I love him!

 

[Mavin1]

Good thing I didn't pick the road kill pic! You can steal him, if you like.

 

[jod5413]

Have I made my posts about my experiences at his casino about him personally? No. It's pretty sad when the player is more professional and mature than the casino

So, basically you are saying you (the player) are more professional and mature than the casino (which would be Enzo, since that is what all this is about).

Can you not understand that THIS post of yours makes you guilty of bad mouthing the casino (Enzo). Almost every other post you have made has been slamming Enzo, whether you know it or not.

I am not taking sides, truly. I don't know either one of you, but what I know is you are trying to cause as much damage publicly that you can for 3Dice.

Enzo came, posted, and left. Whether anyone agrees with how Skiny was banished from the casino or not, Skiny seems to be enjoying keeping this thread going.

Enzo was wrong, he should not have banished Skiny in public. Hindsight is wonderful, no?

Skiny has been keeping the "feud" going with repetitive rants about how he has been harmed and how awful the returns are on Squirrel Pile. How Enzo has treated him badly, how he has done "nothing wrong".

Time to move on. Make it private, if it has to still go on. Please. I don't think I am alone in these thoughts.

 

[rockycatt]

ya lets put this vendetta to bed

 

[skiny]

So, basically you are saying you (the player) are more professional and mature than the casino (which would be Enzo, since that is what all this is about).

Can you not understand that THIS post of yours makes you guilty of bad mouthing the casino (Enzo). Almost every other post you have made has been slamming Enzo, whether you know it or not.

I am not taking sides, truly. I don't know either one of you, but what I know is you are trying to cause as much damage publicly that you can for 3Dice.

Enzo came, posted, and left. Whether anyone agrees with how Skiny was banished from the casino or not, Skiny seems to be enjoying keeping this thread going.

Enzo was wrong, he should not have banished Skiny in public. Hindsight is wonderful, no?

Skiny has been keeping the "feud" going with repetitive rants about how he has been harmed and how awful the returns are on Squirrel Pile. How Enzo has treated him badly, how he has done "nothing wrong".

Time to move on. Make it private, if it has to still go on. Please. I don't think I am alone in these thoughts.

Actually I have only answered other people's posts. I have not once come back here to this thread to post unless someone else posted to me first. Just like you're doing now.

Maybe I am guilty of bad mouthing Enzo. I wasn't until he got personal with me. Insulting me and trying to shame me here in this thread for the benifit of his followers. I only discussed his slot games and his service. Some of what I said was negative and some was positive. I never spoke of him personally.

And as for Enzo only posting here once, that's what he does. Then he'll go back to his chat room and treat it like a big joke. Or ask people to come back and thank his posts.

 

[footdr]

This is my favorite game at 3dice

It is the only game at 3dice I continually win on. But I found that you need to bet fewer lines(also play around a bit with lines and bet). Payout worse if I play 9 lines or max bet.

Basically I am not playing there again because just can't win without hitting bonus rounds.

 

[butterflyboogie]

OMG

I can't believe I am sitting here singing this catchy tune...but I am...LOL

Sung to the Home on The Range tune. Enjoy!

Oh give me a home, where squirrels don't roam,
But where the play can last all day.
Where seldom is heard, a discouraging word,
Because the slots, have all gone my way.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.

I've tried RTG, but it sucks the blood out of me,
And Rival I just don't know.
But the oddball places I play, got me thinking, what the hey,
Oh my how I've gone far astray.

Home, home in cyberspace, to many casinos I face,
To find that right one, not the squirrel son of a gun,
And the wins want to sweep me away.




LOL, Sorry for the derail Skiny, just had to get this out of my system.

 

[Mavin1]

I can't believe I am sitting here singing this catchy tune...but I am...LOL

Not bad for a chuckle. It just popped in my head so had to share.
Of course you'll be singing it for awhile, till you are sending me pm's never to write songs again! LOL.

 

[met1959]

Totally agree

This is probably the worst game out of any online casino I know of. It does pay out about once every 20 times you play it. The rest of the time it hits zero about 75 spins out of 80. Even 4 wilds on the screen at once barely pays 2x my wager.

You do get to match 3 squirrels about every 40 to 80 spins that will pay about 80% of what it cost to hit it if you're lucky.

That squirrel game dazzels but don't pay that often.