New Slot Announcement San Quentin xWays by NoLimitCity 150,000x potential!

[colinsunderland]

yes, over time, 4% house edge.

So 96% of the RTP is allocated to the 5 scatter trigger bonus?
Thats something I've never understood actually.
Say the RTP for a game says 40% base game, 56% Bonus, then how does the bonus buy work in that?

 

[paul7388]

Yeah, bonuses that only return 100-200x means you just lost £360-380 on ONE minimum stake bonus buy.

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You are lucky you can still buy them.

I am sure you could afford the odd one.

I saw the other day you had begun highrolling. Gone are the 9p DOA and you were doing 20p Bonanza spins.

 

[Copperzzz]

Gonna watch some streamers blow their fake life savings on this slot.
Rosh has a raw balance of 380.000, should be enough to take that 150.000x home....
What the hell...

 

[Kroffe]

You are lucky you can still buy them.

I am sure you could afford the odd one.

I saw the other day you had begun highrolling. Gone are the 9p DOA and you were doing 20p Bonanza spins.

I can make about 0.75 5 scatter bonus-buys per month with my budget.
And regarding me highrolling on Bonanza with the 20p spin, thats just how i roll.
Money is just paper yo, and each month i make it rain.

 

[dunover]

So 96% of the RTP is allocated to the 5 scatter trigger bonus?
Thats something I've never understood actually.
Say the RTP for a game says 40% base game, 56% Bonus, then how does the bonus buy work in that?

I'm referring to continually buying it, i.e. so ALL your RTP is via the 5-scatter purchase. The RTP calculation by playing it normally is expected frequency (i.e. 1/250 spins) divided by 100 then times bonus allocation say 25% (of 96 = 24).

So on a 96% slot, with the feature every 250 spins and 25% of the overall RTP allocated to it, you would get a figure of 24x 2.5 i.e. 60x bet average.
The other 249 spins would be expected to pay 180x therefore wins for 250 spins over time should be 240/250 (96%).

Obviously I've used rounded figures, but you get the picture.

 

[colinsunderland]

I'm referring to continually buying it, i.e. so ALL your RTP is via the 5-scatter purchase.

I know, but if only say 56% of the RTP is in the bonus then surely buy constantly buying it you will only get 56% RTP? Or are bonus buy RTP's calculated separately to non bonus buy spins?

 

[dunover]

I know, but if only say 56% of the RTP is in the bonus then surely buy constantly buying it you will only get 56% RTP? Or are bonus buy RTP's calculated separately to non bonus buy spins?

Yes, you quoted me before I edited my reply to expand on it.

But yes, the exclusive bonus-buy will only use a different and specific pool of results where your long-term play (just counted WHEN you used the bonus buy) would come out at the RTP amount specified in the game files, which is usually slightly higher than the theoretical 'flat' RTP gained by playing normally.

Same as those slots which tell you the card gamble pays at 100% over time, as you are pulling from a set of results which have specific options i.e. black and red and your player RTP has been decided and actioned BEFORE these gambles so they don't need to pay any less than 100%.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Hope the base is better than money train 2 which is absolute horse shit.

Can’t get on with any of no limit city slots.

I’ve seen the potential in the bonuses but when you can’t buy them, their games are tedious as fuck, as sod all happens.

Depositing £400 to buy a 20p feature is absolutely ludicrous.

Almost as ludicrous as watching the base game massacre your balance in record time.

Deborah Meaden.

 

[colinsunderland]

Yes, you quoted me before I edited my reply to expand on it.

But yes, the exclusive bonus-buy will only use a different and specific pool of results where your long-term play (just counted WHEN you used the bonus buy) would come out at the RTP amount specified in the game files, which is usually slightly higher than the theoretical 'flat' RTP gained by playing normally.

Same as those slots which tell you the card gamble pays at 100% over time, as you are pulling from a set of results which have specific options i.e. black and red and your player RTP has been decided and actioned BEFORE these gambles so they don't need to pay any less than 100%.

How can they do that though, then the game has to be compensated surely? As bonuses pay more than base game spins (well with the exception of Bonanaza obviously) then I can't get my head round how they can produce the same RTP as the main game without using bonus buys?

 

[geordiecolin]

It is ripping me a new one as I type but I have not yet reached down for the soap

 

[colinsunderland]

10 free spins on it at fun casino, most likely have to have deposited in last 30 days

 

[Playford7]

Utterly abhorrent promoting this, sorry but what next chip with a ‘special’ project x

ffs this BS needs stopping, irresponsible gambling is a massive thing and this alone is just that.

no defence no matter what return your due, your still gambling that x stake every time you choose too.

 

[Scott1baird]

2000x for a bonus buy... That's just pure and utter greed.

 

[colinsunderland]

2000x for a bonus buy... That's just pure and utter greed.

It's no wonder the UKGC banned them. I really don't like having that level of purchase available.

 

[TamingTheBeast]

That's why I really enjoy Extra Chili. The buy starts at 50x and you can grind it down to a comfortable price to buy in and take a chance, even on higher stakes it's doable. This is just ridiculous and at 2000x buy in it just feels irresponsible to promote that kind of stuff. It really turns me off to even try that slot without buying anything at all...

 

[sufferinsilence]

€400 for a 20c min bet 5 scatter buy... That's ridiculous really, who in their right mind would buy this?

I can also see casino's restricting this slot to a €4/5 max bet because of the 150.000x potential, perhaps even lower if you see some casino's have restricted DOA2 to 3.60.

 

[Scott1baird]

I mean think about it, if you could and was still able to buy the bonuses in the UK and you bought the bonus for 2000x your best return will realistically be 75x back.

 

[Scott1baird]

€400 for a 20c min bet 5 scatter buy... That's ridiculous really, who in their right mind would buy this?

I can also see casino's restricting this slot to a €4/5 max bet because of the 150.000x potential, perhaps even lower if you see some casino's have restricted DOA2 to 3.60.

£1.60 max bet at VS

 

[ChopleyIOM]

Ooohhh and VS will be running the lower RTP variant as well, for the final kick in the bollocks.

 

[PMKFRUITPRO]

Videoslots?? Surely not?????

 

[dunover]

How can they do that though, then the game has to be compensated surely? As bonuses pay more than base game spins (well with the exception of Bonanaza obviously) then I can't get my head round how they can produce the same RTP as the main game without using bonus buys?

There is a different pool of outcomes solely for the 5-scatter bonus buy, with a specified RTP. It pays slightly higher than the normal game. In the normal game, very rarely, you would get a 5-scatter trigger and use this pool for the outcome. Long term, the effect on the overall RTP is nothing as the vast majority of the pay back is achieved via base game hits, lower-value features etc.

 

[geordiecolin]

I blew £100 in no time on minimum bets last night with a rtp of probably less than 20%. I got 2 very poor bonuses in that time. Added to that the novelty of the slot soon wore off leaving me bored. I think that I will just cut my losses and run

 

[DreamRJ]

I also tried it and also just did min bets to try it out. I also managed only 3 features in about 1250ish Spins done on it and they all paid below 20X. Base game gave a few 50X wins but only about every 200spins or so.

I think you really need 4 or 5 scatter triggers and then landing scatters during the free spins to get the extra jumping wilds to stand any chance on this slot.

I am glad that the UK have banned bonus buys especially for the fact of no limit slots. They are a joke in terms of how much they cost to buy the super features on their slots. I to agree with others when they say this is very irresponsible behaviour and you really need to stop making them cost this much it is pretty criminal to be honest.

I mean they will justify and say the reason will be that these super features or 5 scatter or on some of the other slots 6 scatter features are basically so rare you have more chance of winning the lottery hence why they cost soo much to buy the super features on them. As they have far greater chances of getting your money back or profit.

They probably test the buy features on them and see what the outcomes are from thousands and thousands of buys of the super features then work out the average won from them and then work out in their eyes a "fair" to them price to buy them. They have to decide do we want to set it at a price that is below or just above the average win from the super features or bang on the average.

But I like the slot. Base game is boring after a while and feature is kinda exciting. But still pretty lame when you never land any scatters to gain those extra jumping wilds. The 3 features I did get on it only ever had 1 jumping wild and not once did I get an extra scatter in any of the 3 features.

I will play it again in the future but I will not be going out of my way and putting all my deposits into it. Again another headline slot that advertises 150,000X similar to peking luck. When in essence the chances of you actually getting anything even close to that is going to be 1 in a billion chance.

 

[dunover]

I see Labowsky bought 2 features for 800 euros or 40c stake, just escaped with a smallish loss.

 

[pinnit2014]

I blew £100 in no time on minimum bets last night with a rtp of probably less than 20%. I got 2 very poor bonuses in that time. Added to that the novelty of the slot soon wore off leaving me bored. I think that I will just cut my losses and run

I gave it 6 sessions, minimum bet, and my RTP was 18-20% each time; at 150kx max wins, probably to be expected.

But still, pretty joyless.

One for the tenner a month punt at best.