Safe amount to win from a casino, without getting banned.

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Hi,

I am thinking of devloping a program that can play an online casino. The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

My question: If I run the program night and day, the casino may eventually go bust and I would almost certainly be banned long before that point. So, what I would like to know is what should the limit be on my profit/week, month or year, from any given casino, without arousing suspicion?

Right now, I'm thinking that if I set myself a limit of 50 profit/week, per casino, this would be enough to not cause any casino to ban me.

Thanks.
 
Hi,

I am thinking of devloping a program that can play an online casino. The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

My question: If I run the program night and day, the casino may eventually go bust and I would almost certainly be banned long before that point. So, what I would like to know is what should the limit be on my profit/week, month or year, from any given casino, without arousing suspicion?

Right now, I'm thinking that if I set myself a limit of 50 profit/week, per casino, this would be enough to not cause any casino to ban me.

Thanks.
Now why would you do such a thing? There are honest people in this forum that would not even consider cheating. I don't think it such a good idea to cheat any casino because peoples hard earned money are in them and you cannot have what you didn't earn..
 
Oh Man, that sure sounds awesome. You must be one savvy guy to be able to come up with such a "system". If I were you I would keep this very close to the vest as to not incite too much notice. You know if something like this gets out, well, it's all over before you get to reap your rewards. :rolleyes:


Good luck to you. I think your bus is coming, better get on now.
 
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Hi,

I am thinking of devloping a program that can play an online casino. The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

My question: If I run the program night and day, the casino may eventually go bust and I would almost certainly be banned long before that point. So, what I would like to know is what should the limit be on my profit/week, month or year, from any given casino, without arousing suspicion?

Right now, I'm thinking that if I set myself a limit of 50 profit/week, per casino, this would be enough to not cause any casino to ban me.

Thanks.

Dont think the casinos would like that one bit, is this like a Bot or something? A bad idea imo, not worth pursuing, borders on cheating in my book:eek:...........laurie
 
The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

This is a Great plan. No one yet knows how much you can make before they catch on to you. You need to protect yourself.

So, instead of developing a program to play the game, it is better to just send me the system, the funds to get started, the target Casino, and I will play/test it for you. After winning as much as Possible, i will let you know how much it was i won before they banned me. Then you will know, and we will all know.

So, the plan now becomes, "To have Love2winalot play a game by himself, and win as much money as possible".

No. No need to thank me.........:rolleyes:
 
Hang on. I was under the impression that Casinos play on their customers' greed and belief that there is a "system" out there that will net them cash? Flat betting. Doubling up on a loss. Doubling on a win. Progressive betting. The Martingale system. These systems are not classified as cheating.

I'm pretty sure that none of you guys here play on casinos to lose money. Or perhaps I'm living in some form of twilight zone where people on this forum actually aim to lose and fill the pockets of casinos.

I havent even started making the software, yet I'm being accused of single handedly bringing down every online casino on the planet. :confused:

This is how casinos normally work: customer comes in, confident that his system will work where all others have failed. He starts placing bets and initially gets some wins. Then as he gets more confident, he places larger bets. His complacency becomes his undoing and over the long term, he usually loses. The customer keeps coming back for more though, as he chases his losses and believes he can win back those losses. This is why most casinos are able to stay in business.

Yet, on this forum, my 1 and only post eminated such confidence in my ability to create a system that would be bring down every casino in the land, that I was advised not to unleash it against the poor casinos. :thumbsup:

Even I dont have that much faith in my own system, yet some of you do. It'll require serious mathematical analysis and only then will it become clear if it is possible to consistently beat a casino at a particular game.

And regards "cheating", what is playing for bonuses? Using bonuses to play blackjack (which also uses a system which minimises the house edge to about 3%) is exactly that. Or is bonus bagging banned on this forum (if it is, I apologise for mentioning it).

There is no such thing as a sure thing and even if you play a bonus, there is a chance that you could totally wipe out before you reach the wager requirement.

Oh and for those who want to buy shares in my program, be patient, once it is ready, rather than use it to win 1000s/week myself, I shall be selling the program for 50 per pop. :p :eek2:
 
This is a Great plan. No one yet knows how much you can make before they catch on to you. You need to protect yourself.

So, instead of developing a program to play the game, it is better to just send me the system, the funds to get started, the target Casino, and I will play/test it for you.

:lolup:

Erm. You want me to do all the hard work, then send you the money. I feel that I'm not getting a good deal here.

Here's an idea: why don't I write down my (golden) system on a piece of paper, scan it and email it to you, for a good price? :p
 
You are not talking about a system to beat the casino, but a program, or a bot. Most casinos ban bot play.

If you are a truly unscrupulous person, develop your bot, don't even bother playing it but sell it to the unsuspecting. Then not your problem when they are denied winnings and banned.

You would not be the the first.
 
Systems work. Just look at Las Vegas, it's been run into the ground by smart gamblers with a sure-fire betting strategy.

Bottom line:

Bet red, bet black, double down on 16 if you put your undies on left foot first this morning, bet player if the dealer has huge boobs, let it ride, don't let it ride, press your bet while wearing a manzier, fold a soft 20 if you're wearing a protective cup, lay a hundo after banker has won thrice in a row.

None of it matters, not even one ounce. Sytems are for dullards & cretins.

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Hang on. I was under the impression that Casinos play on their customers' greed and belief that there is a "system" out there that will net them cash? Flat betting. Doubling up on a loss. Doubling on a win. Progressive betting. The Martingale system. These systems are not classified as cheating.
You are correct:thumbsup:....They are actually classified as "How To Lose Your Shirt"

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Please accept my apologies for stopping after the first paragraph of your post as gambling fallacies:lolsign::lolsign:
 
Hiya: I did not get the scan from you yet????

OK, to be Fair, here is why people are bashing you. Look at what you posted as a Lower Win Goal per week. Then you added, "per casino". This can only mean you plan on playing at several Casino's at the same time, or have something set up, to reach the win goal at casino xxxx, log out of it, and log into casino zzzz, and so on. Is this correct?

Otherwise, why make a BOT at all? The program will only do what you tell/code it to do. So, why not just play normally, with your system, with you at the PC, and eliminate the possibility of getting banned for using a BOT altogethter?

The actual answer to your question of, "How much can i win before being banned"? is, "AS MUCH AS YOU WANT". Now, if this means using a BOT, or Taking every Bonus offer under the sun, meeting Play Thru Requirements, and cashing out 30 seconds later, never actually putting any of your money at risk, having multiple accounts, and so on............Then the answer becomes, "You get to Win Nothing".

It even sounds like you have not played at all? Otherwise, your post should say, "Hi, I am up over $10,000 net profit at Casino xxxxx, how much more should i try to make before cashing out? "insert screen shot of $10,000 here".

Do that, and everyone will be praising you, instead of bashing you, and you would get better answers to your question.

PS: This was taken over 4 years ago. So, yes, even without cheating, it is possible to get banned. I was told i was playing, "in a professional manner", and not for entertainment. I was even an Affiliate for them...

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I havent even started making the software, yet I'm being accused of single handedly bringing down every online casino on the planet. :confused:

This is how casinos normally work:

Yet, on this forum, my 1 and only post eminated such confidence in my ability to create a system that would be bring down every casino in the land, that I was advised not to unleash it against the poor casinos. :thumbsup:

:D I realize that I may have taken a long nap this evening but did I actually wake up in the "Twilight Zone" here..:p

Newbie Poster here huh...:) I am actually surprised this thread has ran the length that it has..:thumbsup:

Keep it coming Swede, love it brother...;):D
 
Hang on. I was under the impression that Casinos play on their customers' greed and belief that there is a "system" out there that will net them cash? Flat betting. Doubling up on a loss. Doubling on a win. Progressive betting. The Martingale system. These systems are not classified as cheating.

They do play on customers greed to a certain extent but that's business, for e.g if i owned a shoe shop and someone decided to be greedy and buy all the shoes in the shop do you seriously think i am going to complain??...of course not, like i said that's business and casinos ultimately are a business plain and simple.

Your also right these systems are not classified as cheating because you can't win in the long run with these systems and these systems are usually being played by players not by computers, in other words not by bots.

I'm pretty sure that none of you guys here play on casinos to lose money. Or perhaps I'm living in some form of twilight zone where people on this forum actually aim to lose and fill the pockets of casinos.

No of course we don't all play at/on casinos to lose money but we realize that sometimes you will lose money and if that is the cost of entertainment and the chance to win some money then so be it.

I havent even started making the software, yet I'm being accused of single handedly bringing down every online casino on the planet. :confused:

Your not being accused of bringing down the casino as that's not going to happen as sooner or later your going to get caught out and your winnings confiscated. You might make a small little amount of money to begin with but the casinos will catch on and when they do you will know and soon you want be able to play at any online casino.

Let me get one thing straight...You haven't even started making the software yet you are already trying to figure out how much you can make?Hmmm now who's the greedy one?

I mean seriously all we are trying to do here is make you understand that this is a bad way to make money and isn't going to work in the long run (if at all) but if you are seriously considering on doing this then i suggest getting a program that actually works before thinking about how much profit your going to make (once again won't be very much when the casinos catch on which they will trust me as they have departments dedicated to this sort of stuff).

This is how casinos normally work: customer comes in, confident that his system will work where all others have failed. He starts placing bets and initially gets some wins. Then as he gets more confident, he places larger bets. His complacency becomes his undoing and over the long term, he usually loses. The customer keeps coming back for more though, as he chases his losses and believes he can win back those losses. This is why most casinos are able to stay in business.

Yeah but this isn't what your are planning on doing. As in your first post your plan is to get a computer to do it for you which takes out the whole human element. It is cheating, plain and simple i mean seriously do you think you could get away with the same thing in Vegas?Just walk in to the MGM sit down a computer and tell them the bot you just created is going to play for you??? You want even get through the front door and if you do you will get at least 5 years in a federal penitentiary. Now that won't happen if you do it online but it's the same principle as it is still cheating plain and simple and instead you will get your accounts banned and funds not already withdrawn confiscated and you will soon won't be able to play at any reputable casino. As for the rogue casinos well even if you played fair you still probably wouldn't get paid so you got no chance if your using a bot.

Yet, on this forum, my 1 and only post eminated such confidence in my ability to create a system that would be bring down every casino in the land, that I was advised not to unleash it against the poor casinos. :thumbsup:

No your first post didn't say you were creating a "system" but instead a "program". There is a distinct difference. Your first post basically said i want to create a computer to play for me and how much can i get before i get banned. You obviously therefore know you are not allowed to do such a thing yet you have come onto a forum full of Online Casino Representatives (some very high ranking ones) and told the world your intentions.

Even I dont have that much faith in my own system, yet some of you do. It'll require serious mathematical analysis and only then will it become clear if it is possible to consistently beat a casino at a particular game.

Serious mathematical analysis has already been done on all games (and you would know that if you had bothered to do some research) and there is currently only two games that you can beat in the long run using a strategy in the right playing conditions and that is Blackjack (i know but i will let you figure out how although my only tip is that it can only be done in live games in certain conditions, this shouldn't be too hard to work out then just do some research on it) and all forms of Poker like Texas Hold'em, Omaha, 7 Card Stud and so forth. I suggest you look at the Wizard of Odds website.

And regards "cheating", what is playing for bonuses? Using bonuses to play blackjack (which also uses a system which minimises the house edge to about 3%) is exactly that. Or is bonus bagging banned on this forum (if it is, I apologise for mentioning it).

Playing for bonuses isn't cheating, the casinos don't like it but it's not cheating. I think you need to brush up on your definition of cheating. I think you should also read the main Casinomeister website and educate yourself a little as i think you need a bit.

There is no such thing as a sure thing and even if you play a bonus, there is a chance that you could totally wipe out before you reach the wager requirement.

DUH! Once again as i mentioned in a previous thread, it's called gambling!!! Anyways i don't know anyone who thinks if they get a bonus they are guaranteed to win. A bonus is basically the Online casinos giving you a reason to deposit and play at their casino and give them a try as they can't give you free food or free drinks they will give you free money (as in a "bonus") to make up for this. It is also used to entice players back to a casino they may have forgot, give them extra playing time or as a loyalty reward.

Oh and for those who want to buy shares in my program, be patient, once it is ready, rather than use it to win 1000s/week myself, I shall be selling the program for 50 per pop. :p :eek2:

I am sure we will be waiting an awful long time and even if you do come up with something that works why sell it at 50 a pop, why not keep it secret anyways if you did sell it you would be just joining a long line of other people trying to sell programs claiming to make $1000s/week when in reality they don't work at all or end up getting all your accounts locked which like i said will happen and basically no there is no amount you can win using these programs that will avoid suspicion.

Anyways good luck you will need it :p :)
 
Do threads like this one linger here just for the entertainment value??? The op kid with no job is obviously putting a fantasy on paper. The responses are even more funnier/pathetic.
 
actually the micro gaming platform offers this robotic play for free

it's called expert play and they show you the stats , so got a deposite on and fly :)

also other casino/s offer the same i just think M G 's is more sophisticated :noteworthy:noteworthy
 
Surely the OP is just teasing and sharing a joke. He/She knows that a rinky dink system would be spotted and analysised moments after a large withdraw.

It must of occurred to the OP that if a system was possible it would of already been created and used, and that the questionable coding born from a coffee stained and muffin crumbed keyboard residing in a bedsit in Ipswich is not going to cause the massively funded security departments of online casinos too much bother.
 
Hi,

I am thinking of devloping a program that can play an online casino. The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

My question: If I run the program night and day, the casino may eventually go bust and I would almost certainly be banned long before that point. So, what I would like to know is what should the limit be on my profit/week, month or year, from any given casino, without arousing suspicion?

Right now, I'm thinking that if I set myself a limit of 50 profit/week, per casino, this would be enough to not cause any casino to ban me.

Thanks.

To give a serious answer you would need to play at the biggest groups, the names you are familiar with when walking down a UK high street.

But can you please spare the Tote as I do like doing the Scoop Six on a Saturday.

Betfair are a very good company and have a Zero lounge so would be a good choice to start with.
 
To give a serious answer you would need to play at the biggest groups, the names you are familiar with when walking down a UK high street.

But can you please spare the Tote as I do like doing the Scoop Six on a Saturday.

Betfair are a very good company and have a Zero lounge so would be a good choice to start with.

The bigger the casino the bigger the security department which means more chances of getting caught out quick however on the other hand if you go to a small casino they might not be able to pay or are going to be paranoid about this sort of thing so will check out most withdrawals to make sure bots are not being used.

So basically just focusing on the biggest casinos or smallest casinos isn't going to make a difference. Either way if you use a bot your screwed.

I mean sure the OP can aim for $50 a day or week or whatever and he might get away for it a bit longer then normal but the minute he hits withdrawal he will run into problems.

Like i said if you use a bot you might get away with it for a little while but i guarantee it will come back to haunt him/her because you will get caught.
 
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allso betfair does allow bots that auto bet to your standards for the betting exchange ... but as for their casino or casinos i dont think so
 
I have the exact same question as the title of the OP: "Safe amount to win from a casino, without getting banned."

I am a Professional Sports Bettor and have been having some success with table games online. I try to stay under the radar, especially in Sports Betting with the online books, however I am concerned about winning on the gambling side. I was thinking of $500 per month per online casino would keep me at a low profile, but my question really is do you think that is too low of a number or too high?

Please, if you have experience winning or gambling is you main profession I would like to hear your thoughts on this....

Thanks and Best of Luck
 
I was thinking of $500 per month per online casino would keep me at a low profile, but my question really is do you think that is too low of a number or too high?


I would stay at $345.00 per casino, per month. Also I would not go over 15 different casinos at one time. Make sure the different casinos are not from the same group. They might share player information and catch on to you. After every couple of months I would also mix it up a little, like stop playing at a few and add some new ones. Actually I think you would still be safe at $392.50
 
I would stay at $345.00 per casino, per month. Also I would not go over 15 different casinos at one time. Make sure the different casinos are not from the same group. They might share player information and catch on to you. After every couple of months I would also mix it up a little, like stop playing at a few and add some new ones.

Thank you very much :thumbsup:

What about live online casino's, like Bet Phoenix with its "live" Baccarat? Would they be able to handle more, do you think, or should I just try and control myself? ;)
 
Thank you very much :thumbsup:

What about live online casino's, like Bet Phoenix with its "live" Baccarat? Would they be able to handle more, do you think, or should I just try and control myself? ;)


By all means try and control yourself. You saw what happened at absolute, and UB. Would hate to be reading about you.
Which games are you playing, or it don't matter? I also understand if you want to keep this your secret.
 
come on

Hi,

I am thinking of devloping a program that can play an online casino. The plan is to have it play a game by itself and win as much money as possible.

My question: If I run the program night and day, the casino may eventually go bust and I would almost certainly be banned long before that point. So, what I would like to know is what should the limit be on my profit/week, month or year, from any given casino, without arousing suspicion?

Right now, I'm thinking that if I set myself a limit of 50 profit/week, per casino, this would be enough to not cause any casino to ban me.

Thanks.
Are u having a laugh? This aint what the site is for and as much as i like to see casinos/bookies taking a spanking it should be done by the book and if there is a way to "cheat" then you will get caught by the ever watchful security especially now when almost all of them look at this site!!!!! Anyway if you do work it out give me a shout as it will be good to see.....lol
 

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