SERIOUS PROBLEM (please read)

[Mousey]

Please also see this post...

 

[PSB]

Just wondering out loud...is it common place for banks to accept chargebacks for casino deposits? You'd think that banks would decide players are addicted and want to get revenge on the casino.

 

[Casinomeister]

Bryan come no we've had many dealings and do you really believe that we will drop to levels like that...

Relax, Mario. I was only kidding.

 

[kakata]

Just wondering out loud...is it common place for banks to accept chargebacks for casino deposits? You'd think that banks would decide players are addicted and want to get revenge on the casino.

Banks dont think ,,they just follow procedures..............lol

 

[babs7262]

Im not disputing casino deposits hon. They are charges that are the same time and same amount as the casino but for a different kind of company.

Im not sure if a bank would do that if it was a sore loser revenge chargeback, That is wrong and I wouldnt do that. It isnt just GM, I think 2 are involved

 

[lojo]

Sounds like a rogue processor... but no sense speculating onmy end... did you see patticakes post that mousey pointed to in the ecash thread? same biz... but still too early to tell.

Best of luck with it.. you've been lucky to have a cool bank.




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[Nifty29]

Geez Babs - thats sucks!

Isnt it weird that someone elses' Club World deposits show up as the exact same biller name as the transactions on your account?

It might be worth contacting Club World, since they seem to use this processor for some reason and may have a contact that can help you.

Strange days indeed!!

 

[babs7262]

OMG.......

You know what......I got some PM's and took time to carefully look through my deposits to casinos. I am going to publicly list the other 2 because it's not just Grand Mondial processors, This happened when I made deposits to

ClubWorld
Inet Bet
Grand Mondial

The processors of these 3 casinos are up to no good. I encourage the managers of Inet and Club World look into this along with Mario at Grand Mondial and if you need me to send you the "coincidence", please email me and I will be happy to. I am not mad at the casino, I am mad at the processors.....I will gamble but ONLY when I purchase reloadable cards. They should be ashamed of themselves and I know someone else who has vintagevibe charges when they deposited at Inetbet...If they would like to come foward, fine, if not, Im not at liberty to disclose their name. I am out alot of money (and on top of it, no cashouts lol) ....had to throw some humor in , seriously, this isnt right. I am getting back only a portion because I trusted that they were legitimate casino charges. Now we cant go away over Thanksgiving.....Thank you processors!!!!!! Happy Holidays

The ONLY other 2 places I made deposits and it DIDNT happen was

SuperSlots...no problem
3 dice....no problem

AGAIN: the 2 above this line, did NOT take any extra money at the same time of my deposits

 

[lojo]

The warning's out, the wheels are turning. I'm going to suggest this thread be closed so it doesn't become a run-away train. I can do that, I hang out here It's totally up to the Moderators and those affected as to whether this is a good idea.

i have half-baked thoughts on each of my shoulders arguing the merits of this suggestion... better left to those wiser than me; the community, and the moderators, but I'm going to suggest it.

Best of luck.

 

[babs7262]

Thank You Lojo

I should of thought of that! I think that is a good idea because it's not like CW and Inet are gonna publicly say anything. They will do it privately.

I will agree and If I get my money back from the bank, Ill just mention it later

 

[lojo]

You can still edit... but that's up to you

 

[hippo925]

i feel awful that this happened to one of the nicest members here. thank you for warning everyone about this and i hope that the casinos and processors in question will take care of this promptly. please keep us up to date and i would be happy to contribute to the "save bab's thanksgiving day fund" if it becomes necessary. (with all you contribute here, you would deserve it!)

 

[babs7262]

Oh God

Please don't do that. That is so nice and I even got some PM's too. Please, I was just venting and want things done right. I can always go another time. I couldnt and wouldnt accept money for a casino trip when there are so many others much worse off than me not going away for 2 nights. I hope your not insulted but it just wouldnt feel right, it's like Im getting evicted, please don't do this BUT.......((((((((((((((BIG HUGS))))))))))) for the thought. The best gift is to see others not get ripped off, it's bad enough we can't win!

 

[lojo]

wtf?

I was the first to pm you, and i cautioned against publishing this kind of info. I pm'd you immediately after saying i was glad it 'wasn't' gm

This thing has a life of it's own. THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING OR A THEIF, it could have been sorted.

With berny disclosing processes, then you, without, as far as I know, any consultations... the gawds know what would be next I am seriously reconsidering my denizenship here, honestly, wtf!!!

 

[babs7262]

LOJO?

Are you talking to me? Im confused. I dont understand your last post. Unless you are talking to Hippo or a Mod? I dont recall getting a PM.

I agree that it should be closed but was I suppose to edit something on here? I thought you only had an hour



waited as long as I could, Im real tired, we'll chat tomorrow Lojo. Have a good night

 

[peteyweestro]

i just had to dispute a charge for $49.96 from dubai, the company email was cc @ something?i cant remember but my bank gave me my funds the next day and is sending me an afidavit and closed my debit card and sending me a new one

 

[lojo]

Are you talking to me?

Pm's aint all they're cracked up to be. Yes, check your inbox; you replied. I suggested in the first few minutes of this thing that you edit your OP... A lot going on, it's all good. I'm just along for the ride on this one. Bad move in my opinion, but I don't know, I'm a noob here.

 

[spearmaster]

I suspect malware. Have you done a scan with Ad-Aware yet?

 

[Simmo!]

I suspect malware. Have you done a scan with Ad-Aware yet?

Yeah thats a very good point. The fact its happening at 3 casinos might suggest your PC has some sort of phishing virus. It might be worth contacting the record store and seeing what they received. Looking at the site it seems like a hobbyist site and the Whois info is very open, which if they were scamming I'm sure it wouldn't be. Email: Andrew - info@vintagevibez.com - might be worth a shot.

 

[GOCC]

Done a bit of research into the company involved.

The website is run by another company called VASTMILL LTD, owned by someone called Andrew Wilson. The company is based in Northumberland but also listed on another website as County Durham which is near Northumberland.

The telephone number listed on the website is indeed to a US number but the number listed on Whois is for a place in Kilchrenan which is a little village in scotland. There is no Andrew Wilson listed on the electoral roll in Durham and then the site went down for me to check anymore.

The company was formed in November last year and as yet has not filed any company reports.

Now Andrew Wilson states he is the founder of Vintage here Outdated URL (Invalid) and is the Director of Vastmill Ltd so why have the phone routed to the US.

 

[Mousey]

Yeah thats a very good point. The fact its happening at 3 casinos might suggest your PC has some sort of phishing virus. It might be worth contacting the record store and seeing what they received. Looking at the site it seems like a hobbyist site and the Whois info is very open, which if they were scamming I'm sure it wouldn't be......

There is a point that some are missing. Babs lives in the US. It's not easy getting money to or from people in the US... Put it all together please? Now I sound like Lojo... LOL ... if it's malware, why would the 'extra' money be going to a 'real' processor?

Babs have you PMd the Club World rep here? Emailed them copies of your bank statement?

Good luck. Let us know how this ends.

 

[ditzydd]

Hi, I got scammed around this time last year to the tune of $250.00. The same thing was happening as soon as I made a deposit at a particular casino another amount for exactly the same would appear on my statement. Cannot recall the name of the company but it was cc. something. I didn't check my bank daily so was a few days before I realised this had happened. I got straight onto my bank and they investigated and the money was returned to my account. It might have taken 3 months but at least I got my money back.

So hang in there, fill out the forms, give the info to the bank and hopefully the money will be returned to you.

 

[babs7262]

I can't (right now) say one of the names, but lets just say that my account at that casino has already been credited and more reports are being sent to people from casinos that PM'd me. One casino has NOT responded, that is why I pm'd Bryan and asked these casinos to read this

It's not my PC, it's the processors, I know ppl dont want to hear this, I dont either. Im not mad at the casinos, I said that because I dont want the Casino managers to take it personally. It is their processors. Do you really think I think Mario or whoever is "letting" processors do this on purpose, they would accomplish nothing but lose customers and we would lose entertainment. This is for everyone's good. Do you know how many ppl do this in the USA....it's not just casinos

Again, so far it's been verified by one and Im working on the other ones. It is not my PC, I have 2 or 3 protectors and my fraud monitor is always. This computor does everything but make dinner. I scan it everyday. I am even willing to go as far as to copy and paste my whole statement on here so you can see for yourself. It's just my checking account and all you can see is the normal charges any other person will make like phone, cable etc.. There are no account numbers on it, so I am willng to do this and highlight every deposit and everytime someone is doing an unauthorized charge. I gamble at places that say their name

When I play at CW, it say CW, same with Inet and GM, they all say their name on my bank. So you will see it. Infact, I am going to post it because it's my bank statement and I dont want to get accused of being anything other than concerned with others and their money.

Im sorry that reality is hitting so hard, but I am getting too many PM's from other victims that feel "funny" speaking out and I don't mind speaking out because it's the only way to get things done, even if it means getting some people mad.

 

[jenn1381]

hey babs? You don't have to prove anything to anyone other than your bank, and the casino's in question, and perhaps Bryan as he's stepped in to help. If you know it's not malware, good enough! You've got nothing at all to prove to anyone else.

Hope this all gets worked out, scary stuff.

 

[babs7262]

This is just a sample.....just one month or so

11/06/2007 8:07:11 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal vintagevibez +18663986917 -$19.99 X $180.71 Edit 11/06/2007 8:07:11 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal PAYMENT SYSTEMS GM18777993986 -$19.99 X

11/05/2007 9:07:44 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal CLUB WORLD +448701668801 -$20.00 X $324.19 Edit
11/05/2007 9:07:43 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal CLUB WORLD +448701668801 -$20.00 X $344.19 Edit
11/05/2007 9:07:37 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal vintagevibez +18663986917 -$19.99 X $364.19 Edit 11/05/2007 9:07:08 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal WWW.INETBET.COM KENT -$10.00 X $384.18 Edit 11/02/2007 8:07:11 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal vintagevibez +18663986917 -$19.99 X $496.18 Edit
11/02/2007 8:07:11 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal vintagevibez +18663986917 -$19.99 X $516.17 Edit 11/02/2007 8:07:11 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal WWW.INETBET.COM KENT -$15.00 X $536.16 Edit 10/31/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal info@voipvibes.comvoipvibes -$19.99 X $363.61 Edit
10/31/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal PAYMENT SYSTEMS GM18777993986 -$19.99 X 10/29/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal info@voipvibes.comvoipvibes -$19.99 X $448.29 Edit
10/29/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal info@voipvibes.comvoipvibes -$19.99 X $468.28 Edit
10/29/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal info@voipvibes.comvoipvibes -$19.99 X $488.27 Edit
10/29/2007 8:07:10 PM EFT Point Of Sale Withdrawal WWW.INETBET.COM KENT -$15.00 X


I have over 31 pages of this stuff, and as you can see, my bank allows the casino name, so these are unauthorized and I thought I was forgetting to deduct but knew I wasnt at the same time. I had to keep transfering funds from savings because I kept getting overdrawn. It's not my PC, some of them are 3 in one day and I never except on rare occassion deposit twice to one casino in a day unless Im in that mood, but it's not a common thing