RTG Slots Percentages

[babs7262]

I know a few ppl agree that spinning over 600 spins at achilles w/o one spin is the average % but that isnt an excuse either. THat is ridiculous. I mean really sit back and think about what your saying here....Especiallly on 20 or 40cent spins. I mean, come on, even if you just end up with $10 after the spin feature , thats better than nothing but not too get ANY after that many spins?

I am experiencing the same play with Inet. Im not aggreeing that its Rigged, dont put those words in my mouth. Im saying Inet because thats the only RTG ive been playing at since last Year . BTW....I havnt had ONE bank error since. If it wasnt for the low min dep option and me not having any bank errors, I wouldnt play there anymore either. Ill get a couple of $40 wins here and there but thats just not acceptable especially because as soon as you hit something you alll of a sudden go down hill and lose it all faster than lightning

Im not sure what it is . When a machine (IMHO) is hot and your doing well and then it goes down hill real fast, what else can it be? In real life when I play a hot machine it slowly goes cold but at inet you dont even get 4 cent wins when it goes cold. Its almost like they turned the machine off. I know they dont do that and Im not accusing rigged but why and how can that happen? How can you do so well one minute and get absolutely nothing the next? I dont see that at B&M's, they usually hit less and less and before you know it , your money is gone. THis is different, you get nothing for $50 straight

 

[LaHutti]

And now for a little informative spam: I put the closest approximations to variance for around 200 slots on Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) - use the dropdowns to find slots close to certain variance types. (Sorry if you use Firefox but I didn't have the time or inclination to deal with it's petty layout quibbles )

Hi Simmo....a bit OT, sorry about that.
Very nice with all the slots there...sofar just had a quick look at it, and saw Wall St. Fever (Playtech) has no freespins, (if I'm reading your charts correctly)...that's not correct.
Link Removed ( Old/Invalid) 3/4/5 gives you 5/15/50 freespins at 1X.

Edit: Also Cinerama (Playtech) wilds pay anywhere, and don't have to be on a payline, including jackpot.

 

[chuchu59]

I recommend depositing $10 and using the CM Tuesday slots bonus coupon. Try and see if you can even meet 50% of the WRs without busting out. The last few times I tried I busted out without reaching 50%-60% of the WRs. And they say that their slots are always set at 95%.

 

[Audioz]

I recommend depositing $10 and using the CM Tuesday slots bonus coupon. Try and see if you can even meet 50% of the WRs without busting out. The last few times I tried I busted out without reaching 50%-60% of the WRs.

I believe you this, because you must have a very big luck, to play with only $17,50 longer than some minutes, because even if you make a deposit with $50 on iNetBet you can loose it without any free spins/bonus rounds and this even in 30 minutes or so!

It's also very often in another RTG Casinos that you must at first loose about $30 before you get any free spins or bigger wins, so $17,50 is really to less and can go away within 10 minutes, except you'll hit directly free spins, or a big win, to have some play time!

 

[debbiek]

You should take a look at the post for Jackpot capital, another rigged RTG site. Their bonus rounds come up less than .2% (1 time out of 514 games). These RTG sites have been disgraceful for the last 4 months or so now, so I just don't even deposit. If you can find a good land based casino, that's much more enjoyable and you get paid right away.

I personally think the RTG casinos are definitely in trouble and just "stealing" because they know they can. Deposits have to be WAY DOWN. They probably have very little overhead, so whatever they can take, they do. As long as they have a reputation for paying, they'll probably get some business from diehard players.

 

[Audioz]

I personally think the RTG casinos are definitely in trouble and just "stealing" because they know they can. Deposits have to be WAY DOWN. They probably have very little overhead, so whatever they can take, they do.

I can't agree with this, because in the last week i've made deposits in Vip.com ($300 and could go up to about $700!) in Breakaway ($150 and paid out nearly $300) and on Bodog (only $60 for 20 cent low rolling, but it goes about $100 and i have a playtime about 12 hours!), so i think, that not all RTGs have unfair payouts

 

[aka23]

"RTG controls the % settings, not the casino as some widely assume, and a casino has to request a change, justify it to RTG, then wait for around 4-6 months for it to be applied - if it is considered justified (don't ask me how they decide!!)."

If this is true i am sure it is only if they want to raise the payout %, not lower it. Its laughable to think that Michael Staw would require justification to lower payout %'s with his past actions "running" RTG.

I believe RTG operators have a can configure their slots for one of 3 payouts -- 97.5%, 95%, or a 3rd lower one (92.5%?). Based, on iNetBet's payout reports, it seems that they have selected the default payout of 95%.

Most RTG games haves similar payout options. For example, operators can choose between 3 paytables for each VP game. Operators can select any number of decks between 1 and 255 for blackjack. I recall an operator posting that they are able to change the number of decks almost instantly. They certainly do not need to wait 4-6 months.

 

[footdr]

PAYOUT PERCENTAGES HAVE DECREASED DRAMATICALLY

My last 3 week experience playing Club World twice as much as InetBet(due to available deposit methods)....

less that 50% and Jackpot Pinata approx. 40% at both casinos. Worse payout I have ever experienced at clubworld and second worse at InetBet.

Bonus spins few and far between and payouts poor when bonus hit.

Maybe time to give up.

Might add Microgaming worse for me so I just can't win anywhere lately!!

 

[debbiek]

Aren't Breakaway and VIP.com both unavailable to U.S. players? It seems the U.S.RTG sites are really taking advantage of the lack of competition. I only know of a couple of sites that pay/legitimate and you need EXTREME luck to win at any of them.

 

[chuchu59]

I believe you this, because you must have a very big luck, to play with only $17,50 longer than some minutes, because even if you make a deposit with $50 on iNetBet you can loose it without any free spins/bonus rounds and this even in 30 minutes or so!

It's also very often in another RTG Casinos that you must at first loose about $30 before you get any free spins or bigger wins, so $17,50 is really to less and can go away within 10 minutes, except you'll hit directly free spins, or a big win, to have some play time


I only play 0.20 per spin and usually go bust at around the 800-1000 spin mark. $17.50 may be a paltry amount but we are talking about 1000 spins not actually anything of worth and that happens every time literally. Frankly, I wouldnt mind going bust if I had reached the wagering requirements as this does give me some playing time. However, the spins do not really delight you.

 

[Audioz]

I only play 0.20 per spin

I do also the same, but as i said, that's at most time to less for a long playtime, because i've yesterday also deposit $30 at Bodog and this money was also away in 30 minutes with only 1 bonus round!

 

[Audioz]

Aren't Breakaway and VIP.com both unavailable to U.S. players?

Breakaway yes, but Vip.com not, because they even offer more for your Comp Points for U.S. Players

"Non-North American accounts are not eligible for VIPrewards merchandise."

The only thing, which is a very mysterious rule, is this one:

"If after 60 days of wagering your withdrawals exceed your deposits you will be considered a lifetime winning account. A winning account will be considered a non-recreational gambler and your wagers will not count towards VIPrewards points."

 

[GrandMaster]

Translation: We don't like winners.

 

[peteyweestro]

Those are very stupid terms from vip, thanks for the info mike,i mean audio

 

[Audioz]

thanks for the info mike,i mean audio

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If you can read, my name is "Audioz"

 

[chuchu59]

Never seen this in 5 years of online gambling.

583 spins at 2$ a bet on Achilles slot without triggering a bonus feature.

I will stay away definitevely from this crap.

I don't give a shit losing a few bucks but I'd prefer giving my money to the homeless instead of wasting it in a rogue operator.

I am not trying to be sarcastic but you could consider yourself lucky not to have encountered this even once in 5 years. My slots playtime pales in comparison with my play at table games yet I have encountered more than a dozen times where there was no feature for 60o spins and they could happen at RTG, MG or Playtech. Conversely, I also had numerous occasions where the feature appeared within the first 5 spins.

RTG payouts are so mediocre that they bore you to death where you are fortunate to get your bet back for any individual spin.