Rushmore Randoms

[takethemoney]

The only way to know for sure is sit on the machine for a month straight to see it's jackpot cycles, then compare that against what the casino posts.

 

[Louise]

Hi everyone,

Apologies for the slight delay in my response.

As I have just posted in the other thread:

Concerning these questions, I could get all of this information and would love to answer your questions, however, I can't. The player has terms and conditions that s/he has to adhere to, and we do also. On our side, one of these conditions is that we will not report to any third parties about the player's wagering or personal information, of which most of these questions would be a problem in answering.

This is not an excuse for trying to avoid answering and giving more information - I simply don't want us to break these conditions and possibly get us in trouble for it.

I have gathered and am providing the most information I can about the 4 RJs and 4 players in question.

Pay Dirt
Date RJ hit: 2/05/2010 - Win amount: $45840
Date RJ hit: 15/05/2010 - Win amount: $33602.20

Robertas Castle
Date RJ hit: 4/05/2010 - Win amount: $27017.18
Date RJ hit: 9/05/2010 - Win amount: $28319.65

In no particular order, one of these players is a recently new player with us who has played 16,500 Real-Series Video Slot games to date, another is an Executive VIP member with us and the final two are Presidential VIP members.

I can confirm that none of these players were on a max-cashout bonus, so all of the RJ winnings that were hit were withdrawable from the casino.

Sorry I can't provide more information, but can assure again, that I have personally looked at these casino accounts and can see these wins and all account history such as how much was withdrawn from the casino etc etc.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[maphesto]

Thanks for your answer Louise.

Still, the most important questions remains.

Robertas Castle
Date RJ hit: 4/05/2010 - Win amount: $27017.18
Date RJ hit: 9/05/2010 - Win amount: $28319.65

From 4/05/2010 to 9/05/2010(4 days ) Robertas Castle RJ amount had increased from 5000$ to 28319$ and from 9/05/2010 to today(16 days) it has only increased from 5000$ to 11000$.

How is this possible?

I am happy that you have given us the answer about the dates, I am.
But it seems impossible to have those amounts in a few days. At none of the machines the RJ amount has increased even nearly that much after we started to follow them.

When I started to write in this thread I just knew that the only explanation(because Rushmore is a thrustworthy casino ) was a max cashout and the money was put back up.

Frankly, I don't know what to believe now since the amounts and dates for me clearly is too strange.

You don't have to respond to this Louise, I am just explaining my thoughts.

Edit to add: I still think of Rushmore group as a reputable group. I trust them as much now as before. Just the dates and the amounts...

 

[Louise]

Hi maphesto,

You are welcome

I can only really say that this is how much the RJs increased by and that alongside this, Rushmore is our oldest casino brand of which we have a very large amount of players playing on a daily basis from new players to long-term VIP players - As you all know, the RJ amounts increase according to how much is wagered on the machines, so this is why an RJ can increase a lot in just the space of a few days.

Regards,

Louise
Rushmore, Cherry Red & Slots Oasis Rep.

 

[lots0]

I would also like to add (again) that Rushmore gets more than enough traffic and has more than enough players to justify these type of jackpots.

 

[darkpixie]

Holy cow!

Monday, May 24, 2010 $3,544 Aztec's Treasure Carol W. USA
Monday, May 24, 2010 $2,808 Aztec's Treasure Carol W. USA
Sunday, May 23, 2010 $30,900 Aztec's Treasure Wayne A. USA

I just logged into the Casino and the random is right back up to $34,587.15

That is from $2000 to $30,900 in less than three days and then AGAIN from $2000 to $34587.15 in less than 24 hours

 

[lots0]

Holy cow!

Monday, May 24, 2010 $3,544 Aztec's Treasure Carol W. USA
Monday, May 24, 2010 $2,808 Aztec's Treasure Carol W. USA
Sunday, May 23, 2010 $30,900 Aztec's Treasure Wayne A. USA

I just logged into the Casino and the random is right back up to $34,587.15

That is from $2000 to $30,900 in less than three days and then AGAIN from $2000 to $34587.15 in less than 24 hours

WAAAAYY COOL...

Bigger jackpots are BETTER!!!!

 

[darkpixie]

Sure they are, as long as your name is Wayne A. or Sharon T.

 

[lots0]

Sure they are, as long as your name is Wayne A. or Sharon T.

Or any of the other MANY Happy winners....

Don't you think that higher jackpots attract more players wanting to hit the BIG ONE?

More players... Even Bigger Jackpots!!! EVEN BETTER!!!

 

[maphesto]

I couldn't resist to go there and deposit 25$. I thought, how hard can it be to hit that RJ?

Well, I didn't hit that RJ but I won 30$ on free spins on my 0.20$ bet.

Played it down to 50 bucks and I am now printing my faxback to cash out the huge sum of 50$. Thanks for the tip!

Back to topic:

How can this happen?

I will soon believe that there is a special santa coming to Rushmore and puts money in the RJ fund.

 

[darkpixie]

Like flies on sh*t...

 

[Deeplay]

well credit where credit is due. Lousie did come on and answer. And as Rjs do go up depending on how much is pumped into the slot then sure they could climb really high really fast. E.g 2 or 3 or 4 people hitting max bet over a stack of spins as well as regular players. Its not beyond reason.

My only doubt that came to mind is why a high rollers who deposit 1000s in a session would play at any casino with a max weekly withdraw limit. But then maybe President VPs get different cash out terms. Anyway in my book good to see a rep at least responding. Kudos

 

[lots0]

How can this happen?

It's been explained ad nauseum.

If you just don't believe that RUSHMORE has the players to justify these kinds of jackpots... then you should play somewhere else.

But as there is no evidence whatsoever of the assertion that Rushmore is "makeing this up", then drop it, till you have more evidence than just the promo feed from the casino... and the misinformation and inunedo that is being spread here by one or two folks.

No one has questioned the fact that takethemoney had his name come up, three times, in what, one or two days??? And he got paid... although he seems not to be all that happy about it.

I really am getting tired of these unjustified backhanded attacks at Rushmore's credibility.

 

[maxd]

Well said and about bloody time someone added their voice to Nifty's calls for reason.

 

[darkpixie]

I have absolutely nothing to gain from bringing this to light, whatsoever. I think I have more than proven this fact. I have no personal vendetta against this group of casinos either. So I am not doing any of this out of spite. I have accounts at Cherry Red and Rushmore only recently so that I can log on and see the wacky Jackpots in action. I have never deposited or used a free chip at this group of casinos to the best of my recollection. I do not own a casino, work for a casino or currently run any kind of gambling affiliated website, I ran a Horror Movie fansite once back in 2002 which I have offered for you to PM me for the link as I don't see it being kosher to post it here. But you have not.

I also have no personal vendetta against any Rushmore affiliate. Yourself and Nifty29 included.

The readership needs to keep in mind that the 2 main adversaries of this topic are affiliates for Rushmore group who continue to ask for proof why we think something is not right with the Rushmore Group RJ's, so we provide it, like my previous screen shot post, and 2 Rushmore affiliates jump on it and try to kill the thread.

If you do not like the proof that gets posted here or the discussion that arises than you are welcome to take leave of the thread.

I don't think I need to say much more than that.

 

[maxd]

... 2 Rushmore affiliates jump on it and try to kill the thread.

Bosh! They're calling for a little sanity. Hardly anyone trying to "kill the thread". In fact I dare say their contributions are a little more constructive than content-free posts such as "Like flies on sh*t..."

 

[darkpixie]

I apologize if my comment

Like flies on sh*t

was out of line, it was a little knee jerk humor in response to:

WAAAAYY COOL...

Bigger jackpots are BETTER!!!!

I will try to have less fun in the future

 

[lots0]

Darkpixie you have not provided one single shred of evidence to support your unjustified accusations.

ALL you have done is provide innuendo and accusations.

You question my motives? How dare you.
I have made my position clear from my very first post in this thread. Unlike you.

I still wonder why someone like you, that never played at Rushmore just decides out of the blue to pursue this reputable casino with innuendo and unjustified accusations.

Is it just me or is Darkpixie acting just like a shill, paid to trash a good casino?
Maybe some IP checking is in order???

Also like to point out Max is NOT an affilaite... and most likely the best independant judge of a casinos character on this particular thread.

 

[darkpixie]

I'm not a shill, I've posted my reasons for giving a crap about this a couple of times already so I am not about to repeat myself.

 

[Deeplay]

I apologize if my comment was out of line, it was a little knee jerk humor in response to:




I will try to have less fun in the future

To be honest its getting boring now the rep for this casino has answered you either belive it or dont belive it. And as another voice said if you dont then move on. Its starting to sound like its your mission in life ...

 

[maxd]

I will try to have less fun in the future

And exactly what function is served by trying to make it sound like I was in some way restricting your "fun"? You said yourself it was "out of line", so how is that just a little "fun"?

Trying to turn every little thing that is said in disagreement to you into a personal attack or slight is exactly that reason that I think you do have an agenda here: you seem to enjoy being in the middle of the shit, even if you have to create it. I for one am not particuarly enjoying your special talents in this regard.

I suggest you might want to chill a bit.

 

[darkpixie]

I didn't say I thought I was out of line I said:

I apologize if my comment

etc. etc.

Not trying to argue here, just setting the record straight that I was simply poking fun at the whole damned thing.

Again I am not a shill and I have no self serving agenda. I'll be happy to provide maxd or CM with any private information about myself you like to prove it.

I just feel strongly that these jackpot amounts need a closer look. I have never accused Rushmore of cheating. For all we know their feeds are buggy and the data that is getting posted is entirely wrong. I get asked by the affiliates to show proof. I find as much tangible evidence as I have access to, and I get attacked. ($34K built up in 24 Hours? Really?)

I agree we are all just going in circles and its very frustrating.

I'll be happy to provide more Jackpot amounts and wins that are totally off the wall like the Aztec one, but in the interest of keeping this thread to a more mellow tone I will no longer engage in banter with those who chose to attack me just because I have a different opinion.

 

[lots0]

I vote for this and the cherry red thread to be closed.

if there is ever any REAL evidence of these accsuations... a new thread would be in order.

 

[RedAndi]

The readership needs to keep in mind that the 2 main adversaries of this topic are affiliates for Rushmore group who continue to ask for proof why we think something is not right with the Rushmore Group RJ's, so we provide it, like my previous screen shot post, and 2 Rushmore affiliates jump on it and try to kill the thread.

Thank you.
I was about to post asking why Losto was so insulted about this and the Cherry thread, it seemed like he was being personally attacked and I wasn't seeing it....OK now I get it.
Not taking any sides (I am not a depositing member or either place), just thought the subject was interesting.

 

[takethemoney]

It's been explained ad nauseum.

If you just don't believe that RUSHMORE has the players to justify these kinds of jackpots... then you should play somewhere else.

But as there is no evidence whatsoever of the assertion that Rushmore is "makeing this up", then drop it, till you have more evidence than just the promo feed from the casino... and the misinformation and inunedo that is being spread here by one or two folks.

No one has questioned the fact that takethemoney had his name come up, three times, in what, one or two days??? And he got paid... although he seems not to be all that happy about it.

I really am getting tired of these unjustified backhanded attacks at Rushmore's credibility.

I was ecstatic about those wins. I had never had that kind of luck in my life. The not happy part came in when I could not get that money locked away in some kind of non reversible status. $4000 per week is 10 weekly installments and as a gambler, it was found impossible not to succumb to the temptation to reverse some of it. I kept about $24,000 out of over $40,000. The most paramount thing that soured me on the casino is the very decided tightness that occurred after I won the last random and the continued tightness into the first couple months of this year. Just brutal, brutal sessions that really made me feel the games had been turned off for me, to the point where I just requested the accounts be closed. I've had time to reflect since then, and the bottom line is I got overwhelmed by that amount of money and didn't do a very good job of controlling self. Still, however, my results did not change over several (70) sessions this year at RTG casinos, leading me to have suspicions and quit playing them.

 

[lots0]

takethemoney... my point is that you did get paid and your name did appear on those lists from the casino of winners... Correct?
I understand the feelings after the win, but thats a different issue. The point is... you won, you got paid and your name was on that list more than once in 48 hours.

Thank you.
I was about to post asking why Losto was so insulted about this and the Cherry thread, it seemed like he was being personally attacked and I wasn't seeing it....OK now I get it.
Not taking any sides (I am not a depositing member or either place), just thought the subject was interesting.

Ok, so I have to defend myself from Darkpixie's innuendo attacks as well.

Here is just what I posted in the other thread about this.

I know that many on here are watching this thread but not jumping in to state their opinions for fear of the backlash myself and a few others are receiving from just one or two members on here.

Oh thats total Bull...

I been around here a long time... Been on both sides, many times.
People know they can talk to me and get HONEST answers and HONEST feedback... without getting personally attacked. Same thing goes for Nifty.

There are even some folks here that don't like me much and love to argue with me when they think I'm wrong... but they are not showing up here.

You don't want to discuss facts... You seem hell bent on trashing this casino for no good reason... in the face of every reasonable argument.

Every single one of your two 'talking points' has been repeatedly discredited.. yet you persist in these backhanded innuendo attacks.

enough already...

RedAndi - I would also like to point out that I made my position clear, that I am an affiliate of Rushmore and that I trust them in my very first post...in these threads. I am not hiding anything. The idea that darkpixie has 'exposed' me or called me out is just one more attack by innuendo from her.

 

[takethemoney]

Lots0, you are correct. Yes, I can validate that those jackpots were very much real and that I won them and got paid.

 

[PaaskeDenmark]

To be honest its getting boring now the rep for this casino has answered you either belive it or dont belive it. And as another voice said if you dont then move on. Its starting to sound like its your mission in life ...

Well Said !!!


Remember folks its all RANDOM....dont forget that!!
Red can come out 117 times in a row on the roulette.....stats or not.... If 100 players deposit at a casino and they pay is 96%, then 4 will loose their money each time on average... who says YOU cant be the one being very unlucky depost after each deposit????

Just to try and put an end to all players complaining about ive deposited this and this and not won.... I have been one of those players complaining a lot why i havent won etc... But had enough now, also reading so many posts here about isues like this.

If You dont like to loose then DONT play, simple as that.


Just to put my opinion to right, i cant really see why we have ended up getting a giant thread like this only concerning random jackpots?
If i play at a casino, i never think oh a lot of players has won many jackpots here, that that then makes my chances bigger of the big win.
Yes i hope winning a random jackpot etc...the same in regards to casinos where no one seems to be able to win.... who says that people winning are just not, here in this forum?
Just when i think back when i used to go to real casinos.....most times it was always horrible for me, looking around seing people winning big on slots, but every time i brought my big wallet with me full of money, all the money just got eaten up time after time I think that is the same feeling a lot of us gets, when we have the bad run at a casino.
But in the bottom end, its prob quite fair anyway.....All the accredited casinos gets checked all the time.
Sorry guys just my bottom cents to at least give all the REPs in here a fair chance in their work as well. Ive had enough of complaining. Just ask poor Lock Casino about that HEHE....

Sorry ill try re edit my post later might be to hard to understand my danish both serious and funny ironic way, cant help im a dane hehe

 

[all4greed]

RJ's continued

Well Said !!!
Remember folks its all RANDOM....dont forget that!!

Yes indeed it is supposed to be. But when you see randoms going off quickly within days, for large amounts, and won by the same person it should raise an eyebrow.

Red can come out 117 times in a row on the roulette.....stats or not.... If 100 players deposit at a casino and they pay is 96%, then 4 will loose their money each time on average... who says YOU cant be the one being very unlucky depost after each deposit????

If red came out 117 times in a row in an ONLINE CASINO, people would be screaming, well not everyone. Can it happen? Sure, I guess. But again it should raise an eyebrow.

Just to try and put an end to all players complaining about ive deposited this and this and not won.... I have been one of those players complaining a lot why i havent won etc... But had enough now, also reading so many posts here about isues like this.

Not the issue. See my first paragraph.

Just to put my opinion to right, i cant really see why we have ended up getting a giant thread like this only concerning random jackpots?
If i play at a casino, i never think oh a lot of players has won many jackpots here, that that then makes my chances bigger of the big win.
Yes i hope winning a random jackpot etc...the same in regards to casinos where no one seems to be able to win.... who says that people winning are just not, here in this forum?

See my first paragraph.

...But in the bottom end, its prob quite fair anyway.....All the accredited casinos gets checked all the time.

By who? Don't forget accredited casinos get tossed out every now and then. I'm not saying this is the case with the Rushmore group!

Sorry guys just my bottom cents to at least give all the REPs in here a fair chance in their work as well. Ive had enough of complaining. Just ask poor Lock Casino about that HEHE....

Some of us have more questions than others. Louise has in no way been disrespected.

Sorry ill try re edit my post later might be to hard to understand my danish both serious and funny ironic way, cant help im a dane hehe

I appreciate your post.

 

[lots0]

Yes indeed it is supposed to be. But when you see randoms going off quickly within days, for large amounts, and won by the same person it should raise an eyebrow.

Why? it has happened to people here... and been verifyed by many.

If red came out 117 times in a row in an ONLINE CASINO, people would be screaming, well not everyone. Can it happen? Sure, I guess. But again it should raise an eyebrow.

Why? If it is mathmatically possible.

You keep questioning mathmatics??? Why?

I personally find the fact that someone wins the powerball many times a year rather far fetched with the odds they give... but it happens.

 

[XOXOXOXOXOX]

Remember folks its all RANDOM....dont forget that!!

said who??

 

[jod5413]

takethemoney... my point is that you did get paid and your name did appear on those lists from the casino of winners... Correct?
I understand the feelings after the win, but thats a different issue. The point is... you won, you got paid and your name was on that list more than once in 48 hours.

That is really amazing! Take The Money actually hit random jackpots and got paid! Oh wait, I think that is the way it is supposed to be. Oh yeah, unless it is a rogue casino.


Ok, so I have to defend myself from Darkpixie's innuendo attacks as well.

No. Lotso, you do NOT have to defend yourself. Anyone who has been around a while knows you are a straight shooter, and would never affiliate yourself with a rogue casino.


Here is just what I posted in the other thread about this.

RedAndi - I would also like to point out that I made my position clear, that I am an affiliate of Rushmore and that I trust them in my very first post...in these threads. I am not hiding anything. The idea that darkpixie has 'exposed' me or called me out is just one more attack by innuendo from her.

Well Said !!!


Remember folks its all RANDOM....dont forget that!!
Red can come out 117 times in a row on the roulette.....stats or not.... If 100 players deposit at a casino and they pay is 96%, then 4 will loose their money each time on average... who says YOU cant be the one being very unlucky depost after each deposit????

Just to try and put an end to all players complaining about ive deposited this and this and not won.... I have been one of those players complaining a lot why i havent won etc... But had enough now, also reading so many posts here about isues like this.

If You dont like to loose then DONT play, simple as that.


Just to put my opinion to right, i cant really see why we have ended up getting a giant thread like this only concerning random jackpots?
If i play at a casino, i never think oh a lot of players has won many jackpots here, that that then makes my chances bigger of the big win.
Yes i hope winning a random jackpot etc...the same in regards to casinos where no one seems to be able to win.... who says that people winning are just not, here in this forum?
Just when i think back when i used to go to real casinos.....most times it was always horrible for me, looking around seing people winning big on slots, but every time i brought my big wallet with me full of money, all the money just got eaten up time after time I think that is the same feeling a lot of us gets, when we have the bad run at a casino.
But in the bottom end, its prob quite fair anyway.....All the accredited casinos gets checked all the time.
Sorry guys just my bottom cents to at least give all the REPs in here a fair chance in their work as well. Ive had enough of complaining. Just ask poor Lock Casino about that HEHE....

Sorry ill try re edit my post later might be to hard to understand my danish both serious and funny ironic way, cant help im a dane hehe

Your post is fine as is, PaaskeDKnowUK. More than fine, it is quite honest. And reflects how the majority of on line players feel when playing at their favorite "accredited casino.

 

[darkpixie]

Posted here at the request of a couple members and deleted from Cherry Red Thread..

Since noon (PST) the following randoms were hit at Rushmore, below are screen shots of the RJ amounts as of this posting. That is just over 5 hours.

If they are treating their RJ's differently somehow, I really wish someone would come on the boards and explain how they work.

Tuesday, May 25, 2010 $2,755 Triple Twister Robert S. USA
Tuesday, May 25, 2010 $2,714 Paydirt! Shelly S. USA

Personally I don't think this topic is any different than the Gambling Wages (which I found really dull and thus did not contribute or read much because that Rogue group is old news as far as I am concerned) topic or the are slots really random topic. If final resolution is met, I am sure we can start an announcement thread so those who don't wish to participate in this thread and the Cherry Red thread can simply ignore it.

Would be great to have the threads merged though, seems silly to have two.

 

[takethemoney]

It's amazing that both slots hit today and within hours were back up that high! So, is it possible that there is more than one Paydirt and Triple Twister slot at Rushmore, depending on when you log in, determines which slot you see with that particular slot's progressive?

 

[darkpixie]

I've been wondering the same, like is there a VIP client versus the regular old joe client???

 

[takethemoney]

I've been wondering the same, like is there a VIP client versus the regular old joe client???

There very well could be billets for classes of players. So, as a VIP, I wonder if the machines I won on were not seen by non VIP players?

We need someone who is not a VIP to go log into Cherry Red and tell us what the jackpot on Cleopatra's Gold is, as example, then a VIP to log in and tell us what the jackpot on same machine is. Are we getting any nearer to catching a witch?

 

[darkpixie]

Classes of players...

Only Rushmore Group can say for sure if this is the case. Hopefully Louise can pop back on here and let us know.

 

[all4greed]

There very well could be billets for classes of players. So, as a VIP, I wonder if the machines I won on were not seen by non VIP players?

We need someone who is not a VIP to go log into Cherry Red and tell us what the jackpot on Cleopatra's Gold is, as example, then a VIP to log in and tell us what the jackpot on same machine is. Are we getting any nearer to catching a witch?

I'm not a VIP or anything there and would happy to gather info.

 

[Nifty29]

I also have no personal vendetta against any Rushmore affiliate. Yourself and Nifty29 included.

The readership needs to keep in mind that the 2 main adversaries of this topic are affiliates for Rushmore group who continue to ask for proof why we think something is not right with the Rushmore Group RJ's, so we provide it, like my previous screen shot post, and 2 Rushmore affiliates jump on it and try to kill the thread.

I am not an affiliate for Rushmore and never have been.

Either provide evidence of such (good luck), or apologise for attempting to paint my opinions as biased.

 

[darkpixie]

Nifty29, as you well know I contacted you directly before you posted this because I received information from one source that you were an affiliate and then saw in another post that you were denying it. By contacting you directly I wished to give you the benefit of the doubt of clearing it up for me. Not to give you fuel to add to the fire and create more drama.

Thanks for giving me a reasonable amount of time after I read your response to come on here and correct the error.

For anyone that is doubtful of this please see our exchange below (Nifty's response to me was time stamped 03:49 AM , and he was on here posting 03:59 AM):

*snip*

 

[lots0]

Darkpixie ,

Your innuendo and insinuation that affiliates are crooked is a direct insult to me and every honest affiliate including the owner of this site. Your now trying to hurt my reputation. (btw - good luck with that )

Yes, I am sticking up for Rushmore, because your accusations and insinuations are FALSE. Not because I am an affiliate.

You have ignored all reasoned arguments by many different people that PROVE your insinuations are false, yet you ignore them and carry on with your bullshit attacks.

You seem to think that money is the most important thing here, it is not. Peoples honesty and integrity are being questioned and hurt by a couple of people that do not play at and have never even deposited a single dime in this casino and have absolutely no interest in this issue at all, other than stirring shit.

What do think this is just fun and games? Peoples lives and business are effected by things that are said and done here.

I never made any secret of being an affiliate of RUSHMORE. I like them and I trust them... I don't see how you can twist that into something dark and evil... but you sure are trying.

 

[darkpixie]

I must have missed something. This post doesn't even deserve a response.
You seem very angry for no good reason. I'll leave it at that.

 

[lots0]

No good reason.... OMG!!!

You insinuate I am dishonest... and thats not a good reason... your really something else lady.

 

[Nifty29]

@Darkpixie

Well Lots0 may not be angry, but I sure as hell am.

Where do you get off posting the contents of a PRIVATE MESSAGE CONVERSATION between you and I????

Quite frankly I am disgusted and its the first time anyone has done this to me in my 5 years at CM. IMO its about as low as you can go in a forum........and all in aid of making ME look like the unreasonable one after it was YOU that stated I was a Rushmore affiliate without confirming it with me FIRST!!

What a hide!!

It is obvious that when evidence and reason proves your accusations incorrect and unfounded (as it has in these threads), you resort to attacking peoples' character and suggesting that we have our own agendas and are therefore biased.

There are members who dont share my points of view at times, but those who know me will attest to my honesty and ability to be reasonable -- including admitting when Im wrong.

Don't think you can start doing to me what you are doing to Rushmore......in your words, "it aint gonna happen".

 

[darkpixie]

I did not intentionally lie about anything, and I originally had no intention of copying pasting what was in the message until I went to the thread to post my apology and I was met with more BS. It was literally seconds after I saw contradictory evidence that I contacted you. Not 10 minutes later you were on that thread dredging up a post from many moons ago. When did you give me a chance to apologize or even discuss posting an apology?

Report anything you like. The PM was posted because I was clearly trying to give you a fair shake and was not given the same respect in return, and that frankly disgusted me.

 

[takethemoney]

This thread has run it's course now, maybe?
Seems like it's all about drama between people now and nothing constructive is coming of it.

 

[maxd]

I did not intentionally lie about anything, and I originally had no intention of copying pasting what was in the message until .....

I suggest you have a boo at the Forum Rules:

1.13 - PMs are Private Messages - they are personal and are meant to be this way. They are not there to flaunt or to abuse one another. If you share these messages, please either request permission to do so or use discretion. Personal matters should be kept personal. Abuse this function and you will find it disabled.

And on that note I think we're done here. If anyone has serious objections, PM me.