Someone Won $372281 on Betfair Roulette (Playtech)

[Capitalist]

Just saw this on Betfair casino homepage.


How is that even possible on Roulette? I know massive wins on slots is nothing special, but it is nearly impossible to win this sort of amount on Roulette. There's no mega jackpot in roulette, and luck runs out sooner or later. I know this, since I play roulette exclusively.

This will also put to rest RNG is rigged theory.

 

[worldlad]

Do you actually believe this?

I see it all the time 'Marge from Birmingham won £2million yesterday' I don't believe a word of it.

 

[Jasminebed]

No idea what the table limits are. I don't play much roulette in real, and never for high stakes, but I do know over at 3Dice in the freeroll roulette tournaments it is usual for the winner to have a peak balance of around $35,000, and that's an hour of play at $500 stakes. So if the table has a 5K limit, I can definitely see that happening.

By picking one number and betting the splits and corners surrounding it, you can hit pretty big.

Also, it doesn't say he "profitted" by 370K plus, just that they won it. He could have bet 400K for all I know.

 

[Capitalist]

Do you actually believe this?

I see it all the time 'Marge from Birmingham won £2million yesterday' I don't believe a word of it.

You mean it might be fake. I thought such a large UK bookie/casino won't do such a thing.

 

[Capitalist]

No idea what the table limits are. I don't play much roulette in real, and never for high stakes, but I do know over at 3Dice in the freeroll roulette tournaments it is usual for the winner to have a peak balance of around $35,000, and that's an hour of play at $500 stakes. So if the table has a 5K limit, I can definitely see that happening.

By picking one number and betting the splits and corners surrounding it, you can hit pretty big.

Also, it doesn't say he "profitted" by 370K plus, just that they won it. He could have bet 400K for all I know.

The table range at betfair is 10 cents - $10,000. That's why it attracts a ton of roulette players.

 

[miso]

The table range at betfair is 10 cents - $10,000. That's why it attracts a ton of roulette players.

I don't play roulette, but is that 10k max for all the bets across the table combined or is it a max single bet? Still, 10k bet on a number gives you 320k doesn't it?
That would explain it IMO.

 

[worldlad]

If thats the case then doing 10k bet is very much possible, I've often seen £3-7k bets I did one once for around 2.5k, I wonder how much the person spent getting that..

 

[aceking123]

high stakes often capped @£250 single number or i have two places i can go up to £200 & one @ £500 single number so max hit would be middle number , single splits of four single line double line red/black second dozen, high low numbers , you get the point , but some have max tables limits on overall , i would take this with a pinch of salt , MG maxs at £125 per single number premier roulette. playtech software is higher though , live games can go even higher i do believe.

 

[neilw]

A player that I sent to William Hill won £350,000 last year playing live roulette. So it is possible.

There have also been large winners at Royal Panda during the last 6 months.

 

[dusky]

What I would say is it's perfectly plausible for someone to win that much with 10k bets, so where does the last £1 come from?

I doubt they finish off playing by sticking £1 on red.

 

[KasinoKing]

You mean it might be fake. I thought such a large UK bookie/casino won't do such a thing.

IMO nearly all these "big winner" announcements are fake - especially when it's some odd amount you can't possible win in one spin.
And with BetFair being rogue - I wouldn't believe ANYTHING on their website.

They don't give you all the info, like Jasmine said. Maybe that's how much he has been paid for wins on roulette over the last 6 months, while being an overall loser - who knows?

KK

 

[lockinlove]

IMO nearly all these "big winner" announcements are fake - especially when it's some odd amount you can't possible win in one spin.
And with BetFair being rogue - I wouldn't believe ANYTHING on their website.

They don't give you all the info, like Jasmine said. Maybe that's how much he has been paid for wins on roulette over the last 6 months, while being an overall loser - who knows?

KK

I wouldnt say nearly all are fake I would say misleading because they dont tell you how much the player bet to win that amount. Some people who show up on that may actually lose lol.

I know the one on slotocash/grandevegas etc is legit. Ive seen my wins on it a few times. That being said, I once placed a bet for $2000 and my total win was $2200 and it showed as a $2200 win. So I had a $200 profit. But in people's head they think oh someone got lucky on a slot with a $1 bet. When thats rarely ever the case.

 

[Valhalla]

You mean it might be fake. I thought such a large UK bookie/casino won't do such a thing.

BetFair wouldn't be dishonest?

You're not from around here I see

 

[SPOPPLE]

Clearly fake, random numbers really your not going to hit a win with odd and even numbers on in high stake roulette. You might hit like £360,000 but not £352,149

 

[Capitalist]

IMO nearly all these "big winner" announcements are fake - especially when it's some odd amount you can't possible win in one spin.
And with BetFair being rogue - I wouldn't believe ANYTHING on their website.

They don't give you all the info, like Jasmine said. Maybe that's how much he has been paid for wins on roulette over the last 6 months, while being an overall loser - who knows?

KK

Thanks for letting this know. Hmm quite unexpected. Isn't this blatant false advertising? Didn't think UK high street bookies can do such a thing.

BetFair wouldn't be dishonest?

You're not from around here I see

The thing with Betfair being Rogued is - it's just about that ONE, SINGLE legendary bonus fiasco. Otherwise it's not at all a scam operation. And frankly speaking, one's money is 100% safe with Betfair. It's like a bank, probably safer than EU banks. There are many traders and punters who play on Betfair full time. Among punters and traders, it's probably the most trusted operation. Now since am a roulette player, I strictly don't take any bonus. The wagering requirement becomes outright impossible no matter how sweet the bonus is. Also we need generous table limit. For example, at Bet365 the limit is $1-$150 which is a sad joke. Ladbrokes also offers great table limits (video roulette offers $250,000!!!) but Betfair is much more professional than Ladbrokes. Most microgaming casinos don't offer free spins on roulette, which is a deal breaker.

This is why I (and many others) play at Betfair in spite of knowing its rogued status at Casinomeister and Wizard of Odds. Practical considerations wins over ideals.

 

[thebigs]

Casino's should be telling the truth something like The Big S loses 2k in a week once again.
Now i would believe that statement as i can vouch for the truth lol.

 

[worldlad]

A player that I sent to William Hill won £350,000 last year playing live roulette. So it is possible.

There have also been large winners at Royal Panda during the last 6 months.

I hope he gave you some of his winnings.

 

[worldlad]

Thanks for letting this know. Hmm quite unexpected. Isn't this blatant false advertising? Didn't think UK high street bookies can do such a thing.



The thing with Betfair being Rogued is - it's just about that ONE, SINGLE legendary bonus fiasco. Otherwise it's not at all a scam operation. And frankly speaking, one's money is 100% safe with Betfair. It's like a bank, probably safer than EU banks. There are many traders and punters who play on Betfair full time. Among punters and traders, it's probably the most trusted operation. Now since am a roulette player, I strictly don't take any bonus. The wagering requirement becomes outright impossible no matter how sweet the bonus is. Also we need generous table limit. For example, at Bet365 the limit is $1-$150 which is a sad joke. Ladbrokes also offers great table limits (video roulette offers $250,000!!!) but Betfair is much more professional than Ladbrokes. Most microgaming casinos don't offer free spins on roulette, which is a deal breaker.

This is why I (and many others) play at Betfair in spite of knowing its rogued status at Casinomeister and Wizard of Odds. Practical considerations wins over ideals.

Betfair is owned by Paddy Power don't think it's dodgy.

 

[neilw]

I hope he gave you some of his winnings.

I don't think I had much to do with it other than recommend somewhere to play high stakes roulette. I certainly won't earn any commission from him as the program is negative carry over. I had him ring fenced so can see that he is still playing, but no-where near the levels he was. So far he is managing to break even without spunking it all back. Hopefully he withdrew it and bought a house or something.

 

[Valhalla]

The thing with Betfair being Rogued is - it's just about that ONE, SINGLE legendary bonus fiasco. Otherwise it's not at all a scam operation. And frankly speaking, one's money is 100% safe with Betfair.

It's their sheer refusal to do the right thing and sort the mess out for those affected that keeps them rogued.
They actually went as far as taking money directly out of peoples' bank accounts, basically a charge-back. If any of us done that we'd be black listed at all casinos forever more. It may have only been once single incident, but it was just about as appalling as casino practice can possibly get. If they are capable of doing that, they are capable of anything in my opinion.

 

[KasinoKing]

Thanks for letting this know. Hmm quite unexpected. Isn't this blatant false advertising? Didn't think UK high street bookies can do such a thing.

Betfair don't have high-street shops, do they?

As to being rogue; what he said:

It's their sheer refusal to do the right thing and sort the mess out for those affected that keeps them rogued.
They actually went as far as taking money directly out of peoples' bank accounts, basically a charge-back. If any of us done that we'd be black listed at all casinos forever more. It may have only been once single incident, but it was just about as appalling as casino practice can possibly get. If they are capable of doing that, they are capable of anything in my opinion.

They COULD have put it right (they're certainly rich enough) - but they chose not to.
We ALL make mistakes (yep - even me ), but we can ALL apologise and try to correct those mistakes.

KK

 

[colinsunderland]

The thing with Betfair being Rogued is - it's just about that ONE, SINGLE legendary bonus fiasco. Otherwise it's not at all a scam operation. And frankly speaking, one's money is 100% safe with Betfair. It's like a bank, probably safer than EU banks. There are many traders and punters who play on Betfair full time. Among punters and traders, it's probably the most trusted operation.

Try telling that to those of use who got hit by the premium charge when they suddenly brought it in, up to 60% commission.
Why do you think the liquidity is so low now, especially on smaller events. I think you will find theres not that many traders on there now, and most the market makers left when it wasn't profitable any more.

 

[lnspin]

They Forgot to mention he was playing on a table game bonus and win was capped at $200.

 

[zanzibar]

Clearly fake, random numbers really your not going to hit a win with odd and even numbers on in high stake roulette. You might hit like £360,000 but not £352,149

The amount in the screenshot is in $. The winner could have been playing with £ or € or some other currency and it is being converted back due to the OP's account currency.

It could be fake, but not for the reason you think it is.

 

[nutnut]

Try telling that to those of use who got hit by the premium charge when they suddenly brought it in, up to 60% commission.
Why do you think the liquidity is so low now, especially on smaller events. I think you will find theres not that many traders on there now, and most the market makers left when it wasn't profitable any more.

The premium charge affects such a tiny amount and the ones it does are traders who hammer the system making hundreds if not thousands of bets to tak tiny profits out of each event.

As for liquidity betfair is as strong as ever, I do not trade personally but use the markets to monitor inside trading and daily the horse racing is trading well over a million per race.

Betfair is by far the only site to gamble on if you're a gambling person. No other site touches it.

 

[colinsunderland]

The premium charge affects such a tiny amount and the ones it does are traders who hammer the system making hundreds if not thousands of bets to tak tiny profits out of each event.

As for liquidity betfair is as strong as ever, I do not trade personally but use the markets to monitor inside trading and daily the horse racing is trading well over a million per race.

Betfair is by far the only site to gamble on if you're a gambling person. No other site touches it.

Well I have to pay it, and I wasn't making that many bets, but was trading. Even so, thats where the liquidity comes from, and theres nowhere near a million per race daily, this is what was traded on a few races before I posted, not one over a million, including in play markets and place markets.

4.10 Ascot (win) Matched: GBP 758,294 (inc in play)
4.10 Ascot (place) Matched: GBP 74,092 (inc in play)
4.15 Gowran Park (win) Matched: GBP 324,765 (inc in play)
4.15 Gowran Park (place) Matched: GBP 53,257 (inc in play)
4.20 Haydock (win) Matched: GBP 540,033
4.20 Haydock (place) Matched: GBP 60,347
4.20 Haydock (win) Matched: GBP 904,331 (inc in play and a photo)
4.20 Haydock (place) Matched: GBP 70,105 (inc in play)
4.30 Wincanton (win) Matched: GBP 475,890
4.30 Wincanton (place) Matched: GBP 66,520

This is on a Saturday afternoon with decent racing, I can assure you they don't get close to these levels on a Monday evening at Chelmsford! 10 years ago a million was traded per race, and you could easily get thousands on the favourite in any race. The place markets are dire now, especially in running, you might get the odd tenner on but I often see horses with less than that available to back, that would never happen before the premium charge.