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4 of a kind I would guess based on the posts in this thread, no one has a clue about my questions in op.

Maybe we should re-name this thread, "5 Randoms hit by One Player At Same Casino"

What country was this winner from???
Truly sorry 4 of a kind. I really did not mean for your thread (questions) to turn into a debate over the randoms. If someone would be kind enought to remove or break up this thread into two as you sometimes do...it would be most appreciated. And we can use 4 of kinds header if they do not mind "5 Randoms hit by One Player At Same Casino"

Thanks,
Silc
 
Heya,

As has been described in numerous posts, this is not the way RTG random jackpots are won (what you are describing is more akin to a range-based jackpot, which one triggered then determines which player has triggered the event).

With RTG jackpots, at the end of a paid game there is a certain chance of triggering the random jackpot. This chance is proportional to the size of the bet and independent of bets by other players.

This chance is checked after each bet, irrespective of any other player's wager at the time. There is no correlation of play between players, other than that players are playing for and contributing to the same jackpot, which once won will reset to its base level. However, once it has reset it could be won again instantly by the next player placing a bet, there is no range that it must hit in.

And I saw some of those screenies, larger bets will have a comparatively much better chance of hitting a jackpot, and at $10 bets that's roughly a 1 in 30,000 trigger chance at the end of each bet.
Still unlikely to hit 5 in quick succession, hence why it doesn't happen every day, but it does happen.

Woooof

Hi Dogboy,

What you are essentially saying is that the RJ is not triggered by a date or time but each and every bet can trigger this JP. Hence, it follows that the greater the amounts that are bet during a certain period the more likely the RJ will be triggered. So when a casino publicises that a RJ is bursting and will be hit soon it doesnt make too much sense although the publicity could generate more interest and the larger amounts will make it more likely to be triggered than previously.

Well, that's quite interesting and is a fair method imo. Nevertheless, I still think RTG should introduce the non RJ versions of the Real Series slots so that we low rollers can have a higher RTP. Frankly, I dont really think of hitting a RJ but dont want to contribute endlessly to others who do.
 
Nevertheless, I still think RTG should introduce the non RJ versions of the Real Series slots so that we low rollers can have a higher RTP. Frankly, I dont really think of hitting a RJ but dont want to contribute endlessly to others who do.

A-freaking-men to that! I sooooo wish they would do this. :thumbsup:
 
Nevertheless, I still think RTG should introduce the non RJ versions of the Real Series slots so that we low rollers can have a higher RTP. Frankly, I dont really think of hitting a RJ but dont want to contribute endlessly to others who do.

A-freaking-men to that! I sooooo wish they would do this. :thumbsup:

Ditto here!! Like Chuchu, RJ's don't cross my mind. I'd rather just play the game.
 
4) Would it matter at all how many different servers could be used if the software is programmed to segregate RTP based on ones ip address that identifies the country the player is playing from?

I think it has to be done in different ways. There are Casino's, that when you try to download the software, you get the message, "Sorry, your country sucks, and we do not like you, and you can not download our Great Casino". hehehe

and others where you can download the software, but can not create an account as your country is not listed in the, "drop down" box, at account creation page.

and then still others, when you can download it, create an account in it, but have NO deposit options made available for the country you are in.
 
I am not sure what to think about the same player winning 5 RJP in a short period of time to be honest. I know it makes one think, 1 lucky person hits 5 RJP's and I hear so many people saying that they can't get a bonus round to save their life.

I like Inbet, but it does make you wonder.

LH

Could it be because of different servers that this happens? Are US players on different servers from other countries? Is there away to find out?
 
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Well, that's quite interesting and is a fair method imo. Nevertheless, I still think RTG should introduce the non RJ versions of the Real Series slots so that we low rollers can have a higher RTP. Frankly, I dont really think of hitting a RJ but dont want to contribute endlessly to others who do.

Heya,

The difference in RTP is only slightly over 1.3%, but I recognise how frustrating it can be for players that have not hit a random jackpot at all.

I have raised the possibility of non-RJ versions with RTG in the past, and will again.

Woooof
 
Heya,

The difference in RTP is only slightly over 1.3%, but I recognise how frustrating it can be for players that have not hit a random jackpot at all.

I have raised the possibility of non-RJ versions with RTG in the past, and will again.

Woooof

There is a much BETTER case for non RJ versions. MAX CASHOUT RULES. What's the point of contributing to, and playing with a chance of winning, a jackpot you can never keep because you have a "manager's poison chalice" awarded to "reward your loyalty" that month. It is far better to make lose the lot trying to reach a modest target on a non RJ game version than winning your "once in a lifetime" RJ and seeing all but a miserable 10x starting chip taken away from you.
The casinos could even prevent players taking certain bonuses from playing the RJ versions altogether.

As for the original question. YES on all counts, it CAN be done. IF software can be fed a variable that defines the country a player is playing from, it can act upon it, presenting the user a bespoke experience, be that changed RTP, or inclusion/exclusion, or even a different games list.
Online, software can read the incoming IP address, and can then look it up in geo-location tables to get a good guide as to where the client is connecting to the internet from. It's not perfect, and this is why MG banned a few of the wrong players when the intent was merely to lock out Kentucky players a while back. If the geo-location table itself is completely wrong, then using incoming IP address can be worse than useless.
Client software can also read anything available to it from the client machine, and pass it back to it's server, to be acted upon. This can be to determine whether the same PC has in the past been used to register an account, or whether any "undesirable" processes are running (usually this is when poker is being played), that might indicate cheating.
Software can also check it's own configuration on the client machine against a set of benchmarks downloaded from the server. This can ensure the correct version is being used, and detect whether the client has been "hacked", another indication of possible cheating.

Software CANNOT act on onformation it has no access to (although it can make assumptions), software can also be fed FALSE information, which through error or intent, makes it misbehave.

Businesses will NOT do things likely to ruin them (unless they are VERY confident of never being found out). Submitting to independent scrutiny makes it harder to lie to customers, simply because there is a good chance of being found out. Intelligent customers are another way cheats are found out, and thus acts as a deterrent to casinos from implementing practices they cannot justify if exposed without losing the confidence of players.

Rather than mess with RTP between different countries, I expect casinos use targetted promotions. The most obvious being the CD in the post.

It IS also possible to ensure customers from different countries can ONLY see the website specific to their country - again a function of inbound IP address.
 
Dang it, Nash!

Can you not just post in plain old English once in a while??? I swear, either I am completely stupid, or you go out of your way to confuse me. I never "get it"!?!?!

Am I the only one not able to decipher your posts? :p

:thumbsup:
 
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One question I've always had is whether those playing with free or ND money and hit the RJ cause the RJ to reset. If so, I see lots of incentive for the casino/software to manipulate who wins RJs and who doesn't. ????
 

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